I own a OnePlus 12 so obviously it's gonna be different, but I do see it a bit at 30 fps. It was way more subtle than what he showed tho, and when you use 60 fps it's basically completely gone. Nobody really moves the camera like that anyway. Obviously two different phones, but maybe that can clear things up (he did say it was an issue on the 12)
i think excusing every weakness as "most people won't care" "it's fine" isn't acceptable for a $1000 phone. Only budget and midrange phones should be allowed to use that trope.
One of those things were about the megapixels. 50 megapixels for a phone camera is WAAAAY more than you'll ever need. Bigger pixels is actually better, in theory, up to a limit. As for the framedrops, yeah, that's unforgivable. Even on a cheap phone, to be fair. If it lists 4K/60fps as a feature, it has to also work, otherwise it's false advertising, which is illegal mostly everywhere. Doesn't matter if the phone is $200 or $2000.
@@thany3 You say "its way more than youll ever need" but its also a $1000 phone. It should have way more you'll ever need for that pricetag. Especially when he mentions that the problem was present on previous phones too.
@@SnakeYikes What he is saying about the 50 MP is not just about this phone, you have full fledged camera bodies that are under 25MP that got out this year and their sensors are 24*36mm (also known as a full frame sensor), so much bigger than your phone's sensor and there is a good reason why it isn't more, it's about low light performance, and there are full frame cameras with 40Mp sensors or even more, but they are worse in low light and do better in other scenarios. So, for a phone, we really should stop the sprint to more MP and focus on stuff that matters like low light performance, and in such small sensors, we really would benefit more from a good under 10MP sensors rather than a bad 50MP sensor.
@@thany3 on smartphones, these 50 megapixels might not be enough. in fact, even Samsung's 200 megapixels might not be enough. this is because these ridiculously high megapixel numbers are achieved using non conventional bayer sensors, more specifically quad bayer (nonabayer for 108mp sensors and hexadecabayer for the 200mp ones). quad bayer provides a few upsides, such as higher yield when manufacturing, and support for exposure bracketing and binning to bayer resolution without taking multiple images at separate times. however, this all comes with many other downsides such as low detail at max resolution, much more noise at max resolution, and larger file sizes with very minimal benefits at max resolution. it would be much more beneficial to have a 20mp bayer resolution smartphone sensor, as that would actually be a "high resolution" sensor compared to almost all phones now having a sensor with 12mp of bayer resolution, and relying on quad bayer and hexadecabayer color filters to bump up that advertising number while not making any actual improvements
exactly!!! not sure how he's saying it's subtle & "use case scenario" it's a serious issue. who the hell wants random stutters in the videos like cmon now what kind of shilling is this 😭not to mention it's been a problem for a whole generation now
Yea, this has become an issue on my 9 Pro as well, started happening after their ColorOS/OxygenOS merges. Almost always at this point. And guaranteed if the phone gets hot, so no longer able to do videos :(
@@MaxScholzJaeger Sounds like I dodged a bullet when the merge happened and the phone started giving the new OS updates, I was like nope and decided to stick with the last true OxygenOS version 11.1.11.11 on my Nord. Sure it's not maybe the best option to not update the phone, but the build quality is terrible and it will shit the bed soon anyways. And I'd rather have a phone with functioning software than the clusterfuck the ColorOS merge was.
I also have OP12 and never saw anything like that. Maybe if you click 4k/8k recording it's meant for stable videos and not moving? There's alot of settings in their camera features so I'm sure you can fix that issue there
It's not the phone, sometimes the editing software used can cause it, I have the issue when editing in Adobe premiere, it plays much nicer since I switched to davinci resolve. The frame drops were never visible when I was watching in the phone
Really dislike how they test phone cameras by taking videos and photos of the studio environment. Can we get any more representative photos, the kind more people will actually use.
Same, always bothers me. The camera is always a pretty important part of a phone, so why not just go out and take a photo of a tree or something. Preferably something a bit more consistent than that for comparisons but still beter than this.
@@_Doskii They test the phones in different times of the day, in different seasons, so it's impossible to get consistent shots environment. I think the studio is as consistent as it can get.
@@chitudorin9014 Hence why I said "Preferably something a bit more consistent than that for comparisons". I'm sure they can figure something out, maybe some indoor scale models that mimic outdoor lightning enough to give a decent, fast and consistent benchmark. But ultimately anything is better than this hazy mess they keep making.
900$? "You were the chosen one! It was said that you would *destroy* the flagships, not join them! Bring balance to the wallet, not leave it in emptiness!" - cit. (almost)😂
The OnePlus 13R, which is out globally right now as well, is an amazing device at a $600 price tag for 12GB RAM and 256GB storage. That's an incredible deal, and you don't give up much. It's meant to be the classic OnePlus "everyman" phone. The 13 is an honest-to-goodness flagship with an stupidly powerful chipset, an absolutely incredible camera, insane battery life, and a gorgeous screen. It steps into the ring with the iPhones and Galaxys and knocks them out cold while costing $200 to $500(!) less. If you don't want to shell out $900 for a OnePlus, you don't have to. Get the 13R for $600 and still have an experience that will be absolutely perfect for 80% of users.
They always release a cheaper variant anyways which is the "flagship killer" From the commenter above, the OnePlus 13R exists. I once owned the OnePlus 8 Pro which was the sub-$1000 device, and the regular OnePlus 8 was the flagship killer. The most important thing is the chipset they use is the same.
hate to break it for you but the earth isnt flat, its actually round and rotating around its axis. this means different places have different times. i know its crazy.
@@Aygross I’m in gmt, it was 1630 my time, i translated to LA and Vancouver time because one presumes oneplus’ marketing audience is West coast US time zone and because LTT is in Vancouver.
@0:34 seconds in. The OP 11 felt like a gloss plastic but it was actually a frosted, textured glass. Ask me how I know. I've got super glue holding the shards together.
I saw a video where they said they have a new method of making it where it's in the shape of a bridge or something. I don't know I think it was Ben's gadget reviews.
They upload a couple thumbnails and stick with the one that generates the most views using a UA-cam tool and unfortunately I'm pretty sure soyjak just does better. Wish this wasn't the case.
Those camera stutters while recording are abysmal, I would never want to record like that, even more so for family memories. I continue to see no reason to upgrade from my oneplus 8, phones just have not done anything that I care enough about to upgrade. The only exception being under-screen selfie cameras so I don't have to deal with the hole-punch design, but I'm not paying that much for such a minor annoyance.
@@Qimchiy Yep, and the unfortunate thing is that it means the phone can't charge as fast with any other type of charger, and the charger can't be used as fast with any other device
This phone's biggest selling feature is its battery life, which you guys failed to test. If you're not able to properly test the phone in time, then delay the release of the video until that testing is properly done. Testing phones is much more important than testing PSUs.
Why do you care? It is going to be better than the 12 and the 12 is better than the Iphone, samsung, and google versions this year. Why do you care if it lasts 28 hours and 10 minutes or 29 hours and 3 minutes? The tests aren't even accurate unless you do them yourself anyways, because use case determines battery life more than most other things.
@@MegaLokopo "Why do you care" you ask someone who's watching phone reviews, are you for real? People care because they're considering purchasing the thing and they want to know if it's worth their hard-earned dough. Even if these kinds of battery tests aren't indicative of real-world usage, that's actually a good thing since that means they're standardized and show how big of a difference you can expect from these phones compared to others on the market, and that can matter big time. People hold on to their phones for much longer nowadays and a battery lasting two days versus one and a half is actually very meaningful to see how long into the future the battery will remain up to snuff before it starts degrading.
OnePlus 'promised' a similar set of updates for the 6T and just gave up supporting it (like all of their phones) after 2 years only. Buyer Beware: they won't actually fulfill their promised update schedule
It’s so annoying. Had to throw out the phone in two years since my google account for work needs a recently updated phone due to their policy. What a pile of junk it was. Bought an iPhone completely out of spite. 😂
That was 7 years ago. The Android landscape has changed so much. OnePlus has been supporting their devices for four OS updates and 5 years of security patches for years now. The OnePlus 9 is still being updated today. Again I'm not a big one plus fan, I usually use a pixel but there is really no reason to assume you're not going to get your 4 years of OS updates in 6 years of security patches.
Oneplus is still making flagship killers, the flagships they are killing are simply more expensive than before. Oneplus's top tier smartphone is still $400 cheaper than the current flagship for samsung, google, and apple. It was exactly the same thing 5 years ago.
64, 50 megapixels... it's all gimmick. None of these lenses on phone cameras probably can't resolve more than proper 2-4 Megapixels. 8:35 looks like very aggressive stabilisation that suddenly has to 'jump' to keep up with movement.
I wish reviewers would stop looking at megapixel count like it's all that important. The sensor size itself is way more important. Having a lot of pixels can be good or bad or indifferent. In the case of these phones and mostly the ladder But nonetheless channels like this and Mr who's the boss and even Mr Mobile occasionally refer to megapixel as if more is better. Which can be true but isn't universally true and is mostly irrelevant here
You can just get a list of the proper specs by looking at the comment section instead of the video. I haven't seen this amount of corrections in a while. I'll add one: the global version of this phone doesn't include a charger in the box
@@SAK_- Normally we get shafted just as well as other countries but I don't know about this one ;) Tech is not usually cheaper here I think. Is it €1200 for you as well?
@@GepstraIts actually 1150. But they have the deal to get 100 euros off now. And of course the 50 euro per order. And 10 percent off if you're a student. And the "free" gift
It literally has a flagship chip, class leading battery life, class leading charging speeds. What the f*** do you want it to do? Fine and okay art subjective judgments. There's not a single phone that this guy could judge where he wouldn't use those adjectives.
I've been running a OnePlus 9 since the 12 was their flagship. I'll be using it until the battery stops charging in part because it's still a great phone for my needs, but also because I slipped on a wet step and fell full force on the thing in my pocket, causing a visible bend in the phone's body and shattering the backplate but the screen and cameras still work 100%. Not a single crack. It's just a little bent.
I'm still rocking the OnePlus 6t and I have almost no reason to upgrade after 6 years. The battery is finally starting to get kinda low at the end of the day (20-30%) but still hasn't been an issue yet. I was thinking I'd get another OnePlus if I got a new phone, but if they are tending towards an iPhone style, and charging a grand for 512Gb, I don't know that I want OnePlus anymore. Honestly, I wouldn't mind a better camera but I don't really need it. I can still do 4k 60.
Still using my OnePlus 5t and it’s just about ready to be replaced like 6/7 years later. Had every OP up till the 5t but just can’t justify a new OP to replace it now that they are like £800+. RIP to the flagship killers of yesteryear that were like £400
im on a 6 and in the exact same situation. Even with a great big crack on my screen i cant justify the double or almost triple price tag on the new ones...
@thesherbet My 5t is still perfectly functional, in those years I've taken it apart once as my usb port was full of crud from years of use and I couldn't clean it well enough without removing it. The only issue is is the battery isn't that great but still lasts like 50-75% of the day and is still original which is mind blowing. She's still nice and fast with 8gb of ram, 128gb storage, screen is perfect etc it's truly the best phone I've ever owned. The Nord 4 is tempting, but I just can't get it on contract with my preferred carrier in the UK so likely going to go pixel 9 as there's some good deals on contracts and I don't really need more phone than that and it works out at about £400 ISH for the phone over the 2 year length. Just miss the old OP days as they really were insane value for spec/ quality. Also would love a Nothing phone but there still a bit expensive in my opinion for what you get. I really wish Carl Pei had made nothing into the OG OP 😂
@@carlbrenda6518 While I agree inflation is a thing, even an iPhone hasn't increased in price at the same rate as something like a OP phone. Also other manufacturers have proved you can still make well specced phones for the £400 region. There isn't justification for OnePlus devices to have increased at the rate they have, given they don't offer crazy specs to justify such an increase. Also I don't eat fast food as it's unhealthy so not sure how that's a relevant comparison?
I'm watching this on my OnePlus 9 Pro and my hardware is still chugging along just fine, but the security patches end in March so I'm trying to plan my upgrade. Really eyeing the 13.
I'm also on a 9 Pro, glad I waited for the 13 most specifically for the 8 Elite chip and bigger battery. Figured if I'm gonna upgrade now I may as well take advantage of everything I can so I did the early deposit. Should be getting the phone in about 2 weeks.
Here's me still rocking the OPO 8 pro quite happily running everything no drama. Even in Aus where the model was supposed to be banned on the 3g shutdown.
Regarding the charging brick... i mean they practically have to include it right cause the protocol is proprietary. It wouldn't charge at 100w using regular PD, so
Love my OnePlus 12. Two days worth of battery life with moderate use and then charges in about 20 minutes. The price compared with my wife's Pixel 8 Pro and especially compared with my daughters iphone 15 pro was a bargain. Shame it looks like the price is creeping up with the 13 especially since it doesn't look like too much of a difference.
Okay. So apparently IP69 means that you can use a pressure washer to clean your phone, but unlike IP68 it does *not* make any claims about the phone surviving being dunked in water for a longer time. So I guess advertising both isn't completely pointless.
I just got a Realme GT7 Pro, same specs basically, little worse for user friendlyness os wise but it's like $500 range. It's honestly surprised me how good it is.
Hey, I'm probably late to this... but the cube lights in the set background, are they supposed to be the arranged as the channel logo? One of the cubes needs to be rotated.
It's surprising that in the North America, OnePlus still includes a charging brick in the box. I suspect the removal of charging bricks in some countries outside of North America is due to the lack of sales of previous smartphone devices. 😅
Except for a broken phone that can not be fixed I try to keep my phones for at least 4 years before switching them out these days...last one almost made it to 3 until it died and was unable to even have the data recovered.
I was gonna wait for the 13 but settled for the 12 instead. OnePlus became what it aimed to destroy, but it's fine unless you don't wanna pay flagship prices. Felt it was a better deal than the latest Pixel phones.
I don't get why people keep saying that, all phones have gotten more expensive, the samsung galaxy sxx ultra was less than a thousand dollars 5 years ago, but it isn't today. All phones are more expensive, but oneplus still gives you an amazing phone for several hundred dollars less. And if you don't care about getting last years chip, get the 12r or 13r and wireless charging not being available is the only thing you'll miss.
Not really. I bought the 13 advanced and they gave everyone who ordered the advance model the base model's price. With the preorder savings and $100 free recycling reward, I got the phone and watch both for $740. They came in the mail today.
This is the opposite of LG. They were doing new things, and different things than most, which didn't turn into sales. Oneplus is very much doing what most are doing, but better than many.
@samulai What I'm referring to is that LG was providing a better value than their competitors, then gradually stopped doing that, and lost the customers they had.
@@orijimi Maybe you should look at their other models. The OnePlus Nord 4 has almost same performance as 8gen2 and only cost 300 bucks. 350 for the 512/16 version. Also has 5500mah battery and 6 years of updates. You literally cannot find a better value phone right now. Just sucks it isn't available for US people
would be nice to say if the standard of the usb- a to c cable as in if it's usb 3.1 gen 1 or 2, also when it comes to battery, reviewers forget about it but most ppl buy flagships to last them years so the new technology of silicon carbon in batteries enables high capacity but at what cost, will the lifespan of the battery last those few years will they expand in size like old lithium batteries, we gotta know
I don't think it is available in the US. I don't know why. I actually have a OnePlus 12 r that I won on someone's UA-cam channel last year with 16 gigs of RAM and 256. And it's odd because you actually can't buy that SKU in the US either. You can buy eight and 256 or 16 and 512 but I have 16 and 256. But as best as I can tell 512 is the most you can get on the US website You could probably import the Indian version but that's probably not worth doing in this You're really really need a lot of RAM and storage and are willing to live with no proper warranty support and the like
I have an s24 Ultra and after seeing what the s25 ultra is offering and what not from the rumors, I am ready to try a different vendor. OnePlus 13 pre-ordered look forward to getting it.
I am still using the OnePlus 7t Pro as my only phone. Had it from new since launch. Sure i had to change the battery a couple of time but it still meeting my requirements. Also, in EU the 12GB is 1049 euro and the 16GB is 1099 euro.
Elija looks like a Brazilian football coach called Fernando Diniz. Famous for winning copa libertadores in 2023 for Fluminense also were the head coach for Brazil nacional team for while 😂
The cameras aren't quite comparable to other "flagship level" phones (based on my experience with the OP 12, which has mostly the same set of sensors as the 13). Compared to Xiaomi, Vivo and its corporate sibling Oppo - all of which have 1" sensor main cameras - its 1/1.4inch sensor main camera isn't exactly industry leading. Its good enough compared to Samsung and Google, as they are still using current gen stacked Sony sensors unlike the "mainstream" flagships which are using shittier sensors with better computational processing - but not really comparable to the phones carrying proper photography hardware. For me at least, that was fine for the 12 because a) this was reflected in the price compared to Xiaomi 14 Ultra, Oppo Find X8 pro etc. and b) I am very into my photography so I always have a APSC compact camera on me anyway so I don't care as much about smartphone photography. But with the 13, it seems like OnePlus has kept the sub-flagship camera setup whilst hiking the prices to flagship level. If you are after a flagship android phone this year - IMHO skip OnePlus and pick-up a Xiaomi or a Vivo once they have their Snapdragon Elite phone out.
I'd rather know whether OnePlus has fixed the horrible QA issues with their screens on the 11 and 12 models. That seems to have been a massive issue and I'm dreading the day my 11 gets 'the vertical line of death'
I'm definitely considering switching from Samsung. Mostly for the dual SIM dual Active TBH. I'm waiting to see if the 25 Ultra will support DSDA or not. I've been using dual SIM dual standby on my 24 Ultra and it's not a great experience. It's even more frustrating knowing that the hardware is capable, it's just disabled, on a factory unlocked device. I left Verizon a while ago and switched to annual plans on Mint and Visible, which is way cheaper and I ALWAYS have signal on at least one of them. But, I really want them to both be active connections.
The issue is... If I'm at work talking on the phone with my wife and I enter a poor reception area, I'll have her call me on the other SIM... But, then I can't receive calls on my work line, so I miss calls and don't even get notified of them. So, the second I'm out of the poor reception area, I have to tell her to call my work line again. It's annoying. I really hope the 25 Ultra will have DSDA, but I'll likely switch to OnePlus if they don't.
I rarely complain on LMG content but this short circuit is botched. Most of the time it feels like the brightness of the screen is way down, it does not show the true look. The sensor downgrade is weirdly justified, the goal of the gen after is to be at least as good as the one before. And above all : that stuttering is NOT subtle at all, it's a huge issue!
I just checked and the sensor is bigger this year. You might be talking about megapixel count which is not really important? But it has a larger sensor in the OnePlus 13 and the OnePlus 12.
Why dont people make phones work properly for everything that they have in them... Like... Cameras that drop frames, Cameras that are worse than previous gen, speakers that are mediocre... Then they charge $1000 for them..... This is why i buy Mid/Low Range phones cuz it just works as a phone and has cameras for its spec and speakers that do fine... and it didnt cost me 1k for a dissapointment..... (still has a 120hz OLED Display)
They removed the headphone jack and the massive increase in price makes OnePlus a no from me now. So much is just ok compred to similarly priced phones
I've had the Oneplus 5T, Oneplus 7T & Oneplus 11 and I always feel like they're software updates continue to make the product worse, not better. I'm constantly losing minor functionality and struggling to learn workarounds for crap they've changed.
still running a Oneplus Nord 5G. my experience after 5 years: not a bad phone, but I won't buying Oneplus again. security patch version is December 2023! there's virtually no effort in applying these. also: non standard fast charging. I'm not buying a second wall wart from Oneplus for the office and I don't need the China bloat, that comes pre-loaded(and only can be removed for te most part). also going for top tier instead of midrange on my next phone! there are more Details, why I won't be going for Oneplus, but this comment is already long enough
With Mid-rangers having IP67 already, hardware Optical Image Stabilization, plus 120FPS\ with decent cameras (like last year's Samsung A55) it's getting harder to justify expensive phones.
the thermal throttling was 100% broken on the op12, so id be curious if the same issue exists on the 13. i bet if he kept playing cod for 10 more mins, the fps would have dropped to 50fps
it would be nice to see some actually demanding games in these. like wuthering waves. this would be lucky to get a smooth 60fps at maxed settings. also oneplus should have an internal game fps overlay which also shows the cpu and gpu utilization, unless they have removed it. but this is just my small nitpick, great review regardless. im kinda tempted, but my oneplus 7 pro is still going strong so not sure i can justify it.
Those frame drops were definitely not subtle…
Got some clover field vibes. That camera lag looks horrible
the sponsorship was subtle 😏
@@nassim99345 i mean when i get 3+ videos about same product drop in my feed b2b seems about right 😂
what he was seeing was subtle, its a problem with the videos when you import them in editing programs
I own a OnePlus 12 so obviously it's gonna be different, but I do see it a bit at 30 fps. It was way more subtle than what he showed tho, and when you use 60 fps it's basically completely gone. Nobody really moves the camera like that anyway. Obviously two different phones, but maybe that can clear things up (he did say it was an issue on the 12)
i think excusing every weakness as "most people won't care" "it's fine" isn't acceptable for a $1000 phone. Only budget and midrange phones should be allowed to use that trope.
One of those things were about the megapixels. 50 megapixels for a phone camera is WAAAAY more than you'll ever need. Bigger pixels is actually better, in theory, up to a limit.
As for the framedrops, yeah, that's unforgivable. Even on a cheap phone, to be fair. If it lists 4K/60fps as a feature, it has to also work, otherwise it's false advertising, which is illegal mostly everywhere. Doesn't matter if the phone is $200 or $2000.
@@thany3 You say "its way more than youll ever need" but its also a $1000 phone. It should have way more you'll ever need for that pricetag. Especially when he mentions that the problem was present on previous phones too.
@@SnakeYikes What he is saying about the 50 MP is not just about this phone, you have full fledged camera bodies that are under 25MP that got out this year and their sensors are 24*36mm (also known as a full frame sensor), so much bigger than your phone's sensor and there is a good reason why it isn't more, it's about low light performance, and there are full frame cameras with 40Mp sensors or even more, but they are worse in low light and do better in other scenarios.
So, for a phone, we really should stop the sprint to more MP and focus on stuff that matters like low light performance, and in such small sensors, we really would benefit more from a good under 10MP sensors rather than a bad 50MP sensor.
@@thany3 on smartphones, these 50 megapixels might not be enough. in fact, even Samsung's 200 megapixels might not be enough. this is because these ridiculously high megapixel numbers are achieved using non conventional bayer sensors, more specifically quad bayer (nonabayer for 108mp sensors and hexadecabayer for the 200mp ones). quad bayer provides a few upsides, such as higher yield when manufacturing, and support for exposure bracketing and binning to bayer resolution without taking multiple images at separate times. however, this all comes with many other downsides such as low detail at max resolution, much more noise at max resolution, and larger file sizes with very minimal benefits at max resolution. it would be much more beneficial to have a 20mp bayer resolution smartphone sensor, as that would actually be a "high resolution" sensor compared to almost all phones now having a sensor with 12mp of bayer resolution, and relying on quad bayer and hexadecabayer color filters to bump up that advertising number while not making any actual improvements
@@thany3 50mp on a quad bayer sensor is 12mp of bayer resolution, so its just barely 4:3 4k resolution
8:35 that's actually just terrible
yeah that's not subtle at all, that sucks so bad
exactly!!! not sure how he's saying it's subtle & "use case scenario" it's a serious issue. who the hell wants random stutters in the videos like cmon now what kind of shilling is this 😭not to mention it's been a problem for a whole generation now
Yea, this has become an issue on my 9 Pro as well, started happening after their ColorOS/OxygenOS merges. Almost always at this point. And guaranteed if the phone gets hot, so no longer able to do videos :(
i bought oneplus 13 with coloros (chinese version) and it works great,i guess they f't up and didnt fix it on global before launch lol
@@MaxScholzJaeger Sounds like I dodged a bullet when the merge happened and the phone started giving the new OS updates, I was like nope and decided to stick with the last true OxygenOS version 11.1.11.11 on my Nord. Sure it's not maybe the best option to not update the phone, but the build quality is terrible and it will shit the bed soon anyways. And I'd rather have a phone with functioning software than the clusterfuck the ColorOS merge was.
Omg the video frame drops were absolutely abhorrent. How is that OK?? 9:30 even for casual videos!
What?
I'm sure it'll be fixed with a patch. My OP12 doesn't have that issue
I also have OP12 and never saw anything like that. Maybe if you click 4k/8k recording it's meant for stable videos and not moving? There's alot of settings in their camera features so I'm sure you can fix that issue there
@@Aaronduhmoron same my op12 doesnt have it. just tested again.
It's not the phone, sometimes the editing software used can cause it, I have the issue when editing in Adobe premiere, it plays much nicer since I switched to davinci resolve. The frame drops were never visible when I was watching in the phone
According the OnePlus forums. They aware of the framedrop thing and its one of the major bug they are trying to fix. I hope patch will be out soon
Bug? The only way to fix it is to let it heat more and pump power on it
Really dislike how they test phone cameras by taking videos and photos of the studio environment. Can we get any more representative photos, the kind more people will actually use.
Same, always bothers me. The camera is always a pretty important part of a phone, so why not just go out and take a photo of a tree or something. Preferably something a bit more consistent than that for comparisons but still beter than this.
@@_Doskii They test the phones in different times of the day, in different seasons, so it's impossible to get consistent shots environment. I think the studio is as consistent as it can get.
@@chitudorin9014 Hence why I said "Preferably something a bit more consistent than that for comparisons". I'm sure they can figure something out, maybe some indoor scale models that mimic outdoor lightning enough to give a decent, fast and consistent benchmark. But ultimately anything is better than this hazy mess they keep making.
If it performs well in a studio, it's a good camera.
@@smmmokin studios are built so cameras can work their best. a better camera can keep that performance consistent
900$?
"You were the chosen one! It was said that you would *destroy* the flagships, not join them! Bring balance to the wallet, not leave it in emptiness!" - cit. (almost)😂
oneplus phones have been $1000 for like 5 years lol
@@CateChapelle exactly: it's disgusting
The OnePlus 13R, which is out globally right now as well, is an amazing device at a $600 price tag for 12GB RAM and 256GB storage. That's an incredible deal, and you don't give up much. It's meant to be the classic OnePlus "everyman" phone. The 13 is an honest-to-goodness flagship with an stupidly powerful chipset, an absolutely incredible camera, insane battery life, and a gorgeous screen. It steps into the ring with the iPhones and Galaxys and knocks them out cold while costing $200 to $500(!) less.
If you don't want to shell out $900 for a OnePlus, you don't have to. Get the 13R for $600 and still have an experience that will be absolutely perfect for 80% of users.
They always release a cheaper variant anyways which is the "flagship killer"
From the commenter above, the OnePlus 13R exists. I once owned the OnePlus 8 Pro which was the sub-$1000 device, and the regular OnePlus 8 was the flagship killer.
The most important thing is the chipset they use is the same.
They were just scooping up market share
Guess the release for these videos was set at 0830 huh
Yup everyone is In your timezone
The rest of the world:
Yep that's why I have five videos in a row talking about this phone😂😅
hate to break it for you but the earth isnt flat, its actually round and rotating around its axis. this means different places have different times. i know its crazy.
@@Aygross I’m in gmt, it was 1630 my time, i translated to LA and Vancouver time because one presumes oneplus’ marketing audience is West coast US time zone and because LTT is in Vancouver.
@0:34 seconds in.
The OP 11 felt like a gloss plastic but it was actually a frosted, textured glass. Ask me how I know.
I've got super glue holding the shards together.
6:36 There must be a mistake : the rear telephoto focal length can't be 14mm
73mm focal length as to OnePlus page
Perceived FOV varies based on sensor size too. Smaller the sensor, smaller the mm of a lens need to be a telephoto.
I saw a video where they said they have a new method of making it where it's in the shape of a bridge or something. I don't know I think it was Ben's gadget reviews.
Keep this kind of simple thumbnail please, it's much more better than the the usual soyjak pose
Yeah, they look too goofy
They upload a couple thumbnails and stick with the one that generates the most views using a UA-cam tool and unfortunately I'm pretty sure soyjak just does better. Wish this wasn't the case.
I hate that pose, like why is SHOCKED FACE - PRODUCT a thing
*Isildur face*
No.
tbh looking at the thumbnail, i thought it was a samtime video, but i agree with this thumbnail style
Those camera stutters while recording are abysmal, I would never want to record like that, even more so for family memories. I continue to see no reason to upgrade from my oneplus 8, phones just have not done anything that I care enough about to upgrade. The only exception being under-screen selfie cameras so I don't have to deal with the hole-punch design, but I'm not paying that much for such a minor annoyance.
It's obviously a bug and will be fixed asap ... The phone was just released and you have no right to talk using an old ahss OnePlus 8
Watching this on my OnePlus 7 Pro feeling like I'm still not missing anything other than 5G in 2025
Amd security updates. I dropped my OP7 6 months after it stopped getting updated, although it's actually still going strong.
8t gang
8t here. Not really missing anything
OP 6, replaced battery/screen/back, still good. Use it for almost everything, but I do my gaming on other devices.
Still using the OnePlus 7t Pro as my only phone. Had to change the battery a couple of times.
Surprised they included a USB A to C cable instead of C to C
Yeah that cord is immediately going to the car and staying there. Who has USB A ports anymore?
@@BStrach Motherboard IO, unfortunately.
It's for their proprietary SuperVOOC charging which does 12A through the cable. The same with Xiaomi on their 6A cable.
@@BStrach i mean the oneplus fast charger has a usb-a port so i think its quite obvious why they ship it
@@Qimchiy Yep, and the unfortunate thing is that it means the phone can't charge as fast with any other type of charger, and the charger can't be used as fast with any other device
This phone's biggest selling feature is its battery life, which you guys failed to test. If you're not able to properly test the phone in time, then delay the release of the video until that testing is properly done. Testing phones is much more important than testing PSUs.
Why do you care? It is going to be better than the 12 and the 12 is better than the Iphone, samsung, and google versions this year. Why do you care if it lasts 28 hours and 10 minutes or 29 hours and 3 minutes? The tests aren't even accurate unless you do them yourself anyways, because use case determines battery life more than most other things.
@@MegaLokopo "Why do you care" you ask someone who's watching phone reviews, are you for real? People care because they're considering purchasing the thing and they want to know if it's worth their hard-earned dough. Even if these kinds of battery tests aren't indicative of real-world usage, that's actually a good thing since that means they're standardized and show how big of a difference you can expect from these phones compared to others on the market, and that can matter big time. People hold on to their phones for much longer nowadays and a battery lasting two days versus one and a half is actually very meaningful to see how long into the future the battery will remain up to snuff before it starts degrading.
This is a showcase of the phone, it's not a review. For that you need to look elsewhere.
@@gleaminggeorge4983 You're right, I used the wrong terminology when referring to the video.
What a bot comment 😂😂😂
I upgraded from the 7T Pro to the 11, I miss my pop-up camera everyday
I'm on my trusty 7t pro right now, but ordered the 13 today!
I'm sure I'll miss the pop-up camera too though 😮💨
I wish I could keep it for years to come but battery is not lasting half a day anymore
2:58 Source? I haven't been able to see this feature mentioned anywhere, not even in the video you referred to?
Google it " smart notification hiding" OnePlus has it and realme has it
The non-centre-non-corner aligned camera module is still hideous.
5:50 CORRECTION: you can get the 24gb/1tb version here in India for ₹90000 or 1058 USD
6:40 - that looks wrong. A 14 mm "telephoto" and a 15 mm "ultra-wide"? I guess that 14 should read as something else?
8:07 its 0.6x from the main lens not 0.6mm
Yeah, that was weird
OnePlus 'promised' a similar set of updates for the 6T and just gave up supporting it (like all of their phones) after 2 years only. Buyer Beware: they won't actually fulfill their promised update schedule
It’s so annoying. Had to throw out the phone in two years since my google account for work needs a recently updated phone due to their policy. What a pile of junk it was. Bought an iPhone completely out of spite. 😂
@@tevinabeysekera9881 You have an android, just put lineage OS on it or something, I still have my onePlus 6
That was 7 years ago. The Android landscape has changed so much. OnePlus has been supporting their devices for four OS updates and 5 years of security patches for years now. The OnePlus 9 is still being updated today.
Again I'm not a big one plus fan, I usually use a pixel but there is really no reason to assume you're not going to get your 4 years of OS updates in 6 years of security patches.
Had this on my oneplus 7 pro, now I use iPhone 12 Pro since over 2 years in combination with OnePlus 7 Pro with lineageos
A bit annoyed they didn't wait for Labs on this one. Oh well.
The OnePlus 13 became the very thing it swore to destroy
Oneplus is still making flagship killers, the flagships they are killing are simply more expensive than before. Oneplus's top tier smartphone is still $400 cheaper than the current flagship for samsung, google, and apple. It was exactly the same thing 5 years ago.
Huh? It undercuts the pixel and the Samsung by 20 30% and it has a charger in the box with a value of 75 bucks.
Elijah already gave up on his waifu?
Well he's not dailying the waifu phone, for what it's worth
64, 50 megapixels... it's all gimmick. None of these lenses on phone cameras probably can't resolve more than proper 2-4 Megapixels.
8:35 looks like very aggressive stabilisation that suddenly has to 'jump' to keep up with movement.
I wish reviewers would stop looking at megapixel count like it's all that important. The sensor size itself is way more important. Having a lot of pixels can be good or bad or indifferent. In the case of these phones and mostly the ladder
But nonetheless channels like this and Mr who's the boss and even Mr Mobile occasionally refer to megapixel as if more is better. Which can be true but isn't universally true and is mostly irrelevant here
You can just get a list of the proper specs by looking at the comment section instead of the video. I haven't seen this amount of corrections in a while.
I'll add one: the global version of this phone doesn't include a charger in the box
This camera bump is so incredibly ugly, oneplus flagships really need a complete redesign
Agreed lol. And I've had 2 OnePlus phones, camera design needs some reworking. But decent camera quality depending.
It's more popular in China. I do get a lot of positive comments here in the USA though. It's different.
Preference bud
As always North America getting the best pricing. In Europe it's €1150 for 12+256GB and €1200 for 16+512GB.
Depends on which country then I guess? Netherlands it's €1049 for the 512GB one.
@@Gepstra Is tech cheaper in the Netherlands? Brother, I guess I drive over to you fellas and pay you guys a visit ( Im living 30km of the boarder )
@@SAK_- Normally we get shafted just as well as other countries but I don't know about this one ;) Tech is not usually cheaper here I think. Is it €1200 for you as well?
@@GepstraIts actually 1150. But they have the deal to get 100 euros off now. And of course the 50 euro per order. And 10 percent off if you're a student. And the "free" gift
@@Meurer_T Ah I see.
So it's 'fine' and 'okay' but priced as a flagship?
Samsung, google and apple have not released a sub $1000 flagship in several years.
It literally has a flagship chip, class leading battery life, class leading charging speeds. What the f*** do you want it to do? Fine and okay art subjective judgments. There's not a single phone that this guy could judge where he wouldn't use those adjectives.
Has most flagship features and is priced 300 dollars less
I've been running a OnePlus 9 since the 12 was their flagship. I'll be using it until the battery stops charging in part because it's still a great phone for my needs, but also because I slipped on a wet step and fell full force on the thing in my pocket, causing a visible bend in the phone's body and shattering the backplate but the screen and cameras still work 100%. Not a single crack. It's just a little bent.
I'm still rocking the OnePlus 6t and I have almost no reason to upgrade after 6 years. The battery is finally starting to get kinda low at the end of the day (20-30%) but still hasn't been an issue yet. I was thinking I'd get another OnePlus if I got a new phone, but if they are tending towards an iPhone style, and charging a grand for 512Gb, I don't know that I want OnePlus anymore. Honestly, I wouldn't mind a better camera but I don't really need it. I can still do 4k 60.
8:30 if I saw those frame drops on a 200$ phone I would be surprised and disappointed. This phone costs 4.5x more!
Watching on my almost 5 year old OnePlus 8. Think i will hold on to it for 1 more year
My OP6 IS 6.5 yrs old now and I'm not even sure I'll buy a new one this year. Did replace battery though.
I miss my OP 8 Pro but I love my pixel
I'm still loving my 6+ year old 6T. I don't plan to upgrade unless it craps out or something
I can't understand your type 🤦♂️
Still using the 6T and this is the first time I'm actually interested in buying a new phone.
I actually bought it - because my 6T's battery shows its age now. Let's see how it goes :)
buy a new battery @@TheOpenfield
If you don't mind, could you come back once you used it for a short while and give your honest opinion on it? :-)
@@sebastian.panzar Sure thing, I will let you know ;)
Running a regular 6 here, if it werent for the crack in my screen i would still keep it going. But interested to see how people get on with this
I still miss the old oxygen OS
Still using my OnePlus 5t and it’s just about ready to be replaced like 6/7 years later. Had every OP up till the 5t but just can’t justify a new OP to replace it now that they are like £800+. RIP to the flagship killers of yesteryear that were like £400
im on a 6 and in the exact same situation. Even with a great big crack on my screen i cant justify the double or almost triple price tag on the new ones...
@thesherbet My 5t is still perfectly functional, in those years I've taken it apart once as my usb port was full of crud from years of use and I couldn't clean it well enough without removing it.
The only issue is is the battery isn't that great but still lasts like 50-75% of the day and is still original which is mind blowing.
She's still nice and fast with 8gb of ram, 128gb storage, screen is perfect etc it's truly the best phone I've ever owned.
The Nord 4 is tempting, but I just can't get it on contract with my preferred carrier in the UK so likely going to go pixel 9 as there's some good deals on contracts and I don't really need more phone than that and it works out at about £400 ISH for the phone over the 2 year length.
Just miss the old OP days as they really were insane value for spec/ quality. Also would love a Nothing phone but there still a bit expensive in my opinion for what you get. I really wish Carl Pei had made nothing into the OG OP 😂
Do you have the same problem when getting that fast food? Because believe you me, those prices have doubled and tripled as well......
@@carlbrenda6518 While I agree inflation is a thing, even an iPhone hasn't increased in price at the same rate as something like a OP phone. Also other manufacturers have proved you can still make well specced phones for the £400 region. There isn't justification for OnePlus devices to have increased at the rate they have, given they don't offer crazy specs to justify such an increase. Also I don't eat fast food as it's unhealthy so not sure how that's a relevant comparison?
I'm watching this on my OnePlus 9 Pro and my hardware is still chugging along just fine, but the security patches end in March so I'm trying to plan my upgrade. Really eyeing the 13.
I'm also on a 9 Pro, glad I waited for the 13 most specifically for the 8 Elite chip and bigger battery. Figured if I'm gonna upgrade now I may as well take advantage of everything I can so I did the early deposit. Should be getting the phone in about 2 weeks.
Here's me still rocking the OPO 8 pro quite happily running everything no drama. Even in Aus where the model was supposed to be banned on the 3g shutdown.
Regarding the charging brick... i mean they practically have to include it right cause the protocol is proprietary. It wouldn't charge at 100w using regular PD, so
Love my OnePlus 12. Two days worth of battery life with moderate use and then charges in about 20 minutes. The price compared with my wife's Pixel 8 Pro and especially compared with my daughters iphone 15 pro was a bargain. Shame it looks like the price is creeping up with the 13 especially since it doesn't look like too much of a difference.
9:27 how is it IP68 and IP69 simultaneously? I am confused.
I mean obviously if it's IP69 it's also IP68, but yeah, I was wondering why they wouldn't just advertise IP69 only
@@alkoyyyip69 and 68 are different, ip69 doesn't mean it's submergable, just resistant to high temp water jets.
Okay. So apparently IP69 means that you can use a pressure washer to clean your phone, but unlike IP68 it does *not* make any claims about the phone surviving being dunked in water for a longer time.
So I guess advertising both isn't completely pointless.
@@alkoyyy yea two different ratings
Thank you guys for clearing my confusion. Appreciate it.
In my location OP 13 and Oppo Find X8 pro have the same price tag. Which one should I go for?
I just got a Realme GT7 Pro, same specs basically, little worse for user friendlyness os wise but it's like $500 range. It's honestly surprised me how good it is.
Hey, I'm probably late to this... but the cube lights in the set background, are they supposed to be the arranged as the channel logo? One of the cubes needs to be rotated.
05:55 thats weird
In india they also have a 24 gb ram and 1 tb storage version as well.
Its also mentioned in official one plus website
Where's the Oneplus 13R video at? Nobody's making a videon the real budget KING!
It's surprising that in the North America, OnePlus still includes a charging brick in the box. I suspect the removal of charging bricks in some countries outside of North America is due to the lack of sales of previous smartphone devices. 😅
Except for a broken phone that can not be fixed I try to keep my phones for at least 4 years before switching them out these days...last one almost made it to 3 until it died and was unable to even have the data recovered.
That's just sad
I was gonna wait for the 13 but settled for the 12 instead. OnePlus became what it aimed to destroy, but it's fine unless you don't wanna pay flagship prices. Felt it was a better deal than the latest Pixel phones.
I don't get why people keep saying that, all phones have gotten more expensive, the samsung galaxy sxx ultra was less than a thousand dollars 5 years ago, but it isn't today. All phones are more expensive, but oneplus still gives you an amazing phone for several hundred dollars less. And if you don't care about getting last years chip, get the 12r or 13r and wireless charging not being available is the only thing you'll miss.
Not really. I bought the 13 advanced and they gave everyone who ordered the advance model the base model's price. With the preorder savings and $100 free recycling reward, I got the phone and watch both for $740. They came in the mail today.
I feel like I'm watching LG's cell phone division dying for a second time.
This is the opposite of LG. They were doing new things, and different things than most, which didn't turn into sales. Oneplus is very much doing what most are doing, but better than many.
@samulai What I'm referring to is that LG was providing a better value than their competitors, then gradually stopped doing that, and lost the customers they had.
The v30 is still the best phone I've ever had
Isn't that what one plus is doing lol @@orijimi
@@orijimi Maybe you should look at their other models. The OnePlus Nord 4 has almost same performance as 8gen2 and only cost 300 bucks. 350 for the 512/16 version. Also has 5500mah battery and 6 years of updates. You literally cannot find a better value phone right now. Just sucks it isn't available for US people
Still rocking my OP12 16/512 from 11/11 sale and I don't see a reason to switch. Still a very solid phone for me.
would be nice to say if the standard of the usb- a to c cable as in if it's usb 3.1 gen 1 or 2, also when it comes to battery, reviewers forget about it but most ppl buy flagships to last them years so the new technology of silicon carbon in batteries enables high capacity but at what cost, will the lifespan of the battery last those few years will they expand in size like old lithium batteries, we gotta know
80W for 110V region, 100W for 220V region from what I can see on the description of wall wart... Next time can consider put a side note on it
3:39 Then don't release the video or at least done make ANY claims about battery life
God the fragility is embarrassing, he didn't even make any claims, just speculated
Last time they where a flagship killer was oneplus 6t arguably
bro, there is 24 gb ram & 1tb variant for op 13 in india.
is not available in canada or usa??
I don't think it is available in the US. I don't know why. I actually have a OnePlus 12 r that I won on someone's UA-cam channel last year with 16 gigs of RAM and 256. And it's odd because you actually can't buy that SKU in the US either. You can buy eight and 256 or 16 and 512 but I have 16 and 256.
But as best as I can tell 512 is the most you can get on the US website
You could probably import the Indian version but that's probably not worth doing in this You're really really need a lot of RAM and storage and are willing to live with no proper warranty support and the like
cod mobile supports 120fps on br mode like other devices with sd8 elite??
It always bugged me that elijah didnt go to the OP12 and instead went a gen older to the 11
I have an s24 Ultra and after seeing what the s25 ultra is offering and what not from the rumors, I am ready to try a different vendor. OnePlus 13 pre-ordered look forward to getting it.
Oneplus 12 and 13 can do 100w charging with the right brick, even in the us.
Holy shit those frame drops at 8:35 are awful.
Op 13 or s25u? I ended up deciding to get op13, better battery and recharging speed.
@ShortCircuit can you confirm if the framedrops appear only on 8k camera mode or also 4k 60 fps?
Thank you!
Always love to see Elijah.
how is a usb-A cable doing 80w? i thought the whole point of moving to usb-c was because usb-a maxxes out at 15-20w or something
How does the OnePlus 13 compare to the Redmagic 10 Pro?
I am still using the OnePlus 7t Pro as my only phone. Had it from new since launch. Sure i had to change the battery a couple of time but it still meeting my requirements.
Also, in EU the 12GB is 1049 euro and the 16GB is 1099 euro.
I'm still happy with my OnePlus 8 Pro. Still annoyed they disabled the IR filter camera though.
Elija looks like a Brazilian football coach called Fernando Diniz. Famous for winning copa libertadores in 2023 for Fluminense also were the head coach for Brazil nacional team for while 😂
Why does the title say he was tempted but he says "it's not worth the upgrade"?
This happens a bit I notice. The thumbnails are changed sometimes or have little to nothing to do with the content or contradict
This seems a lot like a sponsored video, but there isn;t a notification about it being sponsored
Then its not sponsored.
Wait, is that a pre applied screen protector?
For the price the competition is now between Oneplus, Samsung, and Redmagic
The cameras aren't quite comparable to other "flagship level" phones (based on my experience with the OP 12, which has mostly the same set of sensors as the 13). Compared to Xiaomi, Vivo and its corporate sibling Oppo - all of which have 1" sensor main cameras - its 1/1.4inch sensor main camera isn't exactly industry leading. Its good enough compared to Samsung and Google, as they are still using current gen stacked Sony sensors unlike the "mainstream" flagships which are using shittier sensors with better computational processing - but not really comparable to the phones carrying proper photography hardware.
For me at least, that was fine for the 12 because a) this was reflected in the price compared to Xiaomi 14 Ultra, Oppo Find X8 pro etc. and b) I am very into my photography so I always have a APSC compact camera on me anyway so I don't care as much about smartphone photography. But with the 13, it seems like OnePlus has kept the sub-flagship camera setup whilst hiking the prices to flagship level.
If you are after a flagship android phone this year - IMHO skip OnePlus and pick-up a Xiaomi or a Vivo once they have their Snapdragon Elite phone out.
OnePlus 13 is 14, hope this helps
Why they switch the slider and volume locations, that's weird and unnecessary
I don't know if I'm ready...
I'd rather know whether OnePlus has fixed the horrible QA issues with their screens on the 11 and 12 models.
That seems to have been a massive issue and I'm dreading the day my 11 gets 'the vertical line of death'
I'm definitely considering switching from Samsung. Mostly for the dual SIM dual Active TBH. I'm waiting to see if the 25 Ultra will support DSDA or not. I've been using dual SIM dual standby on my 24 Ultra and it's not a great experience. It's even more frustrating knowing that the hardware is capable, it's just disabled, on a factory unlocked device. I left Verizon a while ago and switched to annual plans on Mint and Visible, which is way cheaper and I ALWAYS have signal on at least one of them. But, I really want them to both be active connections.
The issue is... If I'm at work talking on the phone with my wife and I enter a poor reception area, I'll have her call me on the other SIM... But, then I can't receive calls on my work line, so I miss calls and don't even get notified of them. So, the second I'm out of the poor reception area, I have to tell her to call my work line again. It's annoying. I really hope the 25 Ultra will have DSDA, but I'll likely switch to OnePlus if they don't.
I rarely complain on LMG content but this short circuit is botched. Most of the time it feels like the brightness of the screen is way down, it does not show the true look. The sensor downgrade is weirdly justified, the goal of the gen after is to be at least as good as the one before. And above all : that stuttering is NOT subtle at all, it's a huge issue!
I just checked and the sensor is bigger this year. You might be talking about megapixel count which is not really important? But it has a larger sensor in the OnePlus 13 and the OnePlus 12.
Why dont people make phones work properly for everything that they have in them... Like... Cameras that drop frames, Cameras that are worse than previous gen, speakers that are mediocre... Then they charge $1000 for them.....
This is why i buy Mid/Low Range phones cuz it just works as a phone and has cameras for its spec and speakers that do fine... and it didnt cost me 1k for a dissapointment..... (still has a 120hz OLED Display)
Does it have esim?
This was the most charming and down to earth smartphone video I've ever seen!
They removed the headphone jack and the massive increase in price makes OnePlus a no from me now. So much is just ok compred to similarly priced phones
2:58 The ghost of Linus!
Is this actually worth because at that price point the 24 ultra will drop to around 700 ish and will get more software support?
I've had the Oneplus 5T, Oneplus 7T & Oneplus 11 and I always feel like they're software updates continue to make the product worse, not better. I'm constantly losing minor functionality and struggling to learn workarounds for crap they've changed.
This is my experience with the 7T. Every android version made it worse.
@@MuttleyGamesYeah, but not just the Android updats. The OxygenOS updates too.
IOS & Android smartphones are both so aggravating.
still running a Oneplus Nord 5G. my experience after 5 years: not a bad phone, but I won't buying Oneplus again. security patch version is December 2023! there's virtually no effort in applying these. also: non standard fast charging. I'm not buying a second wall wart from Oneplus for the office and I don't need the China bloat, that comes pre-loaded(and only can be removed for te most part). also going for top tier instead of midrange on my next phone! there are more Details, why I won't be going for Oneplus, but this comment is already long enough
I'm still sporting my One+ 8 and It hasn't be a problem at all. I just need a phone. Not a gaming machine so I'm easy to please but still.
This or is it worth to spend more to get the Oppo Find X8 Pro?
Elijah slowly replaceing Linus over time 😂😂😂
Maybe it seems like a great time to jump from OnePlus 7 Pro, the iconic sliding selfie camera.
With Mid-rangers having IP67 already, hardware Optical Image Stabilization, plus 120FPS\ with decent cameras (like last year's Samsung A55) it's getting harder to justify expensive phones.
The camera stutters alone make it a no go, especially for the price. It's unacceptable.
the thermal throttling was 100% broken on the op12, so id be curious if the same issue exists on the 13. i bet if he kept playing cod for 10 more mins, the fps would have dropped to 50fps
More megapixels doesn't mean more quality...
it would be nice to see some actually demanding games in these. like wuthering waves. this would be lucky to get a smooth 60fps at maxed settings. also oneplus should have an internal game fps overlay which also shows the cpu and gpu utilization, unless they have removed it. but this is just my small nitpick, great review regardless. im kinda tempted, but my oneplus 7 pro is still going strong so not sure i can justify it.
I wish they'd confirm whether or not they're using a 2K dollar Miniot Wheel as a SET PIECE.
The 3 cubes light feature behind him is bugging me........