DualSense Calibration At Long Last
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- I’m going over the new software that allows calibration of the DualSense controller. It seems to eliminate most of the difficulties of getting a good replacement joystick. You now don’t have to match the old one that is being replaced. Also, I look at how it works when calibrating a couple of Hall effect joysticks.
Links: dualshock-tools.github.io
hardwaretester.com/gamepad
00:00 Intro
01:15 Controller Calibration walk-through
07:44 Hall Effect Joystick #1
09:37 Hall Effect Joystick #2
11:25 Using the DualShock Calibration GUI with Linux
11:57 Final Thoughts - Навчання та стиль
My dual sense is now calibrated! Now my hall effects dual sense is invincible! thank you!
Thanks for the video !!! I was waiting patiently for software to fix the centering issue and circularity with hall-effect sticks - I can not wait to try this.
This is a godsend! Thanks for sharing. Been waiting forever for something like this. Hopefully in the future the dev will be able to implement a wider range of controllers
Clearly I found your channel at the exact right time!! ❤
Wow I’m still so amazed that this is available. Ty for making the video and letting me know. You have no idea how much time you saved me. Ty!
Glad it was helpful!
THANK YOU! I just replaced my sticks on one controller and was looking to do Hall effects for the rest of my controllers this is going to help so much
Right, im doing the same - save lot of time for calibration with that project.
Thank you very much. I’ve heard of the site, but wasn’t sure of it. Now that a reputable person has given it the go ahead, I’ll try it out.
This was super helpful. Strong work as usual. Thank you again!!
You are so welcome!
amazing, very informative video, thank you, this fixed the right drift drift I was getting. Thank you so much
Glad it helped
My dualsense is working now much better with the calibration BIG UPS BRO
Thank you so much for this! Fixed drifting issues for both my current and old controller, thank you.🙏
Glad it helped!
Thank you Sir for sharing and your detailed explanation! To anyone that can help make sure to support the creator of the tool! Also, I can confirm it fixed my light drift without having to replace the right stick. Wanted to give this a try before doing the replacement and to my surprise it did fix it! Not 100% but 95% of the drift its gone, also the range was massively improved, went from 13.1/13.8 to 5.3/7.3 🥳 Subbed!!
Much appreciated!
Finally something to calibrate analogs. I will try this for sure, thanks.
Great content. Thanks for sharing ❤
Thanks for the comment.
Thanks alot mate, I just got my DualSense repaired / it's joystick replaced and once I tested it, it still stick drift to the left, but I figured that the drift is more consistent than before (like before it's just going left like 100% even with the slightest touch) but this time it's just a off center and thanks to this, I can finally enjoy GTA 5 PvP again.
Good to hear
Finally!!! This is so sick
Omg I can’t believe someone finally made this open source. So amazing.
This is so good and thanks to the original dev and this video to let me calibrate 2 old enough controller back to usable state. (one of them still needs a stick replacement but at least the other one is working until I can get the hall effect replacements. )
Great to hear!
@@metalplasticelectronics354 have you seen a new blue sensor that started to show on aliexpress(claims to use the stock PS5 joystick/shaft part)? I was wondering if I should get new ones or still get the orange(black text or red board) ones.
Great video helpful really
Glad it helped
this is awesome managed to get my average error to 3% on old controller
i will definitely order some hall effects since i dont need to tinker with them physically just software thank you man
if you disconnect the battery or the dualsense runs out of battery, it will get back to stock calibration, so its better to leave the hall joystick close to the center then calibrate
@@Heatlink1 no it doesn't for me its stays u have to activate the permanent write option i dont know if u even watched the video my guy ?
This is a game changer! Would like to see a future addition for calibration of the Scuf Envision Pro. Mine is drifting already.
thank you very much.
You are welcome!
I subscribed. Thanks for share. 👍
Thanks for the sub!
Thank you! 😄😁
Welcome!
That's look awesome 😎 let's try 👌🏻
- It was helpful, Thank you Sir 👍🏻🔝💯'
Glad to hear that
pretty nice
Nice job in explaining the walkthrough. Appreciated.
I had some drift in my original right Dual Sense controller and chose the "permanent" fix. It fixes it for about 10 minutes of gameplay but the drift still returns. I'll be replacing them with Hall Effect joysticks when they arrive. Wish me luck. LOL.
Yes, once the potentiometers are worn the only real fix is to replace them. And good luck.
Another excellent video 👍 I had a go with the software this week and found it useful for correcting the off-centre joysticks that I had replaced. Just a couple of points to note: 1) the gamepad tester (and calibration software also?) will not work correctly in Firefox so I had to use Edge, and 2) fake controllers cannot be calibrated.
Great tip!
Yeah the site says to use a chrome based browser. Edge is a version of Chrome.
Thanks man I almost gave up searching for a solution for my stick drift.
YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE ANALOG STICK FIRST
True, it's not going to make miracles happen with a worn out potentiometer joystick.
You are the men thanks alot just save 20€ for repair i raplace by my self analog but still get drift with this program i get circularity 5% which i better the new one from factory
Really useful, thanks! Tried it on my controller with a newly replaced potentiometer; well centred with nice circularity after a "permanent" calibration. However, the settings were all over the place after a little while, drifting appeared again and the stick was not centred anymore. Done a few times but still the same problem. Then I performed a controller reset right after the calibration, things seem to hold up so far. Will see.
Is it just one axis that is acting up? It does sound like a strange problem.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 One axis only indeed, the one axis that has a replaced potentiometer. However, after a few more days of observation, the problem seems not related to the calibration. It was off centred again after a few days regardless of a reset or not. Problem seems related to the potentiometer itself. Replaced with another one and seems fine now.
@@latenightgamer-gn4ds if it continues to happen, it could be the thumbstick's internal spring.
Will this work if connected to a Mac? Mine only goes to centre if it snaps back itself , if I slowly let it go to centre it’s off by 2% which is annoying in games that have no dead zone like inFamous but perfectly fine in COD which has adjustments and a default dead zone.
Work with dualsense edge with hall effect sticks?
No, not at the moment.
I replaced the analogs months ago and couldn't calibrate them. This worked great! I have 8% errors, but it feels OK even in FPS games like Destiny 2.
Excellent!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I F* LOVE YOU.
No problem
THANKSSSSSSSSSSS
This is great people need to know they can do something about their controllers
I tried this for one of my controllers that has stick drift and everything seem to calibrate all right but the issue is it’ll be sitting at center and then just randomly jerk left at times or if you even barely touch it left it jerks all the way to the left. Or if you’re pushing straight up, it’ll jerk to the left as well. Is it just a bad joystick that needs to be replaced? Thank you!
Sounds like a bad joystick, or really the potentiometer on the joystick is going bad.
So does the software add delay to the standard potentiometer joysticks or were you referring to using Hall effect joy sticks with this software? And being ok with the delay?
I was referring to the Hall effect joysticks; they will always have more delay than the potentiometers.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 thanks for clarifying 👍
I have to know, does this works if the joystick have 1 backward magnet like the k-silver you bought before?
The magnet will have to be rotated. else the left and right will be reversed.
Do you think the calibration board for hall effect sticks is still worth installing now that this calibration method is available? I understand they interfere a bit with how the controller goes back together
It's up to you if you want to spend more money. I would try without them first and use the free tool instead. And if you feel like the calibration board is still needed then buy it and try.
No need for a calibration board with this software.
Can you completely fix the square circularity with the hall effects using this? And is the a delay with the hall effect using it ?
I think so, as long as the Hall effect magnet has not been moved too far off center.
Hall effect sensors do tend to have issues with circularity, (8-15%) but hardly noticeable in any game.
Hi, at the end you indicated that Hall effect sticks are slower than potentiometer sticks. I’ve tried to find resources to look more into this, but can’t find much.
Can you please elaborate or make a video comparing the response times?
The Hall sensor IC has a Hall effect sensor some amplifiers and in the case of the Ginful, some filtering. That all adds a bit of delay. The only delay for the potentiometers is how much capacitance is on the center tap.
Does this work to fix drift in old sticks? Like my 2 years ol dualsense started drifting from the right stick last night, will this help deal with it?
It might help for a temporary fix but the drift is caused by the potentiometer wearing out.
I heard that there might be a correlation between users experiencing stick drift with Hall effect joysticks and the controller's speaker (Dualsense specifically). I heard that this issue primarily affects K-Silver Hall sticks, but the yellow ones may also exhibit the same problem.
I don't see how. It takes a pretty good magnetic field to affect the output of the sensor.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I'm not entirely sure myself. Hypr (those, custom controller guys) apparently removes the speaker because, the magnet apparently throws off the calibration. (Maybe it was due to the old pin pricking solution for the calibration)
Does this only work when the controller is plugged into pc or does the fix save and it will work on the console too?
It can save it so it works with the console.
Is it possible to recalibrate without replacing the analogues? The centering of my left analogue stick dualsense controller is off quite abit.
It might help for a bit. Maybe extend the life of the controller.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 ok. Thanks. I Will try it.
Anything like this for Xbox controllers? Can see the issue issue coming back overtime but at least you can get a few months or so out of it. Amazing
If the USB-C cable tends to disconnect with the controller depending how it’s positioned, would it be safer to just calibrate using Bluetooth pairing to PC?
I haven't tried Bluetooth so I don't know how well it works. But if the USB connector on the controller is going bad I think it would be risky to try and do a calibration. I would try a couple of temporary calibrations by way of Bluetooth and see how they go.
Does the calibration software stop stick drift or at least make the problem less frequent?
Stick drift is caused by the potentiometers wearing out. The calibration might correct it for a while, but it would only be temporary.
Please make a video on how to fix circularity after replacing with Hall effect joysticks if it cannot be fixed through software.
I'll see what I can find. With the Hall sensors, I believe magnet placement and sensor output level will control most of that. So I'm not sure much can be done about it.
Can this be used to calibrate hall effect joy sticks after installation
What I mean is does this mean I don't need to do mechanical calibration anymore?
Yep just installed one hall effect just for my right stick today and found this video by luck. It's pretty insane went from 20% to 7.5% in circularity test for the hall effect joystick. And my left side with just the regular joystick is 6%.
That's amazing!!
Hi, I managed to center my scuf reflex BDM-020 perfectly, but I can't fix the circular part, which is over 21% wrong... How can I do it? Help 🙏🏻
Is that a mod kit for the DualSense? And if so what kind of joysticks does it come with?
@@metalplasticelectronics354No, it's a normal dualsense, it just has the change to the rear sticks, it's a sony scuf, the motherboard is a BDM-020 like your video with the pink joystick, I can't fix avarage off axis, all 2 analogue ones are off by about 21%, I did exactly what you do in the video but only the perfect centering worked, but I can't do the external angular part like you in your video, I don't understand what I'm doing wrong... I would really like to be able to do it. .. How can I do? You can help me? Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Does it have the original joysticks still? If so, is something pushing the motherboard out of the position it's supposed to be in?
@@metalplasticelectronics354 Yes, but that's not the problem, the problem is that it doesn't write the EPROM, when it records in the center, when I turn the analogues like you do in the video, 3 times to the left, 3 times to the right slowly, the same at the first pass at 1x slow speed, do not write anything in the EPROM, the card is original Sony, the analogues are 2.5 kohm identical with little drift without calibration, I managed to write the drift in the perfect center, but the circular part remains at: AVG ERROR approximately 21%, can't anything be done? A reset from that calibration site or whatever to see if it works? I've never done it before on that site, that site is new, I had seen it, but I didn't think it would really work, however the card and the analogues are fine, except that they come out off axis, the center it's fantastic, but I can't do the rotation... There's something wrong... I would like to know if it can be reset without risking it. A thousand thanks. 🙏🏻
There are some debug buttons at the bottom of the DualShock Calibration page. Check and see what the NVS status is when clicking on the NVS unlock and NVS lock buttons. The status should change. Also, try a hardware reset of the controller. Here are the instructions: www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/troubleshoot-dualsense/ . I think the reset on the web page is a soft reset, but I am not sure about that. I would do the hardware reset and try the calibration again.
it doesn't work for the dual sense edge sadly :(
@metalplasticelectronics354 is there anything that can do this with an xbox controller?
I don't know.
What web browser do you use, because I tried Firefox and it doesn't support
Try Edge or Chrome instead.
It's definitely Chrome. I'm a Firefox user myself but I always keep Chrome installed too for just this sort of thing. Hardwaretester itself doesn't work on Firefox either (not properly anyway). I believe it's a WebHID support issue. It's the same reason keyboard configurators like QMK / VIA don't work on FF.
Can it also be done with the DualShock 4? If you make a mistake, can you rewrite it? Thank you
I did my initial testing with a DualShock V2. Yes, it can be rewritten a lot of times. I expect thousands of write cycles these days for the EEPROM memory in these controllers.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 thx 👍🏻
Hi am I right in thinking don’t need to install pcb driver now when installing Hall effect
I really don't think so. There is a new V5 Hall Effect joystick that has improved many of the complaints people had with past hall effect joysticks. It even uses bigger magnets that are a different shape. Old versions used a rectangular magnet.
@syn80 where can one get those new ones?
@@theeron youtube keeps hiding my reply when I try telling you even though i didnt post a link. not sure how to tell you.
Only the channel owner can see hidden comments and manually approve them so you can see.
can u test hall effect dualsense at ps5 instead of testing PC? i would like understand hall effect no issue on console
I don't know of a program for the PS5 that will show circularity. I just use the Gamepad tester for the numbers. After I replace a joystick I always play a few games on the PS5 to make sure it works.
every single dualsense owner needs to know about this first before replacing their joysticks or buying a new controller
its unfair that the dualsense edge gets to have a drift calibration settings on the ps5 but not the regular dualsense
It's like big companies don't like their customers.
Can this fix strick drift??
Possibly depending on how worn out the stock joysticks are. This is most useful for those who have hall effect joysticks.
You mentioned there was input delay difference between Hall Effect sticks and potentiometer sticks? Is that proven? I’m a purely competitive FPS gamer, so speed and accuracy is the most important to me.
The Hall effect sensors are going to have some delay. I measured about 2 to 3 milliseconds on the K-Silver ones, a really small amount. I can't tell the difference between them and a regular potentiometer joystick.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 Thank you for your response sir! Have you ever detected a delay with the ginful v3’s? They’re the yellow or orange and red hall effects
Not yet. I've gotten two kits from Amazon, and they both look like the same joysticks. Red PC board with black silkscreen. I just haven't had time to test them. I hope to find the time this weekend.
will this work on dual sense edge
I think I read in The_Al's blog that it currently doesn't work on the edge controller. The_Al didn't have one to test with, if I remember right.
Not yet, but it is a work in progress and it will be added if the firmware can be modified.
dualsense edge not supporter :C
does it work with the ps4 controller
Yes, it originally was a 3rd party tool for users of that controller. Then they were able get it working for the Dualsense.
can using this be bannable for certain games that have an anti cheat?
I would expect this is how Sony aligns the controllers when they are built. So it will still be an original DualSense controller.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 thats good to know, wasn't sure about using this at first cause of that. Thank you!
in FPS games the mechanical limit issue is very bad for aiming
I have the same problem. My aim is so off:/
@@MesutCan-pe5uz i found aliexpress sells original joysticks and i know since the joysticks need calibration fake ones do not need calibration
After calibration my stick got so stiff. Why? My aim is off after that. Anything to reset or go back to default please!
It has zero effect on the spring inside each joystick. That spring is there so the joystick snaps back to the center when you let go of it.
I hope Sony don't protect the controllers with a firmware update, although that would be logical on their part. That would hit their controller sales hard.
The right thing for Sony to do is give us the ability to do this through a PS5 firmware update. Xbox added a similar calibration tool in their firmware, but I don't think it works as well as this.
Yes that would be the stand up thing for Sony to do.
Strange how every time I make a comment on your videos it gets deleted for no reason.
I've had a few people say that. I'm not sure why it happens.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I think youtube falsely detecting comments as spam or advertisements. you should be able to see the comments on your youtube dashboard to confirm they are or are not.
Is there a way I can contact you that isn't through UA-cam? I have some really useful information that you could possibly share through your videos. UA-cam likes to hide some of my comments making it hard to communicate directly with you.
@metalplasticelectronics354
@@syn80 mike@mlplel.com should work.