I think the pushback that people have is more with the language than the practice. The example you mentioned about the ancient church is perfect to illustrate that. The way I'm wired, I get the ick when overemphasizing a "fluid experience" because that absolutely sounds performative, syncretistic, and experiential rather than authentic and God-honoring. BUT, having a person help engage people within the service and coach them on where we are going so that nobody is in the dark and people feel cared for and informed about our liturgy so that they can be included is obviously way more words, but way less icky-sounding. At the end of the day, same function and practice, but language that may be more palatable for traditional-types. I definitely don't disagree with the value of bringing people along and inviting them to participate in a more informed, structured way. Super good.
Brady, thanks for this video. I really like this concept. I recently moved and started attending a new church, which is much smaller (50 - 60 people) and less programmed. I came from a larger church (2500+) and never noticed all the things done to ensure smooth transition and consistency. I have talked to my pastor about my first impressions and am now in charge of improving it. Funny story: On our first service at this church, one of the transitions went like this: Church Leader: "You know what time it is." (Then, everyone stood up and started walking around and greeting each other.) Me: "Nope, I have no idea what time it is - my best guess is intermission."
Seems this is more for the "mega-churches' which some of us aren't very fond of.........Megachurches seem to THRIVE on the 'show' not the Bible. , just my opinion for where I'm at..........the 'greeters' and the pastor can do all the 'hosting' that's needed
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I think the pushback that people have is more with the language than the practice. The example you mentioned about the ancient church is perfect to illustrate that. The way I'm wired, I get the ick when overemphasizing a "fluid experience" because that absolutely sounds performative, syncretistic, and experiential rather than authentic and God-honoring. BUT, having a person help engage people within the service and coach them on where we are going so that nobody is in the dark and people feel cared for and informed about our liturgy so that they can be included is obviously way more words, but way less icky-sounding. At the end of the day, same function and practice, but language that may be more palatable for traditional-types. I definitely don't disagree with the value of bringing people along and inviting them to participate in a more informed, structured way. Super good.
PS, dollars to donuts, Judah Smith's handheld is a prop
The conspiracy theory lives!
I'm glad that you addressed the "why" and that it wasn't about a "show."
Brady, thanks for this video. I really like this concept. I recently moved and started attending a new church, which is much smaller (50 - 60 people) and less programmed. I came from a larger church (2500+) and never noticed all the things done to ensure smooth transition and consistency. I have talked to my pastor about my first impressions and am now in charge of improving it.
Funny story: On our first service at this church, one of the transitions went like this:
Church Leader: "You know what time it is." (Then, everyone stood up and started walking around and greeting each other.)
Me: "Nope, I have no idea what time it is - my best guess is intermission."
That’s a great insight. And with you being newer to the church, you can see things in this season that others won’t be able to. Valuable!
This is such solid content!! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Where did you say those word-for-word scripts are to be found?
Scripting discussion starts at 15:49
Have you reached the 1k churches yet #bradyshreaer?
Waiting list is still open: www.nucleus.church/makeovers
Seems this is more for the "mega-churches' which some of us aren't very fond of.........Megachurches seem to THRIVE on the 'show' not the Bible. , just my opinion for where I'm at..........the 'greeters' and the pastor can do all the 'hosting' that's needed
Alex is the pastor on this show and he’s a pastor at a church of fewer than 100.