Canon 10-20 f4L RF REVIEW: WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY! (vs Canon 11-24)

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  • @therealphoenixrl
    @therealphoenixrl Рік тому +16

    Thanks Jared as always! Through out the years you have guided me on photography, I just wanna express my thank you, god bless and keep making wonderful content!

  • @bmcla34
    @bmcla34 Рік тому +65

    I use the control ring to change the AF area. It's pretty nice for what i do with landscapes, which can turn into wildlife pretty quickly, so i like being able to change the AF area quickly with the control ring. If you accidentally change it the affect is pretty minimal, well at least for me.

    • @kylegoodman5196
      @kylegoodman5196 Рік тому +6

      Glad to know I'm not the only person who does this!

    • @bmcla34
      @bmcla34 Рік тому

      @@kylegoodman5196 Agreed! It made a lot sense to me when i originally set it, and it's come in handy quite a few times since i switched to the RF lineup.

    • @sebastianreiprich3747
      @sebastianreiprich3747 Рік тому +1

      Same here 🤚

    • @davidphillips9190
      @davidphillips9190 Рік тому +2

      I do that as well. Perfect for wildlife and grandkids' birthday parties, but I repeat myself.

    • @sethholston6128
      @sethholston6128 Рік тому +1

      Whoa whoa whoa I’m definitely trying this

  • @frandecatta
    @frandecatta Рік тому +8

    As a wedding photographer, working with natural and different lights, is awesome to have the ISO in the control ring to change those values really fast. Thanks to it, I took some photos in the past that, being slowly in other dial, wouldn't be possible to take. Upper dial to change time value, upper-rear dial aperture value and Control ring to change iso, all the fingers in natural position. The low rear-dial is to chanfe Kelvins. For me, that's the best combination to work :)

  • @ArthurKite
    @ArthurKite Рік тому +14

    Jared, you can set the control ring to change your ISO. And, to not change ir acidentally, you can set it to only change the ISO with the shutter button half pressed.

    • @matthijs3134
      @matthijs3134 11 місяців тому +2

      How do you do this? This sounds quite handy actually

    • @bbasiaga
      @bbasiaga 3 місяці тому

      ​@matthijs3134 with the lens attached, the custom controls menu in the camera will let you set up its function.

  • @Adam.Robert
    @Adam.Robert Рік тому +9

    On R8, I use the control ring for ISO. On C70, I use the control ring for iris. On R5, I use it for exposure compensation when I'm using one of the program modes.

  • @onlysublime
    @onlysublime Рік тому +1

    That stadium shot is spectacular ! I've got the lens pre-ordered at B&H! Can't wait !!!

  • @RileyMonthule
    @RileyMonthule Рік тому +4

    The control ring is great for vlogging in full manual. I can change my veritable ND or use the ring to change iso all on the front of the lens without having to blindly reach behind the camera.

  • @AnthonyGugliotta
    @AnthonyGugliotta Рік тому

    I use the control ring to mind control the subjects that I shoot

  • @dude463waze6
    @dude463waze6 Рік тому +3

    As a real estate photographer I'm just going to point out that it's the real estate agents that hire us that keep saying they want it to look wider than it is. I'd use the 20mm end of this lens plenty but would probably use the middle of the zoom more than anything. Small bathrooms would get the wide end.

  • @hindermath
    @hindermath Рік тому +1

    I am using the control ring for changing AF modes.

  • @SteveP_2426
    @SteveP_2426 Рік тому +3

    I use the control ring for ISO on all my RF lenses. I mostly shoot landscapes and it's handy to easily alter ISO in different lights.

  • @richardgagne7931
    @richardgagne7931 4 місяці тому

    For the control ring I use it for Exposure comp or to change the Kelvin temperature. I use Custom setting (C1, C2 C3) for the programming of the control ring

  • @dougsmit1
    @dougsmit1 Рік тому

    I did not expect you to address the question but you touched on the subjects in a way. There is more than one third party lens that covers FF at 10mm or under (9 is wider than 10) but does it with manual focus only. Like you said, depth of field is considerable at this focal length. Also, you will have to do manual corrections for vignetting and whatever else you find necessary. In return the prices are a fraction of the Canon list. If price is no object, the compactness might be for some.

  • @mathewspencer4323
    @mathewspencer4323 Рік тому +1

    I use the control ring to switch between object detect auto focus and point auto focus / the different types of autofocus.

  • @closeshot7161
    @closeshot7161 Рік тому +2

    With the EF lens, you can use the EF-RF adapter with drop in polarizer - for some, that may be a plus.

    • @gerrya2133
      @gerrya2133 Рік тому +1

      I thought for sure I would never move on from the EF lens precisely because of the ease of using filters on a lens with front element that juts out like that.
      But that size and weight reduction is substantial. In a cylinder shape instead of mushrooming at the front. It's so much easier to pack now.
      Canon knows what they're doing. I thought it was going to be an easy pass. But now I have to think about it.

  • @DavidJames-sv9sm
    @DavidJames-sv9sm Рік тому +1

    Having "grown up" with EF lenses without a control ring I'm just not used to one.
    So it's set to off. 😆
    I did try, but kept forgetting about it🤔
    The R5 has an extra dial that the 5D mk4 did not, so three dials is plenty.
    Also found the control ring inconsistent in location.
    Might be an age thing. 🤣

  • @Nathan.1882
    @Nathan.1882 Рік тому +1

    I use my control ring on all my RF glass for aperture. It helps it feel more hands-on and keep my shooting interesting. Despite what you think about "accidently" moving the dial, i have never accidently switched the aperture settings on it ever.

  • @richarddenise3886
    @richarddenise3886 Рік тому

    In one word: Excellent! It will be a permanent addition to any Trinity kit with the 28-70/2 in the middle!

  • @JohnMacLeanPhotography
    @JohnMacLeanPhotography Рік тому +3

    Back around 1980 when I got my first UWA lens, the Nikkor 20mm f/3.5 Ai, it was considered very wide and affordable compared to the Nikkor 15mm and 13mm behemoths. Now 20mm seems like a 28mm or even 35mm did then. I have had the EF 11-24mm since Feb 2017. I can't say I use it all that often, but it comes in handy for unique image compositions when the opportunities arise. I've got the 10-20 on pre-order to both rent and to buy, whichever is available first. I'll probably end up selling the 11-24.

  • @kdw75
    @kdw75 Рік тому +2

    JARED! I would love to see a video of your workflow for making a youtube video.

  • @matthijs3134
    @matthijs3134 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for this review! I just moved from EF to RF and the only lens that's missing in my bag next to my 28-70 and 100-500 is a wide angle for those nice interior shots and this sold me on the 10-20!

  • @sajjanreshami
    @sajjanreshami Рік тому +3

    Thank you for this amazing review. I really liked the lens and thinking about adding it to my kit in near future. As you asked us what we used customizable ring for, in my case I used it to quickly change my kelvin value when the white balance is set to K mode. In that way I can change shutter speed, Aperture, ISO, and white balance in the fly.

  • @DaneRThomas
    @DaneRThomas Рік тому

    I use the control ring to adjust exposure compensation to better deal with backlit situations or to avoid clipping highlights

  • @jasonatkinson2542
    @jasonatkinson2542 Рік тому

    Thanks Jared, this is the lens I've been waiting for, great review esp under lights

  • @HikingBob
    @HikingBob Рік тому +1

    I don't use the control ring because it's too easy to turn by accident and I don't want to accidently change some vital setting.

  • @ChefInRealEstate_Photography
    @ChefInRealEstate_Photography 9 днів тому

    Amazing review as always Jared! I do believe I'm gonna buy this one in few days... I was considering to order the 11-24mm because I found it out for sale for 1.300€ but I just found out it doesn't have IS and considering I have a Canon R8 which doesn't have IS either, no doubt I'm gonna opt for the 10-20mm for Real Estate Photography. Thanks a bunch and keep up the great videos!

  • @alfredogalindo2659
    @alfredogalindo2659 Рік тому

    I always watch your new videos and re-view the old ones, I use the control ring to change focus mode, as a wedding photographer with changing people and objects very quickly in front of my camera, with a little twist of the control ring, "voila" move from face detection to single point focus.

  • @bbasiaga
    @bbasiaga 3 місяці тому

    On my way back grom Arches National Park. You can get up close to a lot of huge things there. My 16mm 2.8 was the most used lens, but i coud have used wider more than a few times. Maybe i should consider this.....

  • @richardgagne7931
    @richardgagne7931 Рік тому

    For the control ring I use it to for Exposure Comp

  • @rhykko77
    @rhykko77 Рік тому

    Some great shots there Jared !

  • @travelexplorer
    @travelexplorer 29 днів тому

    I am using the Lowa 10mm 2.8 on my R5C and Is fantastic!, the ultra wide factor works wanders in tourism images

  • @Sam1986E
    @Sam1986E Рік тому

    I use the control ring to change focus points (including eye detection)
    Pre-ordered this lens and excited to check it out

  • @ElijahsAba
    @ElijahsAba Рік тому +2

    Been using Sony’s 12-24 with my Nikon Z - works great.

  • @Stego86
    @Stego86 Рік тому

    Very good coverage of all the main aspects of this beast of a lens!

  • @julh5336
    @julh5336 Рік тому

    The controll ring is awesome for iso setting

  • @lynsmith1096
    @lynsmith1096 Рік тому

    Good review and shots Jared.

  • @julius4858
    @julius4858 Рік тому

    I use the control ring for exposure compensation

  • @adamfalgout6601
    @adamfalgout6601 Рік тому

    I use the Control ring constantly for white balance control for video and photos, since I short manual white balance.

  • @photojasinski
    @photojasinski Рік тому +1

    I'm so excited for this lens! I love my 11-24 with the ND filter adapter, but I travel more than I am home so this is a perfect replacement for that old EF lens and my RF 14-35!

    • @dream3443
      @dream3443 Рік тому +1

      Do you feel having the ND Filter Adapter & EF 11-24mm is worth trading out for the 10mm? I have the same setup and wonder if it's worth it vs stepping back a bit. The lens however is alluring. Would like your thoughts.

    • @photojasinski
      @photojasinski Рік тому

      Just received my 10-20 and will have the opportunity to test it out this week. So far the size and weight is crazy better compared to the 11-24. The lens is even lighter than the 14-35. Hopefully rear gelatin filters can be used similarly to the ND filter adapter on the EF. If it weren’t for travel I wouldn’t rush to replace my 11-24. @@dream3443

  • @maksrej5082
    @maksrej5082 Рік тому +1

    I would love to have this lens because i love shooting wide, really wide

  • @SteelRiderCarl
    @SteelRiderCarl Рік тому +1

    Vignetting correction on+distortion correction OFF=🔥🔥🔥🔥 But what do I like about this the most? Getting a used 11-24mm which is still amazing for less!

  • @lovemycity420
    @lovemycity420 Рік тому

    I use the control ring to change focus modes, usually going from face tracking to one point back and forth!

  • @L0wr0ad
    @L0wr0ad Рік тому +1

    awesome lens design

  • @oskarlundberg1151
    @oskarlundberg1151 Рік тому

    I use the controll ring for white balance, works great. Not really a necessity in any way but nice to have a easy way to change it while looking through the view finder

  • @KepaWong
    @KepaWong Рік тому

    I use the control ring for exposure compensation.

  • @zekromjr9979
    @zekromjr9979 7 місяців тому

    I use the control ring for the white balance

  • @danwhitton7966
    @danwhitton7966 10 місяців тому +2

    I wish the lens was faster somewhere between 1.4 - 2.0 for astrophotography. I wonder what the noise would be like in a milkyway shot at F4 with a higher ISO. Maybe Sigma will release an RF mount equivalent at 1.4.

  • @aspotterabroad4145
    @aspotterabroad4145 10 місяців тому

    I just found myself in a situation, photographing inside an aircraft, where my 24-105 wasn’t going to be wide enough. The only thing wide enough that I had was the 8-15mm fisheye. Sure, I got one or two shots that work with the fisheye, but I can submit an entire set of that now can I !! Looks like I now need this 10-20mm lens, thanks Fro !

  • @MonsieurSansHonte
    @MonsieurSansHonte 5 місяців тому

    I use the control ring to adjust the ISO setting.

  • @davidligon6088
    @davidligon6088 Рік тому

    Great review. I like the way you showed vignetting, and your Lightroom correction settings. FYI: I have the Sony 20-70 F4 and I love it! It has a bit more vignetting than the Canon 10-20. At first, I thought it was my filter. I would opt for the 10-20 F4 rather than the 14-35 F4, myself, as long as the corners were sharp, but I cannot help but point out that you are shooting at 20mm at 12:57. I doubt I would miss the 20-24 much.

  • @Davitor1
    @Davitor1 Рік тому

    I use the outer ring to change AF methods from faces, spot AF, 1 point AF, expanded etc.

  • @trnwired
    @trnwired 10 місяців тому

    Great video. Helped me out a lot in deciding whether I wanted to add this lens to my bag. Been using a Sigma 14 mm f 2.8 with adapter on my Canon R Series cameras.

  • @peaceyoman123
    @peaceyoman123 Рік тому

    i use tha control ring for appiture as well as the back dile for my R6ii. not a lens i can justify anytime soon, but i love that it is out and love this for you.
    keep it up.

  • @rtfinklea
    @rtfinklea Рік тому

    I use the control ring for ISO. Set to hold the shutter button down halfway to adjust. Incredibly convenient

  • @mrhallphotography
    @mrhallphotography Рік тому

    I use the control ring for exposure compensation when shooting landscapes and MACRO..

  • @WhyitJellyDonut
    @WhyitJellyDonut Рік тому

    I use the control ring for exposure compensation and leave ISO on auto. I let the camera change the ISO up or down when Im changing subjects from sunny to shaded areas and use exposure compenation to correct for when auto iso is wrong with backlit subjects or high contrast areas, auto iso is also way faster than I ever could manually and it works great!

  • @tieuhotieulong
    @tieuhotieulong Місяць тому

    control ring is so fantastic, i use for iso

  • @adjake1
    @adjake1 Рік тому

    I actually occasionally use the ring when shooting in kelvin. certain light conditions shooting landscapes I can't always visualize the shot in the viewfinder because the color is way off. not often

  • @unclebuck5957
    @unclebuck5957 Рік тому

    Love the pictures you did with this lens 10 mm looks great

  • @richgodfrey7242
    @richgodfrey7242 Рік тому

    Great review. Thank you.

  • @b7_jose278
    @b7_jose278 Рік тому

    I use the control ring on the R8 to change aperture. This is what I change the least. Now I can change the iso and shutter on proper dials.

  • @josephchan4198
    @josephchan4198 Рік тому

    Thanks for the review.

  • @ElliotFranco
    @ElliotFranco Рік тому

    Thank you again Jared for your reviews

  • @segercliffhanger
    @segercliffhanger Рік тому

    Control ring for exposure compensation. I set aperture and speed to manual and ISO to auto. Whenever I change my F or S (or both), auto ISO takes care of at least a decent exposure (in my kind of photography, quick reaction matters). If I need to, I can add light to or take away light from that decent exposure, using the control ring to simply dial in a few or a lot of extra + or - 1/3 of 1/2 stops. Sitting right on the lens, it feels like opening or closing a can of light, haptonomically correct.

    • @CassioHungria85
      @CassioHungria85 Рік тому

      Why not set it to ISO then?

    • @segercliffhanger
      @segercliffhanger Рік тому

      @@CassioHungria85 Because then, the ring would be setting bare ISO values. I set my control ring to manually add to or subtract from auto-ISO values my camera finds and dials in for me.

  • @drummerg3331
    @drummerg3331 Рік тому +1

    Great review Jared! This would be a great lens to video my daughter’s volleyball games so that the entire court fits on the screen without having to pan back and forth. Also, I use the control ring to easily and quickly change my focus areas (for example, a switch from spot focus to wide area). I find this much quicker than going into the menu.

  • @JohnScarrott
    @JohnScarrott Рік тому

    The lens I've been waiting for! 🥳🥳🥳 UK price is a joke though at £2,579.99 which is US$3138.64, that's $839.64 more than the US price, which is a staggering 36.5% more! And they wonder why people in the UK buy grey imports 🙄🙄 I'll be buying from the UK as I need the UK warranty on it, so I'll have to wait for a decent sale price before I get one. Great shots by the way! 🤩

  • @thecalebpringle
    @thecalebpringle Рік тому

    I've always had the control ring set to Kelvin for video. Don't really use it in photo that much.

  • @johnjr47
    @johnjr47 Рік тому

    Thank U for review awesome Lens !!!!!

  • @IsaacTrippetPersonal
    @IsaacTrippetPersonal Рік тому

    I use the control ring for white balance because it is useful for the viewfinder, but not essential when shooting RAW

  • @emotionblur7214
    @emotionblur7214 Рік тому

    Good and exhaustive review as usual. One question though: how can you tell that it's "10mm corrected", is that what Canon specifically claims? Otherwise, you should properly, precisely measure the field of view to verify that. Comparing with another lens wouldn't do, because also the other lens is corrected in its own way.

    • @trevor9934
      @trevor9934 7 місяців тому +1

      It is 10mm corrected. What happens, and Jarod demonstrated this, is that the actual Field of View captured before correction is like using a 8 or 9mm FL lens. That extra area is used by the algorithms applied in camera to the EVF and LCD displays as you shoot, JPGs in camera, and via lens correction in PS and LR to render the now corrected image with a Field of View of 10-20mm.

  • @andriimartynov83
    @andriimartynov83 Рік тому

    I use the control ring as an exposure compensation control because my RP is lacking the third control ring. It’s a useful feature for the budget cameras.

  • @thor9722
    @thor9722 Рік тому

    Control ring for switch focus type, especially when you try to focus people but eye focus just can’t land the eye you want, then you need a quick switch to point focus.

  • @moontecker
    @moontecker Рік тому

    I already preorder mine.

  • @Soul_Visuals_Photography
    @Soul_Visuals_Photography Рік тому

    I use the control ring for white balance

  • @clerle
    @clerle Рік тому

    Great review Jared: I'm very curious to know how it will perform on the R5 MKII, or maybe on the R1... 😉

  • @bikermann42
    @bikermann42 8 місяців тому

    Control ring for ISO. Wish I'd had this lens for the aurora borealis display last week.

  • @Aureas133
    @Aureas133 Рік тому +2

    Cant wait to get my hands on a second hand version in 15 years when the price enters the realm of average joe

  • @JonMurray
    @JonMurray Рік тому

    Awesome shots dude.

  • @drouhizGR
    @drouhizGR Рік тому

    Crazy lens,video

  • @trackfast5563
    @trackfast5563 Рік тому

    I use the control ring to switch between AF methods

  • @clinttrahan
    @clinttrahan Рік тому

    I use the control ring for manual white balance. being color blind, i find auto WB too hard in post; so its set to adjust WB.

  • @ESmiththers
    @ESmiththers 2 місяці тому

    I could use that for starshots!

  • @budthecyborg4575
    @budthecyborg4575 Рік тому

    5:23 "Wider without correction."
    Interesting, this means that with the R7 you're potentially getting as much as 14mm equivalent FoV instead of the expected 16mm.

  • @360PictureUK
    @360PictureUK Рік тому

    I have to get this lens! When using my 14-35 f4 i like to use the control ring for the exposure compensation, i'm a real estate photographer so find this useful.

  • @ag_craft2867
    @ag_craft2867 Рік тому

    I'd use the customizable ring with the iso

  • @clayeewing
    @clayeewing Рік тому

    Switching from FD to EF to RF, control rings fall outside my need range. I've been waiting for over a month for this lens (RF 10-20) to be sent out, and only slowed enough before ordering to have the camera store give me a good price (as good as it gets, and better than I saw on eBay) on my EF 11-24. I've loved the 11-24 since it came out and haven't regretted the purchase price even once...except for not wanting to carry it into the back country or anywhere, for that matter, except for the specific places I've used it (mostly real estate interiors). Take away half the size and weight, and I foresee this being in my bag or on my camera all the time. I'll see if that little button on the side gets any more use than the control rings on my RF lenses.

  • @GeoffHolman
    @GeoffHolman Рік тому

    so excited for this lens

  • @genxtechguy
    @genxtechguy Рік тому

    Love this lens. Go Diamondbacks!! 😉

  • @meteoritoIII
    @meteoritoIII Рік тому

    Hi Jared! I use the control ring on my RF lens to set White Balance ;) cheers from Chile!

  • @p.c.1346
    @p.c.1346 Рік тому

    Can I use your Presets also if I only use Cameraw Raw??? Or it only works with Lightroom? Thanks for the Great Stuff from a German Canon Fan Boy (since 2004)....

  • @matthewsinger
    @matthewsinger Рік тому

    I use the control ring for ISO. I'm sure you've already thought of that, and, like me, sometimes I hit the control ring when I mean to adjust the focus, so I'm ambivalent about it. But I do find it useful on my camera which doesn't have a 3rd dial on the body.

  • @StephenSkoutas
    @StephenSkoutas Рік тому

    I saw you shoot at 20mm out in the field. 😊

  • @Bad_Wolf_Media
    @Bad_Wolf_Media Рік тому +1

    Looks like a great new addition to the kit. If you need somewhere to store that 11-24 that you presumably won't be using now, Jared, just let me know!

  • @luvo_studio
    @luvo_studio Рік тому

    I love that image taken in the corner of the stands. I wish Nikon would have an option for us!

  • @Mathieu_Matheow_Benoit
    @Mathieu_Matheow_Benoit Рік тому

    I just got a R8(mostly based on your review btw) for wildlife and all my lenses are EF for now.
    The use i can think of for the control ring is to (rarely) adjust my aperture.

  • @funkykiller666
    @funkykiller666 Рік тому

    Hi Jared, personnaly, il use the control ring for aperture. You have two dials on your body and one on your lens for the three basics setup of photography. Thanks for all your content, fresh news and consistant tests. Did you already try Olympus OM1 ? Il know you don't like MFT, but the focus staking and HDR is amazigly fast versus the others brands.

  • @garethcooper3544
    @garethcooper3544 Рік тому

    Hi Jared, the uncorrected extra crazy wide corners is an unexpected feature of this lens. I really like the images at the end of your review...love the B&W selfie in the helicopter...could you post a 100% crop of the reflection in your sun glasses? that would be fun to see...and demonstrate the bonkers DOF that a 10mm lens offers.
    I do thing the limited long end is a wee dissapointment...we would all have loved to see this extend out to 24mm....but hey, it's the lens that Canon have given us and it's an amazing tool. it's not a particularly useful lens for serious landsacpe work due to the lack of filter support....however for photojournalism...this lens is amazing and possibly the last word in walkabouts UWA lenses. Especially how well it behaves in contre-jour and back lit situations. OMG, best sunstars ever...and no ghosting, ugly sreaks, flare or fringing.

  • @G95G95
    @G95G95 Рік тому +1

    I want this lens, I do actually wish it went to 24 though, and here's why, 24 is long enough for general purpose shooting, 20 is firmly ultrawide.
    It would have been amazing to not have to be limited to ultrawide only shots when using this lens, if it had 24, you could take this single lens to many settings and instantly jump from crazy ultrawide, to 24 which is super versatile, 10-20 can't really stand alone, it's firmly an exotic, special use lens.
    I also hate the control ring, and just disable it, and put a strip off black tape over it for better grip/handling.

    • @MrWoodward42
      @MrWoodward42 Рік тому +1

      @G95G95 You may want to consider the Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 Art lens (EF mount) -- It's 1/2 the price of the Canon lens reviewed here, just as sharp, and 1 full stop faster! No OIS -- But do you really need IS on such a wide-angle lens now that most Canon bodies have IBIS? Sure, it doesn't go to 10mm, but 14mm is pretty darn wide. And it reaches that special 24mm that you're seeking.

    • @G95G95
      @G95G95 Рік тому

      @@MrWoodward42 I already have the RF15-35/2.8.
      My point is that having record setting 10mm is awesome, and it would be even more awesome if in order to use it, you didn't have to lose a more normal versatile fov.
      But yeah, 14-24 it's a good range too

    • @trevor9934
      @trevor9934 7 місяців тому +1

      @G95G95 @@MrWoodward42 Well, for a considerable saving, one could get the RF 14-35L f/4 IS USM that offers a much wider focal range, takes a normal 77mm filter has image stabilization that works with IBIS and has similar image correction to the 10-20. I have one and it's absolutely stunning. I tend to need that extra stop of light less, certainly for DoF because with such short FL, the DoF is massive, and the stabilization more than makes up for the stop of light compared to the Sigma, which would require an EF-RF adapter and is not supported by Canon, so if you have issues, it's up to Sigma to sort them out.

  • @iang7007
    @iang7007 Місяць тому

    Thanks Jared :) Do you have lens aberration correction turned on in camera for these shots? we have a new R1 and RF10-20 trying to figure this out. thanks :)

  • @gerry9306
    @gerry9306 Рік тому

    Hey dude, Fro forever bruh!