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  • Not all chain is created equal. Before you buy your anchor chain, make sure you learn from our mistakes...
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  • @tomodorecoast3464
    @tomodorecoast3464 3 роки тому +15

    The anchor swivel will be side loaded not just when retrieving but at anchor when the wind or current shifts. Modern anchor design hold better so side loading more likely than older Delta or CQR types.Consider adding a quality galvanized bow shackle and short chain between anchor and swivel. Not an issue in calm and even moderate conditions but in a blow it is one less worry.

    • @abakker
      @abakker Рік тому

      Yes, Rocna recommends this also and i did the same.

  • @scenefromabove
    @scenefromabove 6 років тому +21

    Just want to publicly thank you both for the box of Mexican memories I was fortunate to win some time ago. I am still sifting thrtough the goodies, savouring them, and I for one am pretty sure that not too many folks here in an Australian small coastal town will understand the significance of my new Mexican flag, or recognize my new "Don't buy the couch!" Tshirt! Thanks again

  • @Jmmondeau
    @Jmmondeau 6 років тому +15

    So sorry Dan... I saw that hand pinch coming. Yep too many years at this job. Love you guys.

  • @RiggingDoctor
    @RiggingDoctor 5 років тому +24

    Beautiful bronze! Love the new bow roller

  • @waiakalulu3501
    @waiakalulu3501 6 років тому +3

    The bronze anchor roller bushing was just an awesome sight to see. Machinist fathers are richest resources our world has ever known. You should be so proud. Lucky to have them!!!!

  • @p.d.smithjr.3277
    @p.d.smithjr.3277 6 років тому +11

    Greetings. You two are actually the second crew I’ve seen do that while installing an anchor on utube. The first one broke skin and may have been worse!
    It was a British couple the first time. I’m fairly sure I won’t make the mistake, after seeing it twice. I’m a good visual learner. If I do forget, I hope I’m lucky enough to have a beautiful young lady around to kiss it. Thank you.
    Hope it heals well.

  • @zguesss
    @zguesss 4 роки тому +2

    Your channel is a good example of buy once, cry once! Love your work guys keep it up!

  • @nagarajprasadh
    @nagarajprasadh 3 роки тому

    I don’t have a boat. I don’t like boats. Seen an anchor only when It was 50 feet away. But thoroughly enjoyed the two of you replace the anchor chain. You made it so watchable. Fantastic narration and could not stop watching it. Thank you.

  • @BoB-Dobbs_leaning-left
    @BoB-Dobbs_leaning-left 5 років тому +175

    If you are not using a guard or face mask Never use a grinder with a cutoff wheel in line with your face, especially when cutting in a deep cut. If the wheel catches and fractures you could end up with a horrendous facial injury or even lose an eye.
    Word to the wise.
    Edit, glad to see I'm not the only one that knows this...
    ;-)

    • @chronicawareness9986
      @chronicawareness9986 5 років тому +4

      i knew a guy with fucked up vision from doing that... his eyes had dark bits in them from stuff

    • @MrLoobu
      @MrLoobu 5 років тому +5

      Yep I knew of a guy almost died when one broke and sunk deep in his thigh almost lacerated an artery.

    • @BxCortez2050
      @BxCortez2050 5 років тому +8

      I swear watching him cut that they way he did made my cringe

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 роки тому +4

      Are you his daddy?

    • @officialWWM
      @officialWWM 4 роки тому +9

      Holy crap, no guard on the grinder, no face protection, no ear protection, no gloves and no shoes! He's lucky to be alive 😂

  • @andrewbland3441
    @andrewbland3441 4 роки тому +3

    Great video guys. Subscribed! HUGE WARNING for that rust remover -- yes its ace, but make sure you rinse it ALL OFF after, otherwise it'll eat into your components and make them permanently bleed rust (itll also mess up topcoats). Great stuff, your right, but rinse the hell out of it once your done

  • @bdjm8595
    @bdjm8595 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent episode, really enjoy the "boat work" episodes that are missing from channels that have expensive new boats!!! That is a really beautiful piece of machine work your Dad did for you Kika!! Dan, the only thing different I might have done is add some shim washers between the swivel and the anchor to keep things from being sloppy and getting jammed.

  • @wellDunn1
    @wellDunn1 6 років тому +2

    Great video guys. I really enjoy all of your videos but I especially appreciate these “DIY” explanations. Thanks!

  • @claywebb8199
    @claywebb8199 6 років тому +4

    Good vid guys....BACK ON FORM👍👍👍
    Guys just be aware when you are retrieving your anchor - as in the vid - do not drive it all the way home with the winch, stop just short. The motor has quite high torque and the strain/load on the motor shaft pin would be high. Over time ramming it home again and again and again may well cause the pin to fail. It's a common cause of motor to capstan failure.
    Oh and Dan.......WEAR SOME SAFETY GLASSES!...cutting wheels DO break and as good a look as a sailor wearing an eyepatch is it's a high price to pay to look cool. 😬😬
    👍👍👍👍

  • @flyingdutchman6984
    @flyingdutchman6984 6 років тому +3

    In over 40 years of sailing I have only cut my anchor rode once. I was being run down by a much larger vessel and had no choice except to cut my anchor free. I prefer to use a Mantus swivel as it makes it easier to change anchors than most setups.

  • @markfrick6244
    @markfrick6244 6 років тому +2

    Nice job! Ever well explained, lots of great information. Just got my first windlass so this one was right on time hoping to be in the water before fall....

  • @sailingsvtesla9052
    @sailingsvtesla9052 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for the extra view you guys. I enjoy following your journey. Keep up the great work. Have fun, be safe and KEEP ON, SAILIN ON. (cheers)

  • @SailingVoyager
    @SailingVoyager 6 років тому +3

    Great video guys! I think that swivel is a Kong. Love this format of videos

  • @SailingPauHana
    @SailingPauHana 6 років тому +6

    That was a great video. I loved the term “swivelicious” . I’m gonna coin a new term...that was an “Umalicious” video. 👍

  • @faircompetition1203
    @faircompetition1203 6 років тому

    Love that you did not cut out the hand pinch mistake , it is the reality of working on anything and a good lesson for all ..Glad to see no lasting damage .

  • @johnchristopherrobert1839
    @johnchristopherrobert1839 4 роки тому +2

    Your content is fantastic. Your use of background music really compliments the content, great work!

  • @eliaszen5244
    @eliaszen5244 4 роки тому +12

    Hi, the Italian brand is KONG produces quality products for mountaineering and sailing

  • @bobbybaldeagle702
    @bobbybaldeagle702 6 років тому +4

    Thanks again for another awesome video.... You kids always seem to amuse me thank you.... Be blessed... BBE 👍 👍🤗 🤗

  • @billroberts9182
    @billroberts9182 5 років тому +2

    I have 300 ft of chain on my sailboat, but have been able to use only 150 ft because of kinking in the chain (gets hung up in the gypsy). Your video made me realize that slightly rusted chain "castles" when retrieving the anchor- then it falls over in the chain locker which leads to twisted chain. I have a swivel on the anchor, and the gypsy will not allow the chain to be twisted when retrieving the anchor- but the castling clearly explains the source of the kinks! I need new chain or re-galvanization. Thanks!

  • @trapman2000
    @trapman2000 6 років тому +4

    Lots of good info in this vid. Much appreciated!

  • @cosmoslogic9088
    @cosmoslogic9088 3 роки тому +4

    It only takes one incident with a cutting disc to get your attention as to how dangerous they really are great advice to all who use them no joke. Long time welder here i know.

  • @misterprofessor3511
    @misterprofessor3511 6 років тому +69

    You should try some teflon washers between the roller and the bowsprit.

    • @davidsimpson7231
      @davidsimpson7231 5 років тому +3

      you might trust bring your chain down with ospho it's a pretty good rust and preventer and wash it with fresh water when you heave up if you have the water to to spare

    • @philgray1023
      @philgray1023 4 роки тому

      @@davidsimpson7231 Thanks for the tip David. I inherited a bottle of ospho with no instructions on my boat, had no idea what it was good for.

    • @MikeRthe1
      @MikeRthe1 3 роки тому

      What a waste of time

    • @michaeldemarillac9992
      @michaeldemarillac9992 3 роки тому

      @@davidsimpson7231 Even better if you spray/soak it with vinegar and then dip chain in Ospho. It works twice as good.

  • @sixwacks
    @sixwacks 3 роки тому +2

    I like how they are figuring it out as they go, looks fun and challenging

  • @CheersWarren
    @CheersWarren 6 років тому

    One point to remember your anchor chain usage is probably 50x the typical cruising boat that might only anchor a few times a year for just a night or 2 and has plenty of time to wash off their chain with fresh water when they get back to the dock. But I am defiantly glad to see you with a new chain! Prehaps you could redirect some of that extra rain water you collect into washing your chain! Great vid as usual. Cheers Warren .

  • @calvinh.8882
    @calvinh.8882 6 років тому +8

    Just a thought.. After spraying that piece of rope you use to keep the chain from going overboard with that rust remover, that rope is going to deteriorate pretty quick.. Because you removed all the oils out of it.. I know you will most likely never have to use it, but if i was you i would at least spray some oil on it for now, and replace it some day when you get a chance.. Peace!

    • @calvinh.8882
      @calvinh.8882 6 років тому +1

      Oil, or whatever they use to keep it from deteriorating so quickly.. I'm not sure what they use, but i'm betting there is some type of oil based something in most ropes.. I know for a fact that using bleach or things like that rust remover will dry rope out..

    • @MrA1582000
      @MrA1582000 6 років тому +1

      Put a serious rope on the end of the chain, one strong enough to hole the boat. Suspect that small stuff you have sprayed will not be any good.

    • @SportSoulLife
      @SportSoulLife 5 років тому

      Mary Gray Its a safety feature. We do similarly on ships (the chain is attached to the bulkhead on a weak link). If you desperately need to get off the anchor, you can drive it all the way out and then break yourself free from the chain.
      The only reason why you should attach the end of the anchor chain to something is to prevent the chain from knotting itself up.

  • @unclemuir
    @unclemuir 6 років тому +3

    Are you adding Just Cats shirts and hats to your swag shop? You are wearing swag that I have never seen Kent's cousin Brent on IMPI wearing.

  • @solarappointments2864
    @solarappointments2864 3 роки тому +1

    I LOVE the way you can still have Air Conditioning in your boat lol. Straight through the bow hatch!

  • @LadyDewBuild
    @LadyDewBuild 5 років тому

    New subscriber, just found your channel, I'm building a steel boat to retire on and see the world so finding channels like your is invaluable! Thanks for sharing! Don

  • @martyspargur5281
    @martyspargur5281 6 років тому +3

    Hey, ship anchor chains aren't galvanised, and they don't have a problem with rust! Well, for one thing, ship anchor chain is not hi test high carbon, hammered anything. They are made from iron alloys which excell in resisting destructive oxidation. The Strength of this chain plays second fiddle to corrosion resistance. That is how it should always be. For the other reason they aren't too rusty, grab that can of cosmoline, and climb down into the chain locker, and start slopping it everywhere!

  • @jalspach9215
    @jalspach9215 5 років тому +54

    Most younger folks simply haven't been around long enough working with power tools to have seen, experienced, what happens when a cut-off wheel pinch/binds and disintegrates in a blinding instant. A few years ago on a house remodel I had to remove the 4 1/2" grinder guard to fit in a tight space cutting an old beam bolt. The disc bound & shattered. A piece sliced through my thumb to the bone so fast I never saw it and felt like I had smashed it with a hammer. I later noticed small impact scratches on my safety glasses & I naturally NEVER cut/grind with my face aligned with the wheel. The scratches indicate all those spinning broken pieces explosively flew out in arcs in every direction! High speed & catastrophic failure at arms length or closer is no joke. And my bad for not wearing gloves. Stupid & careless! PPE's aren't just for geeks. And remember cruising sailors are frequently miles/days from medical help. So safety MUST be second nature and practiced. Even us old guys have our moments. Never stop learning/improving, ever. Be safe & Aloha to all here.

    • @Garryck-1
      @Garryck-1 5 років тому +2

      Amen to this!

    • @lovingatlanta
      @lovingatlanta 4 роки тому +3

      👍💯On point! Great advice!💝

    • @skr4207
      @skr4207 3 роки тому

      Happens

    • @jalspach9215
      @jalspach9215 3 роки тому +1

      @zapp1919 Good God! Appears I inadvertently trolled up some poor soul with diminished capacity. You slept through grade school comprehension? "Blame"? WTF are you smoking? I've built boats from Thailand to the Bahamas, 30 years finish foreman on 6-year long mega-million estate jobs- Forbes top 100 kind. 25 years of that I never wrote a resume. I've worked on 8 of the top most expensive homes in Hawaii to date. In that time I've fired shit-tons of sassy youngsters with attitude just like you. So fuckwit, my admonishment was directed toward non-journeyman folks, usually young, doing sketchy work outside any OSHA guidelines. A real-world warning of potential catastrophic accidents they may not be aware of. Furthermore you seem to be unaware of the more nuanced side of OSHA regs. which DO tolerate guards being removed temporarily to allow for custom jigs & myriad obtuse or otherwise impossible cuts in varying materials/situations --- as long it can be shown & proven that contingent safety measures, "reasonable effort" was made to mitigate safety concerns. But ultimately - go fuck yourself.

  • @SVImpavidus
    @SVImpavidus 6 років тому

    Amazing how little attention some folks pay to the first safety feature on a boat. Great to see you guys think a good anchor and chain are so important. The UK has some big tides, and strong currents its the first thing a skipper learns in our old stomping grounds . We are working our way south to the med and a good anchor and lots of good chain have saved us a fortune in marina fees. Never dragged, always slept sound with an oversized modern anchor and good chain with a snubber. Sail safe guys. Always good content in your vids. Ant & Cid xx

  • @Kyleinasailing
    @Kyleinasailing 6 років тому

    Good information here. I live in Germany and the quality/price ratio for nautical products is excellent. It just doesn't wash trying to save money on inferior quality nautical products as sea salt degrades everything, it's just a question of when. Arguably, your ground tackle is the most important gear on a boat. Well done.

  • @Maddie-Girl
    @Maddie-Girl 6 років тому +121

    Buy chain from Italy not China I work for a company and we make products for the oil industry all our raw materials come from North America we have tried Chinese raw materials and they are junk to many impurities

    • @jimanderson2518
      @jimanderson2518 6 років тому +3

      Sailing S/V Slipstream sounds like an idea ...so I want to buy stainless steel chain for the boat . Where are you recommending? I've priced 316 stainless at 1,890 for 250ft not sure where it was made though?

    • @MrRourk
      @MrRourk 6 років тому

      No they are not the putting in the right impurities chrome and vanadium.

    • @dprider02
      @dprider02 6 років тому +14

      Jim Anderson For whatever it's worth, I once had a 3/8" stainless steel chain snap at anchor. This was on a 50" ketch that had been seeing daily use for about 5 years as a day charter boat for a hotel down in the Carib. We only spent about 2 hours at anchor each day. My understanding is that stainless is less ductile than galvanized, and tends to get a bit brittle over time. That certainly seems to be the case in my experience, and personally I would absolutely stick with a high quality galvanized chain.

    • @coasterad
      @coasterad 6 років тому +1

      Sailing S/V Slipstream the swivel looks like it is stainless which is brittle

    • @martyspargur5281
      @martyspargur5281 6 років тому +2

      There Are types of stainless that are suitable for immersion, like 22-13-5's for example. Prop shafts and rod rigging made from similar alloys have stood the test of time. But i don't know of any anchor chain being made from these alloys, and when you think about it neither prop shafts nor rod rigging are ever welded, chain is. 316 is superior to 302/304, but i believe still subject to crevice corrosion. I have found that while BBB is best for yacht anchor chain, proof coil is an excellent choice as well. Thank you.

  • @HHJung1976
    @HHJung1976 4 роки тому +13

    Hi, nearly 2 years by now, how looks the new chain now?

  • @taxalterror
    @taxalterror 6 років тому +1

    I like your new anchor pulley, nice bit of turning. thanks for the vid. :)

  • @sfcretired1166
    @sfcretired1166 4 роки тому

    Watched several of your videos. You young people look like you're having the time of your lives! I hope so. Makes me wish I was about forty years younger (Yes, I am that old!).

  • @bud1971
    @bud1971 6 років тому +12

    Keka's Dad rocks!

  • @SailingTanker
    @SailingTanker 6 років тому +17

    Check out RAN SAILING, they recently lost their anchor while heading into Hawaii. Tie down the anchor too......

    • @Dvseire
      @Dvseire 6 років тому +1

      There is no need to tie it, because Dan just jams his hand in to keep it in place!
      :-) Oww! down down down down down! (edited out expletives) Ahhh!

    • @SailingTanker
      @SailingTanker 6 років тому

      LOL !!!

    • @thomask5295
      @thomask5295 5 років тому +2

      I have a sort of "LOCK" on my bowsprit, that sort of "locks" my anchor in place when it's fully pulled up.
      I have to go forward and pull a little string up, in order to "unlock" the anchor and have it ready to drop.
      It prevents you from losing your anchor in rough seas if the pin or the bolt on the swivel fail.
      Too bad you can't post pictures in the comment section.
      BTW: All my chain is 40mm Stainless steel. (40 ft sailboat)

    • @Garryck-1
      @Garryck-1 5 років тому

      @@thomask5295 - You *can* post links to pictures though.. upload the pic to imgur and link to it.

  • @WindedVoyage
    @WindedVoyage 3 роки тому

    My chain needs replacing and your episode confirmed it. Nice demo and explanation too. Cheers from Cape Verde Africa.

  • @garman1966
    @garman1966 6 років тому

    Good video. It also helps to have a seriously beautiful catch to warm it up!

  • @brianpetersen3429
    @brianpetersen3429 6 років тому +18

    Great video, full of good information.

  • @briansoyk7012
    @briansoyk7012 6 років тому +3

    Ha! My favorite way to learn is with a little pain! Bet that’s the last time you’re holding the anchor like that! 😉

  • @psmithrpm
    @psmithrpm 5 років тому

    Original topic and very useful, thank you for sharing.

  • @edrosenberger6947
    @edrosenberger6947 6 років тому

    Interesting information in this video.....thank you both!!

  • @MrCalifornia1234
    @MrCalifornia1234 6 років тому +9

    For some reason the whole time the anchor chain was going in your boat, I was thinking watch your hand. It was my fault. 😖

  • @kenvanportbc
    @kenvanportbc 4 роки тому +11

    That looks like a Rocna anchor. We just bought one of those and I am reading their user manual which says, "We do not recommend attaching the fork of a swivel directly to the anchor shank. It is safer to put a few links of chain between the swivel and the anchor."

    • @atozbikes
      @atozbikes 2 роки тому

      Yup, that is a basic rigging principle. They don’t care. They just know ‘high or low satndard’

  • @MrSaltlife2009
    @MrSaltlife2009 3 роки тому

    your videos are great and in this case timeless being posted in 2018. I'm installing a windlass and was looking for info on anchor chain. Thanks!!

  • @ronelitzur856
    @ronelitzur856 3 роки тому

    nice clip. amazing how good quality gear inspires confidence in the proper preformance of the ship as a whole. inspires a warm fuzzy feeling inside. swivalicious indeed.

  • @stephenjdixon1
    @stephenjdixon1 6 років тому +3

    I must have missed something as to the old and new chain detailed specifications. I would add that zinc embrittlement can lead to serious strength problems in certain galvanised chains

    • @mm5aho
      @mm5aho 4 роки тому

      When you said "zinc embrittlement" Did you mean steel embrittlement during galvanizing? This is confined to high tensile chain and only where acid cleaning is used. Zinc doesn't cause embrittlement.

    • @stephenjdixon1
      @stephenjdixon1 4 роки тому

      @@mm5aho thats what I said. Galvanising [zinc] can cause strength problems in certain chains. We call it [UK] zinc embrittlement

    • @mm5aho
      @mm5aho 4 роки тому +1

      @@stephenjdixon1 It's not galvanizing that causes or can cause embrittlement, its immersion in acid for a long time. Most galvanizing processes use acid, but there are others, and short immersion does not risk embrittlement in high tensile steels. The immersion in zinc doesn't cause embrittlement.

  • @todmills
    @todmills 6 років тому +6

    The Safety Data Sheet for Star Brite Rust Stain Remover states that it contains oxalic acid (8%) and ethylene glycol n-butyl ether (4.5%).

    • @mikeredrugger
      @mikeredrugger 5 років тому

      Wonder if I could use it for etching blades....

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella 4 роки тому

      Oxalic acid is present in many healthy food items and produced in the human body, and the other chemical is a major constituent of various whiteboard cleaners, liquid soaps, and cosmetics

  • @markstewart3551
    @markstewart3551 6 років тому

    I hate when things like that happen but I love to see quality stuff And congratulations on a well made machine piece that is awesome

  • @ratusbagus
    @ratusbagus Рік тому +1

    I have two crushed fingers (one surgically reattached) in splints and I'm a third through reconstructive surgeries and (15) months of physio therapy because I didn't roll out and ditch a fouled chain in a choppy cove at the start of June (3 months ago).
    Your threaded through line is a great "must" idea.
    If it happens to you ditch the kit and retrieve it later....or even just lose it rather than a hand.

  • @paulrehberg7215
    @paulrehberg7215 6 років тому +5

    Just curious about the stainless swivel on galvanized chain. I would be concerned about galvanic corrosion eroding the closer links.

    • @martyspargur5281
      @martyspargur5281 6 років тому

      That is not a corrosion hazard. A galvanised swivel on ss chain would be a much bigger problem.

    •  6 років тому

      I used a galvanized swivel, but a removable big link of stainless, on an all chain rode. The swivel must be MUCH bigger than the chain. Never gave any problems.

    • @martyspargur5281
      @martyspargur5281 6 років тому

      BenjaminFranklin99 that works. And galvy swivels need to be oversize whenever possible. One link of ss won't hurt a galvanised swivel. But 800 pounds of ss chain will have a destructive corrosive effect on it, "galvanically".

  • @davejames6205
    @davejames6205 5 років тому +6

    It does make a difference where your steel comes from. It's a well known fact in the industry that Chinese steel is sub standard for use in the marine environment. S. Korean steel is a cost effective option to American or European steel.
    Also, you really should have a moused shackle between the swivel and anchor. It's preventative and eliminates human error, which we are all prone to.
    I enjoyed the video!

  • @joesphbest3120
    @joesphbest3120 6 років тому +1

    You guys are great, Good sailing my friends.

  • @dstcb
    @dstcb 4 роки тому +1

    To have a home that feels alive
    That yearns for the flood of the tide
    A mare on the bit, collected up
    Craving the touch of the heel
    The helm is now your rein in hand
    The sheet your subtle spur
    The ocean is your open steppe
    Where you may wonder free
    Log and chart without a mark
    Awaiting the Captain's whim
    For now you have your tall ship
    And a star to steer her by.
    David
    I bought a 42ft sketch and a book on how to sail in March 1978 in the UK. Arrived in Barbados in December. Happy sailing.

  • @charlescain7962
    @charlescain7962 6 років тому +6

    As I always told my kids, " It'll feel better, as soon as it quits hurting".

    • @bertbigballs
      @bertbigballs 5 років тому

      I was always told "it won't hurt when the pains gone"

  • @athanoskerensky6778
    @athanoskerensky6778 6 років тому +4

    How do you guys like that rocna? I just put the 72lbs one on my boat.

    • @SailingUma
      @SailingUma  6 років тому +1

      Absolutely LOVE IT!!! Never failed us!

  • @LittleGuitarConcert
    @LittleGuitarConcert 6 років тому +2

    Great video! Your projects are always very inspiring and informative. Also really like the anchor swivel you selected. I just ordered after watching your video. It's made by Kong Anchor Swivels, Italy, for anyone interested...

  • @MachTuck
    @MachTuck 4 роки тому

    woow after 2 years! good to know how a "not the best grade" chain can deteriorate. Good video!

  • @Jakfilm
    @Jakfilm 6 років тому +5

    Is that 3/8 chain? Pretty big for that boat. Big Rocna too - 22 KG? I like that swivel better than most I have seen. Mantus makes a pretty sweet one.

    • @MrPoppasmurf79
      @MrPoppasmurf79 6 років тому +2

      Jakfilm he used it in Haiti during hurricane. Held up pretty good.

    • @johntripp2028
      @johntripp2028 6 років тому

      Looks like 5/16

    • @southjerseysound7340
      @southjerseysound7340 6 років тому

      MrPoppasmurf79 actually he used a mantis that's even bigger during the storm.

    • @hooligan6a
      @hooligan6a 6 років тому +1

      Yes, Mantus makes cheap Chinese anchors but a very good swivel.

    • @tomhermens7698
      @tomhermens7698 5 років тому

      That swivel is ok but I wouldn't trust it as A is no good when bending B is stainless strong galvanised shackle is much stronger and when bending you have the space in the shackle.
      The pin needs to be secured with some stainless wire or be welded in so it never moves.

  • @lnewbyliveca
    @lnewbyliveca 6 років тому +9

    One word, Dan knows what they are growing up in Northern BC.......gloves.....

    • @SmartLearningAI
      @SmartLearningAI 6 років тому

      Link to chain and spec please?

    • @zetetimm
      @zetetimm 5 років тому

      Nanaimo is not Northern BC...

  • @commutergirl727
    @commutergirl727 6 років тому

    Very informative, especially the swivel near the anchor.

  • @Frindleeguy
    @Frindleeguy 5 років тому +1

    Rust remover is usually just oxalic acid. Nothing too crazy. It also revitalizes uv-beaten wood (kind of). You can buy it powdered and just mix as needed. I learned this cleaning rust stains off concrete and houses for a lot of profit :)

  • @sadiqmohamed681
    @sadiqmohamed681 5 років тому +5

    A brass chain roller is very posh. I don't think I have ever seen such a thing. That new swivel is very clever. Your doing a good job with the refit.

    • @Garryck-1
      @Garryck-1 5 років тому +1

      It's bronze, not brass. Brass isn't gonna last long in a marine environment. www.cruisingworld.com/how/down-brass-tacks

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella 4 роки тому

      @@Garryck-1 I'm surprised they used bronze, because it will consume the zinc on the chain and more especially on the anchor shank where it rests on the roller. Seawater makes a conductive electrolyte to set up a zinc-copper "battery", resulting in electrolytic anodic corrosion. If it were me I'd stick will aluminium for the replacement roller, and bush it with tufnol so it stays free-running. The larger diameter where the chain contacts it will also help to prevent it from failing to rotate.

  • @johntripp2028
    @johntripp2028 6 років тому +26

    You need a real rope on the end of that chain. Attach it to a pad eye or u bolt in the locker. Yes it does have to hold the boat. You don't have your chain marked for length so if you are in deep water you could put all of it out without knowing it. Then that skinny little thread you have breaks and all of your brand new chain and anchor is gone, In the blink of an eye, Try about a hundred feet of 5/8ths rope for starters. Just think about it. Then do as you like. Then go sailing.

    • @bradpendergraft4078
      @bradpendergraft4078 6 років тому

      John Tripp
      I agree!!

    • @donaldgraham1197
      @donaldgraham1197 6 років тому +2

      Totally agree. I have lost anchor (temporarily) when there was a clutch malfunction on the windlass and the chain roared out a high speed, wrenching itself off the bitter end (that's the rope). You need at least as much rope as will let the chain fall to the seabed and take the strain off the bitter end.

    • @martyspargur5281
      @martyspargur5281 6 років тому +1

      Samson warp speed is a good choice. What if it let go in deep water? The dynamic load of the rope trying to stop 1/4 ton of chain would be somewhere north of 5 or 6 thousand pounds. I have seen it happen, no clutch or brake could stop it, the silence that follows is deafening. If the monkey's fist on the end won't fit through the hawse, and the rope is very strong, it may pop a hole in the deck. If the rope ends before the chain is out of reach, it is easier to bouy off the end by tying it to chain, than tying onto a piece of rope that is stretched tight and about to be cut. Ideal length for a bouy line is 6' less than the low tide water depth, so nobody messes with it but it's visible. Hit MOB on your gps to find it later. I have no criticism of "how" you do anything, we are All just trying to get through our lives, accidents and mistakes are part of it too. BTW the way that you weave the rope through the chain is a Legitimate "splice".

    • @lazydays7470
      @lazydays7470 6 років тому +1

      Definitely agree with all comments below, however the "rope" should be nylon, which is always used for anchor rode as it stretches, whereas dacron or line made for running rigging is designed not to stretch.

    • @commodoresixfour7478
      @commodoresixfour7478 5 років тому

      @@lazydays7470 Thanks for the description. I never realized the difference. I my just knew to never use the term rope.

  • @bradlarden
    @bradlarden 6 років тому +1

    Another quality video. Many thanks.

  • @moorhs69
    @moorhs69 5 років тому +1

    You MUST put a shackle between your anchor and the swivel or it will snap off if it gets loaded from the side, Its not about pulling the anchor up,its about preventing the swivel from shearing off when wind/current/swell puts a sudden side-load on the anchor. Swivels are not designed to handle side-loads. Don't risk your boat just to make pulling the anchor over the bow roller 1 second quicker. Connecting a swivel directly to an anchor is the most common cause of failure in an achoring system. I lived on/sailed my boat in the Caribbean for ten years and saw it happen at least a couple of times a year.

  • @why7636
    @why7636 3 роки тому +8

    I don’t own an anchor why am I watching this.

  • @AGKRex
    @AGKRex 6 років тому +10

    Rust remover that works is usually hydrochloric acid...

    • @Roucasson
      @Roucasson 6 років тому +1

      HCl is too strong... citric acid (yes, the one in lime juice) is perfect.

    • @wmragsdale
      @wmragsdale 6 років тому +1

      HCL can can be used just at a lower %. Your can also HF acid but at a super lower concentration.

    • @AGKRex
      @AGKRex 6 років тому +1

      You clearly don't have well water LOL. I use a stronger rust remover thanks to my crappy well water.

    • @FrankLadd
      @FrankLadd 6 років тому +2

      Could be oxalic acid too. Great for rust not too harmful to other things.

    • @martyspargur5281
      @martyspargur5281 6 років тому +1

      Frank Ladd oxalyic acid is exactly correct.

  • @forrestwiley9866
    @forrestwiley9866 3 роки тому +1

    Always enjoy your vids, informational and inspirational too......:)

  • @onawhim9079
    @onawhim9079 6 років тому

    Another great video, cheers guys!

  • @williammunger5617
    @williammunger5617 6 років тому +13

    there is a beach near me that you can drive on. I saw a guy dragging a chain behind his truck, found out he was "cleaning" the rust off it :-)

    • @stevenlovett8436
      @stevenlovett8436 6 років тому

      William Munger tumbling it in a drum with pebble stone sounds cheaper and less dangerous than dragging it down a beach.

    • @fishpest2039
      @fishpest2039 5 років тому +2

      we drive down a bithumen road to clean our chain, we also cook it in old sump oil, that stops the rusting

    • @wile.coyote8466
      @wile.coyote8466 5 років тому

      @@stevenlovett8436 Tumbling rusty chain in a cement mixer drum with stones also works, but wears out the mixer motor!

    • @labrat3305
      @labrat3305 4 роки тому +1

      Ouch imagine get rusty chunks in your foot whilst going a nice walk

  • @halgodwin842
    @halgodwin842 6 років тому +5

    Why not paint a red slash at 5 fathoms, 2 red slashes at 10 and so on. That way you'll know how much chain you have out at glance!

    • @unclemuir
      @unclemuir 6 років тому +4

      Did you not see the zip ties?

    • @edrussell7960
      @edrussell7960 6 років тому +3

      Most people who don't paint their chain in increments it is because the paint flakes off after a bit.

    • @MichaelBuck
      @MichaelBuck 6 років тому

      I was saying the same thing, MARK THAT CHAIN...unless they have a chain counter, which I didn't see. Although, I did see some plastic zip ties they had attached, which looked like markers of sorts, so maybe they didn't want the paint chipping off.

  • @richardwallinger1683
    @richardwallinger1683 2 роки тому

    good job nice upgrade .. love the big brass roller .. RED Loctite, that is never going to shake loose . a decent hot air gun will assist when it ever needs servicing .

  • @SailBeforeSunset
    @SailBeforeSunset 6 років тому

    One of your more informative vids! Thanks!

  • @OvertravelX
    @OvertravelX 6 років тому +7

    If the rust remover smells like the old perm chemical from the hair salon, it's ammonia thioglycolate.

    • @martyspargur5281
      @martyspargur5281 6 років тому

      acmeopinion factory ....which if atomised or sprayed is an extreme inhalation hazard.

    • @martyspargur5281
      @martyspargur5281 6 років тому

      acmeopinion factory i was so relieved when she put on a bonafide respirator. I was highlighting the danger behind spraying any acid, in liquid form it's pretty innocuous, atomised it becomes very dangerous. Thanks

    • @fmaz1952
      @fmaz1952 5 років тому

      @Siward Beorn It's a 3M mask with the gas cartridges, which are different than the dust/particle cartridges.
      She is fine.
      More than that would be a full suit, which would be ridiculously overkill.

  • @mattgaetz5548
    @mattgaetz5548 4 роки тому +3

    3:45 grinding: You shouldn't use a cutting wheel like this without a grinder cover. A friend of mine did this and the cutting wheel broke lodging a chuck of the wheel in his brain. He's fucked for life. It's no joke.

  • @ExileCinema
    @ExileCinema 6 років тому

    Very Helpful info!!!!!
    Thanks guys

  • @SailingABSea
    @SailingABSea 6 років тому

    Ouch on the hand/anchor injury. Same thing happened to me a couple of months ago when we were installing our new Mantus anchor, except that I pierced the back of my hand with a stainless bolt that was sticking out of the bottom of the pulpit. My wife Aannsha felt bad about it too as she was the windlass operator.

  • @lkm5462
    @lkm5462 6 років тому +3

    You didn’t paint or whatever for the lengths of the. Chain. Why?

    • @jamesbh101
      @jamesbh101 6 років тому

      They had zip ties marking length.

  • @garyheaton4791
    @garyheaton4791 5 років тому +16

    I have worked with chains my whole life, and I have to say that crap chain you replaced was the WORST chain I have EVER seen in my entire life!! Laugh!!!
    Good job changing it!! ;)

  • @mariospapa100
    @mariospapa100 3 роки тому

    Hello from Greece. I would like to tell you that as I am proffesional seaman (Chief Officer in ULCC Tankers) for 20 years and it is a common problem to all chains-sizes-quality of steel the rust. The only thing you can do, is to maintain chain more often by derusting it and paint it with white marine colour and every 1 year to change the ends upside down. Be aware that when you anchor, the anchor by herself don't holding you in place, only the length of the chain laying to the bottom of the sea. Have nice voyages and hope to pass from our waters one day and to join our places.

  • @Dan_C604
    @Dan_C604 5 років тому

    Hey you guys, awesome vid, fun and instructive. Safe sails and best winds ahead!

  • @Destinoffshorefishing
    @Destinoffshorefishing 6 років тому +6

    That is the best rust remover everrrrrrrrr but don’t breathe it

  • @pvdneste
    @pvdneste 6 років тому +4

    try ataching a short length of chain (perhaps 5 chainlinks) with a shackle to the anhor and then the swivel to this short piece of chain and the rest of the chain. It would solve any possible future problems of a bent swivel. Sometimes your boat swings around your anchor and thus the chain 'knots' on the anchor stock. using a few chainlinks between anchor and swivel negates any trouble.

    • @allenschmitz9644
      @allenschmitz9644 5 років тому

      void the swivel warrentie.

    • @pvdneste
      @pvdneste 5 років тому

      allen schmitz How do you mean?

  • @thejourneyofmalu3495
    @thejourneyofmalu3495 6 років тому

    Very informative, thank you. What’s the weight of your anchor? I just joined your world of sailing with the purchase of a Cabo Rico 38’ this week. So I’m soaking in all the informative vids where ever I can find them. Thanks again

  • @alexberov6428
    @alexberov6428 3 роки тому +2

    Nice video, however I believe you need a shackle between the anchor and the chain link to avoid the swivel head possibly braking under lateral force.

  • @martyspargur5281
    @martyspargur5281 6 років тому +18

    The chain is rusting because it is Hi Test. Very common mistake that people everywhere make. When you are planning to buy anchor chain, look for the "roundest" links (BBB), and the Lowest carbon content (weakest strength). There is Nothing substandard or wrong with your Hi-Test chain. It, however is the worst choice for salt water, that is if you don't count ss. There is Nothing wrong with your galvanizing, it's the carbon content of the metal that the chain itself is made of that makes it inappropriate. Think "iron" not hammered hi carboon steel. I would never recommend ss, the alloys available are still 18-8 and cannot be deprived of oxygen the way anchor chain is (under water).
    This will happen again, because it is high carbon steel.
    Thank You
    I am Not criticizing here. But the reasons for what i'm saying are simple facts.
    This problem has nothing to do with being made in China, Pakistan, or anywhere. It is either made to spec or it isn't. If it isn't, it will not make it to market.

    • @EleanorPeterson
      @EleanorPeterson 5 років тому

      Sense. Thank you.

    • @helloyou5781
      @helloyou5781 5 років тому +4

      Beat me to the punch. Sounds like someone took a metallurgy class at some point in his life.

    • @erniew5805
      @erniew5805 5 років тому +1

      salt water isn't good for stainless either

    • @FrancoisLabelle-yf8tj
      @FrancoisLabelle-yf8tj 5 років тому +1

      Hot dip galvanized very seldom use high carbon content steel since the high hardness temper is rendered mild due to 900 degrees molten zink dipping...

  • @romeowhiskey1146
    @romeowhiskey1146 6 років тому +17

    "DAD" should start SELLING those bow rollers!

    • @nomadequipment2177
      @nomadequipment2177 5 років тому

      No kidding, he'd make a fortune 🙂⛵❤

    • @JohnSwampthingRae
      @JohnSwampthingRae 4 роки тому

      @@nomadequipment2177 They would cost a fortune... looks like Aluminum-Nickel-Bronze...

    • @mariofretz
      @mariofretz 4 роки тому

      Yup looks like bronze, better than stainless, and will last for a long time, it might oxidize though unless it is another special alloy

  • @5150roc
    @5150roc 3 роки тому

    Great video guys thanks for the info.

  • @Packrat_Garage
    @Packrat_Garage 4 роки тому

    @ 8:27 - that is literally where the phrase 'cut and run' stems from. Ships and boats back to the mists of history would opt to just cut the ropes and lose a replaceable anchor and run if the ship was in danger. Just found your channel and have enjoyed many vids thus far, having dreams of getting out there 'some day' which will likely never come. Ride the wind as long as you can, for those of us who can't.

  • @donb4386
    @donb4386 6 років тому +28

    Absolutely the worst chain I have ever seen! Long overdue for replacement. Now this may just be me, and I don't want to be a net nanny, but it was scary watching your hand so close to the blade of the angle grinder. Sh*t happens in the blink of an eye and you could find yourself with a serious injury. After spending most of my career in construction (in part as a safety officer & auditor) I have seen too much. Be careful. It only takes a little more effort to be safe.

  • @tinncan
    @tinncan 6 років тому +13

    That's a bronze roller right? Brass will go to crap quickly in salt water...

    • @SailingUma
      @SailingUma  6 років тому +7

      Yup solid Bronze

    • @martyspargur5281
      @martyspargur5281 6 років тому +3

      Sailing Uma the roller that your father made is perfect. Couldnt be better.

    • @joer8854
      @joer8854 6 років тому +3

      As another channel I like would say skookum as frig. That thing is awesome.

    • @fatherturtle
      @fatherturtle 6 років тому +2

      Funny, AVE lover

    • @hookednrolling2009
      @hookednrolling2009 5 років тому +5

      Sailing Uma your dad should sell them

  • @jarodstrain8905
    @jarodstrain8905 4 роки тому +1

    That rust remover you like uses oxalic acid, which is an organic reactive compound. It takes rust off buy actually chemically breaking down the rust.
    It occurs in nature in algae and many plants. While it can be toxic to animals, it's more less harmless once dissolved into the environment.

  • @lavor100
    @lavor100 4 роки тому

    Muito bom o vídeo pois mostrar bem como cuidar da corrente.Parabéns.