The call back to Baby saying “I don’t recognize you” and now saying “I recognize you” makes me 100% believe this. That is the strongest piece of evidence
Was just thinking, Cassie's dad has to be a lot older than some might think if he truly is the Bonnie Bully. The Bite was in 1983 and Micheal was around 14ish, and assuming Cassie's Dad/the Bonnie Bully was around the same age, and going off the calendar in SB placing the game at probably 2035 at the earliest (2029 is unlikely as it is too soon), that'd place him in his mid to late 60s.
@@thepizzagamer2238 I feel like Scott really messed up by setting FNAF 3 so late. Then we have stuff happening after that. Really all these characters are incredibly old.
@@arieltallen5732 while that would be the case remember circus baby can take control and possibly override Elizabeth so she could probably review her memories and talk for Elizabeth so for sister location's case here she wouldn't recognize Michael because Elizabeth only remembers teen Michael not adult Michael so that's why when she says "you are new" it's becaue he is not only from her database but in Elizabeth's memory bank too
@@unknownweirdo_ because she's separate from Elizabeth mentally so while she has access to her memories she won't act like Elizabeth till pizza Sim when Elizabeth has better control over circus baby they are the same it's just that baby's blocking her out whether it be intentionally or unintentionally
as of right now, Cassie’s dad is the best to assume was there at sister location prior to Michael. love the theory and can’t wait for what Scott has in store for the 10 year anniversary!
“I recognize you” is honestly really big, probably all the proof I needed. Plus I feel like it’s a good connection that doesn’t break canon and makes the story more cohesive.
Ooh that “I recognize you/I don’t recognize you” was a seriously great realization. That parallel is TOO deliberate. And I don’t think she’s talking to the player, I think you’re definitely meant to remember her story about the guy who made the hiding spot. Excellent catch.
That's the very point. Steel Wool games are the mirror of Scott Cawthon games with every little thing just like movie trilogy, book trilogy but in opposite to them Steel Wool games are in the same timeline as Scott Cawthon games just happening later.
I do like the connections between Cassie's Dad/Jeremy and Sister Location, but... I think the person who was here before us was supposed to be William. When the Bidybabs say, "Is it the same person?", I think that's what Mike was referring to when he says "They thought I was YOU" in his speech. "They didn't recognize me at first, but then they thought I was YOU." William also crafted the space under the desk cause he was, well, the dude who built the bunker, he would know how to do that.
isnt "They didn't recognize me at first, but then they thought I was YOU" is about animatronics in fnaf 1? but yeah, its probably william or even some random technician, fnaf youtubers like to overcomplicated everything
@@bbgrl-l1s I don't really think inserting a character that we're learning about into the spot of a character we DON'T know about is really overcomplicating at all. If anything, its nice storytelling to have a character be a through-line, like how we theorized with Michael. Do i think this was planned back when SL released? Absolutely not. But do i think its a cool and satisfying story to set up? I do.
I'm confused how Circus Baby of all people would go from not recognizing Michael, to thinking he's William. There's also no indication (that I know of) that the Bidybabs thought the player was William. They simply wanted to know if they were dealing with the same person as before because they couldn't see him yet.
And what would William even want the space under the desk for? he had no need to hide from the funtimes because they were his creations, he was the one in control for the longest time, and the animatronics probably knew to recognize him, whereas a random technician would have been in actual danger because the bots are naturally built to work as killing machines against anyone besides Will, so anyone else in the bunker would want a safe spot to hide; also from the way they specifically say that the previous guy "Crafted" the hiding spot, it makes it sound like it was harshly built with parts scattered around the place in a moment of panic, and not an actual structure intended to be built as part of the bunker. It honestly wouldn't make sense for them to be talking about William seeing how much the game emphasizes the fact that other random technicians were in the bunker before Michael, and how most of them winded up dead, like the guy in the ducts or the ones hanging in Ballora's stage.
It may seem like it's not enough, but that last point about Baby saying "I recognize you" definitely convinced me that you're right with this one. It's so on the nose for it to be a coincidence, because it's not even a case of Steel Wool reusing Baby's lines.
Maybe Cassie’s Dad was working with Michael to a certain degree? I’m sure every kid in that group felt awful for their part in getting Crying Child bitten and killed, so once Michael discovered what William was doing and vowed to stop it, he asked his old friends for help.
Oh yeah dude, you have me convinced. I remember the “I recognize you” line and always thought it was familiar but I never made the connection! You’re a genius!
I love it when Jhon always thinks outside the box and brings up things other fnaf theorists wouldn't usually look back on for importance when crafting a theory, like when he connected the "I recognise you" and "I don't recognise you" lines from baby, that was so satisfying, this is why John Fuhnaff is GOATED! Can't wait for next weekend to see what he has cooked up for us next :D
my crackpot theory of jeremy being in the background the whole time continues bonnie bully > fnaf2 guard (not bitten) > sister location before mike > vanni mask/face cut beta tester > cassie's dad > security breach technician > help wanted 2 is all memories of his times > gives mask to cassie in ruin as the bot
Wait holy shit wasn’t Bonnie also possessed by a kid named Jeremy? I’m not saying they’re the same person because that wouldn’t make any sense but i still feel like there might be something to that
@@drewbloom_ yeah the bonnie MCI kid was named jeremy. I had a headcanon/theory that Jeremy Fitzgerald is the bonnie bro, who would go on to work for fazbear entertainment since fnaf2, and that he never got bitten. he was also the Jeremy beta tester who 'cut his face off' but im pretty sure it's the vanni mask because it never outright states it was his face technically. it refers to the 'face' as a halloween mask, and the vanni mask is shown as such in the dreadbear dlc. plus, this all loops back to fnaf 2 cause withered bonnie has his face gone. a weird coincidence. it would just be weird if we play as a guard named jeremy who gets bitten and then just... he's never come up again in the series. it feels cooler if he has a bigger role. I then assumed that maybe the help wanted fnaf6 segments are jeremy working in the fnaf6 location with mike, and who would later work as a technician for fazbear entertainment/father of cassie. candy cadet's story about someone who had a scar and came back for revenge also makes sense if jeremy had a scar from the vanni mask but returned before the events of RUIN took place. The fact the MCI bonnie kid is named jeremy is pretty interesting. in help wanted 2 we got an achievement with the bonnie poppit that says "remember jeremy" which made me wonder if MCI jeremy was like... related to fitzgerald jeremy in some way
@@EggYTPYeah you convinced me that Jeremy Fitzgerald is indeed Cassie’s dad/Bonnie bro. MCI Bonnie has always bugged me, same with MCI Fritz. Like why would Scott name two of the MCI victims after the two security guards we play as in FNAF 2? Idk, I guess it’s possible that Scott is just bad with names
It’s so funny those lines from Baby were overlooked for years now because simply we didn’t have anything to connect them back to it’s insane that with these newer games we’re literally going back to a pair of random voice lines from Sister Location and finding out these crazy connections…..jeez
I could imagine Cassie's dad worked here like as a summer job or something, realized it was super dangerous and got out, and then later tipped Micheal off about how weird his dad's place was, which *might* be pretty important, even if it doesn't change our understanding of the lore. It's more in the realm of headcanon though.
A potential problem is, who was this character intended to be when Sister Location released? If Scott was trying to tell us something, even back then, surely he wouldn't wait 7 entire years to finally introduce this person
Right. Like creating a theory of a character to fit into a line of a game that was created nearly a decade ago with lines vague enough to mean basically any engineer is kind of a reach. Like sure it might be true now, but I doubt it was made with this in mind 7 years ago.
Fun fact: On the sister location map, if you place the midnight motorist map rotate it 270 degrees and reverse it in order to continue the road from fnaf 4 minigame you can see that the grave part from midnight motorist happens to be exactly on top of the sister location elevator
Cassie's Dad working in the bunker, would also explain why the Sister Location minigames in Help Wanted 2 aren't accurate to how the game panned out. Things like the bidybabs being in Ballora's Room, Funtime Chica existing in the private room, etc.
I have a feeling Cassie’s dad has been tricked by William to go down to the bunker, heck maybe do all of Help Wanted 2. He may want revenge on him for help Michael harm the younger son of Afton.
This is fascinating! I'd love to see this as a movie adaptation, it's cool to see how much a character Baby,Balora, Cassie's Dad, etc and how the family symbolism really goes into that dark path. ooh chilling.
The prior person was supposed to be William, it's a common theme in the original 6 FNAFs that the PC (Michael) is often mistaken for William by the animatronics which is why they are hostile to him. Cassie's dad is pretty much a retcon.
This is a really good callout. I hadn't thought about Circus Baby saying "I recognise you" before and I haven't really thought about the Candy Cadet story possibly referring to Cassie's Dad's connection to the Sister Location bunker. You're right Cassie's Dad 100% has the connection to that bunker, the Vanny Ending of HW2 and the SL presence throughout HW2 makes that clear. I never really connected those dots but now that you have, I think you're correct. Another note though, I've now been thinking of "why"? How does Cassie's Dad being the Sister Location bunker survivor really add? I mean it's cool extra character I guess, any way they can add extra emphasis on a character we don't even see or hear is great for me so it doesn't really bother me for it to have been there just to for that, but it did make me at least want to consider the idea there was an extra reason for it. My mind then went to Ruin's elevator ending where Cassie walks through a corridor with SL-styled lighting and fan (maybe other decor I don't remember) then enters the elevator for it to drop and it's a cliffhanger as to what happened. It's implied in SL that Observatory 1 is Fredbear's, it's implied that Fredbear's is now Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place, so therefore it's implied that the SL bunker is under Freddy Fazbear's Mega Pizzaplex. There's a pretty good chance imo that Cassie fell into Circus Baby's Entertainment & Rental, which alone would be cool but if you add on that her father was the Survivor of that location it does add that extra connection that makes me think "they can probably do something interesting with this". Not sure, just wanted to put my thoughts on that here.
Another piece of evidence that people don't mention that could add to your theory is the second fazerblast game in HW2. Circus Baby saying "You should've known that I would find you."
This lines up too perfectly!!! Thanks for sharing this information to us, I'm going to now add this to the timeline. *... 13% now solved. 87% left to go.*
finally someone talking about the connections between sister location and the newer games!! Do you want to know what haunts me from sister location: Balloras song; all I see is an empty room, no more joy, an empty tomb. An EMPTY tomb? an empty tomb is someone who has died but dissapeard or were not found? this has bugged me for YEARS.
Tbh watching your videos helps me understand the lore of the franchise better and I think your on to something with Cassie’s dad being the person that Baby remembers from sister location
Holy mackerel John the 'I recognise you' really seals the deal on this theory. Y'all hit the nail on the head in my opinions. Big love and keep up to great theorizing ❤️❤️
Do you think that lefty could be a refurbished carnie? This is a very long shot, im talkin 100 yard football kick, but it's just some fun thoughts that could conjure up something in the community. If you look at burnt carnie's model, you can just barely see that his right eye is more withered. You may have to squint. But say that at that time his right eye got replaced because it was the most damaged of the two, after decades of collecting dust and rotting away, the untouched eye could have decayed to the point of becoming black. As Henry repared carnie to become lefty, the original eye may have stayed or been replaced with a new black eye for a unique touch. A more realistic approach could be the lefty's design is INSPIRED by his burnt orginal. The eye rotted eye i just mentioned could have inspired the black eye detail. One specific character of that I think could drive home this theory is the color. Burnt carnie is a muted brown with white char accents. But if you were to scrape all of burnt plastic off, you be left with a black tarnished metal. Notice that lefty is not solid black, but a metalic, gun metal black. I think it is possibe that lefty is either a repaired version of carnie, with it's new design based on the chared scraps of the original, or lefty was a completely different animatronic who's build was inspired by the remains of his counterpart. By the location of Fazer Blast and hint we see, I think that carnie was most likely a part of Fall Fest(most likely the 1970 event) if so, do you think it's possible that carnie was one of Henry's first animatronics. That was a whole decade before our first look at fredbears. Whether or not Fredbear's opened before 1983. I highly doubt that it was an establishment before 1970. I noticed that there is no sign of Freddy’s or Fredbear's on the poster. Which leads me to believe that this fall fest may have predated everything. The running theory is that the mediocre melodies were his first animatronics, made to rip off Freddy’s fame. But being that we see an animatronic a decade before that, that closely resembles one of his final animatronics. It really seems that carnie could be his first. Here's some food for thought. Henry has been deemed a copycat in the early timeline for the mediocre melodies. But if he made his first BEAR animatronic at a children's theme event in 1970, is he really the copycat? If William stole the idea and made Fredbear's, and Fredbear's became as big as it did. No one would bat an eye at a small carnival with a simple bear animatronic. I don't know if I like this idea, but I'm just throwing everything I got to see what sticks. Is it possible that William set the carnival on fire to one, preventing it from becoming more successful. And two, to take that idea and reuse it for himself. I don't think he was pure evil at this point, or really evil at all. But it's still just a thought. I don't really think that lefty is a remade carnie. I think it's possible that the design could have been inspired by the withered design. But I doubt that they put that much thought into a connection like that. I am pretty confident, though, that carnie was most likely the first and that Henry was never really the copycat. But more so, tried to reclaim the ideas stolen from him later on after William's fame.
Help wanted 2 seems like an archive of "Jeremy's" Memories, we possibly see earlier timeline events from his pov, and we see more current events, lefty coming from carnie would make sense. I feel like theres something to figure out about lefty still though, the shushing and the voice, who is it if not charlotte? Is it Cassidy? Do we even believe in cassidy anymore 😭
Lefty may just be Carnie. The bear was just a repurposed animatronic made to catch the Puppet. Would also explain the black fur, it's not fur it's the charred remains of the original
I've seen comments like "tHeY uAEd ThE SAm moDEl beCAuSe tHey ARe lAZy. tHis iS wHy SW sHOuLd noT tAke oVER tHe fNaF" but I can say, that's not very very VERY ture.
This is almost certainly true because the carnival that carnie is in is supposed to be way back in the 70's. Henry for sure took carnie and turned it into lefty.
This is very intriguing and it made me remember in FNAF 6 at the end when Henry says, " And my brave volunteer. Who somehow found this job listing not intended for you." Then who was it intended for? Maybe the person who was there before.. I could see it being Cassidy's dad but the big question is why? I know hes an employee but that wouldnt explain why he would be in that part of of the building since everything in sister location was supposed to be automatic and work without a human. Great theory!
It must be a cipher, don't know which one specifically, but here each letter on the screen is actually the letter that's 7 places before that presented on screen So u-7 would be n (o p q r s t u) L-7 is e (f g h i j k l) etc.
Ok but. Top tier theory. It's a narrative that could totally be possible and it lines up so well with all the evidence you've put up. I remember how all of us were going bonkers at the hand unit speech at the help wanted 2 trailer and then we all forgot about it, but it makes so much sense tying it to Cassie's dad involvement in sister location. Kudos John
i am super here for this actually!! theres a lot of good evidence and it ties up that "who was there before mike" loose thread that i had somehow completely forgotten about hahaha. I love a good bit of interconnectedness.
Another little thing that adds to the theory more of a story element Is that William would want hire him to basically to get revenge for the bite of 83 knowing that he would be a major danger and it would be ironic that he would have died to an animatronic character just like the crying child.
I’ve always placed that as being Willam because, he’s definitely been down there and they distinctly say they think it’s a guy who’s gotten out and probably looks like Mike if their questioning if it’s the same person and they think it’s William as they game goes on anyway.
There are so many open ended and unresolved plots haphazardly strewn about this series that I didn't even know this was one. And you made such a clear case for it, I find it hard to believe it's not the case, awesome! Also any thoughts on the theory by Duel Process Theory> that includes crying child's name being revealed way back? It's super compelling and uproots a long standing assumption in the fandom.
I agree 100% with the theory, I think it makes a lot of sense from numerous points of view and lines up with many things. The obly question left in my mind is "so what?" "why does this matter?" "woukd they really put that much effort and detail just for a nugget of inconsequential information?" and things like that. Great theory though!
First🎉🎉 there's also the fact that in the books some woman's house is built on top of sister location or so,etching and someone was down there or got stuck there, can't fully remember
I don't think Cassies dad is Bonnie bully, at this point I'm fully convinced that people are being gathered who share traits/look like people from the past, its a mass recreation with people. It's telling us that princess quest ending is putting things together that has happened before
I love how well this theory fits with all the new lore that we've been getting since Steelwool took over FNAF and I do think that you nailed it! The only problem I can see is that when Sister Location came out Bonnie Bro was just a random background character with zero relevance to the story. I can't imagine Scott already planning all of this so far back in advance. So yes, it's totally possible that the modern lore has retconned this detail to retroactively fit with Cassie's dad's story, but what was Scott's original intention when he made Sister Location? That's still up in the air...
You draw very compelling conclusions and I really love your theories. You approach things more from a narrative mindset than a purely factual one like game theory. You have a lot of great evidence that I don't see any other theorists mention while GT is always getting hooked up on all the minor details.
I am very hopeful that we will get what happened to all of Michael's old "friends" who are connected to a specific animatronic and what their stories will be as adults(if they all even made it to adulthood).
My only minor critique; Cassidy’s dad wasn’t even a twinkle in Scott’s eye when he made sister location- who do you think the person before you was supposed to be originally?
I actually agree with this theory because none of us have noticed that detail- unless security breach was like made in the 2010’s or 2000’s because if the bite happened in 1983 while Cassie’s dad is a teen and he grew up older but in (2040?) that will make him old and it won’t make sense how how Cassie is still a child, because she would’ve been an adult at some point. And I have a theory not related to this video but I hope anyone reads it Theory A#: this maybe not enough proof for it but I’ll give it a try. Now remember in fnaf 3 mini game the happiest day? Or where the dead children celebrate the crying child’s birthday? (Not Cassidy cause she decided to trap William in his own hell but c.c wanted to rest) but if you focused on the detail where we pass by children who are alive and celebrating their birthday there are two specific masks that we see in and thought it was either one of or two of the mediocre melody animatronics but that didn’t seem to fit enough for it so I assumed it was maybe roxy and Monty since the two colors kinda resembles them bit. (Now this is a made up story so please do not assume it is real or argue with that theory) so back then when Henry and William used to work together building freddy and his friends (during the time where fredbear diner existed but wasn’t fully constructed) they had tried to focus on what to choose characters to go along with Freddy and chica, William suggested maybe a wolf and a gator but that didn’t approve well with Henry since he finds it less relatable instead he thought of a bunny and a pirate fox which that idea seemed to work well. Now years later after fazbear entertainment was building the mega pizzaplex mall one of the heads (who used to work with Henry) has scattered around some old blueprints or drawing concepts and he found two old drawings from Henry’s work it goes by the wolf roxy and the second monty the gator, they managed to fully finish Roxy but monty was a late to be finished and so his gator golf. In the aftermath of bonnie being missing they decided to have monty being part of the band. (Yeeeeah not a good one but I guess I tried but like this one since it can fit well in the fnaf plot eh we’ll just find out later how and who was responsible of Bonnie’s absence) Now theory B#: after the bite of 83 I assume Micheal was arrested for killing his own brother and so his friends but the three them scattered away running from the police. Cassie’s dad if I assume has ran to sister location to hide there until the commotion is over but unaware how sister location is dangerously bad and the horrors he’ll face now the other lines don’t seem fit expect for baby in this video, I’ll focus on with Freddy since he makes an accurate line “ well hello again, are you ready for round two?” “knock knock anybody home?” Now the first line kinda supports this theory fuhnaff and I agree! I assume the Funtime animatronics has met Cassie’s dad once and some may remember him and some not. But maybe they do remember him but rather not interested to talk about. But what I can say some have met cassie’s dad but some don’t either were under construction or locked away. Now that’s all I wanna share and please do not argue in the comments lol we can all gather informations and piece it up together like a puzzle pieces and it doesn’t matter who’s theory is right or wrong, in the end we all find out with each theories pieced and supported we’ll find the big mystery until the big reveal. Now bread a day keeps the horrors away 🍞
I really like this interpretation of the candy cadet code. I’ve not been super convinced by interpretations saying it’s Cassie or Vanessa, but it being Cassie’s dad is super satisfying.
There were two bombshells (3:59, 5:36) that made me shudder and laugh from the connections you drew, and you absolutely earned that "Ultimate Need More Proof."
Man, 8 years already. Man, I feel old and I’m not even in college yet. 😅 Honestly, I think Scott and the company are *intentionally* trying to make Cassie’s dad the central point here. The “map bot ending” of HP2 sold it for me.
This is actually my first comment on any theory video and its probabbly not going to get noticed. But what if the time he went into the bunker and made that hiding place was the second time, since it said he went in with more experience, maybe he was there but with someone else (seeing everything that happaned but couldnt do anything about it) and when he got out and older knowing what to do, he went back in and made that hiding place and such, but sadly didnt make it, and thats why he is missing now,
I really like watching your videos and you’re very good at presenting information and making an explanation. The only problem I have with this video is you keep talking about how Scott is trying to hint at something we all missed about sister location but the problem is you never actually said anything substantial that could be considered a theory as to what that could be. It just feels like you’re talking about details about sister location that could potentially be used to add extra context to what we already know
I don't like this theory very much because it assumes that "the previous technician" had some meaning back in 2016, when Scott created Sister Location. What was this meaning? Why was Circus Baby talking so special about him? As for now, this video sounds as if this guy was "a teaser to Help Wanted 2", and this feels absurd. There is a point in giving more story to already established characters, but you'd have to explain what was previously established. As for now, there's nothing. But I don't really agree that the technician survived. He survived Bidybabs, but "this scenario" is the power outage - he had to go through Ballora Gallery. Baby knows that "if you trust HandUnit, you will die". How does she know that? What happened during the previous power outage? We can't be sure that the technician survived all of that.
How do you keep doing this? You have a way of finding little details that people just haven’t really considered, and then not only do you turn them into good theories, you turn them into *REALLY SOLID THEORIES.* Not only are they believable, but they make a lot of sense! You almost make it look easy, and you never fail to impress. Solid snack worthy videos. Keep up your incredible work 👌
Before I get into the rest of the video, I do want to mention a few things: - We do not know if the one that hid behind the "bidybab wall" actually survived SL - The person that hid behind the wall is not necessarily a majorly relevant character But I'm interested to see where this goes. Okay, it's obviously Cassie's dad you were suggesting. Right, so: - There is a clear gap between the modern FE and the past FE. If he's an engineer there now, that doesnt mean he was one at the old FE. His authority there has nothing to do with what he might have done in SL. - Voice lines are genuinely just reused for no reason in both HW1 and HW2. There was no need to get more Bidybab lines than necessary, so they just reused them - The fazwrench and faz-conduit are branded after Glamrock Freddy, a character that didnt exist at the time of SL. They were not actually there. - The Bidybabs were used because they are easy "pawn enemies" that you can just scatter accross the map without needing to worry about space or them being too visible/stealing the main enemy's spot. - While the "I recognize you" line is genuinely fascinating, one needs to keep in mind that the actual Circus Baby is not there. It's a digital creature created by Glitchtrap. While the implications might still ring true, it could just be that Glitchtrap recognizes him. - I doubt the "memory dolls" represent Cassies Dad's memories. As they are linked directly to Glitchtrap, I think they are what he is tied to. Memories of the past, forming a recreation of Afton, who can only be defeated when those memories are put to rest. Still, very interesting video!
The call back to Baby saying “I don’t recognize you” and now saying “I recognize you” makes me 100% believe this. That is the strongest piece of evidence
Uh how am I the only comment of a 870 like comment
@@twoface1192 omg I didn’t even notice that I have that many likes GoDAMN💀
@@RubySkullYTis that the comment of 87?!?
@@Mr_Least._ OH MY GOD
True. Im kinda surprised because I dont think Game Theory never once mentioned this? Or did I miss it?
"I recognize you" is the BIGGEST hint they gave us and I overlooked it damn👀
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bruh
Imagine Cassie's dad growing up and finding out what his friend's dad was up to this whole time. What... the... F.
“I mean, his dad always seemed a little weird, but jeez!” - Cassie’s dad probably.
@@madamplatypus313 "I've heard of family drama, but this is ridiculous! :D"
@@mr_h831Damn…😟
Was just thinking, Cassie's dad has to be a lot older than some might think if he truly is the Bonnie Bully.
The Bite was in 1983 and Micheal was around 14ish, and assuming Cassie's Dad/the Bonnie Bully was around the same age, and going off the calendar in SB placing the game at probably 2035 at the earliest (2029 is unlikely as it is too soon), that'd place him in his mid to late 60s.
@@thepizzagamer2238 I feel like Scott really messed up by setting FNAF 3 so late. Then we have stuff happening after that. Really all these characters are incredibly old.
5:10 “The ULTIMATE ‘Need More Proof?’ Is THIS”
*ad plays*
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It happened to me too.
LMAO SAME XD
Yeah!
Same
The "I recognize you" line could also be Elizabeth saying "hey I remember you from all those years ago from my brother's gang of delinquents"
If that’s the case she would have also said I recognize you in sister location.
@@arieltallen5732 while that would be the case remember circus baby can take control and possibly override Elizabeth so she could probably review her memories and talk for Elizabeth so for sister location's case here she wouldn't recognize Michael because Elizabeth only remembers teen Michael not adult Michael so that's why when she says "you are new" it's becaue he is not only from her database but in Elizabeth's memory bank too
@@arieltallen5732Baby didn't believe she was Elizabeth during sister location
@@unknownweirdo_ because she's separate from Elizabeth mentally so while she has access to her memories she won't act like Elizabeth till pizza Sim when Elizabeth has better control over circus baby they are the same it's just that baby's blocking her out whether it be intentionally or unintentionally
@@arieltallen5732 No, she wouldn't?? You play as Michael in Sister Location. Why would she say that to Michael if it's Cassie's dad she recognizes?
The code at the end says “next weekend… be ready” btw John you cooked once again
W WELL DONE THAT WAS QUICK
Did I miss the cipher?
Thank you!
How did you get this?
@@this_guy0341 a +7 shift cipher, i think
as of right now, Cassie’s dad is the best to assume was there at sister location prior to Michael. love the theory and can’t wait for what Scott has in store for the 10 year anniversary!
You starting this video with "8 years ago" physically hurt me to hear wow. I can't believe it was already that long ago.
I still remember reacting to teasers of the game.
@@Brydav_Massbearme too man, i used to be terrified of the one with the bidybabs and when you brighten it you’d see Baby’s face 💀
I was 12...back in 2016. It hurts
I can already see GTLive cheering with "Need more proof"
My thoughts exactly
Then there was the second one too!
I mean didn't Matpat already came to the same conclusions, when they played it?
The fact it took 8 years to solve with a solid proof sounding theory shows how deep this franchise is.
thats because it took 8 years for a follow up retcon to come out, how else was it gonna get solved
If it takes 8 years for one big clue to be released, that's how long it'd probably take to solve
"deep" you mean intentionally complicated and unspeciifc
Damn I cant wait till 2031 for us to finally find out with a high 70% confirmation that Montey actually has the soul of the Pizzaria Sim Narrator 😊
Is it deep or convoluted
Your theories are on another level, you're so good at this. I love them.
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Cassie’s dad really is just the main character of FNAF now, it seems like each of the bully’s are gonna be main characters💀
“I recognize you” is honestly really big, probably all the proof I needed. Plus I feel like it’s a good connection that doesn’t break canon and makes the story more cohesive.
A top tier theory, especially connecting the "I (don't) recognise you" lines. Feels pretty dam solid, intrigued to hear Matt's take on this too
who's gonna tell bro
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@@cyberneticperson9343 LEGIT I WAS GONNA SAY.. he cant help you with this one 😬
Someone’s got to be the one to tell bro 😭
Are yall talking about matts retirement because if so he still does gtlive he just doesnt do the other four channels
Ooh that “I recognize you/I don’t recognize you” was a seriously great realization. That parallel is TOO deliberate. And I don’t think she’s talking to the player, I think you’re definitely meant to remember her story about the guy who made the hiding spot. Excellent catch.
Bonny Bro / Cassie's Dad is becoming the new Michael Afton at this point.
lol
that probably what steel woods wants????
at this point the fanbase will accept ANY new antagonist just as long as afton finally does NOT come back this time. lol
That's the very point. Steel Wool games are the mirror of Scott Cawthon games with every little thing just like movie trilogy, book trilogy but in opposite to them Steel Wool games are in the same timeline as Scott Cawthon games just happening later.
who the hell is Bonny
I do like the connections between Cassie's Dad/Jeremy and Sister Location, but... I think the person who was here before us was supposed to be William. When the Bidybabs say, "Is it the same person?", I think that's what Mike was referring to when he says "They thought I was YOU" in his speech. "They didn't recognize me at first, but then they thought I was YOU." William also crafted the space under the desk cause he was, well, the dude who built the bunker, he would know how to do that.
isnt "They didn't recognize me at first, but then they thought I was YOU" is about animatronics in fnaf 1? but yeah, its probably william or even some random technician, fnaf youtubers like to overcomplicated everything
@@bbgrl-l1s I don't really think inserting a character that we're learning about into the spot of a character we DON'T know about is really overcomplicating at all. If anything, its nice storytelling to have a character be a through-line, like how we theorized with Michael. Do i think this was planned back when SL released? Absolutely not. But do i think its a cool and satisfying story to set up? I do.
I'm confused how Circus Baby of all people would go from not recognizing Michael, to thinking he's William. There's also no indication (that I know of) that the Bidybabs thought the player was William. They simply wanted to know if they were dealing with the same person as before because they couldn't see him yet.
You could argue it was even Henry
And what would William even want the space under the desk for? he had no need to hide from the funtimes because they were his creations, he was the one in control for the longest time, and the animatronics probably knew to recognize him, whereas a random technician would have been in actual danger because the bots are naturally built to work as killing machines against anyone besides Will, so anyone else in the bunker would want a safe spot to hide; also from the way they specifically say that the previous guy "Crafted" the hiding spot, it makes it sound like it was harshly built with parts scattered around the place in a moment of panic, and not an actual structure intended to be built as part of the bunker.
It honestly wouldn't make sense for them to be talking about William seeing how much the game emphasizes the fact that other random technicians were in the bunker before Michael, and how most of them winded up dead, like the guy in the ducts or the ones hanging in Ballora's stage.
i had just sat down to study THANK GOD you dropped this now i have something more productive to do
I see you, too, are a master at the art of procrastination?
greetings my people!
0:01 bro did you just say 8 years ago? WTF its already been 8 years?!
I must be tweaking
8???? Fml
Actually it's been 9
10 in just a month lol
This coming August it'll be 10 years ago!!
It may seem like it's not enough, but that last point about Baby saying "I recognize you" definitely convinced me that you're right with this one. It's so on the nose for it to be a coincidence, because it's not even a case of Steel Wool reusing Baby's lines.
Maybe Cassie’s Dad was working with Michael to a certain degree? I’m sure every kid in that group felt awful for their part in getting Crying Child bitten and killed, so once Michael discovered what William was doing and vowed to stop it, he asked his old friends for help.
So it means we will have 2 more Michael friends involved in the future maybe?
there was even a theory that freddy mask is oswalds dad too! maybe if theres another game we can see chica mask
Oh yeah dude, you have me convinced. I remember the “I recognize you” line and always thought it was familiar but I never made the connection! You’re a genius!
I love it when Jhon always thinks outside the box and brings up things other fnaf theorists wouldn't usually look back on for importance when crafting a theory, like when he connected the "I recognise you" and "I don't recognise you" lines from baby, that was so satisfying, this is why John Fuhnaff is GOATED!
Can't wait for next weekend to see what he has cooked up for us next :D
my crackpot theory of jeremy being in the background the whole time continues
bonnie bully > fnaf2 guard (not bitten) > sister location before mike > vanni mask/face cut beta tester > cassie's dad > security breach technician > help wanted 2 is all memories of his times > gives mask to cassie in ruin as the bot
wait you might be cooking
Wait holy shit wasn’t Bonnie also possessed by a kid named Jeremy? I’m not saying they’re the same person because that wouldn’t make any sense but i still feel like there might be something to that
@@drewbloom_ at this point im willing to bet sure why not
@@drewbloom_ yeah the bonnie MCI kid was named jeremy.
I had a headcanon/theory that Jeremy Fitzgerald is the bonnie bro, who would go on to work for fazbear entertainment since fnaf2, and that he never got bitten.
he was also the Jeremy beta tester who 'cut his face off' but im pretty sure it's the vanni mask because it never outright states it was his face technically. it refers to the 'face' as a halloween mask, and the vanni mask is shown as such in the dreadbear dlc. plus, this all loops back to fnaf 2 cause withered bonnie has his face gone. a weird coincidence.
it would just be weird if we play as a guard named jeremy who gets bitten and then just... he's never come up again in the series. it feels cooler if he has a bigger role.
I then assumed that maybe the help wanted fnaf6 segments are jeremy working in the fnaf6 location with mike, and who would later work as a technician for fazbear entertainment/father of cassie.
candy cadet's story about someone who had a scar and came back for revenge also makes sense if jeremy had a scar from the vanni mask but returned before the events of RUIN took place.
The fact the MCI bonnie kid is named jeremy is pretty interesting. in help wanted 2 we got an achievement with the bonnie poppit that says "remember jeremy" which made me wonder if MCI jeremy was like... related to fitzgerald jeremy in some way
@@EggYTPYeah you convinced me that Jeremy Fitzgerald is indeed Cassie’s dad/Bonnie bro.
MCI Bonnie has always bugged me, same with MCI Fritz. Like why would Scott name two of the MCI victims after the two security guards we play as in FNAF 2? Idk, I guess it’s possible that Scott is just bad with names
8:20 “next weekend... be ready” BELIEVE ME I WILL MISTER FUHNAFF AHHHHH
It’s so funny those lines from Baby were overlooked for years now because simply we didn’t have anything to connect them back to it’s insane that with these newer games we’re literally going back to a pair of random voice lines from Sister Location and finding out these crazy connections…..jeez
When you hit me with the “baby says I recognize you” that’s where I was full convinced and had to leave my room to go tell my sibling LMAO
I could imagine Cassie's dad worked here like as a summer job or something, realized it was super dangerous and got out, and then later tipped Micheal off about how weird his dad's place was, which *might* be pretty important, even if it doesn't change our understanding of the lore. It's more in the realm of headcanon though.
A potential problem is, who was this character intended to be when Sister Location released? If Scott was trying to tell us something, even back then, surely he wouldn't wait 7 entire years to finally introduce this person
Right. Like creating a theory of a character to fit into a line of a game that was created nearly a decade ago with lines vague enough to mean basically any engineer is kind of a reach. Like sure it might be true now, but I doubt it was made with this in mind 7 years ago.
Fun fact: On the sister location map, if you place the midnight motorist map rotate it 270 degrees and reverse it in order to continue the road from fnaf 4 minigame you can see that the grave part from midnight motorist happens to be exactly on top of the sister location elevator
Cassie's Dad working in the bunker, would also explain why the Sister Location minigames in Help Wanted 2 aren't accurate to how the game panned out.
Things like the bidybabs being in Ballora's Room, Funtime Chica existing in the private room, etc.
Not going to lie, I was completely unconvinced until the "i recognize you" call out. You have me on board
this makes me so happy to see, that speech has alway messed with me. It’s so oddly specific but i felt like no one ever talked about it
I have a feeling Cassie’s dad has been tricked by William to go down to the bunker, heck maybe do all of Help Wanted 2. He may want revenge on him for help Michael harm the younger son of Afton.
This is fascinating! I'd love to see this as a movie adaptation, it's cool to see how much a character Baby,Balora, Cassie's Dad, etc and how the family symbolism really goes into that dark path. ooh chilling.
The prior person was supposed to be William, it's a common theme in the original 6 FNAFs that the PC (Michael) is often mistaken for William by the animatronics which is why they are hostile to him.
Cassie's dad is pretty much a retcon.
"The prior person was supposed to be William"
source: the community believed that for a long time so it must be true
This is a really good callout.
I hadn't thought about Circus Baby saying "I recognise you" before and I haven't really thought about the Candy Cadet story possibly referring to Cassie's Dad's connection to the Sister Location bunker.
You're right Cassie's Dad 100% has the connection to that bunker, the Vanny Ending of HW2 and the SL presence throughout HW2 makes that clear.
I never really connected those dots but now that you have, I think you're correct.
Another note though, I've now been thinking of "why"? How does Cassie's Dad being the Sister Location bunker survivor really add? I mean it's cool extra character I guess, any way they can add extra emphasis on a character we don't even see or hear is great for me so it doesn't really bother me for it to have been there just to for that, but it did make me at least want to consider the idea there was an extra reason for it.
My mind then went to Ruin's elevator ending where Cassie walks through a corridor with SL-styled lighting and fan (maybe other decor I don't remember) then enters the elevator for it to drop and it's a cliffhanger as to what happened.
It's implied in SL that Observatory 1 is Fredbear's, it's implied that Fredbear's is now Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place, so therefore it's implied that the SL bunker is under Freddy Fazbear's Mega Pizzaplex.
There's a pretty good chance imo that Cassie fell into Circus Baby's Entertainment & Rental, which alone would be cool but if you add on that her father was the Survivor of that location it does add that extra connection that makes me think "they can probably do something interesting with this".
Not sure, just wanted to put my thoughts on that here.
Another piece of evidence that people don't mention that could add to your theory is the second fazerblast game in HW2. Circus Baby saying "You should've known that I would find you."
This lines up too perfectly!!! Thanks for sharing this information to us, I'm going to now add this to the timeline.
*... 13% now solved. 87% left to go.*
finally someone talking about the connections between sister location and the newer games!! Do you want to know what haunts me from sister location:
Balloras song; all I see is an empty room, no more joy, an empty tomb.
An EMPTY tomb? an empty tomb is someone who has died but dissapeard or were not found? this has bugged me for YEARS.
I LOVE WHEN JOHN TALKS ABOUT SISTER LOCATION!! :)
Tbh watching your videos helps me understand the lore of the franchise better and I think your on to something with Cassie’s dad being the person that Baby remembers from sister location
Holy mackerel John the 'I recognise you' really seals the deal on this theory. Y'all hit the nail on the head in my opinions. Big love and keep up to great theorizing ❤️❤️
I swear I remember a secret where Ballora Gallery was open on night 3, but I’ve never seen it online
Which secret is that?
The blue screen code section thing or?..
@@s.k_animations4978 no, not the blue screen
Or maybe it is, idk, I didn’t go in, and I could never replicate the secret
Do you think that lefty could be a refurbished carnie? This is a very long shot, im talkin 100 yard football kick, but it's just some fun thoughts that could conjure up something in the community.
If you look at burnt carnie's model, you can just barely see that his right eye is more withered. You may have to squint. But say that at that time his right eye got replaced because it was the most damaged of the two, after decades of collecting dust and rotting away, the untouched eye could have decayed to the point of becoming black. As Henry repared carnie to become lefty, the original eye may have stayed or been replaced with a new black eye for a unique touch.
A more realistic approach could be the lefty's design is INSPIRED by his burnt orginal. The eye rotted eye i just mentioned could have inspired the black eye detail.
One specific character of that I think could drive home this theory is the color. Burnt carnie is a muted brown with white char accents. But if you were to scrape all of burnt plastic off, you be left with a black tarnished metal. Notice that lefty is not solid black, but a metalic, gun metal black.
I think it is possibe that lefty is either a repaired version of carnie, with it's new design based on the chared scraps of the original, or lefty was a completely different animatronic who's build was inspired by the remains of his counterpart.
By the location of Fazer Blast and hint we see, I think that carnie was most likely a part of Fall Fest(most likely the 1970 event) if so, do you think it's possible that carnie was one of Henry's first animatronics. That was a whole decade before our first look at fredbears.
Whether or not Fredbear's opened before 1983. I highly doubt that it was an establishment before 1970. I noticed that there is no sign of Freddy’s or Fredbear's on the poster. Which leads me to believe that this fall fest may have predated everything.
The running theory is that the mediocre melodies were his first animatronics, made to rip off Freddy’s fame. But being that we see an animatronic a decade before that, that closely resembles one of his final animatronics. It really seems that carnie could be his first.
Here's some food for thought. Henry has been deemed a copycat in the early timeline for the mediocre melodies. But if he made his first BEAR animatronic at a children's theme event in 1970, is he really the copycat? If William stole the idea and made Fredbear's, and Fredbear's became as big as it did. No one would bat an eye at a small carnival with a simple bear animatronic.
I don't know if I like this idea, but I'm just throwing everything I got to see what sticks. Is it possible that William set the carnival on fire to one, preventing it from becoming more successful. And two, to take that idea and reuse it for himself. I don't think he was pure evil at this point, or really evil at all. But it's still just a thought.
I don't really think that lefty is a remade carnie. I think it's possible that the design could have been inspired by the withered design. But I doubt that they put that much thought into a connection like that.
I am pretty confident, though, that carnie was most likely the first and that Henry was never really the copycat. But more so, tried to reclaim the ideas stolen from him later on after William's fame.
Help wanted 2 seems like an archive of "Jeremy's" Memories, we possibly see earlier timeline events from his pov, and we see more current events, lefty coming from carnie would make sense. I feel like theres something to figure out about lefty still though, the shushing and the voice, who is it if not charlotte? Is it Cassidy? Do we even believe in cassidy anymore 😭
Lefty may just be Carnie. The bear was just a repurposed animatronic made to catch the Puppet. Would also explain the black fur, it's not fur it's the charred remains of the original
I've seen comments like "tHeY uAEd ThE SAm moDEl beCAuSe tHey ARe lAZy. tHis iS wHy SW sHOuLd noT tAke oVER tHe fNaF" but I can say, that's not very very VERY ture.
This is almost certainly true because the carnival that carnie is in is supposed to be way back in the 70's. Henry for sure took carnie and turned it into lefty.
The code at the end says "Next weekend... Be ready"
W THAT WAS QUICK LMAO
4:02 NEED MORE PROOF YASSSSSSSSS
Didn't expect myself to stumble upon a new Fnaf video today but I kinda appreciate it 😊😊.
You know it makes me happy knowing that my favorite character (Bonnie) is represented in some way with Cassie's Dad
This is very intriguing and it made me remember in FNAF 6 at the end when Henry says, " And my brave volunteer. Who somehow found this job listing not intended for you." Then who was it intended for? Maybe the person who was there before..
I could see it being Cassidy's dad but the big question is why? I know hes an employee but that wouldnt explain why he would be in that part of of the building since everything in sister location was supposed to be automatic and work without a human.
Great theory!
This is the ONLY fnaf theory channel worth following just because dude doesn't rush videos out, he actually takes his time until he's confident.
I enjoy "ID Fantasy'" fnaf stuff and game theory is always a fun classic
I got chills during this, This may be the hardest cooking I've seen from this fandom this year
WHATS WITH THE SCRAMBLED WORDS AT THE END JOHN?!?!? 8:20 ?!
IM GLAD IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED
I noticed them aswell!!
It says "Next weekend be ready"
@@gabebasaraba3998how do you know
It must be a cipher, don't know which one specifically, but here each letter on the screen is actually the letter that's 7 places before that presented on screen
So u-7 would be n (o p q r s t u)
L-7 is e (f g h i j k l) etc.
Ok but. Top tier theory. It's a narrative that could totally be possible and it lines up so well with all the evidence you've put up. I remember how all of us were going bonkers at the hand unit speech at the help wanted 2 trailer and then we all forgot about it, but it makes so much sense tying it to Cassie's dad involvement in sister location. Kudos John
Fnaf SL was 8 years ago?
*starts turning old*
i am super here for this actually!! theres a lot of good evidence and it ties up that "who was there before mike" loose thread that i had somehow completely forgotten about hahaha. I love a good bit of interconnectedness.
holy crap I saw this in my recommended 26 seconds after it was uploaded
Another little thing that adds to the theory more of a story element
Is that William would want hire him to basically to get revenge for the bite of 83 knowing that he would be a major danger and it would be ironic that he would have died to an animatronic character just like the crying child.
I’ve always placed that as being Willam because, he’s definitely been down there and they distinctly say they think it’s a guy who’s gotten out and probably looks like Mike if their questioning if it’s the same person and they think it’s William as they game goes on anyway.
8 WHOLE YEARS 😭 honestly I fully think this theory is correct, great video btw!
Yknow when FuhNaff posts a theory video your minds about to be a blown
There are so many open ended and unresolved plots haphazardly strewn about this series that I didn't even know this was one. And you made such a clear case for it, I find it hard to believe it's not the case, awesome!
Also any thoughts on the theory by Duel Process Theory> that includes crying child's name being revealed way back? It's super compelling and uproots a long standing assumption in the fandom.
Love your content john! You're amazing! Thanks For this 🔥🔥🔥🔥
BRO--- MY HEART STARTED BEATING FAST AT "I recognise you" LINE!!! Seriously, it's a great theory!!
great work once again John no one's doing it like you
I agree 100% with the theory, I think it makes a lot of sense from numerous points of view and lines up with many things. The obly question left in my mind is "so what?" "why does this matter?" "woukd they really put that much effort and detail just for a nugget of inconsequential information?" and things like that. Great theory though!
First🎉🎉 there's also the fact that in the books some woman's house is built on top of sister location or so,etching and someone was down there or got stuck there, can't fully remember
This goat always finds the hidden treasures Scott has left behind. Great video John! You really are the next Mat for Fnaf❤️🔥
I don't think Cassies dad is Bonnie bully, at this point I'm fully convinced that people are being gathered who share traits/look like people from the past, its a mass recreation with people. It's telling us that princess quest ending is putting things together that has happened before
Yeah
It's Michael who was in sister location, like it's confirmed in game
I love how well this theory fits with all the new lore that we've been getting since Steelwool took over FNAF and I do think that you nailed it! The only problem I can see is that when Sister Location came out Bonnie Bro was just a random background character with zero relevance to the story. I can't imagine Scott already planning all of this so far back in advance. So yes, it's totally possible that the modern lore has retconned this detail to retroactively fit with Cassie's dad's story, but what was Scott's original intention when he made Sister Location? That's still up in the air...
Its sweet how MatPat inspired people to continue doing FNAF theories after his retirement
You draw very compelling conclusions and I really love your theories. You approach things more from a narrative mindset than a purely factual one like game theory. You have a lot of great evidence that I don't see any other theorists mention while GT is always getting hooked up on all the minor details.
I am very hopeful that we will get what happened to all of Michael's old "friends" who are connected to a specific animatronic and what their stories will be as adults(if they all even made it to adulthood).
The Losers Club
@@Lazurit8 LOL
My only minor critique; Cassidy’s dad wasn’t even a twinkle in Scott’s eye when he made sister location- who do you think the person before you was supposed to be originally?
Probably no one, just a way to explain the gameplay
YAYYY THANKS JOHN FOR THE NEW FNAF THEORY VIDEO❤❤
Exactly at 8:20 their is letters and if u decipher it it spells "Next weekend... be ebadz"
8?!? THAT CAN’T BE RIGHT
In the teaser of fnaf security breach, when the new animatronics are revealed, the music behind is the melody that bellora plays in Sister location
Dittophobia: the fear of repetition
I actually agree with this theory because none of us have noticed that detail- unless security breach was like made in the 2010’s or 2000’s because if the bite happened in 1983 while Cassie’s dad is a teen and he grew up older but in (2040?) that will make him old and it won’t make sense how how Cassie is still a child, because she would’ve been an adult at some point.
And I have a theory not related to this video but I hope anyone reads it
Theory A#: this maybe not enough proof for it but I’ll give it a try. Now remember in fnaf 3 mini game the happiest day? Or where the dead children celebrate the crying child’s birthday? (Not Cassidy cause she decided to trap William in his own hell but c.c wanted to rest) but if you focused on the detail where we pass by children who are alive and celebrating their birthday there are two specific masks that we see in and thought it was either one of or two of the mediocre melody animatronics but that didn’t seem to fit enough for it so I assumed it was maybe roxy and Monty since the two colors kinda resembles them bit. (Now this is a made up story so please do not assume it is real or argue with that theory) so back then when Henry and William used to work together building freddy and his friends (during the time where fredbear diner existed but wasn’t fully constructed) they had tried to focus on what to choose characters to go along with Freddy and chica, William suggested maybe a wolf and a gator but that didn’t approve well with Henry since he finds it less relatable instead he thought of a bunny and a pirate fox which that idea seemed to work well. Now years later after fazbear entertainment was building the mega pizzaplex mall one of the heads (who used to work with Henry) has scattered around some old blueprints or drawing concepts and he found two old drawings from Henry’s work it goes by the wolf roxy and the second monty the gator, they managed to fully finish Roxy but monty was a late to be finished and so his gator golf. In the aftermath of bonnie being missing they decided to have monty being part of the band. (Yeeeeah not a good one but I guess I tried but like this one since it can fit well in the fnaf plot eh we’ll just find out later how and who was responsible of Bonnie’s absence)
Now theory B#: after the bite of 83 I assume Micheal was arrested for killing his own brother and so his friends but the three them scattered away running from the police. Cassie’s dad if I assume has ran to sister location to hide there until the commotion is over but unaware how sister location is dangerously bad and the horrors he’ll face now the other lines don’t seem fit expect for baby in this video, I’ll focus on with Freddy since he makes an accurate line “ well hello again, are you ready for round two?” “knock knock anybody home?” Now the first line kinda supports this theory fuhnaff and I agree! I assume the Funtime animatronics has met Cassie’s dad once and some may remember him and some not. But maybe they do remember him but rather not interested to talk about. But what I can say some have met cassie’s dad but some don’t either were under construction or locked away.
Now that’s all I wanna share and please do not argue in the comments lol we can all gather informations and piece it up together like a puzzle pieces and it doesn’t matter who’s theory is right or wrong, in the end we all find out with each theories pieced and supported we’ll find the big mystery until the big reveal. Now bread a day keeps the horrors away 🍞
Bro I remember those Sis Loc streams 🤩
I really like this interpretation of the candy cadet code. I’ve not been super convinced by interpretations saying it’s Cassie or Vanessa, but it being Cassie’s dad is super satisfying.
I ran the code at the end through a disk cypher and got:
NEXTWEEKENDBEREADY
There were two bombshells (3:59, 5:36) that made me shudder and laugh from the connections you drew, and you absolutely earned that "Ultimate Need More Proof."
Omg posted just in time for me to watch as I go to sleep
Man, 8 years already. Man, I feel old and I’m not even in college yet. 😅
Honestly, I think Scott and the company are *intentionally* trying to make Cassie’s dad the central point here. The “map bot ending” of HP2 sold it for me.
Fuhnaf: the final mystery solvd
Me:what about the mysterious springlock suit
That one's very mysterious too
@@Cherryblossom4kelly and the placement of it in the time line
This is actually my first comment on any theory video and its probabbly not going to get noticed. But what if the time he went into the bunker and made that hiding place was the second time, since it said he went in with more experience, maybe he was there but with someone else (seeing everything that happaned but couldnt do anything about it) and when he got out and older knowing what to do, he went back in and made that hiding place and such, but sadly didnt make it, and thats why he is missing now,
what a great theory
8 years?!
Woah, this has to be straight up canon or extremely implied information!
Great job, John. Keep up the good work! ❤
Keep up the good work!
I really like watching your videos and you’re very good at presenting information and making an explanation. The only problem I have with this video is you keep talking about how Scott is trying to hint at something we all missed about sister location but the problem is you never actually said anything substantial that could be considered a theory as to what that could be. It just feels like you’re talking about details about sister location that could potentially be used to add extra context to what we already know
This is what we have to do in order to get a little close to the full story short steps
I don't like this theory very much because it assumes that "the previous technician" had some meaning back in 2016, when Scott created Sister Location. What was this meaning? Why was Circus Baby talking so special about him? As for now, this video sounds as if this guy was "a teaser to Help Wanted 2", and this feels absurd. There is a point in giving more story to already established characters, but you'd have to explain what was previously established. As for now, there's nothing.
But I don't really agree that the technician survived. He survived Bidybabs, but "this scenario" is the power outage - he had to go through Ballora Gallery. Baby knows that "if you trust HandUnit, you will die". How does she know that? What happened during the previous power outage? We can't be sure that the technician survived all of that.
0:21 THE SUBSCRIBE BUTTON GLOWED?!
I think it does that when they say to sub it also does it to the like button when they say to like
Why aren’t you subscribed to John.
How do you keep doing this? You have a way of finding little details that people just haven’t really considered, and then not only do you turn them into good theories, you turn them into *REALLY SOLID THEORIES.* Not only are they believable, but they make a lot of sense! You almost make it look easy, and you never fail to impress. Solid snack worthy videos. Keep up your incredible work 👌
Now the new theory is why they didint just use one of the dead technicians to leave
Ur theories are always so satisfiying when it answers age old untied holes, i love it
Before I get into the rest of the video, I do want to mention a few things:
- We do not know if the one that hid behind the "bidybab wall" actually survived SL
- The person that hid behind the wall is not necessarily a majorly relevant character
But I'm interested to see where this goes.
Okay, it's obviously Cassie's dad you were suggesting. Right, so:
- There is a clear gap between the modern FE and the past FE. If he's an engineer there now, that doesnt mean he was one at the old FE. His authority there has nothing to do with what he might have done in SL.
- Voice lines are genuinely just reused for no reason in both HW1 and HW2. There was no need to get more Bidybab lines than necessary, so they just reused them
- The fazwrench and faz-conduit are branded after Glamrock Freddy, a character that didnt exist at the time of SL. They were not actually there.
- The Bidybabs were used because they are easy "pawn enemies" that you can just scatter accross the map without needing to worry about space or them being too visible/stealing the main enemy's spot.
- While the "I recognize you" line is genuinely fascinating, one needs to keep in mind that the actual Circus Baby is not there. It's a digital creature created by Glitchtrap. While the implications might still ring true, it could just be that Glitchtrap recognizes him.
- I doubt the "memory dolls" represent Cassies Dad's memories. As they are linked directly to Glitchtrap, I think they are what he is tied to. Memories of the past, forming a recreation of Afton, who can only be defeated when those memories are put to rest.
Still, very interesting video!