Michigan State Police Cause Accident
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Michigan State Police officer Michael Morey caused an accident when Morey pulled over Tim the Trucker for purposes of harassing the professional driver on 2015-07-20.
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States are well aware that unnecessary stops cause accidents. Traffic laws require vehicles to slow down or move to the left. This causes needless congestion and the loss of safety margins in between vehicles. Ultimately, these "Roadside Inspections" and prejudicial speed laws requiring trucks to drive slower than cars are the root cause of many accidents on the highways today.
Officer Michael Morey was the underlying cause of the one-vehicle accident captured by Tim the Trucker in this video.
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And this is exactly why I retired from trucking after a perfect record of 26 years! Been retired now for 5 years and they still call asking me to come back. Good luck out there boys and girls, your gunna need all the luck you can get. These cops today are nuts!
I realize that the officer was within his job scope to ask for all this info, but I don’t get the very loud and condescending tone of voice!
It's noisy in big-trucks, especially with a door open. I thought the cop was acting reasonably.
Hell ya big time
mrearly2 , I went back and listened to the video again - just to be fair. Nope, still loud and condescending!
@@debbiputman3482 I disagree. He was speaking in a voice that would be heard over the noise of the truck. He actually seemed rather routine about the whole thing.
Glenn Quagmire we’ll just have to agree to disagree. The driver wasn’t anywhere near as loud and is easily heard by both the camera and the cop.
I'm always amazed when people do not throw away old, expired insurance and registration documents. How irritating to fumble through multiple pages of trash in search of a valid document.
Not all truckers own the trucks they drive it's the owner of the truck that is responsible to keep paperwork up to date not the driver if he doesn't own the truck
@@richardbudd7523 Maybe, but other drivers would debate that with you. I'm not a trucker, but I sure wouldn't start a trip without all paperwork up to date and accessible at the fingertip; it would save time if I was pulled over. I'd want to make sure all documents are up to date and not expired. What good does it do to have expired insurance paperwork, even if it's not your responsibility?
@@Ward00 I agree he should check too but if the owner of the truck was doing his job then the paperwork would be up to date and older paperwork taken out and filed like it should. A lot of truckers that I know will take the old paperwork out of the truck themselves taking to the office. Plus if the service paperwork isn't right they will refuse to drive that truck remember truckers so yeah I believe I was a little hasty with my first comment
It's the DRIVER'S responsibility to make sure he has the correct paperwork (registration, insurance, permits) before he moves the truck
The DRIVER receives the tickets for the infractions, just as with a car.
hahaha...I totally got out of a ticket once cuz I was slowly fumbling thru all the old paperwork! Non-moving violation anyway-no biggie...Cop was not patient.
LOL, it's his fault that you're driving a CMV in a dangerous way thus causing him to stop you. Wow, another person that feels they are entitled. Nice job, it's CMV operators like you that has given good CMV operators a bad name.
The officer was doing his job, the rest is just coincidence.... fact of life specially people driving campers or trailers, inexperienced....
Everyone's required to carry that card, with the advent of eld, there are nearly a dozen different platforms... This driver is unorganized and clueless.
Michigan commercial vehicle enforcement is a joke. They'll rail road you into a rest area put 5 officers on your truck if they don't find any violations you're out of there in less than 15mins with no proof that you had a clean inspection when you argue with them about that by saying "I bet if you found something wrong you'd put this inspection on my record" they get pissed and write you for no reflective tape on the upper corners of the cab, even though the law says it's required for CMV manufactured after July 1, 1997 and the model year of your truck is a 1994 when you tell the gentleman about this he'll tell you that you have 14 days to take it up with the court. Yeah they're out there to make the roads safer alright.
Sound TYPICAL just about EVERYWHERE in Gestapo land, anymore. TOO many "control people" Democrats (& a lot of Republicans too) elected to office based on LIES to THE "Public", aka We The People
@@realclassamerican2777 Sooner or later, people find out that they're not free.
You don't have to take it up with a court if they don't have proof.
Yep Michigan stopped me last yr checked my log book ran cdl looked in back of my trailer looked over my truck didn't find anything so I asked about getting a clean report and he said "I'm just a state police not a commercial vehicle inspector so I can't do that report"... so then I was like why the F did u stop me then u clown.
@@blankblank3397 Sounds about right.
One of the reasons I wouldn't want to drive over the road! To much politics and pricks!
The whole "Every waking moment spent making money for your employer" thing doesn't help either.
@knine1833 how about getting given directions that cause you to get ticketed because they take you through places commercial vehicles aren't allowed to go?
I worked on the Home Depot distribution account for Swift Transportation in Grand Praire Texas. Kim Rea the on site manager for Swift Transportation would intentionally, willfully plan it to where you had just enough time to tighten down your straps on your flatbed load of lumber and other building materials and then head out. One day I had one of them loads where you had just barely enough time to tighten down your load and leave before the load was late. Upon arrival to tighten down my load in the north yard there was a driver named Bill already there helping me tighten down my load. Bill and I only talked briefly, Bill took off before I had a chance to thank him for helping me tighten down my load. Shortly thereafter as I was enroute to delivering my load that damned disrespectful on site manager Kim Rea sent me a Qualcomm message asking ''Did you thank him?''. That disrespectful on site manager Kim Rea and that poor excuse for a driver Bill PLANNED THE WHOLE EVENT in advance. They planned the whole event in advance to make me feel like that I was some kind of thankless person so then that way they don't have to feel so horrible about they themselves being a bunch of stupid, useless, THANKLESS people. Kim Rea and Bill are wicked. I was informed of the wicked people in the year 2000. I am the first one in world recorded history to have come to find out about the wicked people. The source that informed me of the wicked people informed me that the wicked people have been influencing all of the problems to happen out there.
It's the wicked people who are causing the problems in trucking. It's not US Congress or DOT. It's the wicked people like Kim Rea and Bill who are causing the crap that drivers are expected to tolerate. By the way, on the Bill subject, I just remembered something. One day Bill said ''Ya gall Richard you come clear down from Utah to help Kim on the account, she doesn't even thank you''. This was said by Bill months and months after Kim Rea and Bill pulled that crap on me that I talked about in my last comment. Bill knew that me going clear down to Texas from Utah to help them wicked people out on that account and for them not to thank me is something that Bill knew that only the wicked people would do, in other words. Kim Rea and Bill set up in advance that one event that one day in 05 to make me feel like that I am thankless so that then that way THEY don't have to feel so terrible about being a thankless people, that is. Even though I came clear down from Utah to Texas to help them out on that account.
Not to mention here in MI with the speed limit raised to 75 MPH you have traffic traveling from 85 to 70 MPH with a few going as fast as 90 and of course those people driving 68 in the left lane. DO NOT see them pulled over. Last two years I worked I drove a fuel transport. Tourists in the summer and ice covered snow drifted roads in the winter. People have no idea what it is like to operate these rigs and to deal with all the BS. Wouldn't do it again for love nor money.
Lamist video I've ever seen didn't even show the accident this trucker just wants to cry about getting pulled over
The trucker is more responsible for the accident than the trooper. Had the trucker done a proper pre-trip inspection, as he is required to do, the trooper probably would have been more accommodating. The fact that he had so much trouble finding the registration, insurance cards and instruction sheet shows that he did not do a proper pre-trip inspection. What else did he skip? We don't know and neither did the trooper. Pull that in Connecticut and that stop would have been a lot longer and involved a full inspection and several tickets. Be grateful he didn't write you any tickets and stop blaming him for your disregard for the law. Unbelievable.
This stop was routine and you are making something of nothing. You were speeding period and so you are pissed you got caught, you got a federal doc that he stopped you. The officer was spot on with his inspection and next time have your doc's together and do your part of the inspection. You act like you never got a inspection before. Blame yourself for getting pulled over, not having your shit together and be thankful he was professional and you didn't get fined. So many crybabies in trucking anymore!
Aaron Kleinert , I didn’t get any indication that the driver was “pissed” at being pulled over.
Debbi Putman We all get pissed at getting pulled over! We got caught, we sure ain’t happy about it!
Aaron Kleinert , I don’t, but then I rarely get pulled over and rarer still am I ticketed. I would only be upset if I got a ticket for something I didn’t do
You are what is called a 'bootlicker.' That means your daddy was a beta and raised you always agree with authority no matter what.
Policing for profit or as I call it Pirating is ridiculous anyways. speeding isn't a crime as there is no victim, and doesn't hurt anyone. And at night.... those cars with the new LED lights... you can't see anything and are a major distraction for drivers when they already have too many distractions built into their cars not counting those cell phones.
Good way to show how unprofessional and unprepared/unknowledgeable you are. I hate pushy cops, but this one knows what he's doing. He didn't cause that accident. Him writing you tickets or not writing you tickets doesn't keep him from showing he was there. You showed yourself breaking laws, improper logs, improper truck records keeping, improper log knowledge, and you want to make people mad at the cop. You are an unprofessional driver. ..period.
Oh get a life you miserable sod.
Let me ask somthing have u ever been a truck driver. Probly not quit downing truck drivers u have no clue what its like
This is unbelievable!! You stayed so calm!!!
openyoureyes
Of course he was calm, because that was one of the nicest cops ever.
Just be a professional driver like you're being paid to be. Know your rig, your requirements and keep everything current. It is embarrassing when someone else knows your job better than you do.
Drivers are responsible for observance of changing road conditions and maintaining proper control of their motor vehicle. If memory serves me right the speed limit is 55 mph on Michigan's highways and interstates roadways. This officers purpose is Commercial Vehicle Enforcement. The driver of the camper should have been more attentive.
You need to be more organized
Everyone on road was passing him...he passed 1 truck..pig is wrong..
Law for emergency vehicles is slow down or move one lane over. If you are paying attention you can see a troopers lights miles down road. Make plan to do either of the above. How freaking difficult is that? Folks travel too close, and don't pay attention. I find the weekend warriors and the RV's the worse menaces on the road, and for the life of me can not figure out why states don't make Rv'ers obtain an endorsement and have an upgraded license in order to drive RV's or pull trailers. They have no idea the maintenance condition of a vehicle or trailer that sits arounds months at a time, how much weight they are hauling nor the physics to try and stop themselves in an emergency, let alone the spacial relations for the size of their vehicle. They drive them in the left lane and at speeds set for cars. As far as the Rv'er going into ditch....he was not paying attention, was traveling too fast and did not leave enough space between him and the other cars to maneuver safely. It was not an accident it was negligence, and example of what was described above. If the trucker had not been exceeding the speed limit, he would not have been pulled over. So in theory it was the professional driver that caused the incidence, sorry.
Good points but after living in multiple states and a few countries, I would love to have the truck enforcement that MSP puts on commercial carriers. Roads in the south U.S. are beaten to death by overweight trucks, poor driving, speeding and poor upkeep of equipment. No one wants to prevent someone from earning a living or be ridiculous on enforcements, but this guy in the video has been caught speeding a few times. One things I noticed after living in michigan the trucks don't travel in the left lane for no reason, do not have missing mud flaps, don't throw rocks up every mile, and are generally better maintained and have better drivers. I have been travelling in the south recently, I have endured two broken windshields, have countless chips from uncovered truck loads, been witness to several road rage from truckers sitting in left lane talking on their cell phones. If you maintain equipment and do what is right you will not be pulled over and have lesser chance of wrecks. Somehow in my 40 years of driving I have never had a ticket, never been pulled over, or been involved in a wreck like the one in the video. Im no saint, and I do push the speed limit :), but I don't sit in nose to tail traffic, I pay attention, and I leave safe distances. I maintain my vehicles, my trailers and equipment and its amazing the results.
Yes drive down a busy expressway and leave a safe distance between you and the vehicle in front of you. Oops of course another vehicle pulls into the spot after passing you. What that cop did was making things less safe he is paid to keep us safe. He could do a lot better. That camper could be carrying someone you care about then you post would be the opposite. Think about it.
you live in the perfect world. where the me first assholes always acknowledge your indicator that relays a message to them saying me first
So 20 something minutes passed with cars and trucks passing by? Yes, so tell me again how its the officers fault? Tim the trucker, nah Tim the tool
This cop needs a serious lesson in people skills. His attitude will unnecessarily escalate situations.
Cop seemed very nice and professional. Driver was good also but very disorganized. I can produce my registration, poi, and license in 15 seconds
not saying that I dont like cops. but dang that one was picky
funny part is with his name and the location of the incident I suspect he is a son or grandson of one of my High School teachers
Logan Linenberger I felt the Cop was an arrogant dick weed. As soon as he entered the truck. He acted like he had an attitude and talked down to the driver the whole entire time. Compassion goes along way in this world, no matter if your a cop, truck driver, dig ditches or clean toilets for a living.
Same here but that cop is a DICK
This officer was totally BULLSHIT....(former CDL driver).....MI PIG = Road Pirate.
I don't like this asshole cop, gives the good cops a bad name.
First off the drivers did not have there paper work in order. I,as a driver for over 35 years knows this and if the paperwork was in order could have gone much quicker. Not excusing the officer
as a professional driver with 20+ years I see nothing wrong with the way the officer conducted himself. yes he was speaking in a louder voice. however, I believe he was speaking louder and very clear to ensure the driver could understand his instructions. I did however see the driver could have been more organized with his paperwork to make this routine traffic stop go smoother. and a little bit of good attitude could have helped this a lot. when you show an officer you are willing to cooperate to the fullest extent most officers will be a little more forgiving when writing citations. I think the officer did a fine job and I would welcome him to stop me if he sees fit. well done #michiganstatepolice
Matt, I very much agree with you. I drove an 18 wheeler for 40 years with 2 1/2 million miles accident-free. Safety on the highway was my main theme. When I stopped by a D. O. T. Officer for inspection. I would say to him, "Here is my key." In fact, I had one officer ask me if I had speed control on the tractor. Because my speed was so on the nose. The tractor didn't have a speed control at all. When he asks me if I had speed control. I replied, "Yes, I sure have. It is a size 15 with 5 toes on it." That officer laughs his head off. He said, "I wish I had more truck drivers like you." Had a good inspection, Lol!
There is absolutely no evidence the officer caused the accident. Truck driver was speeding, obviously does not keep permit pack organized, did not know about the instruction sheet for e-log, sounded surprised he had to have a paper log. Sounds like a driver NOT knowing what needs to be known. Officer did show he was there by giving driver inspection and had to call in the stop.
They are Manufacturing 800 hp cars and Pulling over a Truck Driver for Speeding. Trying to make a living. They are controlling what they want too.HOW IS THIS JUSTICE?
I stopped watching after truck in the fast lane.. seriously??
That's Why i Don't Drive a Rig Any More Thay Took All Of Your Rights Away and Now They Wounder Why They Can't Fine Good Drivers Any More This is Why FTW
Auto BikeTruck ...i also quit driving after 14 years and i have a spot clean record...but just to much bs on the drivers now i do construction..home every night and make more money
lol awe someone doesn't like rules or grammar?
Half the drivers on the road today are "student drivers" and of course that means they are not drivers at all. I really watch them when I'm on the road. Might be there first week of driving anything but there mom's VW.
@@dperry428 Auto Bike Truck (the original commenter) capitalized nearly every letter, aside from "I" (which needs to be capitalized) and "is". Their entire comment is a poorly structured, continuous run on sentence. So, yes, the man you were responding to did not capitalize the first letter of a sentence, but the man HE was responding to did a much worse of a job. At least Peter F's comment makes a shred of sense- Auto Bike Truck's is jumbled nonsense.
The issue of the "14th Amendment" is incorrect. Holding a Driver license is a privilege, not a right. The 14th Amendment relates to Civil rights, not vehicular regulations and rules. Have your paperwork current and ready when it is requested. The time it took to retrieve all the documents, makes it appear you are not prepared as well as suspicious. The State Trooper "causing" the collision is speculation.
The word 'privilege' is a misnomer. Yeah, I know that's what they call it, but they are incorrect in calling it that. A license is something that you worked for and earned. A privilege is something rich motherfuckers have that they didn't earn, it was handed to them on a platter.
Your knowledge of the law is speculation hahahahaha. Too funny Mark has taken a few law classes to become a police officer. Hey bud not a lawyer you need a few more years and some experience for that.
'A license is a privilege'???
No its not!
A license is basically the state taking away your RIGHTS and then selling them back to you!
In the United States we have the freedom to travel, and the bulk of modern travel in the United States involves driving an automobile.
Example: on my way to work every morning I encounter probably 2,000 cars operating on the road in close proximity to my own car, but on a typical morning I will only see 3 or 4 people walking down the side of the road.
If our current government restricts our freedom to operate a motor vehicle, they have also limited our freedom of modern travel.
@@danfish4life249 Google works in a pinch.
At the beginning of the video you were driving in the passing lane. A car had to pass you on the right. If someone has to pass on the RIGHT then you are WRONG. Not very professional.
His papers were not correct, in violation of the rules and most likely, company rules. He failed to keep his papers handy, in the case of a traffic stop by a cop. He didn't remove the Qualcomm unit from the bracket for the cop to easily view it. Why was he using a log book (and told the cop so), when he had the electronic log? Of course, the cop would compare the two and look for a violation. Although, technically, he (the driver) was not fast, he WAS in violation of the posted speed limit, and that gave the cop a reason (whether or not we agree with it) the power to pull his ass over. Four-wheelers are especially stupid, when it comes to dealing with vehicles on the side. The statement "...officer MM caused an accident..." is untrue. What is true, most likely, is that, due to his and the driver's presence, traffic became fouled up and the non-driver pulling the camper couldn't handle it.
Where is the video of the camper going in to the ditch???
He left that out since it shows that he is just whining.
1:51 in I already spotted a problem before knowing why he was pulled over. Definitely following too closely to the truck in front.
That not why he was stopped cant you eye that video
That truck pulled over too close, he may have not backed off fast enough but was pulled over before he had much chance. He was tight on that truck for 3 seconds.
He wasn't following the truck, it overtook him and merged in front of him.
he also clogged up the left lane, several vehicles passed him on the right, here is your clue semi drivers, and for that matter other drivers. If I have to pass you on the right it means you shouldn't be in the left lane , end of story.
@@peterf.229 He moved to the left lane to pass the hopper truck. That is where the trooper tagged his speed. Maybe you need to be more patient.
Cry......cry, cry, cry. The officer did not cause the accident. In Michigan, people are supposed to move over when emergency or police vehicles are on the shoulder. This driver is terrible, and shouldn't even be in a truck! Other drivers not paying attention is what caused this accident. The officer was short with you because he had to take care of the victims in the accident. This driver not having all the appropriate documents that the officer asked for is Driver 101. This idiot should know this.
I been saying this for years !
State troopers especially cause more accidents than ANYBODY else, I know here in North Texas Interstate 20 and 35 are mostly two lanes with posted speeds of 70mph, they pull somebody where highway speeds make it unsafe for EVERYBODY !
Don't believe it ?
Walk across a busy street with an twenty year state trooper...
He or she acts like a scared cat on a hot tin roof surrounded by mean dogs !
It's halarious !
No kidding, troopers are scared to death of an automobile do 70mph but they work the job anyway...
God bless them but...wow !
Which states acknowledge that one of the one of the major causes of accidents on the highways today is police officers stopping people and issuing citations for no reason?
You were speeding.........GUILTY!
tHAT WAS A VERY NICE OFFICER.
14:54 Amen. Nothing like hauling a load going 75 and having to do an emergency brake down to 40 because the driver in the minivan spikes his or her brakes and merges left at the same time because of a flashing blue light.
I've had a couple instances too where these deputies or HP that like to hide along these wooded crossovers on interstate like to appear in a split second onto interstate to pursue that guy doing 10 over like they're making some major bust. I-95 around Brunswick in Glynn County Ga is forever bad about that.
I had one pull out of the median woods in front of me one time in the left lane. I think he was so focused on catching a speeder that he never looked to his right when he pulled out. Of course he hit his lights the second his tires hit the pavement so if I had hit him, I would have somehow been at fault. I ended up about 2 feet off his bumper with the ABS fully engaged. I think when he realized his rear window was full of hood and grill he realized what he did and floored it to get out of the way and away from me so I wouldn't have time to get his tag. I never did see the other guy pulled over so I think the cop took the next ramp so I wouldn't catch up with him.
Driving a fuel transport when a MSP car shot out in front of me I had to brake hard and if I had not been empty he would be history and I would have had the MSP and the Prosecutor doing anything and everything to blame the accident on me. And they are not limited to doing what is legal in MI the MSP are the last people you would expect to be operating within the law. Hell don't believe just ask your local Sheriff.
The time stamp on the camera proves you were speeding. Passed one mile marker post at 10:32:16 on the camera time, then the next one at 10:33:11. One mile in 55 seconds equals 65.45 miles per hour. Don't speed and this sort of thing will happen a lot less. And yes, I've gotten my share of speeding tickets, and I've earned every one of them.
I don't know what the officer was asking for but I'm not a truck driver, It appears the officer was pretty nice holding your hand step by step and waiting for you to bumble around finding everything.
True
You speeding and not following the law was the cause for the stop, hence YOU are the cause for the crash. Not the Trooper! If you wouldn't have been speeding the Trooper wouldn't have stopped you therefor no crash would have occurred.
Add to that he was totally disorganized. You need to be able to put your hands on everything the officer might need without searching!
The crash was caused by the other drivers & had zero to do with the trucker nor the Officer.
whan you get a CDL you accept all the responsabilties that come with that lic ie random DOT checks, this Police officer did nothing wrong he should not hve had to ask for that info it should have been at the drivers finger tips. this driver is just breaking balls
You must be a cop lover
A driver license is evidence of a contract with the State, wherein the license holder agrees to all road and traffic rules. Your license gives the cops the power to hold you to that contract, if you should decide to violate any of the terms or conditions.
Ya the way he was being condasending. That cop was a asshole pull him over for. Doing 66 lol
@@shawnbrown3435 does it really matter? No so STFU
All the more reason we have a driver shortage no one wants to be treated like a criminal and have to jump thru all the hoops just to ripped off by logistics companies which is nothing more than double brokering load we get half of what the load pays after all the leeches get done. I cant wait to find something new and leave all the trucks to the middle eastern drivers they already account half of Michigan's driver pool
Paperwork check is part of your pre trip. Why give the officer a reason to dig through your paperwork anymore than need be.
1st question of "Govt Regulations", what does "Paperwork" have to do with SAFE Driving??? 2nd, what does a "Log Book" electronic or paper, have to do with the SAFE OPERATION of ANY Vehicle? 3rd, the "Driver" of the truck has NOTHING to due with whether "The Company" has insurance on the truck or not & at the moment of the stop, the Truck was NOT involved in an accident, SO, what does a piece of paper stating current insurance HAVE to DO with the SAFE Operation of the truck??? 4th "instructions" (in case the driver is in the hospital & the cops need to search for evidence), SO what happens IF the truck Burnt UP in an accident? Guess those instructions should be Fire Proof TOO, correct? IDIOT sh*t AS IF nobody at the Trucking Company or ANYONE else knows HOW TO hack the log
OH and BTW, what would the Nazi's DO in this Country, IF there were never Computers? The Gestapo's would need a pallet jack to handle everyone's "Paperwork" AND Everyone would Need a Truck to Traval to haul ALL the "Paperwork".
this is ridiculous. It is not the fault of the officer that someone had an accident. It also is completely silly that there would be no evidence that he was there if he lets you go. There would be plenty of proof that he was there regardless of if he tickets you or not. Sounds to me if anyone is to blame it would have been you for speeding and you should be grateful to him for not giving you a ticket. He finished his job and even offered to get you back on the road safe.
I am seeing a truck driver that did not have all of his paperwork current and in order. Maybe this is a reason to harass truck drivers as this is the norm? Maybe truck drivers need to show more professionalism?
Don't see anywhere in this video where MSP caused an accident, but ok...
You should join up your IQ is similar to this cops.
That's because the officer did not cause the accident.
It's called the butterfly effect. Cop needlessly stop trailer truck doesn't conduct stop and inspection... It's both a stop and inspection... In a safe environment not on the shoulder of a highway.
There's a reason the cop approached the semi on the shoulder right? For his safety. Many would argue he was unconcerned about public safety on the road.
@@anthonyantinarella3360 if all truck drivers were honorable and did THEIR jobs, the troopers would not NEED to be out there stopping and checking...there's a REASON they do what they do...perhaps if one of those rigs rolled over your wife or daughter or mother....oh, or boyfriend, you'd have a freakin clue!!
I usually have a ton of respect for truckers but it seems like someone's being a democrat because he got a ticket. 😭 🍼 ...what states 'acknowledges' that 'fact' ... Maybe you should follow the law and you wouldn't be stopped, etc, etc. ...you cannot blame the state police, it's really a ridiculous claim and you show no reason why the car is in the 'ditch' to assign fault. He could be there for any number of reasons.
He didn't get a ticket so you might just be rolling along like a blind guide.
Ok, dickhead. Being a democrat is being a baby? Seems like you’re the one crying here. I’m sure you never speed or maybe you’re being like a Republican, a big low iq hypocrite
Hey driver, the cop didn't cause the accident. That was caused by the driver not paying attention to the road in front of him. If you get into an accident and rear-end someone, who's fault is it? Yours!!! For failure to maintain a proper distance. Same thing applies here. I'm not a cop lover by any means. I drove for 35+ years. Yes I got quite a few speeding tickets. Only had three accidents, two of which were not my fault (according to documentation), so I figure I was doing good when I got out of the game. But blaming a cop for someone else's lack of judgement doesn't look good on you. That's akin to you getting blamed for an accident that took place on the other side of the interstate just because you were driving by.
So stop and "Put your Big Boy Panties on" and stop blaming someone else for something that happened, which wouldn't have happened had you not been speeding to get pulled over in the first place.
Thomas Pigg highways have plenty of exits for the officer to use for traffic stops, why do it along a congested highway!?
@@HillbillyRednecking I agree with you completely on that point. Now comes the point of locations of exits. There are places on highways that there's no exits for miles in either direction. Then you have to take into account jurisdiction. What if the next exit is in another township, district or county? I myself think that the "shoulders of the road" are the worse place for traffic stops, but until someone comes along and figures out something better and safer we're stuck with what we've got.
@@thomaspigg306 Now comes THE Point... 66 in a 65mph zone !!! WHEN, (You saw the video) HOW Many CARS passed this dude (running 80 As the cop said) ??? About big boy pants... "The Govt" has CREATED pussy pants people. OMG "I" spilled Hot McDonald's coffee in MY Own LaP... I Need 2 million dollars Mister Judge (remember??). OH WAIT.. NO Fault Insurance... IF their hadn't been the truck pulled over, EVERYONE "Could Have" kept on NOT Paying Attention!! BTW did YOU see the truck being operated in a "Unsafe" Manor? SO "The Govt" CREATES these "Hazards" through ALL the BS rules regulations & statutes
@@realclassamerican2777 so Dick squeak the officer stopping the truck is NOT a Trooper he is a COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. .
THEY STOP TRUCKS not passenger vehicles you moronic Dick squeak. ..
@@denisehaley6864 Calm down asshole..
AND WE WONDER WHY AMERICA HAS A SHORTAGE OF TRUCK DRIVER'S. REGULATION'S IN AMERICA ARE DRAINING US ALL.
THIS IS TERRIBLE, ALL THIS FOR WHAT?? A 800 DOLLAR FINE FOR THE COPS PAYCHECK. . COPS HAVE TO MAKE THERE MONEY FIRST.. MAKES ME SICK.
This is exactly why I left the trucking business
The harasser / predator makes more money, has a huge pension and is referred to as a "hero" while the trucker doing the actual work, winds up with next to nothing
Just in case anyone doesn't know it.. PROFESSIONAL drivers do not draw undue attention to themselves by the way they drive, (unless they are emergency vehicle drivers, which is a different issue), The true professional drivers do not commit traffic violations of any kind. It always amazes me that people who like to call themselves "professional drivers", often have an extensive traffic history, and the "average" driver hasn't. and it's got nothing to do with the argument some try and put up that "professionals" are on the roads more, so they are more likely to be stopped. That's rubbish. Do not break the law in the first place and nobody would be whinging about anything.
as a professional driver, I would agree with your premise of avoiding being noticed and avoiding violations of the law. but also as a professional driver and as a human being , I know none of us are perfect. I would find it unlikely that even a professional and perfect driver as yourself , best never inadvertently picked up a little too much speed coming down the hill, or failed to notice a speed limit change, or perhaps followed a car length or two too close to another vehicle.
You're right but the fact that they break the law everyday on the freeway driving in the passing or in the fast lane at a lower speed, cutting off people at the last minute just because they are going to miss their exit. They need to stay in the right lane I understand they need to get to their destination but do it the safe way and learn how to drive on the freeway. This is on I35 in Texas that i'm talking about.
First and foremost it you're a "professional" in a job that is not a professional field the term professional only really means you're getting paid to do something. Second comparing a "professional truck driver" to an average driver is not a valid statistical argument my father was a over the road truck driver, at one point in his career he taught UPS employees to drive Semi-trucks. In a year he drove about the same mileage I do in 10 years so if he had 5 tickets and I had one his incident rate per mile was still about 1/2 of mine. Second much of the traffic code is not so much designed for safety but for some municipalities to get revenue so traffic tickets may not be a valid measurement. Example is in Michigan when the federal government imposed the 55 MPH speed limit it was not for safety reasons but for fuel economy and if you took a driver's test during that era you would be asked "what is the speed limit on Michigan interstates?" and if you answered 55 you would be wrong as Michigan law still read 70 MPH, and the fee structure and points system for speeding allowed if you were on a limited access highway, ticketed for exceeding the 55 MPH speed limit BUT you were on a section of highway that was or would of had a higher speed limit prior to enactment of the 55MPH speed limit and you were traveling at or less than that speed you paid a fine but were accessed no points on your license. Or the small town in Wisconsin that handily happened to be on a state highway that connected the I-39 and US 51/151 systems to US 41 and saved 15-20 miles of travel while doing it, magically their speed limit drops from 55 to 35, (most other cities in the area go 55-45-then 35) the signs tend to be blocked by trees or other objects, but cheer up the quick stop in town will give you a discount on the souvenir Tee shirt if you show then them a copy of a recent citation in their speed trap (some of the town's businesses weren't to keen on the speed trap).
Capt. Beak, thank you. You bring an enlightened point of view, to this comment section.
And people wonder why there is a shortage of drivers? Just watch this video. Who in their right mind would want to put up with pricks like this? Pulling over a truck doing 65 AND the cop says watch out for the cars doing 80. Let's see what is more dangerous, all of the cars doing 80 or a truck doing 65? Pull over the cars!
I wouldn't want to drive a truck for anything with the way people drive....I don't know how they aren't in more accidents than they are.
Motortube we drivers have had enough of this crap so people get your head out of your ass get your shit in your car s or what aver we drivers don't gave a shit about you or your family and friends you people made me this way I don't give a dam is not working right now so get fucked
i remember when truck drivers weren't cry babies and drove properly
Maybe the troopers get lonely and just want to chat with someone 😋😘
Ann and maybe your an idiot
Wellibdamn _ Nope, you're the idiot for not recognizing sarcasm.
and then give you a ticket
he can chat with his pig buddies while they are blowing each other!
I think its funny the trooper said the cars would be zipping past them at 80mph on the off ramp. Which is much more unsafe than this trucker.
The "amateur" motorists were responsible for their own driving. As for not writing a ticket, you're wrong. MSP knows where its officers are/were. What do you consider a real reason to pull over a vehicle. Speeding? Driving too long? Whiner.
If you weren't speeding he wouldn't of pulled you over there for that accident never would have happened so how is that the officers fault you were the one that was speeding the officer was doing his job
Wait, YOU WERE SPEEDING!!! You got pulled over for breaking the law. STOP blaming others for your lack of driving your truck responsibly. You have to be a Democrat...
do you even now what the speed limit is there?
Blaming others is a Republican move - not Democrat
Exactly. Fuck you Mr. Koch
Mr.Kuch is correct. Only a Democrat or antifa member would put the blame on someone else when they were clearly breaking the law themselves.
Mark Gorney so fuck you buddy
This cop must have failed his CDL'S and has it out for trucker's.
ps3613t There is no “S” in CDL !! Why do people add S ???? WTF
@@johnconnors5963 why did you add an s Mr. Connor. By the way, the terminators are looking for you.
Uh yeah, that's what it is, he's out for the truckers CDL. He wants the truckers CDL so he can go from Law Enforcement to his dream job of driving a dirty, disorganized rig with a coffee cup on the dash.
Dumbass
Driver mention to officer to move to a safer place like off ramp.
So you are a "professional" driver and just make up accident statatisics ? I have driven by thousands of police vehicle stops in my life and have never caused or seen an accident "caused" by the police doing their job. I have also checked accident statistics and have never found the "main" cause listed by each state as being "police stops", as you have falsely claimed. And why is being stopped a "harrassment"? Inspection is part of your job. If you don't like it them maybe another career might be in order.
It's the cops fault you were speeding, It's the cops fault you don't have your paperwork in order. It's the cops fault the camper drove himself into the ditch. You don't drive for Swift by chance?
I'm about 7:27 in and I really don't like this trooper.
You apparently haven't dealt with mean officers. This officer was actually being fair while doing his job at the same time. The officer only pulled this guy over apparently for speeding. If you don't like what an officer is trained to do (even though he was actually being fair and could've made things worse) , dont break the law. So, stop your whining!
Sure what ever you say UA-cam comment officer Slotkowski.
Sounds like you have an unwarranted personal grudge against this officer. That is your personal problem, not his. But, you can chose to hate him for no apparent reason all you like. It's your lack of critical thinking skills for being unreasonable even as the officer in question apparently was reasonable and fair to the driver in this video. It makes this driver, and those who hate police like yourself a petty asshole, not the officer. Get over it, and stop all of your whining and simpering like a petulant two year old. I have seen far worse from all kinds of people in positions of authority and who abuse their positions. This doesnt even remotely come close to what I have seen in my lifetime.
I am a 26 year veteran truck driver, the trooper was fine and very professional. but if you are referring to the trooper raising his voice it is because the truck driver had earphones in his ear(which is illegal). This driver got off lucky with a level two inspection( which is date and timed stamped as well as the location) and no tickets. And this idiot steering wheel holder is complaining. He probably should have lost his weeks wages as he was speeding and in violation of hours of service on his log book
if you're a dot cop you should be trained on how log books work....
mike rings apparently he is, he caught the violation.
apparently he knew more than hot shit stupid fuck in the video .
He was making sure the driver was familar with the system. Of course the state police are familar with different log systems.
@@damondhorner1602 lol, true
Did you thank the camper driver for saving you a point on your record and 300$'lol
Minel Fazlic You messed up the RV
His truck stop law degree didn't cover his faults. Just those around him.
Not your fault his what he learned.
Seriously- what's your point, Tim? I have never thought that ANY state trooper is less likely to have an accident as you or I.
I've been driving truck since 1975 and the first thing you learn is the term good buddy is derogatory. The fact you had to search for your log sheets and they weren't next to you would make me think they're not up to date, which is probably what the cop thought.
There goes 21 mins of my life I won't get back. Cops are there to make sure everyone stays safe and legal. Truckers are no exception. That cop had zero responsibility in the car and trailer hitting the ditch. Quit whining and just stay safe and legal.
Cops are state sponsored road pirates and are looking for any excuse to extort money out of people in the name of "safety".
@@anarchomoto1152 You must get frequent visits from law enforcement. You're a POS.
@@jeremiahpumford976 Tell THAT to a neighbor who got a DWI in Her LIVING ROOM 2 Hours AFTER being in her vehicle, Being NICE & answering the door with a Drink IN Hand for the cops. NO what's a POS these days are power hungry POS cops using NO Logic or Common Sense, JUST make an arrest for Brownie Points
@@anarchomoto1152 Jesus Man!! With an attitude like that, why don't you just park your truck & go on welfare??!!
@@jeremiahpumford976 No, I don't get any visits from law enforcement. Why would they have a reason to? To harass me?
Policeman doing his job !!!!! 😕
@Jakob Jones that cop should have been going after all the offenders that were passing him like he was sitting still. 11mph over the speed limit when guys were doing 20 over OMG really.
always require a court date
Court date for what?
Inspection only no fine
Greetings Operation CDL, I am a retired trucker. Back in 1991, I was driving on I-85 south from Greensboro, NC to Charlotte, NC. Back then there was no illegal lane restriction for big truckers. I was driving for Bell South. I came up behind a slow truck in the right lane. I was talking with him on the CB. I turn my left signal light on to proceed slowly in the left lane. It was 5 minutes later I was behind another slow truck in the 2nd lane. So I turn my left signal light on to proceed slowly into the 3rd lane. I was about half in the 3rd lane when a state trooper shot across from the blindside of my trailer going at least 100 MPH with no blue light on and no siren on. I very quickly turn back into the 2nd lane. Trooper shot out into the median and turn his blue light on. I told the other trucker over the CB that the trooper was going to pull me over. The trucker told me that I didn't do anything wrong, the trooper did a very unsafe move. My reply was, I know I didn't do anything wrong. He had my heart about hanging out of my mouth. I had no warning. The trooper did pull me over. When I saw him with his hat on, I knew he was going to give me a ticket. I ask him if he was okay. He said yes, come back to my patrol car with paperwork and license and registration. He wrote me a ticket for not looking. That was a lie. He couldn't tell I wasn't looking. To make the story short. I had a witness from that other trucker that told what that trooper did what I couldn't see. I really embarrass that trooper in front of the judge. The judge told me, I really shouldn't have got that ticket in the first place. It was the troopers unsafe move with no warning at all.
What a jerk he doesn’t have to treat the guy like he’s a toddler. The driver is being respectful and I would have told this guy off by now. Power hungry jerk.
OMG doing 66 MPH, he should of yanked you out of that truck and beat you with his billy-club...then left your carcass on the side of the road.... hehe
@Sether Castheth Seems like they could run you off the road at 15 mph. I would rather he be doing 71 with his head outside the truck than 64 with his eyes glued to the speedometer.
The speed limit at the time this video was recorded was 60mph for trucks you could do 64 all day long and they would not bother you. The speed limit in Michigan is now 65, but the federal transport law states that officers must allow 5mph over for variances in speedometers and tires which can affect your actual speed. This guy was doing 66 in a 60. That is a magnet for the DOT to look for further violations.
What a bunch of nonsense, i might as well be watching a sovereign citizen video
You we’re pulled for speeding and you are making an assumption of his reasoning for allowing you to go your merry way. You are now a mind reader and know the mind set of the officer. You seem to want to blame an officer for your lack or attention to detail. I have had my share of dealing with asshole officers and this guy was nothing but professional. He is not hiding anything. His actions didn’t cause any accident. The actions of the other drivers caused the accident. I do agree however that they should allow you to pull into a safe place instead of on the narrow shoulder of an interstate. You are allowed to drive on until you feel that it’s in the best interest of your safety and that of the others. I have never driven up there so I can’t speak for that location. That was 21:27 of time I lost because you were butthurt.
Note: looking at the video once again I see multiple cars passing this guy like there’s no tomorrow. I don’t know if there’s a different speed for truck versus cars but I seriously didn’t see where he was doing anything out of the way. If he was speeding then so be it he was justly pulled but if not then he is correct. Not afraid to say I am wrong but I still stand by the statement above. The cop was doing his job and wasn’t disrespectful from what I saw. He could have beat the citation in court but at what cost?
ted ledford 65 is far from speeding. The cop even said the "cars doing 80mph".
65 is impeding traffic in that area
I agree 100% Ted
This blue thug is a TOTAL douchebag and he needs the shit slapped out of him! #blueslivesplatter
What you folks don't know is that in that area of my home state of Michigan is that the posted speed limit for cars is 75 mph....so going 5 mph overthe posted speed limit is not the issue here!!
Next time maybe you shouldn't be speeding. Don't try passing the blame. Regardless, the officer was 100% legal and within his scope of duty while performing the stop. You were completely unorganized from the get go. Couldn't find paperwork, didn't even know you were supposed to have paper logs (but thankfully you did), had no idea what an instruction sheet was supposed to look like (basic E-log 101), had no idea where your trailer registration was (so you clearly didn't do your pretrip), and the list goes on. The officer had an attitude, I get it. But how many truckers do you think he deals with just like you who have no idea what you're doing and make his job 10x harder? Not to mention you violated your logs and tried using weather as an excuse. He was very understanding and respectful as you made a terrible attempt at justifying your violation. As a favor to all of us, you should seriously consider coming off the road.
The title to this video is deceiving and stupid, in no way did the trooper cause the accident , he probably prevented a worse one by stopping you from speeding in your rig.
Come on, Mike, you were in the wrong...and know it
You were speeding, he had every right and obligation to pull you over....he did not cause the accident, rubberneckers and speeders did....get a grip
1 mph over the speed limit, fuck outta here bud!
No.....it was 65 & 66, trucks are only allowed to go 60 mph so it was 5/6 mph over the limit. And in a rig that’s a lot!
@@jeffking6286 Smoke another one bud. In michigan on the highway max speed limit is 70 and 65 for trucks unless otherwise posted
You can tell the 🐷 was picked on at school!!!!!!
You know the signs don't you. You should know better than to call people names after all the names you were called while attempting to grow up. 🚔👮😂
@@jerrybroxson1174 don't try to tell me you're the only good 🐷e out there!!!!!!
Now your ignorance really shows. I didn't mean to bring back bad memories for you and get you all confused. Never did I mention being the only good officer out there. 99 percent of the officers out there are good. So take a deep breath and put those bad thoughts away. Don't take your frustrations out on people you don't know. Just because it was done to you doesn't make it okay for you to do it to others
Now go put some someone in jail for no reason and leave me alone sucker!!!
Honey hush. Your blood pressure is going to get to high. I'll keep doing my job and maybe we'll run into each other some day. I'll buy you a cold soft drink and you can vent about your childhood. So here the lesson ends. Good luck to you rookie. Catch you on the flip side.😎
Maybe you caused the accident by speeding. You don't speed, he doesn't stop you, no wreck.
If this trucker was speeding, the other drivers must have been going light-speed. They were passing this guy like he wasn't even moving.
Unfortunately, this officer is simply doing his job, and the trucker was doing his. The actual cause of the accident was the driver that ran the camper off the road.
And by the way. His cruiser records where he was. He did not cause the accident... Someone not paying enough attention to traffic ahead of them is what caused the accident.
So, have you not learned what the term "good buddy" really means yet? Lol...geez. Everything the officer requested is part of the DOT pre-trip inspection that's to be done by the driver before going on the road. He must have a "store bought" CDL license. The officer knows more about the truck than the driver does. Plus, I really don't think this guy should be imparting any kind of info on what you should or shouldn't do on the highway when he didn't know the most basic requirements of a driver... and "dangerous?" Dangerous is not doing a proper pre-trip inspection, thus putting everybody on the highway in jeopardy himself. The officer could have got you for a whole lot more than a speeding violation but didn't.
The thing is if you have all your information ready for the officer by the time he/she gets to your door, odds are they are going to tell you why you were pulled over, grab your trailer documents and head back to their vehicle. Since the driver didn't seem to be organized whatsoever the officer then decided to look at the logs. You shouldn't have to get out of your seat in order to get all of this information. As for the accident, state of Michigan does not require a vehicle to move over if there is an emergency vehicle on the shoulder. They must slow down or move over. The only person that was responsible for the accident was the party not paying attention to what was going on.
I drove 25 years I would not consider it again even if I could but that 25 years caused me to get some health problems so all I can say is that yall are amazing people to put up with the shit yall do today happy trails
The kicker is when he asked how long the camper has been in the ditch and the driver told him it just happened, he didn’t go immediately check on the wrecked vehicle. He’d rather see the guys log book.
Or maybe just maybe. Look at it from his perspective. Or that if you wouldn't have been speeding he wouldn't have needed to be there having you pulled over. Everyone always wants to blame blame blame everyone else but themselves.
I am a retired street cop of 30 years. The traffic cops, guys that liked to write tickets, were rarely good street cops. They enforced the LETTER OF THE LAW instead of the preferred SPIRIT OF THE LAW! It is new thing to stop a guy for a violation, but to waste all that time looking for every piece of paper, is piling on chickenshit. Original stop for 65 and 66 mph, omg! I am embarrassed.
operationCDL
I am going to look at this from a couple ways. As a retired OTR driver over 25 years with 4 million SAFETY miles, and as a trained and former DOT Officer from my home state. Yes you can be on both sides of the GAME!!!!
DRIVER SIDE: THE 30 minutes violation, you stated weather caused it, DOT regs state as we ALL know you can have up to 2 extra driving hours because of bad weather, you are to note the weather overage on the comment line section of your log book. I don't know if your system allows you to make comments or not, but you explained it to him and you should NOT receive a ticket for that. SPEEDING he got you for 6 over the posted in MI. Take the speeding ticket and GO TO COURT, the judge WILL throw it out. MI is in VIOLATION OF FED REGS on speed limits. NO SPLIT SPEEDS FOR TRUCKS.
You ARE required to have a log book in case the computer book goes down. You did. All good.
You should keep your current Med Card handy and destroy expired cards. He looked upset about that.
COP SIDE: You were speeding, 6 over, he is allowed to pull you and ticket you, if he does its a dick move. UNLESS HE IS DOT CERTIFIED he can not look at your log book. ALWAYS ASK IF THEY ARE. A lot of states are training State Police/ Highway Patrol in log book regs and issue a card with date of training. Check date on card to see if he is current on regs.
He CAN PULL YOU OVER ANYWHERE. However his line about cars doing 80mph, is bullshit. If that is the case, pull the cars over for speeding and ticket them!!!!
His NOT KNOWING HOW LONG AGO THE VEHICLE WENT INTO THE DIVIDER, that is really bad situational awareness and shows he is not the sharpest tool in the shed!!!!
HE gave you a copy of the report to turn in and return to the state. THAT REPORT PUTS HIS ASS AT THE SCENE!!!! HE IS NOT TRYING TO AVOID BEING PLACED AT THE SCENE!!! YOU HAVE TO LOG THE TIME ON THE SHOULDER GETTING CHECKED OUT. On paper logs you would put in comment section the following: time you went on-duty not driving and time you went back on-duty driving (line 4) in comments section it will read pulled over by MSP, milemarker???, hwy ????, direction of travel, and why stopped.
He has to log the info as well. I guarantee there is radio verification of the time of stop and the plate number of the trailer you are pulling and description of the truck, then there is time he released you called into dispatch showing his unit clear. ALL LE does this. If he ran your license that will show up as well!!!
There is NOTHING other than you saying so on a UA-cam video the officer is trying to hide his presence at the scene!!!!!
Drivers like you give cops a BAD REPUTATION that they DO NOT DESERVE!!!! YOU HAVE A JOB, HE HAS A JOB!!!! YOU DO YOUR JOB,WITHOUT BREAKING THE LAW, AND YOU WON'T SEE A POLICE OFFICER DOING HIS!!!!!
Awesome you tell that steering wheel holder with the blame game attitude
Glen MacDonald
I have been called a lot of things in my life. Some good, some not so good. I have never been called a steering wheel holder.
It is too bad you don't actually know what the hell you are talking about. I'm about as far from a steering wheel holder than you will ever see.
Officer Dick Ryder reporting for duty. I have a lot of respect for the police but this guy is an exception.
The reason for the camper going in the ditch was not the highway patrol it was the jackass that got pulled over for speeding fault just because you drive a big rig doesn't give you no more rights on the road than any other driver. Truckers say give us space we can't stop on a dime yet they have no problem riding someone's ass or merging and forcing cars off the road. Being a trucker means having double standards.
the person in the camper is post to be in control at all times so the person that is driving the camper cousied it own accent and not the state tropper was doing his job pulling u over for speeding
Genius if he is in an accident you call the company #1 their truck and driver was in an accident and #2 tell them that you need a read out of his electronic log. Gives good cops a bad name.
Don't speed and you won't be putting other motorist at risk. You put that camper in the ditch when you were caught speeding.
Not the officer’s fault if drivers can’t control their vehicles when traffic is slowing. Also, he is not Mich State Police, but a Motor Carrier Officer. In Michigan there is a difference.
He SAID he was "Michigan State Police". 2:14
He didn't say anything about any difference.
You’re right, he did say that. I think Motor Carrier Officers must be a division of the State Police. I know they do have to go to the same police academy in Lansing, but 30 years ago, they were not quite the same. Motor Carrier officers could not pull over automobiles unless there was good evidence of someone driving under the influence. Then they could pull you over and sit and wait for an MSP officer to arrive to write the ticket. But perhaps things are different now.
Wrong my friend the officer didn’t cause the accident, YOU CAUSED THE ACCIDENT BY SPEEDING IN THE FIRST PLACE. Don’t pass the blame for your wrongdoing.
I checked you at 65 and again at 66, but he never said what the speed limit was. What was the speed limit?
Michigan highways are 65 mph. MSP is a clown show
He shouldn't of been speeding and kept his permit book organized so he knows exactly where what's at then not even knowing what the hos instruction sheet is... 😑 I got an inspection done today in under 25 minutes and it took damn near that long for him just to find everything... no speeding= No inspection= no accident more than likely...
This is exactly why i got out of it. And i have never looked back with regret.
There is no reason you couldn't have gone another couple hundred feet and pulled over on the exit ramp, OUT OF TRAFFIC.