Love the video Joel! Thanks for visiting our booth and telling our story! You're 100% correct, that bust isn't the best it could be! To make as many 3D scans as possible during the 48hrs of the con we sped up our production dramatically, which sacrificed print quality. If folks watching this video are interested in seeing more videos of the Orchard in action make sure to follow our company on Twitter or IG!
I agree with the quality, I was one of the folks at the con that paid for the scanning/printing of my face. Although it wasn't a quality print I would have thought it would be, it was still fun and cool to see. I wish you would have given the option to send via email an STL of my scanned face so I could print it at home.
@@Bearded_Blonde Thank you so much for stopping by! we can absolutely do that! A few people asked and we have been emailing them out. Can you send us a DM of social media or use the contact form on our website to send us your email so we can share the STL?
Joel, as you said, this is a great concept. Not for everyone, but for schools or other specific environments a great idea. Please keep us posted on what they are doing,
A good chunk of the video I was thinking "Okay, but... What makes this different from an actual print farm?" And then modularity was introduced and things just clicked, lmao
this is a hard sell seeing how these probably cost as much if not more than creality per printer, but I also get that they are trying to sell a platform (IE software makes it easy to push prints to multiple printers). I just hope they have thought about ease of repair/adjusting since these are being sold to stores with employees that are probably not skilled. From what I see the print quality doesn't look great yet either (even some of the benchy's mid-print were having issues).
That is a great idea for applications such as that art store. Or studios/schools where basic 3D design is being learned. I’m sure they will continue to refine these machines. But for places with limited space and or power, one machine that can do 14 different projects at once is a better solution than 14 different machines. This is obviously not for individuals. It’s for makerspaces that encourage learning and making. Thing is these spaces could use this for prototyping then the final product on a machine that can produce higher quality.
@@JustTechGuyThings you dont have to heat the bed on a 3d printer, so it actually doesn't save power and it is also less versatile because it has no heated bed
Thanks for another fun and informative video! Great running into you at OC Maker Faire this weekend, and thanks for the in person high-5s. Don't forget what I told you about putting stable diffusion on your machine. I think you and your kids are going to have a blast. I don't know if you are planning on putting more videos from Adams convention, but I'd love to see more about what was going on there. Even non 3D printer stuff. Maybe you could put it on your other channel.
Amazing video good sir ! It’s great to see you bring into light an amazing idea and give such positive encouragement on a fresh idea even thou it’s still rough around the edges . Great endorsement ! ❤️🙏🏻 we are all one
Awesome video and excellent point: it's a stepping stone and a way to get an idea going. It's not for everyone, but not everything can be. Given they've started out, I wonder what it will look like next year.
yoooo that convention sounds really fun!! I got some nifty 3D printed cosplay ideas, and if my Voron 2.4 ever happens, who knows what it'll end up being.
The build plates mounted at an angle effect overhang. I wonder if they use a special slicer that takes care of this. That could be a cause for the low quality in the face of the print. Just mounting the printers flat could take care of that.
Ok, so you know how my mind works… I see this and I’m already spinning off in 15 different directions… Like picture this in a mall cart location.. each printer has a touch screen and Token collector. Kids can scroll thru what they want to print from pre-defined objects, put in a token and watch as their toy gets made then pops out a little chute. Like a gum all machine, but you choose and make the toy…
Fun fact: we built the Orchard to have a 4' x 6' footprint so it fits on a folding table or kiosk in a mall! if you know a great location to set up one of the ideas you propose shoot us a message!
Speaking of plastic recycling, Joel, would you do a video on DIY plastic bottle filament extruders such as those demonstrated by UA-camrs mr3dp and JRT3D with the Recreator?
@@dtylerb the only thing i can see being beneficial is unified power supply and having only one serial connection though you can just "hire" someone to setup octopi for you
I wasn't seeing any benefit vs throwing some cheap printers on a shelf but, I guess if you could get a filament extruder and recycler on the same machine that then feeds straight to the printer you could have an all in one machine that can deploy anywhere. Still not seeing a benefit over independent machines, I'm also not the target demographic though.
maybe more will be explained by the time the video is finished(half way) but... why choose this instead of multiple small printers? like what is the pros of using this?
@@mdrew44628 I’d defer to the creator - those are some of his selling points and pros he spoke to in the video. He seems like a nice guy - I’m sure he’d be more than happy to give a rundown and even provide some specs or why getting this in one unit makes more sense cost or otherwise than a bunch of small separate printers.
It's a shame printing takes the time it does, there's only so much you can do at a show. Wouldn't it be cool if you could scan someone then print a figure of them while they wait?
HIII ive been watching your channel for a good while and i came to the conclusion i wanted a 3d printer for my 14th birthday. So i thought the ender 3 v2 neo would be a good option but i want to know everything about it, so could you please make a review on it? its a pretty new model too
Yeah, let's be blunt. The referenced printed model is not good at all. And for something you'd want at home or office, no, this is not it. And I appreciate Joel being kind because his opinion does carry weight in this community. What I think is at stake here is that the idea of a stripped down, modular approach to print farming. It does print; the concept is proven. And it approaches it with low-fi solutions (e.g. multiple COM ports) which work and doesn't demand new tooling or esoteric components. And having problems with one unit doesn't bring the whole thing down to repair time. I know Itemfarm said they would then look at plastic recycling then CNC, but right now, they should be focusing on making the printing faster and better quality. They can partner with other ventures, selling the modular snap-in concept. So I think once they have the necessary improvements added, then yes, this should be the 3D printing community's One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) concept.
I must admit that I fail to understand the niche you're trying to fill. Basically from what I understand (at least at the moment) it's a frame that holds ender 3s and a USB Hub. (I know those are not E3s, that's juat figuratively to point out that I fail to see any synergies between the printer units or power supply) Also, I fail to understand how that rack is anything more suitable for solar power than an E3 Now I'm genuinely not trying to give you flak, I want to understand where the business proposition lies here and what a customer gets from the orchard (despite the looks and the slightly reduced room requirements due to the stacking) over just buying 14 Ender 3s?
frankly i dont think it make sense to build a machine that is basically a bunch of 3d printers mounted on a weird looking rack. it doesn't save any cost... maybe the controller is shared for all the printers... ultimately there is nothing special about it.
So basically worse than an ender 3 and terrible print quality. Im all for people being creative but lets be real here sometimes people do come up with useless inventions... this is one of them.
It definitely has its place if PLA is okay. Realistically if this is intended for areas with intermittent power or underdeveloped nations, they probably need to make functional parts. As these will likely need to be either food-safe and/or UV resistant, you need a machine with heated bed, heated enclosure, and higher performance hotend. This is not an inexpensive or low power machine. It's an unfortunate catch-22.
The use case for this printer makes sense given the constraints (cost, space, power, pure accessibility, etc). Might not be what you’d want or what you’d design to solve the same problem but this product is a solution to a problem that exists; to me that’s the point I see in the product.
@@seanmcne do you know the cost or are you just shooting from the hip. This machine saves no power......99% of the power used for FDM is stepper motors and heating.....this machine offers no benefit over 14 individual 3D printers in that regard.
@@mdrew44628 I’ve got the same info you do 😀 I watched the video and listened to the guy who built it. You have a different perspective than me (questioning his product and providing criticism), I’m choosing to look at it from the perspective of assuming he has good intent and his points are valid (I have no reason to doubt). He has invested his time and money to create, what he says, is more power efficient. And/or it’s more cost effective at providing an experience to kids learning in a retail space.
@@seanmcne stay away from swamp salesmen. I tend to require hard facts. When someone says that a product will use less power, but doesn't say how much and also provides no target price, I usually find there is something to hide.
Love the video Joel! Thanks for visiting our booth and telling our story! You're 100% correct, that bust isn't the best it could be! To make as many 3D scans as possible during the 48hrs of the con we sped up our production dramatically, which sacrificed print quality. If folks watching this video are interested in seeing more videos of the Orchard in action make sure to follow our company on Twitter or IG!
I agree with the quality, I was one of the folks at the con that paid for the scanning/printing of my face. Although it wasn't a quality print I would have thought it would be, it was still fun and cool to see. I wish you would have given the option to send via email an STL of my scanned face so I could print it at home.
@@Bearded_Blonde Thank you so much for stopping by! we can absolutely do that! A few people asked and we have been emailing them out. Can you send us a DM of social media or use the contact form on our website to send us your email so we can share the STL?
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Love Alder's Orchard concept! I can’t wait to see what the Orchard “grows” into!
Finally a machine that can keep up with your filament purchases! LOL
Joel, as you said, this is a great concept. Not for everyone, but for schools or other specific environments a great idea. Please keep us posted on what they are doing,
Agreed. This could be amazing for schools!!
very cool, loved the modularity of it! Wish I had known about them, I was JUST in San Jose a couple of weeks back!
I am in love with the idea of this store. Anything that supports art and education I am on board!
A good chunk of the video I was thinking "Okay, but... What makes this different from an actual print farm?"
And then modularity was introduced and things just clicked, lmao
It also look a fair amount more dense - I don't think you could fit 14 typical 3d printers in that kinda space.
@@dylanevans5644 on the negative side those are quite small printers, which isn't an issue per se, but neither it is something to ignore
As someone building makerspace environments for schools i am very interested in this concept! Keep us posted Joel!
this is a hard sell seeing how these probably cost as much if not more than creality per printer, but I also get that they are trying to sell a platform (IE software makes it easy to push prints to multiple printers). I just hope they have thought about ease of repair/adjusting since these are being sold to stores with employees that are probably not skilled. From what I see the print quality doesn't look great yet either (even some of the benchy's mid-print were having issues).
Well they will swap a unit i think
Also good to remember it was not that long ago that hone printers were expensive and poor quality
It was great meeting you and David at OC Maker Faire today (well, yesterday given how late it now is). I look forward to seeing the video.
Farscape. One of the best Sci-Fi series ever made.
That is a great idea for applications such as that art store. Or studios/schools where basic 3D design is being learned. I’m sure they will continue to refine these machines. But for places with limited space and or power, one machine that can do 14 different projects at once is a better solution than 14 different machines.
This is obviously not for individuals. It’s for makerspaces that encourage learning and making. Thing is these spaces could use this for prototyping then the final product on a machine that can produce higher quality.
99% of the power used in FDM is heating and stepper motors. This contraption will use as much power as 14 separate 3D printers.
@@mdrew44628 yes but less space
@@mdrew44628 There's no heated plate.... that's a massive power and temp savings.
@@JustTechGuyThings you dont have to heat the bed on a 3d printer, so it actually doesn't save power and it is also less versatile because it has no heated bed
@@JustTechGuyThings true, but it's not that big of a saving either
Thanks for another fun and informative video! Great running into you at OC Maker Faire this weekend, and thanks for the in person high-5s. Don't forget what I told you about putting stable diffusion on your machine. I think you and your kids are going to have a blast.
I don't know if you are planning on putting more videos from Adams convention, but I'd love to see more about what was going on there. Even non 3D printer stuff. Maybe you could put it on your other channel.
I loved Gigi in Farscape!
Amazing video good sir ! It’s great to see you bring into light an amazing idea and give such positive encouragement on a fresh idea even thou it’s still rough around the edges . Great endorsement ! ❤️🙏🏻 we are all one
Awesome video and excellent point: it's a stepping stone and a way to get an idea going. It's not for everyone, but not everything can be. Given they've started out, I wonder what it will look like next year.
yoooo that convention sounds really fun!! I got some nifty 3D printed cosplay ideas, and if my Voron 2.4 ever happens, who knows what it'll end up being.
The build plates mounted at an angle effect overhang. I wonder if they use a special slicer that takes care of this. That could be a cause for the low quality in the face of the print. Just mounting the printers flat could take care of that.
I think for the use case 'teaching 3D printing' it is perfect
Ok, so you know how my mind works… I see this and I’m already spinning off in 15 different directions…
Like picture this in a mall cart location.. each printer has a touch screen and Token collector. Kids can scroll thru what they want to print from pre-defined objects, put in a token and watch as their toy gets made then pops out a little chute. Like a gum all machine, but you choose and make the toy…
Fun fact: we built the Orchard to have a 4' x 6' footprint so it fits on a folding table or kiosk in a mall! if you know a great location to set up one of the ideas you propose shoot us a message!
Speaking of plastic recycling, Joel, would you do a video on DIY plastic bottle filament extruders such as those demonstrated by UA-camrs mr3dp and JRT3D with the Recreator?
Great video. Always showing the bleeding edge. Mahalo for sharing! 🙂🐒
I appreciate learning from your videos, Joel!
I appreciate you learning from them :)
@6:01 dudes face when Joel points out the lack of a heated build plate🤣🤣🤣
what's the difference with this and lets say 10 separate ender 2 pros or prusa minis on a shelf with their heat bed turned off?
@@dtylerb the only thing i can see being beneficial is unified power supply and having only one serial connection
though you can just "hire" someone to setup octopi for you
I wasn't seeing any benefit vs throwing some cheap printers on a shelf but, I guess if you could get a filament extruder and recycler on the same machine that then feeds straight to the printer you could have an all in one machine that can deploy anywhere. Still not seeing a benefit over independent machines, I'm also not the target demographic though.
Man, all kinda regret as everyone it seems was "in my back yard" (my town). Sounded fun. One of these days.
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Would have loved to hear some more about your encounter with Gigi Edgley, great fan of her in Farscape, which didn't get the exposure it deserves.
i love this project idea
Love the mission. Keep it up.
Watching this video while at work finishing Xometry orders, and I was like, HEY! I might actually make your order! 😁 #dreamjob
I like gigi. I get to see her every year at Dr who convention gallifrya one.
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Appreciate it!
Hmmmm, seems that a printer designed to be used in areas with little infrastructure would have a rock solid method of resuming after power loss.
maybe more will be explained by the time the video is finished(half way) but... why choose this instead of multiple small printers? like what is the pros of using this?
Cost and power consumption?
@@seanmcne what are the specs for power supply requirements and consumption?
@@mdrew44628 I’d defer to the creator - those are some of his selling points and pros he spoke to in the video. He seems like a nice guy - I’m sure he’d be more than happy to give a rundown and even provide some specs or why getting this in one unit makes more sense cost or otherwise than a bunch of small separate printers.
@@seanmcne too bad he didn't get into all that in the video.......
It's a shame printing takes the time it does, there's only so much you can do at a show. Wouldn't it be cool if you could scan someone then print a figure of them while they wait?
That's exactly what we were doing at the con! A quick 30 second scan and people *LOVED* seeing their busts get made right in front of them.
HIII ive been watching your channel for a good while and i came to the conclusion i wanted a 3d printer for my 14th birthday. So i thought the ender 3 v2 neo would be a good option but i want to know everything about it, so could you please make a review on it? its a pretty new model too
The Enders seem to be quite similar to each other.(there are a Lot of Versions...) Maybe some other Person hast a review Up.
Ah thanks Michel, i did just see a video about CHEP reviewing it so yeah thanks :)
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When I tried to apply the promo code it took off $0. Are there certain conditions where it will work?
Hi Gabriel, it's Aaron from Xometry. Code should be working correctly - if you have any other issues, let me know!
Hey buddy, JUst anted to tell you that. If you make longer videos im sure 90% of your subs ill stay and watch
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This doesn't make sense to me and I like it.
Very cool con. I'm surprised I never heard Adam mention it.
Yeah, let's be blunt. The referenced printed model is not good at all. And for something you'd want at home or office, no, this is not it. And I appreciate Joel being kind because his opinion does carry weight in this community.
What I think is at stake here is that the idea of a stripped down, modular approach to print farming. It does print; the concept is proven. And it approaches it with low-fi solutions (e.g. multiple COM ports) which work and doesn't demand new tooling or esoteric components. And having problems with one unit doesn't bring the whole thing down to repair time. I know Itemfarm said they would then look at plastic recycling then CNC, but right now, they should be focusing on making the printing faster and better quality. They can partner with other ventures, selling the modular snap-in concept. So I think once they have the necessary improvements added, then yes, this should be the 3D printing community's One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) concept.
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Yeah, your little diatribe at the end defending this doesn't negate the fact that this is a solution (and a lousy one at that) without a problem.
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ehhh - better to get8 small prusa - better - proven - etc...
meh.... youd be better of with a shelf full of enders, or whatever your printer of choice is. A shelf is far more modular, and customizable.
I must admit that I fail to understand the niche you're trying to fill. Basically from what I understand (at least at the moment) it's a frame that holds ender 3s and a USB Hub.
(I know those are not E3s, that's juat figuratively to point out that I fail to see any synergies between the printer units or power supply)
Also, I fail to understand how that rack is anything more suitable for solar power than an E3
Now I'm genuinely not trying to give you flak, I want to understand where the business proposition lies here and what a customer gets from the orchard (despite the looks and the slightly reduced room requirements due to the stacking) over just buying 14 Ender 3s?
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Thank you!
frankly i dont think it make sense to build a machine that is basically a bunch of 3d printers mounted on a weird looking rack. it doesn't save any cost... maybe the controller is shared for all the printers... ultimately there is nothing special about it.
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No mention of open air 3d printing or air filtration. 'How dare you!'
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So basically worse than an ender 3 and terrible print quality. Im all for people being creative but lets be real here sometimes people do come up with useless inventions... this is one of them.
Sorry, I really don't see the point. Just a bunch of 3D printers without heated beds and inaccurate xyz positioning.
It definitely has its place if PLA is okay. Realistically if this is intended for areas with intermittent power or underdeveloped nations, they probably need to make functional parts. As these will likely need to be either food-safe and/or UV resistant, you need a machine with heated bed, heated enclosure, and higher performance hotend. This is not an inexpensive or low power machine. It's an unfortunate catch-22.
The use case for this printer makes sense given the constraints (cost, space, power, pure accessibility, etc). Might not be what you’d want or what you’d design to solve the same problem but this product is a solution to a problem that exists; to me that’s the point I see in the product.
@@seanmcne do you know the cost or are you just shooting from the hip. This machine saves no power......99% of the power used for FDM is stepper motors and heating.....this machine offers no benefit over 14 individual 3D printers in that regard.
@@mdrew44628 I’ve got the same info you do 😀 I watched the video and listened to the guy who built it. You have a different perspective than me (questioning his product and providing criticism), I’m choosing to look at it from the perspective of assuming he has good intent and his points are valid (I have no reason to doubt). He has invested his time and money to create, what he says, is more power efficient. And/or it’s more cost effective at providing an experience to kids learning in a retail space.
@@seanmcne stay away from swamp salesmen. I tend to require hard facts. When someone says that a product will use less power, but doesn't say how much and also provides no target price, I usually find there is something to hide.
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@Joel Telling can i ask for your email add so that we can send and you an invite..coz we need a consultant maybe your're interested