Living with the long range Hyundai IONIQ 6!
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2023
- MotoMan is back behind the wheel of the 2023 @WorldCarTVCar of the Year, the @hyundai IONIQ 6. This time, he goes basic but long range with the 361 mile @HyundaiMotorGroup IONIQ 6 SE. Over 10 days, he learns the good, the bad and the ugly of this 225 HP, RWD sedan as well as something unexpected about the overall EV market & economy!
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We just leased a 2024 Ioniq 6 and in addition to the $7,500 US EV tax break and a $500 Military discount they are giving buyers a free Level 2 home charger and up to $600 allowance for installation. Oh, and 2 years free Electrify America charging as well.
400 miles driving like a new yorker is very impressive
Great review! Wow close to 400 mi...impressive. 👍🏽
I just got one as a lease. Still at the dealership getting window tint done. Im excited this is my 4th hyundai and of course 1st ev
I had a door handle break on a super reliable 2003 Tacoma. The door handles on the Ioniq 5 work just fine in actual use. We’ve had no issues with level 2 charging or the 12v battery with our Ioniq 5 which is getting close to two years old.
I have driven them all with the retractable door handles and more often than not they fail in my time with them. Key point on this: The cars I drive are brand new . . .
@@MotoManTVprobably journalist models that are "new" but driven thousands of times and treated like a rental.
I bought the SEL model and replaced the 20" rims with 18" light weight EV rims and tires. I am now getting 370 miles. The SE comes with 18".
I’m doing a living with at month #7 and by far the easiest part is charging at home. The issue with the level 2 appears to be temperature related and stopping or slowing the charge especially when charging at 48A which you need a direct wired unit to reach. I use a plugged in unit so I’m limited to a 50A breaker and 40A setting (9.2kW) of delivery that returned 200 miles of range last night in 6.5 hours without issue in our 2023 AWD IONIQ 5 Limited. The door handles I rather like but on occasion I’ve had to touch the handle gently to have it present. Our last vehicle behind the handle bowl had more scratches than any piano back interior bits get so there could be a positive here. I love the 6 over the 5 for its aerodynamic mileage. It’s charges as fast but goes further as shown in Edmunds ranking. My concern was H-Point to Head which in a Limited was snug in the rear at 6’. Maybe skipping the retractable would help. My wife’s analysis was over in five minutes. She simply liked the open cabin space vs a cockpit coup feel. She drives it daily so that’s the rest of the story. Now that we know that DCFC 800V is not a thing on even the latest Elon invention we can expect that at Superchargers as soon as the Roadster shows up.😉 So the DCFC advantage Porsche, Hyundai, Genesis, KIA and Lucid all have will need that OEM Charging group to deliver on their charging priority because it’s certainly not within their competitions prerogative or purview. 18:13
Thanks for the great, real world feedback, Gary.
This and the lucid are like a modern day Citroen DS.
The door handle thing is also about someone being able to get you out of the car quickly in an emergency without having to read a user manual to figure it out.
I also don't care for pop out door handles on all cars the difference in drag would likely be very small and in low speed and city driving would have zero effect. We have an Ioniq 5 with 36k miles on it and have never had the L2 charging problem yet. Another video the guy used a small bore brush to clean the terminals on his car and charger and that stopped his port overheating and slowing down so for some people that may be all it needs.
i really like the way you review. its not a history lesson, its not the basic stuff anyone tells. its good, relatable information. Subscirbed :)
just leased mine and will pick it up tomorrow :)
The door handle you want was invented by Subaru for the 1985 XT (Alcyone). It has a simple mechanical flap that makes the handle flush until you push your fingers into it, then it’s a normal door handle until the door is shut again. The XT had a Cd of 0.29.
Not a Subaru guy but loved that car!
Place the door handle vertically on the trailing edge of the door and leave a finger-width gap to pull the door from the edge.
I like how you had it side by side to a Porsche at the charging station to compare the front end.
A bit behind the scenes . . . that was at an Aston Martin dealership.
As for the door handles. I think the new bmw i4 ev does it best. smooth at the top but you can grip it from underneath. 10:46
Agreed.
Was kinda "forced" to test drive this car in AWD. Had to test the Polestar 2 and the Model 3 after that for comparison (cumbustion engine car only driver for 30+ years)
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hope to get the Ioniq 6 delivered in 2 weeks. Decision for EV was a no-brainer, the driving experience is second to none. Even DCT doesn't allow such a smooth ride on combustion engine cars (I was, up to now, a convinced manual shifter). Decision for the Ioniq 6 was easy, too: quietness and built quality put Tesla and Polestar to shame. And to be honest, also driving experience.
Good insight.
I bet having recessed door handles should be more aerodynamic than having the handles handles protrude from the door. That would be a nice compromise to flushed handles.
I’m actually impressed by these. I really like the rear end styling (reminds me of a Saab or something), but the front end seems pretty plain and frumpy. After a slight refresh, these seem like they’ll look really dated. Random question for you: what shoes are those? I really like them!
Funny, I think just the opposite. The front has an 'angry porche' feel. The rear on the other hand, feels like 3 different designers crammed their design in. There is a 'bottom half', then the mixmatched horizontal light bar, then that glomped on black fin. Ugh...
7:43 "a $35,000 Geely"😂
Yep, it will be a hit!
Have we oversold the ev promise …considerable r buying their second or third car ice or hybrids after buying n ev
Re leasing EVs. It seems like the smart way to go. Look at the ID4. The 2024 is going to add 86hp to the RWD, a larger main screen, changed the weird shifter and overhauled the software and the hardware running the system. It's going to make the previous yrs of the ID4 very undesirable.
Hey there,
Been watching for a really long time and have a video idea. Would love if you had an expert in electric vehicles on to discuss where the technology will be in a certain number of years (methods of reducing drag, materials of batteries, charging, charging infrastructure, etc.). Please let me know your thoughts on this idea, or if it has been done already.
Great idea . . . so much so you will be seeing an interview with the Founder and CEO of Yasa shortly (yasa.com/technology/)
@@MotoManTV Thats some funny timing. Looking forward to seeing their pov on these topics.
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I own a 2023 Ioniq 6, long range 20' wheels rear wheel drive window sticker says 305 miles per charge. Driven about 2400 miles. The most I've seen is 287 miles per charge info screen. Level 2 charger, 240v 40 watts. Why am I only getting 287 miles per charge. Can the dealership help me, if not who?
It depends on your driving style , weather and road terrain (hills). I have the same model RWD 6 limited 20" wheels. We purchased our in Nov. and mileage is at a little over 12,000mile now. Live in Cali. My daily commute is 65 miles one way, at night (head lights) , its Cali. winter so the heater is at 70°. I my speed is about 70-80 mph. My average per charge is between 290-275. One week in Feb. the weather was warm enough where i didn't use the heater , just the fan in #1 setting. it charged to a whapping 325 miles I was averaging 4.2 miles per kWh
"Ioniq 5 N is unusually good" ... now I'm curious!
In my opinion EVs should be exchangeable when you are out of battery (on a long drive) go to nearest "exchange" and swap your car with another on, for now at least.
Ok, a few points to cover.
1. these modern door handles are horrible. it´s a bad idea that hopefully will just go out soon cause makes you mad. i checked new CH-R the other day and i would not buy that car for a few reasons, one of them the freaking door handles which are an item destined to fail.
2. The 12v battery issue is a recurrent fail in hyundai products and i have direct experience with it. My ioniqPHEV when it was 2 years old more or less one day the battery just stop working.. and i mean... no lights in the panel, nothing at all. i search a bit and it seems to happen often. The other day i even thought into changing the current battery just in case and it ain´t fun when that´s in your mind and you are 1000km outside home.
3. ioniq6 all the way when it comes to choose between it and the 5. i love the 5 but no way i choose it over the 6.
4. N6 will be great if it´s lighter and with all the N features. it may be the first EV that could compare with the taycan.
5. the pace of change in batteries with all the new advancements in LFP and the increasing deposits of lithium being found... well, not sure what will happen but hopefully prices will go down.
I think the doggie door handle would become a catch basin.
If it's oriented vertically. I assume he meant horizontally like most door handles are now
Can you go around 400 miles even though it is listed at an estimated 361 miles ?
Depends on how you drive. 😂
Even saying hi to someone here in the US can be a lawsuit.
I’m looking forward to seeing more not-super-heavy EV options on the market. I used to have a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus, and that car was surprisingly nimble. Turns out it “only” weighed about 3,550 pounds. They don’t sell that one anymore, unfortunately; it’s been replaced by what Tesla calls the RWD model 3, with a heavier LFP battery (and a weaker motor) that weighs around 400 pounds more.
I’m tempted by the EX30 but I’m also more of a sedan person. I would be delighted if the Ioniq 6N turns out to be around 3,600 pounds. Then the only remaining question would be whether I’d fit in it. At 6'5" I generally don’t fit in sedans with moonroofs or sunroofs (not sure what the difference is) that open. (I prefer glass roofs for the extra headroom they enable. I even fit in my Model 3 with a helmet on!)
My Mustang GT goes 340 on a roadtrip (highway). 🤷♂️
Had my Ultimate version (fully spec'd) in the UK since August going from a Tesla Model S. I want to say it's amazing but sadly I can't - it just has too many flaws to say that. For example, no 'walk away lock' - what? Seriously, it can recognize you approach but not that you've left? What's the big deal I hear you ask? Well, unlike the model S, which retracts its door handles after a short while even if unlocked, this car leaves them popped out, indicating to any would-be thief that the car is wide open.
If you ever get a hint of frost, every single safety feature stops working. Like, nothing works - and you get the endless beeping of the car telling you so. PING 'Front camera obscured, parking safety disabled' PING...'rear sensors obscured, parking safety disabled' PING 'more and more PING PING PING PING
Also, the smallest of the smallest cars here have front fog lights - none here.
And while we are talking about lights, again, a whiff of frost and your front lights are useless - so you need to go and clean the frost off them to get any light output when driving at night.
The software? Not great. My so called free over the air updates didn't happen so I stupidly thought I would be able to just plug in the downloaded software on the USB. This process in itself took WAAAY longer than it should - first you download the app that allows you to download the update, then it has to decode the software, and then, here's the kicker, you can't just plug the usb key in and leave it to do it's thing - no sir, you need to stay in the car (which is now non-functional), with the 'ignition' on, and wait for the software update to run. One hour. Just sitting there, unable to leave.
While the USA was given the option to add the digital key, the EU wasn't authorized until the new Kona. Now what I don't get - why the heck did they not offer the 'at time of purchase' option that could have been enabled once regulatory framework was approved? And then Hyundai go on about using the app to 'share your car' - for what? You can share the car with another user but they can't drive it without having the key, so what's the point? If it is just to open the car, you can do that yourself remotely and lock it remotely also.
Speaking about the app - how great it is to be able to start the heater on cold days...provided you don't mind waking the neighbors as the alarm is so sensitive, it goes off due to the heaters. I assumed it was because I had the 'enhanced alarm' settings switched on - but no, it does the same thing after I disabled it. So now, I only start the heater two minutes before I go to the car - enough to JUST start the deicing process, but not long enough to get the alarm triggered.
These are just some of the niggles I have had.
Would I buy it again? I don't think so. They guys at Hyundai just haven't thought it through, or indeed maybe driven the car long enough on a daily basis to see what the issues are with it. Their software sucks, and I wonder what functionality will remain once my free trail of their connected software is done - will I lose access to see if my alarm is going off or the ability to remote unlock/lock the car? Who knows. I may not keep the car long enough to find out though. I should have gone with the Lexus RZ.
Hyundai Kia are the new Toyota Honda
에어콘필터 위치가 부족해서 비오는 날에는 물이 들어온다고 합니다. 불량은 아니라고 하네요.
즉 설계불량입니다. 이건은 개선 되어야 합니다.
Lease update: Hyundai now has $239, zero down for 24 months on the SE RWD on the east coast only sadly.
Leased one today, 2024 se long range. $300 down $300 a month with 2 years charging included.
Door handles? ‘70s AMC all the way.
Nothing to say about V2L? That’s half the reason I want a 5 or 6.
We covered it in the TECH REVIEW of this car as well that of the IONIQ 5. Soon you will see more and more OEMs offer this capability.
Hyundai's latest products are fantastic and are some of the best in the industry, in my opinion. However, the dealerships are complete trash and those dealerships still treat the brand in the same manner.
Definitely a weak point.
Rwd Tesla after rebates can be had for 28k that is the only way to go if you need most affordable ev
But not if you want quality…
@@Carrman2020 for the cheapest option you can’t really expect much
Colorado residents get $12,500 in combined tax credits. My neighbor just traded his Q8 for a base Model 3. He loved his Q8, but it was too expensive for his long commute. They did a cross-country road trip without any problems (but slower, of course).
I guess you never driven the EX30 if you think you can get similar range out of that brick.
Still waiting for the under $25k 2 door "lightweight" EV. Yes, I'm dreaming, but an old cheapskate can dream....
*starts 33 year old engine in the could no problem*
Isn't the Volvo a smaller vehicle? It better be lighter weight
Yes, shorter but taller.
@@MotoManTV btw since you mentioned it in this clip. Could you go into how it's possible to obtain a new car in this economy without debt? In a separate vid, or if you already did could you direct me to it? Thanks.
@@MotoManTV It’s amazing how many EV‘s I have to look up into the cabin of from my 2023 IONIQ 5’s driver seat. I’m not even sure how this just isn’t a taller sedan. Granted there’s 5% more of its weight above the daylight opening over the IONIQ 6, but given the ratio I don’t feel it because of its overall height.
What’s fascinating to see is the dealer lots slammed full of them that they can’t sell 😊
Deals to be made….but not my ‘cup of tea’, the EV….
I would not be in Eco with that range.
Too long for my apartment parking.
I think on the technology and marketing side, Hyundai and Kia are really killing it. As for design? I like that they are taking chances, but they end up doing too much adding many fussy design cues that aren't necessary imo. I just don't think many of these designs are going to hold up. With this car, it's the rear end that is a slave to design and basically ignores rear seat headroom and trunk room.
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Motoman, nobody is a fan of debt. 🙄
After leading many Financial Peace University classes at my church I have learned they may not like it, but the majority allow it in their lives.
@@MotoManTV because that's life Motoman.😏
@@2bunphettered788 And life is all about choices . . .
@@MotoManTV of which some are already made for those with little to none. ☹️
I am not sure how EV cars are the best for the environment. After some open-source research, you will find that lithium batteries, battery acid, and cells are more harmful than gas cars and there is no safe way to dispose of these batteries. Not to mention that not a single fire department will touch these cars when on fire nor do they respond to help occupants immediately if involved in collision due to high voltage. And, the rage is awful, when it's cold you will lose about 20-25% range, takes forever to charge, if you have electricity since California's power is always down and people are often in the dark, well, good luck. You better jump on your horse.
We spend A LOT of time talking about the realities of EV and the government mandates. You can see multiple episodes on this topic as well as related topics here: ua-cam.com/play/PLF6ek7dWy48p-HlfcvEbtBpAQAiaJaxEf.html
Whuut?
Just waiting on that Ioniq 6N news.
You and me both.
shame it looks so bad... would have been pretty trivial to not make that car look like arse, but they did it anyway
the trouble with EV's is there will be no used market for them and hence car companies love them...costs $35 grand to replace the battery in that ioniq...leasing makes sense so you can see how useless these things really are
this is why I laugh when the hardcore BEV adopters think that ICE companies don't want to build these. I think they absolutely want to build them. I think there are other reasons they're being slowed down.
Why would you replace the battery? Way less chance of that than an engine or transmission. What is the useless part?
Clueless dinosaur juice comment.
Fortunately I meet much more intelligent people at EV charging stations
Try driving it in freezing weather. The range will drop 30%. Miserable experience
I get 220 miles in current temperatures in my EV6 (300 in summer) - happy with that and charge at home overnight for about £7….
You need more than 240 miles of range per day? Where the hell are you going?
That seems a bit much since they have a heat pump. I would guess 25%. What is the miserable part?
@@gregkramer5588 I guess 25% is more accurate. They just perform as bad as gas /diesel engines in this regard, but some people like to point out.
If you happen to drive the Ioniq 6 with 20" wheels, you may opt for 18" winter tires and get back your lost miles.
@@ssm445yeah unlike numb nuts bringing up issues that happened to engines that were produced in the US and are longer produced…oh wait
There was a lot more ugly to discuss beyond the charging
The lease "deals" on these are still freaking terrible!! I keep getting offered $5000 down and $800+ a month for a $55k car!!!!
shame it looks like a Porsche from wish
Grille pain 🍞 🤮 🍞 👎👎