The Real Identity of the Man in Ogerpon's Story..
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Who is the man "from faraway" that brought Ogerpon here Tera Crystals all those years back? I went through the game and put every clue I could together! Make sure y'all SHANK that LIKE BUTTON!
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Who do you dudes think the "foreign man" with Ogerpon was? Make sure y'all SHANK that like button!
AZ ? 👀
Judging by the silhouette, it's Dr. Livesey
The First person i thought it could be callugaris, becouse the two parts of DLC are connected and tbe second part have to do with the Pokémon that callugaris saw (Terapagos, confirmed by Briar that Terapagos is the Pokémon saw by callugaris) but Callugaris is not so tall (in Scarlet/Violet book he is smaller than Cyclizar (1,6 m)
What if Kiki get slowly getting possessed by the dokutoro peach. So he's not crying because he lost, he's fighting against the dokutoro peach. In the last time we see Kiki talking, he's been fully possessed by the peach.🙀 Honestly that would be sick.
Ttar
All fun and games till we find out that the old man looked weird to the villagers cuz he looked futuristic. It's actually Ingo and after hisui he ends up in Kitakami
shhh you got me thinkin now bro 😭😭
@@litshadowmd1347 At some point after the ultimate weapon
AZ left kalos and along the way he met and bonded with ogrepon he lived in paldea for awhile then left to kitakami and then all that happens
He tried to recreate his bond with floette with another pokemon but it backfired
Shit hit the fan and he bailed was presumed dead and then at some point he went back to kalos
It’s close enough to paldea for this to work
AZ is the only one who would be that tall and fits the build
holy crap that actually sounds good. Also wraps up Ingo's story
man from future ogerpon from the past
@@madnessarcade7447 AZ would work! My original crackpot theory was that its a young Ghetsis and the loyal three are what later gave him his paralysis/defect to one half of his body.
I have this crackpot theory that the loyal 3 killed the man and dumped his body in the lake on oni mountain. The man had crystals on him that eventually grew from his corpse in the botom of the lake and expanded. Or instead of the loyal 3 dumping him, maybe ogrepon laid his body to rest in the lake like some funerals do.
Maybe, but does not make a whole lot of sense for them to leave behind the fourth mask in the cave though.
@@numbernumber25I think the reason they leave it there because they thought leaf mask is very weak, I mean they’re greedy Pokémon and they want something good but doesn’t see the greatest inside
@@dangdao8068 I mean they fought over the masks because they looked cool not necessarily because of the masks providing a fighting advantage. Even so I still think it does not make sense for them to fight over something, kill the person who owned said-thing, but leave one of said-thing because it was not cool enough.
And that probably why you can see dead people in there
And in some cases crystals can grow in water
What a lot of folk don't know about the Man is that he could be a reference when the Portuguese first arrived in Japan. Little historical reference for Ya.
Which conects Kitakami and Paldea in a full circle way.
Neat. I didn't know that.
And here I'd been theorizing that Ogerpon and her partner could've come from a land where oranges were first cultivated by people (Southern China/Northeast India/Myanmar) and that part of the dislike for Ogerpon came from the fact that so much of the village was based around apples. But I think drawing from real-world history here makes more sense, especially since Ogerpon looking like an orange isn't necessarily a part of the lore and could just be a fun stylistic choice
Like Setsuka in Soulcalibur, an orphan whose mother was a Portuguese immigrant, and then Setsuka was considered an outsider in her community as a half-Japanese woman.
Who is Ya?
@@nightowl7261 you, you are Ya.
Can you imagine how scary the Ogerpon Trainer’s death was? He was beaten up and badly poisoned. And they disposed of the body. How do you think the Loyal Three got rid of the body?
As for how Ogerpon killed the Loyal Three, she was overlevelled.
Rage boost+crits
i figure either okidogi ate him, or munkidori used his psychic powers to make him spontaneously combust (there seems to be a burnt spot in the middle of ogerpon's cave)
still not sure how ogerpon beat them the first time since they all were revived at lv70 and she was at lv70 after all those years
@@kaotic300 or it could just be a campfire spot lol
@@sckaze777 it could just be a campfire spot, but that's just not as dramatic lol
@@kaotic300 With how they disposed of the body, I'm sure that they burned him to ash with gasoline, hence the burnt spot.
As for how Ogerpon killed them, I'm sure that they were levelled up upon revival, and they were underleveled. Also, it doesn't seem like they had a fair fight in their lives, were caught off-guard, and weren't as driven to fight to the death as Ogerpon. Also, Ogerpon could've used Zen Headbutt and/or Stomping Tantrum.
My thought on the crystal pool at the top of the mountain was that it was caused by the fact that Tera Crystals were brought there by the man, and that they somehow “infected” that pool and they started growing there
Same thing. If the crystals from Paldea can 'leak out' into the surface it's probably because they spread easily, so maybe because the man and Ogerpon had crystals on them when they arrived in Kitakami, the crystals also started appearing everywhere because of it and eventually also formed Crystal Pool in the middle of the region pretty close to where they lived. Maybe they even placed crystals in the pool on purpose?
Ttar I’m pretty sure the part about the man “being ugly” is referencing the townspeople being… racist. It’s not about an injury or him being inhuman, these ancient people wouldn’t be used to seeing foreigners, and especially not foreign Pokémon. They shunned them because of typical xenophobia/racism.
* Cough cough * Carmine
@@deadlydingus1138 tbf not one other villager is xenophobic towards you in the slightest, not even arrrogant. Carmine is an outlier that even the villagers regularly point out
i thought what about az since paldea and kalos are next to eachother and the guy was tall and ugly and if connected to area zero maybe az had something to do with it since his event with his floette happened thousands of years ago
and when the events of ogerpon he left and went to kalos since it wasn't said the man died
@@user-ng7wk6eb7i I haven't seen the Kalos bit anywhere in game, maybe I missed it?
Where do I go to read that?
A member of Heath’s research team staying in a cave below the crystal lake in order to research it makes sense to me
Made me think of the king from 2000 years ago. Kinda like AZ from X&Y. Lost his empire to the four ruined Pokémon, so he up and went somewhere else in search of a new home with some crystals he could have acquired from the crater, as a keepsake from his homeland . Met ogerpon along the way and settled in kitakami due to the crystals in the pool, the treasure he sought in paldea. Not quite sure why or how he would live that long, but just popped into my head.
Isn't AZ immortal? Oh and I also had something to add to that. I think that area zero is actually the result of AZ's weapon landing in Paldea.
Az wasn't the cruel paldean king that fell to the ruiner 4 pretty sure
Maybe ogrepon's original trainer is one of the zombie npcs from the datamine. Carmine said that spirits of the dead were rumored to be seen around the crystal pool, it fits pretty nicely.
@@luissuazo3684 What part of their comment didn't you understand? 😂😂
@@GrammyDude22Understandable reaction tbh, I assume they didn't know about the datamine's yet and are like "wdym zombies???" Because that sure was my reaction when I read that the first time xD
The main game talks about how the king was obsessed with treasures right….you think Kieran is an example of that where he’s obsessed over ogrepon and being unable to have it has made me go crazy. The game has an overall theme of finding what is most important to you and I think that’s the connection to the main game.
If the old theory about Terapagos being some "dream granter" is correct, it could possible be that while in Area Zero, the man wished for a child and that wish was manifested as Ogerpon, who is essentially like a daughter to the man.
Wasn't there an entry in the scarlet and violet books that mentioned one of the expedition members being incredibly injured by one of the paradox pokemon there? Arvin's Mabostiff iirc was injured by one of the pokemon in area zero which needed all the herbal mysticas to heal. The injury and recovery of Mabostiff is interesting as well because essentially the pokemon was rapidly aging? Decaying? Due to lack of strength, eyesight, etc. And each sandwich recovered a piece of their body. Now, a wacky speculation moment, maybe the foreigner is the zombie man that's been datamined. The expedition member who was injured in area zero by a similar occurrence as Mabostiff and experienced the same sort of decaying process without the help of herba mysticas. It's very much out there but I do think Mabostiff's condition that had an entire storyline to fix is interesting to look at though, it's been a while so maybe my memory isn't exact.
The expedition member was "mortally wounded". That's the PG way of saying they died.
You may be onto something
I don't think anything says the man was ugly, just that he looked different from the villagers. It could have been simply a racial difference, as a lot about Kitakami's seems to reference how isolated Japan was for much of its history. It's also pretty uncertain if the man was killed. Like if he was then what happened to his body? Why was the teal mask not taken? Why did Ogerpon potentially go looking for him if he was dead?
Well if he lived then where did his living body go?
There IS the possibility that the man survived the battle, protecting the mask, but with mortal injuries, which is why he left the scene to die somewhere out of sight for Ogerpon... and us as the ones witnessing the story... although you could argue that the villagers would've probably found his body at some point, so the mask maker would've learned of it and told it that way in the story as well. But in the end, the game is still for children, the writers probably just don't want to explicitly tell about how an innocent man was killed by Pokemon in a robbery, especially if they want kids to still capture those Pokemon later.
@@Justic_ Well, we know the professors in the base game were killed by Koriadon/Moriadon and one of Heath's crew was killed by a paradox as well, both were explicitly said so I don't think that matters in this case lol
@@derekosgood3230 Pretty sure the member of Heaths crew wasn't explicitly killed, but mortally wounded. That's as far as the game goes with that.
While with the professors... I'm pretty sure the games were still pretty vague about it, like, they explicitly died, but it wasn't explicitly by Koraidon or Miraidon, considering it happened during that accident in the 4th lab, the AI could've just as well meant that the professors chose to sacrifice themselves to keep Koraidon/Miraidon alive.
@@derekosgood3230 That is the question/mystery.
I still think the real "villains" of the story are judgement, prejudice, and paranoia.
The "Loyal" Three most likely originally stole those masks because [the masks] were really shiny, and it wasn't until they started wearing the masks, they realize that [the masks] could make them powerful & give them what they desire.
If anything, the three Pokémon are just corrupted kleptos and/or thieves.
*Off Topic: In my headcanon of the "Loyal" Three's personalities, they are basically Pokémon versions of the three outlaws from "The Princess Bride."
Okidogi is Fezzik, Fezandipiti is Inigo, and Monkidori is Vizzini.
I genuinely think the Man was the PCs ancestor. That explain why Ogerpon is so quick to trust us
I doubt it would be like a great great great ( many more greats ) grandfather of the player, but the man could have been a brother of a great grandfather or grandmother. Because he like died from the loyal three
i think the reason why Ogerpon likes us because we have been to area zero and probably have the smell(?) of the crystals, which reminds her of the man.
@@DeeriTheTigerhe could have had kids before he died
That would be convoluted family tree because I already made my character a descendant of Palina and Iscan 😆
The player is from galar
I think Ogrepon being from Area Zero with the man is a very interesting idea. The DLC is called the "Hidden Treasure of Area Zero" after all so Area Zero's gonna tie it all together somehow
Fun fact- in the Ogre' den, you can find. Black smudge on the floor, where most likely the man got killed by the loyal three
Pretty sure it's just burnt from years of campfires.
maybe the loser three used his body to fuel a campfire 😱
The man is Kieran, back in time trying to go back to his home. He even has the ponytail from the end of the Teal Mask.
That would be wild
One important thing to note is that in the original momotaro story is that the ogres took with them a princess that momotaro saved, and that in the original momotaro story the animals were evil before they met momotaro. The monkey I think stole Momotaros food, The dog tried to steal the food from the monkey, and the dog also tried to eat the pheasant. Momotaro had to fight ALL of them before they were tame enough to become good. He then took them to save the princess. Since they are inverting the story, it's my personal belief that YOU represent the ogre, and ogrepon might actually be the princess in this story, with Kieran representing momotaro who is trying to take the princess from you. I think this might be why Ogrepon likes you and not Kieran because you remind her of the original "ogre"
the man could be the person on Heath's expedition team who was injured but the iron treads or great tusk in area zero
Like his Face got Burned or he survived a Pokemon attack which caused his Face to have 3 Huge scratch marks across his Face!
Foreign man could be Pokémon that talks like a human and could be the Pokémon in Heath's Journal that looks like that Gorilla Pokémon? Maybe?
Something I feel needs mentioned that I don't think anyone so far has. As soon as the DLC downloaded, I wanted to see what I could transfer from HOME. Diancie is among the pokemon that can transfer, such I found interesting. Not only that, but it's ridiculously well-detailed. The pokemon model is very polished. I also found hidden Carbink cavern at the Crystal pools in the middle of the DLC map. Pretty much just Carbink there. Skim the perimeter of the springs area. From the edge, look toward the center for a rock with a cave hole in it that's hidden (because the entrance is found where you probably won't see it unless you're standing at the edge)
Go in the cavern. It drops down, but if you act quickly and go into the hidden cavern inside the drop-down, you'll find it.
I think Diancie has A somewhat significant place in this DLC.
if the man is a traveller and researcher who has been to Area Zero...that makes them a parallel for the player (from wherever, moved to Paldea, went to Area Zero on a research mission) so maybe there's something we all have that draws Ogerpon to us. no one has seen Ogerpon in ages, it seems, until we arrive so maybe the Tera Ball or something has drawn Ogerpon to us
I think the events took place a few centuries before Heath's expedition since people had been trying to go down into Area Zero. The guy could of actually been successful in getting down there found Ogerpon and developed a fatherly instinct towards it and instead of announcing his success decided to leave the region in order to protect Ogerpon.
thx for keeping us entertained ttar ❤
Do they ever actually say the man brought the Tera Crystals? I thought it just said the mask maker had crystals from a far off land and put them in the masks
Pretty sure it said the man had the crystals not the mask maker
I thought "the man" could refer to the mask maker since they're talking about the mask maker in that sentence@@Airkong423
It says the man brought the crystals from a far away place. The mask maker is a village resident and the man came with Ogrepon from outside the village. It is very likely that the man references.... the man with Ogrepon, as he is always called that.
That makes sense@@GreyVictory1510
He has a big tera shard-like crystal as an amulet on his neck
Many legendaries in this region which is grouped by 4, number 4 keeps reappearing. Maybe it is because a reason and maybe they are connected? Ogrepon masks 4, Bullies legendary 4, Chinese cursed legendaries 4.
I always thought the man looked like an orangoru. it would explain why the vilagers where so unsettled and orangoru is able to apparently catch and train pokemon the head also looks identicle to it
I think AZ is the king from the Paldean story’s because they say that he is obsessed with the treasures like him and his floaet from kalos and that he sealed away his treasures after the war between Kalos and Paldea and he could have some connections to Ogerpon and the masks because the masks are treasures right.
Your video are really hyping me up for the second DLC a lot! I am lookinf forward to your future videos and I love to see your motivation to connect the dots
And in regards to the man, I would imagine the crystal lake is somehow related. Maybe it is the reason he and ogrepon settled down around kitakami, or maybe they are the reason the lake has terra crystals. If we take that face-injury theory and spin it a bit further, maybe it was more like some kind of mutation thanks to the terra crystals (like it happens to the professor-AIs at the end of the game).
And if he died, maybe ogrepon buried him up there and over the time his grave became the crystal lake.
Khu said the face on the Tera Hats had something to do with a legendary in these games, but it doesn't really look like the forms of Terapagos we've seen. Kinda looks maybe a bit like Dokutaro though??
Considering how long ago this took place, I dont think that the man and Ogerpon were ugly. Just that they were different, since if he was from Paldea, that means he was a Spanish man in Japan. It makes sense that thered be discrimination, even more if it was 200 years ago
I think Ogerpon and the man stayed at Kitakami because Ogerpon is the last of her kind, the others being dead. So when they came to the Crystal Lake and Ogerpon saw her family and friends again the man decided to stay for her well being. I also think the Ghost Characters mentioned in the leftover code from the DLC are one of Arven's parents who give us guidance to the deepest parts of Area 0 and possibly Heath who explains his journey through the strange place.
The identity is obvious the Human version of Shrek
The stained glass windows at Nemona's house. They might be a new Pokémon
Ogrepon is obviously just a regional burmy
I think it’s Ingo because he say’s after you battle him at the the place where you battle Zizu in Hisui he says he will move on to find more about his past probably running into Ogerpon and going to Kitakami
My theory is that it’s AZ. After all, imagine a bunch of Japanese people seeing a severely wrinkled, 8-foot tall white dude 200 years ago? I’d be screaming freak too TBH
I doubt gamefreak would make the man Az, also the silhouette of the man doesn’t exactly look like Az
I have also thought about this but AZ is not able to die. he could be younger at this time.@yee2171
You’re such a good story teller. Thank you for your videos
Have you noticed that peach Pokémon plushy doesn’t have a price next to it in the shop. What if its been there the whole time hiding and scouting out?
I think your theory about the masked man being a part of Heath's exploration team might be true. I remember there was a part in the Scarlet/violet book that mentioned the team coming across a paradox pokemon, and one of the team members getting seriously injured. It's possible the masked man was that injured member.
Just thought about this channel and many other Poketubers from forever ago. I’m so glad to see you’re still making content as when I was a fan 9ish years ago. Keep it up man !
In the Teal Mask it actually says the mask maker made several masks, so there could be 3 other masks out there ogrepon could use or maybe only the 4 masks we have right now have terastilization abilities 🤷♂️
Or maybe we ( the player ) could take Tera crystals to kieran and carmines grandfather, kieran said that his grandfather could still make masks. And he would make more masks for ogrepon, like a dragon type mask or something like that
It's us in a legends Kitakami game.
Where they explain the timeless forest, explore more bloodmoon variants ( can have different names ) maybe finally a new Gliscor or something
And go in depth about the story.
Could also be a DLC to a Legends Paldea game.
Pokémon Legends: Ogerpon would go HARD!
These consistent drops this week have all been EXACTLY when im looking for something to watch. Physic Tera Type TTAR!
Imagine if that man was actually Lucius and that he was a member of Heaths expedition team that went to area zero, that would explain the theory that time passed differently while they were down in the crater and once they exited the crater they realised time was moving much slower for them in area zero, so after that he was seeking a home to settle in these new times, would also explain the theory that he went to multiple regions meaning that this is the reason why Lucius has galarian moltres, shiny rayquaza and arboliva and other pokemon we have yet to see in the anime, just one thing thats weird is why was he defeated, because with pokemon that he had it should've been more than enough
I like how ogerpon was just confirmed that she has 3 heads to her name
I’ve been laughing at the Whack Ass Three ever since I realized they all got killed by a Grass-Type
My theory is maybe the foreign man is our ancestor and maybe that’s why ogrepon trusted us so easily
IT could be the opposite that the oni mountain combined with the belief of a seperate momotaro, together with the crysal lake made that belief in the story crystalize it into reality. Their imagination created ogrepon and the 4 bullies. And the man who came with ogrepon and lived with him, didnt come with ogrepon but when he appeared with crystals then the crystals in the crystal lake activated and then the belief of the people came into reality creating ogre pon and the 4 momotaro pokemon. And he stayed with ogrepon only to research the crystals and how the people's created imagination would play out in real life. If life could conquer the imagination or imagination life.
Yeah but you forgot to mention that in the scarlet or violet boom it say that during heath expedition one crew member was hurt by a paradox pokemon maybe this was the man and the injury was in his face it was not that bad but he prefer to cover it with a mask
What if it's my boii AZ?
I'd love that!
But he didn’t die since az was alive in xyz
I wish
It would be cool but I don’t think gamefreak would do that
And the silhouette of the man doesn’t really look like AZ
Seeing how excited ttube is talking about this stuff makes me exited to what a real one truly a poketuber goat.
I've been wishing someone would talk about this too! Maybe this sounds kind of crazy, especially considering how off this is from the theory in the video, but my first thought when I saw the drawing of the mystery man was that he reminded me of Alder. Alder's come back into the picture with that mysterious picture in Legends: Arceus, so I'm on the alert for him.
There’s also the fact that kitakami was full of xenophobic people (people who fear the unknown) the loyal three definitely must’ve had dirty tactics since they bullied ogerpon when we went to return the teal mask this leading to our first fight with munkidori
A few seconds from the point that I have marked 1:56 it is so funny how he doesn’t realize that ogrepon with the sheer rage his base stat total went higher up to 1 million
Honestly I considering they just decided to set up camp in the mountains I’m willing to bet they were homeless. two travelers looking for a place to call home honestly and I don’t think they had any method of travel so they probably just walked.
And the reason they were outcast was probably because they were outsiders just wandering in like we did at the beginning of the game and Carmine confronted us
An interesting idea I have is what if the mask maker was the one who had the crystals? I think that would just be straight up cool and connect Carmine and Kieran even closer to the plot.
The mask maker was the one who initially brought the Tera crystals that he used in the mask.
I have no idea where TTar is pulling the whole "Ogerpon's partner brought over the crystals" misinformation from
No the story literally says, and I quote "adorned with gems the man brought from somewhere far away"
Ttar is correct.@@ninjapotatolorf6237
@ninjapotatolorf6237 but the it did day that Ogerpons partner gave the mask maker those crystals
@@ninjapotatolorf6237 The story says that “the mask maker used crystals the man brought from far away”
I’m pretty sure “the man” is referring to Ogerpon’s partner, since he is always referred to as “the man” in the story, whereas the mask maker is referred to as “the mask maker” in this story.
@@skullguy4863
No.
No it did not.
The man and Ogerpon came from "a far off land".
The mask maker got the crystals from "a far off land".
Those two "far off lands" are not necessarily the same land, and they very likely aren't.
Honestly if we're going down the path of these 2 being part of Heath's Area Zero journey, I get a Paradox Sableye vibe with mythical properties for Ogerpon (like Cyclizar being a legendary in Kor/Miraidon)
I immediately thought AZ when I first saw the silhouette, but I doubt it! 😂
this is my morning thing now, is like listening to radio while drinking coffee.
I just had another thought (at 10:09 paused again cause i came up with it) What if... the reason why the crystals in the lake, are there because 'Ogrepon' is there? do we know how long those tera crystals have been there, if they've been there since 'before' Ogrepon arrived, then that's one thing, but if they are there because Ogrepon was there, then that also ties into your theory that Ogrepon came from Area Zero. What if, like Terapagos, what if 'Ogrepon' can create her own tera crystals, perhaps not in the way Terapagos can, but more 'subtly', over time, the crystals emerged and grew naturally
This explains why, unlike when normal Pokemon tera they get a crown, but Ogrepon's mask becomes enormous and 'becomes' the tera crystal itself. She may not have dominion over the tera crystals like Terapagos, but she can still create them and thus manipulate them directly, only she does so with her masks because of how special and important they are to her, they are her identity after all, much like how the crystals are terapagos' identity
this is so much fun speculating, i might just make my own theory vid
What if the idea that the Tera crystal can grant the user whatever they desire is true. With that only being ture because the native crystals in area zero are absorbing Terapagos power from being exposed to Terapagos. This man could be a survivor from area Zero that meet Terapagos and his desire was to have companionship. So Ogrepon was created as a result using Terapagos's power. Similar to the pass and future pokemon created later on. And that's her link to Area Zero and why she can manipulate terastallization. This will also explain why the crystal lake exists in Kitakami as Ogrepon is of Terapagos. So the crystals in that Mountain are being exposed to Terapagos's power as well.
Honestly I think they were both "ugly" from the locals' point of view because Kitakami seems like a pretty isolated place. The stranger didnt look like the Kitakami villagers, so they considered that "ugly" and obviously Ogerpon was a pokemon they'd never seen before as well. You can even see this ethnocentrism is still a thing with some people in the current day since Carmine didn't like you at first purely because you were "an outsider" as she admits toward the end of the Teal Mask.
I had a stupid thought. What if the man was Heath. He wore the mask to hide his identity and he had used orgepon as his first terastalized pokemon. He stayed in the cave to either study the crystal pool or maybe he grew the crystals in the pool to further his research without bothering terapagos or on terapagos' orders.
I don’t think Kieran actually knows who if was his great-great grandpa he just overheard that it was his ancestor from the player characters conversation with his grandpa
Btw AZ doesnt age, Terapagos castle is timeless where time doesnt pass. Maybe it all is connected.
I liked the fact that this game makes death a more concrete, canon phenomenon in the Pokémon world. Obviously it already existed and we know that, but it was never brought up except in the context of extinct species of Pokémon, but now we have things like the Professor having been killed by the evil Koraidon/Miraidon, and Ogerpon actually killing the Loyal Three. Also, always remember that, friends. Ogerpon, the most adorable and loveable Pokémon ever created, canonically has a body count of 3.
Hey T-Tar, I’ve been thinking about the whole “Zombies” part of the code for Indigo Disk, and I think I have an idea. Maybe we’re not talking literal, Brain eating zombies, but maybe something more like husks of a human. So maybe Momotaro, upon hearing of the undoing of the mythology around the Loyal Three, will return to Kitakami and do something to brainwash the population into being it’s ‘Zombies.’
Or possibly the loyal three because they were in 200 years ago kitakami and died from the cutest Pokemon ever (ogerpon) and from Either Kieran's energy or from him holding the teal mask they got ressurected ya know?
0:27 Ok, why does everyone keep saying that the People of the Kitakami Village considered the Man & Ogerpon as Ugly?
It just mentioned that the Villagers feared those two, because they looked different from them, which doesn't mean they thought them as ugly, it could just mean they feared them because of having different skin color or body structure (different ≠ ugly).
It's like a tall African suddenly appears in some remote rural village of Japan around 400-500 years ago.
How the hel did those villagers find Ogerpon ugly? She's so freaking adorable. There had to have been something mentally wrong with them.
The starry eyes are freaky
I wonder if the rumors of the zombie npcs might bring back this man from the dead, and explain who he was or how he was defeated. It would be also interesting to see, if as you mentioned, maybe the man was able to neutralize the peach pokemon and in that process make them both dissapear (as neother the man dissapearance or the peach are told by the story nor the towns people). Even more imagine if the crystal pool is a result of such battle between the man and the peach pokemon! I cant wait to play the dlc I really enjoy the narrative they made for this game!!
Its me I'm the old man in the story, I did it for the lols
You mentioned the possibility of the man in Ogerpon's backstory having a scar on his face... what if this guy is the same person who was "mortally wounded" by the Paradox Pokémon as described in the Scarlet/Violet Book?
This was great. I think peach pokemon will be kierans ace in the 2nd DLC
Now THIS is some SS+ Tier theorizing.
The man could be similar to az from kalos after all it was never explained what give az's ultimate weapon the ability to both give and destroy life. Lysandre loosely rebuilds the machine using the power of xerneas or yveltal but their power is only good enough for a single shot that ultimately destroyed the machine by backfiring. Az's story mentions that each setting could be used multiple times during the period of time in which floette was revived. Az's grief and rage at floette's death plus a small sample of these crystals could have powered that machine, but someone would have to have brought them to him from another region.
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Idk why but the man reminds me of the "gorilla" from the violet book that we still haven't seen the pokemon equivalent of.
it's likely that Ogrepon like the Main Character because of our tera orb, which is make out of teracrytals and the other two didn't seem to have their at the time while the MC never seems to go anywhere without theirs
My random theory is that the man is a paradox version of Heath
Maybe when he was jumped by the loyal three he used one of the masks and Teraslized himself like AI turo did.
Maybe the man could be an ancestor of us, so maybe that's why orgepon wants to be with us, it's because we resemble a little bit of that foreigner
He probably stayed to study the pool and it's connection with Area Zero.
A man and his waifu. A tale as old as time
What if the man is the team member of Heath's expedition team that was mortally wounded by the Titan Great Tusk. After he was wounded, the rest of the team retreated. Ogerpon could have somehow saved the man and formed a bond with him. The man sees that Ogerpon could use Tera Crystals to terastalize itself and is amazed. After he recovers from his wound, he takes a stash of tera crystals and leaves Area Zero with Ogerpon. Eventually they make it to Kitakami where they try to settle down, but his terrible scars from being mortally wounded and being accompanied by Ogerpon scared the locals.
Eventually they meet the mask maker and they use the tera crystal masks for himself and Ogerpon to go to their festival. They decide to settle on Oni mountain because the man figured it would be similar to Area Zero, which is Ogerpons home ,with the tera crystal pool on the mountain. Sadly, tragedy does strike and the man dies, but while he was alive, he was able to figure out that Ogerpon can change its tera forms using it's imagination so he has the 3 masks inspired by different types, and the teal mask, which he wore. That is why the teal mask doesn't change it's typing, its more of a memento of the man who Ogerpon accompanied.
I has a headcanon where the bloodmoon ursaluna was the "man" with ogerpon. idk why i thought so
Maybe like sada and turo that man was becoming crystalized like them
Here's my theory:
Remember TTar's theory about Terapagos' land? I think Ogerpon and the man came there. They were part of the past/futuristic people trapped in the hidden land. It is the only explanation I can think of that could explain the man's unusual face. His face was weird because he and Ogerpon were not from the present time period. They managed to escape the hidden land and come back to Area Zero because of Heath's intervention in the Great Crater expedition. Heath met the man and Ogerpon. The man explained that he came from the past/future and was trapped inside Terapagos' land. They need help to free their companions trapped inside, so they ask Heath to lend them a hand. Heath's team, along with the man and Ogerpon, came back to the surface of Paldea. Heath introduced the two to the Paldean people through the Scarlet/Violet book, but no one believed him. No one believed in the existence of Paradox Pokemon, Terapagos, the hidden land, and the people trapped inside. Everyone called the Area Zero Research Team a fraud.
To protect Ogerpon from the Paldean people, the man took matters into his own hands. They tried to go back to Area Zero with special Tera crystals that could open a portal to the hidden land. They were on their way when Momotaro appeared, preventing their entry. The Momotaro Pokemon lives in Area Zero and is after the special Tera crystals the man holds. The man and Ogerpon escaped from Momotaro, and they searched the world for another portal to the hidden land outside Area Zero. They received news about a beautiful crystal lake in the east. That's how they ended up in Kitakami. They saw the crystals up on Oni Mountain. They finally had access to the hidden land but there was one problem. They cannot reach the hidden land through the pool for some reason. The mask maker used the special Tera crystals to make Ogerpon's masks. Little did they know that Momotaro followed them through Kitakami alongside the dog, monkey, and pheasant which it gifted with toxic chains. The story goes on with Ogerpon's backstory of the Lousy Three and Momotaro stealing her mask, them being regarded as heroes, and events that happened in the Teal Mask.
In the Indigo Disk, we would use Ogerpon's masks (because it has the special Tera crystals) to enter the hidden land without Terapagos' power. Ogerpon and Momotaro will meet again and will continue their fight. This way, Ogerpon is connected to the Hidden Treasure of Area Zero than we initially thought.
My theory might be a bit of a stretch, but what I am simply pointing out is that Ogerpon and the man might have come from Atlantis from TTar's Terapagos' land theory.
What if the player character is a descendant of the man with ogerpon? Could explain why ogerpon quickly grows fond of the player. Knowing GF they wouldn’t go that route.
Do you think the Horizons anime is linked to the games at all? The ancient trainer Lucius, he's revealed to have legendary Pokémon, (Rayquaza and Galarian Moltres) he travels the world and he has long hair
The reason he traveled to kitakami could be because he wanted to investigate the pool, meaning that briar might be a somewhat descendant.
I always thought that the ogre guy would be AZ. A tall guy, someone from a far away place not being excepted by others, taking care of other Pokémon.
I wonder if the mountains horn falling is an important detail since in the scene we were shown in the story it is still attached, also it shows the mountain without the left horn on the dlc title screen.
Ogerpon could be a paradox Pokemon from the past. Has a cudgel like a caveman. Just a thought.
I think it’s so raw that ogerpon a grass type beat the loyal three to death
when i first saw the silhouette of the man an ogerpan, my first thought was that the man was AZ from X and Y. the proportions of the way they drew him makes him look extra tall and lanky, like AZ. there seems to be a couple references to kalos and gen 6, being that france (kalos) and spain (paldea) border each other, the connection of roaring moon to mega salamance, and (this one’s a big stretch) (A)rea (Z)ero. also i feel that a freakishly tall man could explain why the villagers found him “ugly” and whatnot. idk just my crazy theory
I think that the crystals are there for other reasons unrelated and the masks were made by the mask maker using the crystals already there.
I saw the man and thought of Alder’s ancestor that we also saw in Hisiui portraits