Column review. How to choose the right columns. Scale and proportion start here
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Choosing the right columns is harder than you think. Most columns available at lumber yards are not architecturally correct. Good columns have a number of key attributes. This video shares those details and helps you choose and make better decisions. There is a key height to width ratio for starters. This is where proper proportions start.
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I’m addicted to this channel! Bought 4 of the books you mentioned already. Some are VERY hard to impossible to find.
Awesome! Thank you! Yes, but worth it when you find them. :) Thanks for watching.
David Peters- I’ve hit on the State library system-especially the White Pine publications and those rarer books out of print. The architectural schools have been a trove too. Good luck!
Same!
Who has the list of books?
Thanks for helping me get my daily steps-- I watch your videos with a sketch pad and a tape measure, running around my 1920's house comparing and plannng!
Glad to help! Thx.
The problem is so many people who are suppose to know this (carpenters, builders, sales reps, designers, DIY experts especially) but don't really have a clue, continue the same old, but wrong advice to others, "you can do whatever you want, what you like, you can do this or you can do, that there's no right or wrong way". Hence we have everybody today absolutely clueless as to what really works and looks nice. And sometimes if you speak up and say, "that's not really correct, then you are looked down on as if you are being offensive or overly critical of others and their views". That column at 5:38 was hilarious. Your videos are a breath of fresh air. Please, don't stop trying to educate others.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Such precise and helpful wisdom. Thank you as always.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you again for the knowledge that you are sharing.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Wonderful review.
Thank you kindly!
Thank you for teaching Brent. Keep the book recommendations coming-I’ve seen that library of yours. Don’t be stingy now. All the best!
LOL. Thank you, I will. Not going to hold back.
I'm Brent Hull from The Build Show, and I'm the best.
Well, I wish that was true. LOL
Interesting. We seem to have a crop of one story houses with shallow, high porticos (if that’s the right term) held up by a variety of overly ornate columns. In California neighborhoods of “simple”, 1970s stucco houses. Even if all the houses In the neighborhood are remodeled similarly, it seems to me they will still look out of place/out of scale. And thanks for a new word, entasis.
Cool, thanks for watching.
Is there a formula to use when picking the diameter of the column?
@@hometownheroesteam It will be interesting to see if there is an answer to your question. In the few instances I have worked on, we wound up with mock-ups and scale drawings that let us make judgments like “that would never hold it up” and “you could add an elephant”. Sort of a Goldilocks and the Three Bears approach.
I believe the main reason for entasis is that from a distance it makes the column look straight, by that I mean the edges of the column appear plumb.
Yes, that is one of the theories for why they did it. Thanks for sharing.
One thing I always wondered and a lot of people that I know wonder the same thing how much money would it cost to build one of these old Victorian houses what were the prices of lumber back then what were the prices of crown molding what were the prices to plaster a house the slate roofs the framing?
I think that is a fair question. The quick answer is A LOT!! I suspect to build a medium priced historic Victorian would costs $500-1000/ft to build it right today. One reason I love historic houses is that they have such rich and authentic materials. Thanks for the question.
Is it possible for you to make a video how a column is made with entasis. Also i have not found even one video on how a column is installed especially marble or stone one. Would you have any video references to that? Im trying to piece together how St. Peter's Basilica was built but not easy at all to find any content.
Interesting. Ok, let me look.
I just finished a house with about 30 columns beautiful design the architect did a great job… also are your capitals you make hand carved?😁
Awesome, sounds great! Only when there is something unique required. Thanks for watching.
@@BrentHull I always look forward to ever video thanks for taking the time to make them!
Texas Craftsman- Do you have a link to any house photos? Thanks!
What are they made out of? I can't seem to find the definitive answer which material is best.
Brent, at 5:50, was the column change from 10" to 8" a course-of-construction change-order, or was it actually specified as 8" in the plans but got overlooked in the actual construction? I.e., who pays -- or who eats the cost of correcting the columns?
No cost change. Design change. We are cost plus on our jobs.
We're building a traditional farmhouse with a wrap around front porch. What columns would be appropriate for that?
tapered round columns. Of course it depends on the period, I'll have a video on that soon.
I live in an urban area with a lot of small, pre War cottages and bungalows that are being torn down and replaced by huge McMansions. There is no attempt to integrate the new with the old. They have Victorian-esque houses with massive Arts and Crafts style pier porches. They make no sense.
It's hard to watch. I feel your pain.
what is the time period in which a triple column styling was used?
Neo-classical but especially around 1900-1930's
Hi Brent , great video as always. You mentioned you use great woods when fabricating the columns and avoid pine. What sort of wood are you typically using for exterior columns ? Is it sapele mahoghany?
Yes, Sapele. Which is like an African Mahogany. We are really impressed by its strength and stability.
@@BrentHull is this column of sapele stave cored or t&g or solid glued ? And is it qtr sawn selects only for shear strength?
I am curious, at the 6:57 mark there is a really pretty classical style house I was wondering how you felt about the columns being so tall that they support the roof and have that second story balcony sort of running through them as opposed to using shorter columns to hold up that second story balcony and then another set of columns supporting the roof?
Ooops 6:47
Well, it is a pretty typical neo-classical design motif in the early 1900s. The composition works and it is a fun way of treating the home. My 2 cents. BTW, the Kell house project was styled very similarly.
That is interesting. There are two examples of two story houses, one after the other. The first shows tall columns with the second floor porch attached or intersecting the two story columns. The second shows single story columns, the second floor porch, and a second set of columns going up from there. I don't see how the Greeks or Romans would've attached a porch floor to a tall column, so I have to think the second example is more historically accurate, i.e. columns are only as tall as to reach a floor above them. But I don't have any real knowledge of this stuff.
Yeah I gotta go with you on this one
“Don’t be a dummy!” Lol
Haha. True.
Thanks again Brent for the great education. I love this one and your other one about stairs:
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Nice. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
He spelled entasis wrong @3:54
thanks.