I literally bought both of these stoves today! I got the propane stove at Walmart, and the 425b stove on Craigslist for $25.00, and it's in like new condition. This was a very informative video!
I have used both stoves for 40 years. I can't believe I have been camping that long. Wonderful video. Older quality Coleman stoves are great. I just did not know until recently that I have been a prepper my whole life.!!!!
I’m 40 years old. I’ve been using the Coleman liquid fuel stove my grandpa gave me when I was 16 this entire time. It has never failed me. I’ve used it many times every year since I’ve had it. Probably burnt through thirty gallons of fuel. I’ve only had to replace the pump plunger once. Best car camping stove ever.
I have VOLUNTEERED at the local Goodwill. We received a 1949 3-BURNER stove in LIKE NEW...never used condition in the ORIGINAL BOX from 1949. Being a camper...I priced it (I did all the pricing) at $25.00. It literally FLEW OFF the shelves. Glad that somebody with a real treat.
Also, another plus for the older white gas Coleman stove is the fact that there are good used ones available at nearly every garage sale and e marketplace site at prices well under the cost of a new unit. Coleman stoves, lanterns and canoes rock! 🇨🇦
I found one at a camp site that someone had thrown out next to the propane bottle return cage. Nothing wrong with it and still had a bit of gas in the tank. My guess is that the user did not know how to use it properly.
Nice vice info. I tried all kinds of camp stoves but I always go back to old school Coleman white gas. Years ago we ate cold food on our hunting trip. Propane stove flames was so low in cold temps, now white gas is a no fail, no brainer. 🤙🏽🤙🏽 keep up the good works
We used the white gas stove in the Canadian army & I've used them down to -45c. Spare parts are easily accessible, as long as the green case is still good you can get all other parts, you might want to have a spare generator, & something to lube the pump. We'd use them in the Arctic tents in winter for heat & cook in the summer.
Yup, the stoves are great. The fuel is better ! We ran out of gas late a night trying to get to Al's parents house (3am) and had passed up a station off the interstate that was still open. Al poured the Coleman Fuel straight from the can through a funnel made from the Rand McNally Atlas Cover into our 1973 VW Bus. We were able to drive BACK 20 miles to that station, buy real gas and continue on to Al's parents with our 9 month old son that night. Al has NEVER run out of gas ever again.... 😎
Bought a Coleman at garage sale 2 years ago, best 10 bucks I ever spent. 10 cents of gas to fill and last about 5 hours on full Cooked some dang good meals on this and saved my butt on a cold night too, lol
I also have both style Coleman stoves, my pick is white gas. Once you learn how to use it, it just so reliable and stays lit in the wind blowing on the burners.
I’ve got 2 old Coleman liquid fuel stoves. A 2 burner and a 3 burner. I’ve used both for probably 50 years. When I light them, I will turn the line valve to the down position once the burner flame goes blue. The burner flame will go back to a yellow flame for 2-3 seconds then right back to the blue flame. I may be getting old now but learned and enjoy cooking on both of them!
Super video! The very best video I've found comparing the two versions of Coleman stoves! I've used the liquid stove since I was a kid but, regrettably, gave it away years ago...now looking to purchase a stove for emergency service and wanted to explore both models available today. Thanks again for such a great video and comparision!
The Coleman 425 liquid fuel stove definitely! You can't beat the versatility it offers. It can run on liquid fuel or propane. Just add the propane generator adapter, propane tank, and your set!
I got a 50's model from a friend at a yard sale. I then got a dual fuel later that'd been used very little. The 50's burns as good as the newer one. I don't want a propane stove. And the hiss is pure comfort! Thanks!
For me the main advantage of liquid fueled stoves is that the fuel is far more dense. For example, a 1lb propane canister will run your stove for less time than a similarly sized container of liquid fuel.
While true, the propane ones are SO much easier to use...turn it on, light and cook......compared to pumping up the tank, messing with liquid fuel, etc.....that propane is the only way to go. Same for lanterns. Want to cook a LONG time, get a hose adapter for a 20lb propane bottle. I grew up camping in the 50-60's, and I'd NEVER go back to a liquid fuel version.
@@edsmith4414 well I car/tent camp for several weeks a trip. Carrying the bulky propane tank or paying the high prices on the camping stores for the little ones would be ridiculous in my case. Pumping is not a big deal, a bit of exercise and you have a stove that can cook much longer and in my opinion hotter than propane. Now if you’re in an RV you have plenty of space but RV is not for me at all, then again everyone has preferences using what works for you.
I just reunited with using a Coleman stove. I grew up with my dad using one everywhere then fast forward to me at aged 50. I got a second hand 424 and was pretty freaked out at setting fire to gasoline but watching this video helped me understand using it a lot. Outdoor cooking is good. Thanks.
Makes me feel nostalgic! My parents had these stoves... liquid fuel ones back in the 70's. I remember my father buying a three burner at a garage sale and was so happy because they already had the two burner one. They are great! I really don't camp all that much but I think it might be time to start! :)
I still have my parents one that we brought over in the states in the same year and the only item I have had to replace is the nozzle. Difference with ours is, that it looks like it came from 1983 and been to every war in between.
My dad was using unleaded fuel in his stove, early mid sixties, before they had duel fuel. I have 3 old Colman fuel gallon cans some one gave me from the 70's, un opened. Just tried one on my stove. The fuel is fine.
I accidentally forgot to fill up the tank on my old 70s liquid fuel Coleman stove a couple camp trips ago and ran out of fuel half way thru cooking breakfast. After moving skillets to the fire I remembered I had zippo lighter fluid with me, dumped it into the tank and she lit right back up just fine. I'll never get rid of my old trooper, it's so simple and has never let me down. Plus the fuel is cheap and lasts forever. I've had a large can of Coleman fuel for 10 years now and am finally getting down to needing a new can this year. I don't camp every other day but frequently enough that that is pretty impressive to me.
I had one of these 25 years ago. I lent it to my parents for a road trip and never retrieved it. Dad still had it in his shed somewhere, time to retrieve it I think.
Excellent video! I have owned 1 of the propane stoves and everything you said about yours rang true for the one I had. I have always wondered about the liquid fuel stoves and your presentation was VERY helpful. I think I'll look around and get one of each now. I have a "Buddy" propane heater for emergencies or camping heat so I have plenty of green 1lb. bottles and the fittings to refill them. But I can see the efficacy and I believe, the slight superiority of the liquid fuel stove in terms of economy, function and versatility
Several things about the two stoves,white gas is the hottest of all the stoves including the isobutane backpacking stove.It all comes down to convience and application.White gas if used indoors puts of an odor same with the lantern,propane emits little odor stove/lantern,obviously one is more compact than the other,your best bet for camping with propane is to used a #20 cylinder with a tree that way there are several outlets the top outlet for your lantern the side outlets for whatever.I use a gas line and hook it up to my stove,it takes a while to run a #20 cylinder empty,do love the white gas for the reason as mentioned for the same amount of fuel white gas will longer,with propane and a #1 cylinder you will have to pack out when empty,whereas there are storage containers for white gas.I used a single burner white gas stove when I went to the boundary waters I had purchased an outback oven which was totally collapsible and backed a cherry pie while we were there.Novel.Used them all as mentioned,application will determine what to use.Thanks for the info keep putting out the videos.
Coleman stoves are great. I use one in my outdoor garage along with my wood-burning stove. One addition I made was to bolt down the unit to a table top. It keeps the stove from sliding around while cooking and is a safety factor. I have also found out the cast iron skillets and pots work best on these units! Thanks for sharing.
When the older stoves were designed, cast iron was more commonly used. Notice the heavy duty grate on the 425, white gas unit? It's built for heavier cook ware than is common today. My ex and I used one of those for 2 years. As our only cooktop. Now I'm wondering what happened to that stove?
Great video - My 2 cents. Costs of white gas around here (Coleman, Crown etc.) have gotten ridiculous so I have sold all my equipment and gone propane - I now refill the Flame King 1 pound propane bottles and it's a WAY lower cost per BTU now as white gas and I've found it much easier to find propane when travelling (it's everywhere) than white gas. And when I did find white gas while travelling it was $15-$20 a gallon in remote areas and sometimes more! Propane is about $3.00 a gallon here and stable across the nation and that gets you about 91,000 BTU's - White gas around here is $8-$12 a gallon for 115,000 BTU's. A 20 pound tank of propane is about 4.7 gallons and takes about the same space as 5 gallons of white gas so storage isn't an issue. So that's something to think about these days depending on where you live.
I love the sound of the 425!!! Reminds me of my father, when he went out for deer hunting, with his buddys, before I was old enough to go with him. That was in the early '70's.... He still has his old 425, still working (just needed to oil the rubber washer inside the pump, if was dried out) And I have mine... I also have different propane stoves, but nothing brings me those nice memories. (And how about the taste and smell of bread toasted on those burners??? Wow!!)
I use premium gasoline in all my Colman liquid stoves the trick I use and works very well. Is seafoam mixed in I don’t buy white gas it a rip off. The seafoam keeps your fuel system clean. I have taken old Colman stoves that barely work let the mixture set in the system for around one year dump out the tank the fuel is usually brown remove the needle and clean it usually that fix’s the problem
I liked their stoves so much in the 70's that I bought other accessories, like their oven. Their oven was made well but fanciful fiction. Keeping the temp steady enough outdoors to really cook something interesting is a challenge to say the least. Coleman didn't always hit things out of the park, but for the most part they were reliable.
Thanks for this helpful video! I have the liquid fuel version from the 80's. going to dust it off and do some camping again. And going to look for the propane attachment you showed. Thanks again!
Liquid gas is my kind I had stoves like these all my camping years. I picked a Coleman for $10 it was 37 years old and was never used, great buy.I love them I have 3 of them.
I like the nostalgia of the old stoves and lanterns. I have a stove and lantern from the 60's and although my tent is from the 90's it is a heavy canvas wall tent with a floor. If there is any kind of a small hike in, I have a light weight home made cart for the tent. If it's more of a grand hike, I have a light weight canvas pup tent with canvas floor that I've had since boy scouts in the 60's. Those trips are cooking on camp fires and flashlights. For a spark lighter, I use a flint acetylene torch starter. Same thing as yours.
Excellent input and examples of the pros and cons. Greatly appreciated, and I've decided on buying both types, just in case, cause it gets very cold in my parts of the country, so thank you.
Great video! Im a young, single mom and my own father even lives far away now so I have to learn a lot on youtube about topics I never thought I would even have to learn about! My daughter and I went through hurricane Sandy which destroyed our home and for weeks we were living off of Red Cross food and Halloween candy lol. This time we have a coleman stove but going into this Hurricane season, I realize I had no clue how to use it so this is super helpful, thank you so much! Now I just have to take it out of storage and figure out which stove I have lol. I was just at Walmart and had no clue which fuel to buy...but you made everything very clear and took the fear I had of using it away plus we love camping so hopefully we can use it even if there is no hurricane haha. Thanks again!!! 🏕🍳🔥👩👧
bksaun as she said, she is a beginner. It’s in storage so OBVIOUSLY she can’t see whatever directions you speak of. I hope it made your day to be a dick for absolutely no reason. Please, for the love, grow the hell up. Immaturity is ugly on you.
Jennifer F my apologies, I should have said stamped instead of print, I think everyone took it wrong. seems everyone is looking to jump down someone’s throat at every chance. My point was if they stamped instructions instead of stickers that wear away , the instructions would be permanent. Guess I didn’t make myself very clear. But you sure did.
We switched over to the liquid stove after using a propane stove for many years because of fuel availability in remote areas and because of the far superior control. Percolated coffee is close to impossible on a propane because it won't go low enough, also too easy burn food. Our second propane stove had the grate higher than the slim model as shown here, but still not good enough. Because the liquid model seems old-fashioned, they are cheap and easy to find, as mentioned.
Ive been in the woods allmy life . And 45 years ive been a long haul trucker ive used both stoves. I like the white gas over propain. . I had my kitching sorta on the truck . Cook my own food. Saved money . About 10 graND a year .
An up date. I just got a brand new Colman stove new in the box . Never used bate on it is 1953 . Got it for 20 buck at a flee market in New Hampshire. I now have 5 stoves and 8 lanterns all work mint and like new . Deals are out there , you just have to look . Can you make a survival video with the stove in the rain or snow or high winds that would be cool . Keep up the good work
Love this video. After camping 60 years I find the propane cleaner and less messy to use. I camp out of an Rv that has a stove I just rather cook outside at the table. Time for me to switch to propane cartridge. No more spilling fuel, no more pumping and waiting a minute. Yes, I know it’s fun but hey.
I just got a 1981 coleman two burner stove 425 in it's original box and never been opened from ebay and excited to put it to good use on my hunting trips. Nostalgic wins over modern cheaper models any day
For me there are two things to consider. One is that all Coleman liquid fuel appliances use a part known as a generator which needs to be replaced at unpredictable times and mostly when I didn't have a spare on hand. The other point is that possessing appliances using different fuels necessitates keeping all those fuels on hand. That becomes more cumbersome than having all devices running on one fuel type. One last secondary point is that a Coleman liquid fuel stove heats things considerably faster than a propane version. Unless you're heating a lot of water up quickly such as for cooking macaroni or for showering, I don't see much advantage to the liquid fuel version. Then there's the pumping to pressurize the fuel tank. I was once a firm believer in the liquid fuel equipment, partly influenced by my dad. Im now a propane user.
I restore old Coleman stoves and lanterns as a hobby and rarely does a generator on a stove need replacing. If the fuel is old, gummy deposits will form on the heavy spring inside of the generator and in the tip, but this is easily cleaned with carb cleaner or fresh white gas and a toothbrush or cotton swabs. The generator can be unscrewed from the assembly to access the inside. The more common thing is for old gas to be left in the tank and flat deposits form and break loose to float around and get sucked tight against the pickup tube (that feeds the generator) and the stove will go out with a very loud and startling POP! So the tank is something I clean out as well, with about 20 small nuts that I put in and swish around until the bottom of the tank is clean. (Pull them out with a magnet.) Always empty the tank at the end of camping season to prevent problems like these. Although white gas can last for several years, people usually forget and it suddenly turns into 5 years, and then things are gummed up.
@@richardfrey9337 Your experience with generators is certainly much different than mine. Authentic stove and lantern fuel made generators last longer than with white gas, but still no treat. I wonder if white gas is still available.
@@richardfrey9337 Never saw old Coleman fuel gum up. Old auto gas yes in an old lantern or stove.. Leave full tank Coleman fuel in stored stove or lantern so the tank doesn't rust..
I went back to the white gas a few years back after a fishing trip in the Columbia R gorge. The wind was blowing a steady 25 mph in the evening and my LP gas Colman , just the one you have, wouldn’t get the oil in a black frying pan hot enough to fry the fish we had caught. We always used white gas Colman’s back in the 60’s and 70’s but I start using the LP stove for convenience but I’m back to gas now and I like it much better.
Super helpful video For whatever it’s worth I’m glad I bought the propane for the exact reason you mentioned. Knock on wood but I’ve never had a problem with it not working in the cold or wind. But coldest temp I’ve used it in was probably 25F. Thanks for the video
I know this is an old video so not sure if you still read the comments but, this is a fantastic and thoughtful camp stove review. Just subscribed. Thanks.
Interesting video. One way to reduce proppane cost is a five pound cylinder that's easily refillable and a connecting hose. May also (with the valve on the tank) be able to adjust the simmer on the propane stove.
Excellent video. Solely for the multi fuel capability, the Coleman stoves are highly valuable gears to have in the garage. Especially since you can buy a used one for $25-50. And the maintenance/cleaning of the jets/tubes etc is quite easy. This is not a $200 fancy light but clogged and unfixable bottle stove. Its a big, fat, solid, unbreakable, out of its time stove. And it could well spare your family a miserable experience one day (hurricane, flood, etc).
A company called Jarden group bought Coleman and a bunch of other brand names, basically most brands found at Wallymart. They then had their engineering team engineer all of the quality out of the products to increase their profits. Yes, Harden is owned by a bunch of jewish guys in NY.
@@elmatador6589 😱😩🥺. That is sad. The Coleman name goes way back in time. Not sure when Coleman started manufacturing their line of products but, according to my father-in-law, they used Coleman lanterns during WW2. All of my camping appliances were made by Coleman starting back in the mid 1960's and still work like a charm. I've had to replace the generators, globes and, the pump mechanism on them but that's to be expected. They've been used a lot. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
Im 52 years old and I still remember being on then McKenzie river Around fort Simpson N.W.T. back in the seventies in my parents river boat which was totally enclosed and we used to go way up river every weekend in the summer and then we would just drift back to Simpson all weekend and dad had canoes and a small ski boat type boat we would tow for my older brothers and sisters to water ski behind and mom had two of those in the boat and that's how she cooked for us! It was a different life back then before television was brought into the community I'll say this television wrecked everything! Two years after television we pretty much stopped doing that!
Thank you for that glimpse back in time. It's before my time. I grew up in the USA in the 1970's and always had a TV, but also played outside until dark every day. I hope our children will know good days like that...
Great video. Thank you for the detailed information. I have a vintage white gas stove and am considering replacing it with a new propane version. I was not aware of the propane adapter. After watching your video I am planning to just get the propane adapter. Keep up the good work!
I have an off grid cabin. I'm also at 6,100 ft elevation. Propane is not as effective at this altitude, therefore I use the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove. I have no problems boiling water with the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove. On propane, I must use a lid to get water to boil. So, I converted over to the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove. From a survival point of view, my opinion is propane will not be existent b4 gasoline runs out at the pump. It also used to be that Crown white gas, was half the price of Coleman white gas. Suddenly, Crown fuel, is the same price as Coleman fuel, now. So, we found a bunch (5)of new 424 generators at Habitat for Humanity and jumped on them. The price was right! Picked up one new pump assembly and 2 new Coleman rubber pumps and the clips.
@Dane Welkersen I prefer it for many reason. Much better flame control. Depending on the stove, it is generally a lot more quiet. You can use white gas, unleader gasoline, etc... so much more flexible. If times ever get tough, it is easier to find fuel. Just some of my thoughts.
@Dane Welkersen Liquid is Safer.(especially kerosene over gasolene) Liquid fuel you can see and smell if there is a leak. Propane is extremely dangerous. Odourless and invisible and heavier than normal air. If propane leaks it creates a layer of heavy gas which is odourless and extremely flammable that sinks to the floor. A spark can ignite it and the vapour tends to cling to you...so very very dangerous. I personally know two families that experienced tragedy due to using propane...the tragedies would never have happened if they were using a liquid fuel.
Propane has an indefinite shelf life which is why they’re always used for backup generators. They’re plentiful and the fuel burns for a long time and burns clean. If times ever get tough, hate to tell you all but liquid gas expires and if nobody is producing it anymore because of a shtf scenario, it ain’t gonna work
Mine is from probably 1974,.....until last year it still had the same fuel,.....yeah it worked fine the bluest blue you ever seen,.............but after I dumped the fuel and put new in. It was used till 1976,.....moved and it was on a shelf. I think it was used in 2 blizzards. Coleman had some great stuff.
i use regular unleaded in my stoves and lanterns but i also put about 2 or 3 cap fulls of berrymans b12 in each tank as well and i dont have to clean out the generators very often they work great just a suggestion to you all
@@sherryn39455 sea foam is more of an oil based product. I don't see any harm in trying it. I just always used berrymans B12 cause my grandfather used it. It's more of a harsh cleaner.. if you use seafoam. Let me know how it works 😁
I have both of them and both work great but my favorite is the propane stove. Its easyer to find propane than coleman fuel. Here anyway. And propane stores for 30 years without treating it. My generator is propane to. Sometimes I wish for a power outage. I'll keep prepping because it'll happen again some day
unless you have people resting their heads ON the stove do a DB reading about 10-20 feet away. I doubt anyone will wake because of a burner going on a stove. There is no need to depressurize a tank if you over pump and have the flames pulling away.. Just turn down the knob to reduce the pressure into the burner and it will settle down. Good video, good info. I have 3 suitcase stoves picked up a 3 burner a few months back, Love it!!!!!
B.P.Cap Lock Honestly, the racket of the sheet metal moving around as you open and position the stove and the noise of pumping up the tank is going to be far more disruptive than the hiss of the gas flow. The sound test was fun trivia but completely unnecessary, in my opinion.
Nice Video. I love my 3-burner 426D and have it setup for White Gas and Propane. Unleaded gas is filthy and too many other additives. I would suggest you get a 5 lb or 11 lb propane tank that is meant for refilling, or buy the 1 lb. propane tanks that are meant to be filled instead of the single-use canisters. Coleman's 3-burner stove has not been in production for many years and I wouldn't pass up on a cheap older one. You can find all of these stoves used and often in like-new conditon and/or you can get them running perfectly with a little maintenance. You can lubricate the propane stove knobs and get it a little better simmering adjustment. I will definitely pickup one of those starters.
As a kid, camping mid 70's to early 80's, we used a coleman stove & lantern...with coleman fuel. This dual fuel...idea...? White gas (coleman fuel or equivalent), Un-leaded gasoline (can you get leaded now, or for the past 30+ years?), Kerosene (interesting), Lamp oil (never thought of that), & last Propane (attachment needed). Seems as though Dual fuel is now a Multi fuel option. How do these other fuels stack up to...I guess coleman (white gas fuels)? Do you need to change out the pump seals for different fuels?
Propane every day of the week...mind you, I love my old Peak 1, but for a typical camping weekend, my propane stoves (a two-burner Century Primus and a single-burner Coleman) start easy and are low on drama. If you have a 20-pound cylinder for your gas grill at home, you can refill the spent 1-pound cylinders with an adaptor.
I have a propane two burner stove and have not had any problem starting and using it below 20 degrees F. I worked in a fire-tower for five years and used it to cook my meals. At the end of the season qlmost every morning was at 20 or lower and it always fired on the first try.
also google how to modify a lantern generator you will come across a guy that wraps copper wire around the spring or the cleaning needle . ive done both and they do work and if the generator in my lantern get sticky or clogged up i just use carb or brake parts cleaner in spray can to clean and flush them out and they work fine. so dont throw away your old lantern or stove generators. just clean them and you are off to the races again. hope this can help some people and it dose help save some money in the long run. ive been doing this for over 20 years
Get propane conversion for the Coleman White Gas stove and have the best of both worlds with the exception of the spark ignition. My Coleman White Gas stove is the model 425C.
just checked my stove is a 425E 1967-1970 apparently. Bought it in an antique mall. It looks like new. Had to fire it up after watching this. Going to get some fuel to put away as what is in it I put in it when I bought it several years ago and worked just fine.
I've burnt kerosene in a model 425 Coleman stove. It will work, but I think it is dangerous. There are three problems: The first one is the one BlackBear Prepper mentioned. You have to prime the generator tube first. And you have to get it right. Otherwise you will have an underprimed generator flooding the bottom of the stove with liquid kerosene that will soon catch fire. Priming the generator tube when using kerosene on a cold day can be very difficult. Alcohol paste may not be enough even with repeated tries. I suggest using a propane torch on the tube for priming since that seems to be pretty reliable. The second is that even if you are simmering with a properly primed stove while using kerosene, the low flame may not be enough to keep the prime and vaporize the inflowing kerosene before it hits the burner. Then the generator will also start feeding liquid kero to the bottom of the stove until it catches fire. You must keep a certain minimum amount of heat playing on the generator tube from the burner to keep vaporizing the fuel feeding through it. Actually, this can be a problem with even Coleman fuel in cold temperatures. I once left a model 425 on a low simmer to take the chill off of a camper shell on a cold night. Eventually, the flame went out because the prime was lost, but the fuel kept being pushed out by the fuel tank's air pressure. By the time I noticed, about an eighth of an inch of fuel had built up on the bottom of the stove . I was very lucky there was not a flash fire when I went to relight the stove with a match. The third risk with using kerosene is when you turn the stove on high to do something like boil water when you want the most heat. Depending upon the ambient temperature, the generator may not be able to generate enough heat to vaporize all the increased fuel flowing through the generator when fully open. It will flame up, and again, raw kero will flow out to the burner and eventually catch fire. Middle heat settings with kero actually work pretty well -- there is sort of a 'Goldilocks zone' -- with not too much, and not too little, fuel flowing through the generator tube. But before I'd try kerosene, and assuming Id run out of first-choice Coleman fuel or regular gasoline or propane, I'd try to use regular charcoal lighter fluid of the kind sold in supermarkets before loading up the tank with kerosene. Regular briquette charcoal lighter fluid is readily available and a little more volatile than regular kerosene, which can be hard to find. The extra volatility helps. It also seems to burn cleaner, with less smell and is less oily to handle. BTW, automotive gasoline can be burned quite awhile in a model 425 stove without clogging the generator. The 425's generator will last even longer with automotive fuel if you disassemble the generator from time to time and brush the deposits off the long spring thingy in the generator tube with a wire brush. The dual-fuel model 424 (which is what most people buy new these days) has a generator designed to hold more heat to prevent automotive fuel deposits when using regular gasoline. I don't have one, but I expect that model would also regularly clog up with automotive fuel -- only it would take a little longer. Apart from being stinky with all those added chemicals. that's just the nature of automotive fuel. Buying a few extra generators for your Coleman suitcase stoves -- whatever the model -- is always a good idea. Leaded gasoline has not been available in the USA for a couple of decades now, but you might still find it on a trip to Mexico or central America where Coleman fuel is unobtainable. And in case anyone was wondering, no, you cannot use the 424's generator in a model 425 stove to convert it to dual-fuel capability. It's designed so it won't fit the 425 stoves. Be safe. -- John
@Robert Lehnhoff White gas is available in the comex (paint stores) here in Mexico. If you can't find it I would use regular unleaded gasoline and clean the internal parts every 5 times you use it. Or use charcoal lighter fluid, it's a lot cleaner than gas.
@Robert Lehnhoff no problem. If the stove starts to burn inconsistently then it needs cleaned. For example if the flame is jumping around like a candle flame, then it needs cleaned. Just spray some carb cleaner through the generator. That's all it needs. I've heard a few drops of fuel injector cleaner in the gas will prevent it from becoming dirty. I'm trying that.
Great job on the video . I would include the set up time to boil to be fair. I'm never in that big of a hurry to cook. That is part of the fun of camping.
I've had nothing but good resolute using my propane 2-burner stove by Coleman, usd many times in my 74 dodge van for coffee n cooking, so it comes down to owner preference I've used mine well below zero with no issues so it's still up to the person but both are great products
Great information! I had 5-7 year white gas sitting around and saw another YTr use old WG. It takes longer run times to get to the same temp when using older fuel, but it does work and mine ran clean as a whistle. Like the propane bottle attachment! Will order one when I find one for sale. I also have a 2 burner propane stove as back-up and/or extra burners when needed. I would thin gasoline would be easier to find than propane when we collapse soon. Maybe wrong so I want options. Another reason for the propane only extra stove.
Thanks for a really good video. I now own two Coleman stoves like you. I was going to get rid of my old white gas one because it's more of a hassle, but now I think I'll keep both. Instead of using the small canisters I have a five lb and a 10 lb tank, which I use. Otherwise I couldn't bring myself to use to propane. On a side note, I bought one of those high heat ones that they came out with. I hated it. Could not simmer anything and everything burned. I returned it and got the three burner Coleman and I love it!
Nice video. I have an old white gas stove, I think from the 70s in my basement. Need to get it out and fire it up! I have always used a 2 burner propane stove. It was nice because it was slim (no side panels) and I could slide it into my saddlebags on the motorcycle when I went camping. The bad thing on the propane was that it did not work very well in cold temps and it pretty much never worked if it was very damp outside (rainy weather). So I think I am going to see if that old Coleman still works. Someone gave it to me 6-7 years ago or so....looks good. We'll see.
The propane stove definitely for people looking for a emergency stove for when the power goes out. It's simple for people to operate, the stove and fuel can be stored in a closet or cabinet indefinitely, and it can be used indoors with little ventilation. The multi-fuel is better for a prepper or remote camp where resupply can be a problem and you have to resort to make do with the fuel you have. Better cold weather operation is a plus too. I'm thinking on getting the propane just for emergency cooking during hurricane season. The cost of the propane stove being half the price is a deciding factor too. I already have a Coleman single burner 533 multi-fuel for bug out.
I prefer the liquid fuel best, premium gasoline is much easier and cheaper to find. I have other appliances that run on propane, it's to expensive to buy in 1 lb bottles so I refill them for pennies on the dollar
The simmer problem on the propane stove is due to the grease used in the valve stems of the knobs. There are several videos of how that can be fixed. I did mine and I can simmer easily without fine-tapping the dial.
I have the coleman classic propane stove. I also have 2 of the 425s and a 426D. I love coleman stuff, if you take care of most of it, it can last 50 years or more.
Excellent video. I learned a lot. I didn't know about the lp adapter for the 425, or that they will work on kero. Also refreshing to again hear about the working temperature differences between the 2 fuels. I have 2 Coleman's, a '72 425E and a '95 5426-700 (propane). The 5426 is 7500 btu per burner. Fyi I have been reading up on the Camp Chef "Mountain Series" propane suitcase stoves and some of their burners are 20,000 btu's. Mixed reviews about durability, adjustability, etc. though.
Thanks Blackbear Prepper! I have the white gas duel fuel stove but I haven't used gasoline yet because of all the additives, white gas is much cleaner. If I remember correctly, there is a BTU advantage to propane vs white gas. I didn't know about the propane adapter for the liquid fuel stove, that was very useful, thanks!
I prefer the liquid fuel units because a gallon of Coleman White Fuel can go much further than a single camp canister of propane, the liquid units can operate in colder temperatures, and there's the added feature of the fuel flexibility in the newer ones... If you run out of Coleman White Fuel, you can easily siphon some unleaded gasoline from out of your vehicle's gas tank, OR disconnect the liquid tank assembly completely and use a propane canister... Nothing like being in the great outdoors in the morning with the first coffee going on a stove top percolator, and then getting those eggs and bacon off to the races!
On the "dual fuel" white gas/unleaded gas is when using unleaded gas the dye that fuel manufacturer puts in their unleaded gas tends to clog up the stove generators.
Good job on the video. Go with the 424, its' a dual fuel stove and is made for gasoline unlike the 425. I just got a mint one for $10 at the thrift store.
we do a lot of big breakfasts is in dinners we use the same stove we just add more stoves for the bigger group for group your size usually you can get away with three to four of these but there is a video of coming up of my outdoor kitchen
I have a Coleman 413g that looks just like the 425's. My dad had it for as long as I can remember. I was born in 1973 so it was probably from the 1960's.
GOOD VIDEO MINE IS FROM THE 70'S,........I wondered about what was going on with the flame and what it should look like. There's colman fuel it seem's to work well the other fuel you get at walmart it does not seem to work as well. I'm talking about how long it takes to boil liquids.
I was at good luck with Coleman fuel that's pretty much how I run in them I know the new stuff sometimes works better in certain stoves and some if yours does not run well on that I would recommend sticking with it most the time I get my fuel at sportsman's Warehouse if it's available
What are you talking about easier to store the propane stove? I like you you explain that one 😅. I've been using white fuel coleman stoves over 45 years. They are the best over all. Fk propane, it is far more dangerous than white fuel. It was a interesting video, I don't understand the reasoning behind the dB level test like someone is really going to be concerned with the noise level of a camp stove ??? . The video was good Content, very good explanation of each stove . Definitely a Five Star🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 video. Great Job 👍
8 years later this review still came in handy. Thank you sir!
You are very welcome glad you like the video sorry it's taking me this long to get back to you
I literally bought both of these stoves today! I got the propane stove at Walmart, and the 425b stove on Craigslist for $25.00, and it's in like new condition. This was a very informative video!
I have used both stoves for 40 years. I can't believe I have been camping that long. Wonderful video. Older quality Coleman stoves are great. I just did not know until recently that I have been a prepper my whole life.!!!!
Instablaster...
I’m 40 years old. I’ve been using the Coleman liquid fuel stove my grandpa gave me when I was 16 this entire time. It has never failed me. I’ve used it many times every year since I’ve had it. Probably burnt through thirty gallons of fuel. I’ve only had to replace the pump plunger once. Best car camping stove ever.
The Coleman’s will live beyond us!! I’m da same age as you’n 😂😂😂
I have VOLUNTEERED at the local Goodwill.
We received a 1949 3-BURNER stove in LIKE NEW...never used condition in the ORIGINAL BOX from 1949.
Being a camper...I priced it (I did all the pricing) at $25.00.
It literally FLEW OFF the shelves.
Glad that somebody with a real treat.
Also, another plus for the older white gas Coleman stove is the fact that there are good used ones available at nearly every garage sale and e marketplace site at prices well under the cost of a new unit. Coleman stoves, lanterns and canoes rock! 🇨🇦
I found one at a camp site that someone had thrown out next to the propane bottle return cage. Nothing wrong with it and still had a bit of gas in the tank. My guess is that the user did not know how to use it properly.
Just picked one up at a garage sale for $10. Just needed to be washed but works like new!
Nice vice info. I tried all kinds of camp stoves but I always go back to old school Coleman white gas. Years ago we ate cold food on our hunting trip. Propane stove flames was so low in cold temps, now white gas is a no fail, no brainer. 🤙🏽🤙🏽 keep up the good works
We used the white gas stove in the Canadian army & I've used them down to -45c. Spare parts are easily accessible, as long as the green case is still good you can get all other parts, you might want to have a spare generator, & something to lube the pump. We'd use them in the Arctic tents in winter for heat & cook in the summer.
i have the one on the left. i bought it in the seventies and still works like a champ. i’ve used to cast bullets on it for years.
Yup, the stoves are great. The fuel is better ! We ran out of gas late a night trying to get to Al's parents house (3am) and had passed up a station off the interstate that was still open. Al poured the Coleman Fuel straight from the can through a funnel made from the Rand McNally Atlas Cover into our 1973 VW Bus. We were able to drive BACK 20 miles to that station, buy real gas and continue on to Al's parents with our 9 month old son that night. Al has NEVER run out of gas ever again.... 😎
Bought a Coleman at garage sale 2 years ago, best 10 bucks I ever spent. 10 cents of gas to fill and last about 5 hours on full Cooked some dang good meals on this and saved my butt on a cold night too, lol
I also have both style Coleman stoves, my pick is white gas. Once you learn how to use it, it just so reliable and stays lit in the wind blowing on the burners.
I’ve got 2 old Coleman liquid fuel stoves. A 2 burner and a 3 burner. I’ve used both for probably 50 years.
When I light them, I will turn the line valve to the down position once the burner flame goes blue. The burner flame will go back to a yellow flame for 2-3 seconds then right back to the blue flame. I may be getting old now but learned and enjoy cooking on both of them!
Super video! The very best video I've found comparing the two versions of Coleman stoves! I've used the liquid stove since I was a kid but, regrettably, gave it away years ago...now looking to purchase a stove for emergency service and wanted to explore both models available today. Thanks again for such a great video and comparision!
One of the most detailed and comprehensive comparisons between the two stoves I think I have ever seen. Thanks.
Dad gave me the one on the left.
It’s 30+ years old and all I have done was replace the plunger gasket/spring.
It will always go out with me.
Are you turning the valve to the down position after one minute or so?
If you're not. The stove will run out the compressed air and go out.
I have a three burner Coleman stove I bought in about 1975 that my grandkids are fighting over who will inherit it. It's a workhorse! Great video.
The Coleman 425 liquid fuel stove definitely! You can't beat the versatility it offers. It can run on liquid fuel or propane. Just add the propane generator adapter, propane tank, and your set!
Where can you find the propane generator adapter for the dual fuel cap stove. Been searching the internet but haven't found one yet. Thanks
@m.o.f8720 mr heater makes a nice one. It was on Amazon last I checked.
I got a 50's model from a friend at a yard sale. I then got a dual fuel later that'd been used very little. The 50's burns as good as the newer one. I don't want a propane stove. And the hiss is pure comfort! Thanks!
I agree also more nostalgic filling it up pumping the pressure up :)
@@alwayscuriousalwayslearnin The gas lasts longer than propane too.
For me the main advantage of liquid fueled stoves is that the fuel is far more dense. For example, a 1lb propane canister will run your stove for less time than a similarly sized container of liquid fuel.
While true, the propane ones are SO much easier to use...turn it on, light and cook......compared to pumping up the tank, messing with liquid fuel, etc.....that propane is the only way to go. Same for lanterns. Want to cook a LONG time, get a hose adapter for a 20lb propane bottle. I grew up camping in the 50-60's, and I'd NEVER go back to a liquid fuel version.
@@edsmith4414 Yes, but they keep going up in price and you cannot get them easily when traveling - especially in Mexico.
@@edsmith4414 well I car/tent camp for several weeks a trip. Carrying the bulky propane tank or paying the high prices on the camping stores for the little ones would be ridiculous in my case. Pumping is not a big deal, a bit of exercise and you have a stove that can cook much longer and in my opinion hotter than propane. Now if you’re in an RV you have plenty of space but RV is not for me at all, then again everyone has preferences using what works for you.
@@edsmith4414Hank Hill, is that you?
Propane is easier if you have easy access to it. I like keeping a liquid stove because you can burn white fuel, camp fuel, kerosene, and unleaded gas.
The 60 dB is from the barking dog in the background. Lol!
Why cats > dogs
I just reunited with using a Coleman stove. I grew up with my dad using one everywhere then fast forward to me at aged 50. I got a second hand 424 and was pretty freaked out at setting fire to gasoline but watching this video helped me understand using it a lot. Outdoor cooking is good. Thanks.
Makes me feel nostalgic! My parents had these stoves... liquid fuel ones back in the 70's. I remember my father buying a three burner at a garage sale and was so happy because they already had the two burner one. They are great! I really don't camp all that much but I think it might be time to start! :)
Get back into it! I just bought a 3 burner on kijiji on Saturday didn't know they existed until I saw it so had to have it.
Got a 2 burner and a 3 burner Coleman stove. Love them. Got a one burner butane to use in the house for emergencies.
Found a 425f made in 1983 that looked like it had been used once or twice at a garage sale. This was about 2 years ago and paid $7 for it.
Is that a Rottweiler
Great score.
I’ll give 14 for it. See...you can double your money. 😁
I still have my parents one that we brought over in the states in the same year and the only item I have had to replace is the nozzle. Difference with ours is, that it looks like it came from 1983 and been to every war in between.
Thanks for taking the time to explain the difference between these stoves. 👍🏻
My dad was using unleaded fuel in his stove, early mid sixties, before they had duel fuel. I have 3 old Colman fuel gallon cans some one gave me from the 70's, un opened. Just tried one on my stove. The fuel is fine.
Thank you for making a really good video. I have been using both stoves for over 44 years. God bless Old Coleman.
And there main products still made in the USA!!
I accidentally forgot to fill up the tank on my old 70s liquid fuel Coleman stove a couple camp trips ago and ran out of fuel half way thru cooking breakfast. After moving skillets to the fire I remembered I had zippo lighter fluid with me, dumped it into the tank and she lit right back up just fine. I'll never get rid of my old trooper, it's so simple and has never let me down. Plus the fuel is cheap and lasts forever. I've had a large can of Coleman fuel for 10 years now and am finally getting down to needing a new can this year. I don't camp every other day but frequently enough that that is pretty impressive to me.
I had one of these 25 years ago. I lent it to my parents for a road trip and never retrieved it. Dad still had it in his shed somewhere, time to retrieve it I think.
Excellent video! I have owned 1 of the propane stoves and everything you said about yours rang true for the one I had. I have always wondered about the liquid fuel stoves and your presentation was VERY helpful. I think I'll look around and get one of each now. I have a "Buddy" propane heater for emergencies or camping heat so I have plenty of green 1lb. bottles and the fittings to refill them. But I can see the efficacy and I believe, the slight superiority of the liquid fuel stove in terms of economy, function and versatility
Several things about the two stoves,white gas is the hottest of all the stoves including the isobutane backpacking stove.It all comes down to convience and application.White gas if used indoors puts of an odor same with the lantern,propane emits little odor stove/lantern,obviously one is more compact than the other,your best bet for camping with propane is to used a #20 cylinder with a tree that way there are several outlets the top outlet for your lantern the side outlets for whatever.I use a gas line and hook it up to my stove,it takes a while to run a #20 cylinder empty,do love the white gas for the reason as mentioned for the same amount of fuel white gas will longer,with propane and a #1 cylinder you will have to pack out when empty,whereas there are storage containers for white gas.I used a single burner white gas stove when I went to the boundary waters I had purchased an outback oven which was totally collapsible and backed a cherry pie while we were there.Novel.Used them all as mentioned,application will determine what to use.Thanks for the info keep putting out the videos.
Thank you for the comment
Coleman stoves are great. I use one in my outdoor garage along with my wood-burning stove. One addition I made was to bolt down the unit to a table top. It keeps the stove from sliding around while cooking and is a safety factor. I have also found out the cast iron skillets and pots work best on these units! Thanks for sharing.
When the older stoves were designed, cast iron was more commonly used. Notice the heavy duty grate on the 425, white gas unit? It's built for heavier cook ware than is common today. My ex and I used one of those for 2 years. As our only cooktop. Now I'm wondering what happened to that stove?
I love cast iron skillets. The coated pots and pans will give you cancer as the coating wears off and gets into the food, then in your gut!
I own a dual fuel Coleman...love it!!. This has been passed down from my older brother he got it in the 70's
I have a Coleman stove that I bought back in 1971 and I am still using that stove when I go camping.
Great video - My 2 cents. Costs of white gas around here (Coleman, Crown etc.) have gotten ridiculous so I have sold all my equipment and gone propane - I now refill the Flame King 1 pound propane bottles and it's a WAY lower cost per BTU now as white gas and I've found it much easier to find propane when travelling (it's everywhere) than white gas. And when I did find white gas while travelling it was $15-$20 a gallon in remote areas and sometimes more!
Propane is about $3.00 a gallon here and stable across the nation and that gets you about 91,000 BTU's - White gas around here is $8-$12 a gallon for 115,000 BTU's. A 20 pound tank of propane is about 4.7 gallons and takes about the same space as 5 gallons of white gas so storage isn't an issue.
So that's something to think about these days depending on where you live.
Best video on UA-cam for these stoves! Thanks
I love the sound of the 425!!! Reminds me of my father, when he went out for deer hunting, with his buddys, before I was old enough to go with him. That was in the early '70's.... He still has his old 425, still working (just needed to oil the rubber washer inside the pump, if was dried out) And I have mine... I also have different propane stoves, but nothing brings me those nice memories. (And how about the taste and smell of bread toasted on those burners??? Wow!!)
I use premium gasoline in all my Colman liquid stoves the trick I use and works very well. Is seafoam mixed in I don’t buy white gas it a rip off. The seafoam keeps your fuel system clean. I have taken old Colman stoves that barely work let the mixture set in the system for around one year dump out the tank the fuel is usually brown remove the needle and clean it usually that fix’s the problem
I liked their stoves so much in the 70's that I bought other accessories, like their oven. Their oven was made well but fanciful fiction. Keeping the temp steady enough outdoors to really cook something interesting is a challenge to say the least. Coleman didn't always hit things out of the park, but for the most part they were reliable.
the coleman oven works, but requires some practice to get it to work well. not for people with no patience..
@@marzsit9833 Yeah it works, but it doesn't work 'well' except on dead calm days.
Thanks for this helpful video! I have the liquid fuel version from the 80's. going to dust it off and do some camping again. And going to look for the propane attachment you showed. Thanks again!
I would love to see a Kerosene test w the priming method you mention.
Now I know that a Coleman stove and the neighbors dog barking have a combined DB rating of 60.
Liquid gas is my kind I had stoves like these all my camping years. I picked a Coleman for $10 it was 37 years old and was never used, great buy.I love them I have 3 of them.
I just bought a 413 g for 5 dollars at a yard sale and it works perfect... I did buy the propane conversion for it
I like the nostalgia of the old stoves and lanterns. I have a stove and lantern from the 60's and although my tent is from the 90's it is a heavy canvas wall tent with a floor. If there is any kind of a small hike in, I have a light weight home made cart for the tent. If it's more of a grand hike, I have a light weight canvas pup tent with canvas floor that I've had since boy scouts in the 60's. Those trips are cooking on camp fires and flashlights.
For a spark lighter, I use a flint acetylene torch starter. Same thing as yours.
Excellent input and examples of the pros and cons. Greatly appreciated, and I've decided on buying both types, just in case, cause it gets very cold in my parts of the country, so thank you.
FyI, propane does not work well, below zero.
Great video! Im a young, single mom and my own father even lives far away now so I have to learn a lot on youtube about topics I never thought I would even have to learn about! My daughter and I went through hurricane Sandy which destroyed our home and for weeks we were living off of Red Cross food and Halloween candy lol. This time we have a coleman stove but going into this Hurricane season, I realize I had no clue how to use it so this is super helpful, thank you so much! Now I just have to take it out of storage and figure out which stove I have lol. I was just at Walmart and had no clue which fuel to buy...but you made everything very clear and took the fear I had of using it away plus we love camping so hopefully we can use it even if there is no hurricane haha. Thanks again!!! 🏕🍳🔥👩👧
That’s why they should
print directions on the lid of the stove.🙄
bksaun as she said, she is a beginner. It’s in storage so OBVIOUSLY she can’t see whatever directions you speak of. I hope it made your day to be a dick for absolutely no reason. Please, for the love, grow the hell up. Immaturity is ugly on you.
@@bksaun Mine doesn't have the directions on the lid of the stove. Not all of them do. 🤫
Jennifer F my apologies, I should have said stamped instead of print, I think everyone took it wrong. seems everyone is looking to jump down someone’s throat at every chance. My point was if they stamped instructions instead of stickers that wear away , the instructions would be permanent. Guess I didn’t make myself very clear. But you sure did.
We switched over to the liquid stove after using a propane stove for many years because of fuel availability in remote areas and because of the far superior control. Percolated coffee is close to impossible on a propane because it won't go low enough, also too easy burn food. Our second propane stove had the grate higher than the slim model as shown here, but still not good enough. Because the liquid model seems old-fashioned, they are cheap and easy to find, as mentioned.
Ive been in the woods allmy life . And 45 years ive been a long haul trucker ive used both stoves. I like the white gas over propain. . I had my kitching sorta on the truck . Cook my own food. Saved money . About 10 graND a year .
Man what a greatly informative video, 5star my friend.
An up date. I just got a brand new Colman stove new in the box . Never used bate on it is 1953 . Got it for 20 buck at a flee market in New Hampshire. I now have 5 stoves and 8 lanterns all work mint and like new . Deals are out there , you just have to look . Can you make a survival video with the stove in the rain or snow or high winds that would be cool . Keep up the good work
Love this video. After camping 60 years I find the propane cleaner and less messy to use. I camp out of an Rv that has a stove I just rather cook outside at the table. Time for me to switch to propane cartridge. No more spilling fuel, no more pumping and waiting a minute. Yes, I know it’s fun but hey.
I just got a 1981 coleman two burner stove 425 in it's original box and never been opened from ebay and excited to put it to good use on my hunting trips. Nostalgic wins over modern cheaper models any day
For me there are two things to consider. One is that all Coleman liquid fuel appliances use a part known as a generator which needs to be replaced at unpredictable times and mostly when I didn't have a spare on hand. The other point is that possessing appliances using different fuels necessitates keeping all those fuels on hand. That becomes more cumbersome than having all devices running on one fuel type.
One last secondary point is that a Coleman liquid fuel stove heats things considerably faster than a propane version. Unless you're heating a lot of water up quickly such as for cooking macaroni or for showering, I don't see much advantage to the liquid fuel version. Then there's the pumping to pressurize the fuel tank. I was once a firm believer in the liquid fuel equipment, partly influenced by my dad. Im now a propane user.
I restore old Coleman stoves and lanterns as a hobby and rarely does a generator on a stove need replacing. If the fuel is old, gummy deposits will form on the heavy spring inside of the generator and in the tip, but this is easily cleaned with carb cleaner or fresh white gas and a toothbrush or cotton swabs. The generator can be unscrewed from the assembly to access the inside. The more common thing is for old gas to be left in the tank and flat deposits form and break loose to float around and get sucked tight against the pickup tube (that feeds the generator) and the stove will go out with a very loud and startling POP! So the tank is something I clean out as well, with about 20 small nuts that I put in and swish around until the bottom of the tank is clean. (Pull them out with a magnet.) Always empty the tank at the end of camping season to prevent problems like these. Although white gas can last for several years, people usually forget and it suddenly turns into 5 years, and then things are gummed up.
@@richardfrey9337 Your experience with generators is certainly much different than mine. Authentic stove and lantern fuel made generators last longer than with white gas, but still no treat. I wonder if white gas is still available.
@@richardfrey9337 Never saw old Coleman fuel gum up. Old auto gas yes in an old lantern or stove.. Leave full tank Coleman fuel in stored stove or lantern so the tank doesn't rust..
big heavy propane cans are pricey.
I went back to the white gas a few years back after a fishing trip in the Columbia R gorge. The wind was blowing a steady 25 mph in the evening and my LP gas Colman , just the one you have, wouldn’t get the oil in a black frying pan hot enough to fry the fish we had caught. We always used white gas Colman’s back in the 60’s and 70’s but I start using the LP stove for convenience but I’m back to gas now and I like it much better.
Super helpful video
For whatever it’s worth I’m glad I bought the propane for the exact reason you mentioned. Knock on wood but I’ve never had a problem with it not working in the cold or wind. But coldest temp I’ve used it in was probably 25F.
Thanks for the video
Super glad you like the video thank you for your comment
I know this is an old video so not sure if you still read the comments but, this is a fantastic and thoughtful camp stove review. Just subscribed. Thanks.
Interesting video. One way to reduce proppane cost is a five pound cylinder that's easily refillable and a connecting hose. May also (with the valve on the tank) be able to adjust the simmer on the propane stove.
Excellent video. Solely for the multi fuel capability, the Coleman stoves are highly valuable gears to have in the garage. Especially since you can buy a used one for $25-50. And the maintenance/cleaning of the jets/tubes etc is quite easy. This is not a $200 fancy light but clogged and unfixable bottle stove. Its a big, fat, solid, unbreakable, out of its time stove. And it could well spare your family a miserable experience one day (hurricane, flood, etc).
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We used our Coleman 424 Dual Fuel during Hurricane Harvey.
coleman is a tribute to the phrase, "they don't make em' like they used to."
A company called Jarden group bought Coleman and a bunch of other brand names, basically most brands found at Wallymart. They then had their engineering team engineer all of the quality out of the products to increase their profits. Yes, Harden is owned by a bunch of jewish guys in NY.
@@elmatador6589 😱😩🥺. That is sad. The Coleman name goes way back in time. Not sure when Coleman started manufacturing their line of products but, according to my father-in-law, they used Coleman lanterns during WW2.
All of my camping appliances were made by Coleman starting back in the mid 1960's and still work like a charm. I've had to replace the generators, globes and, the pump mechanism on them but that's to be expected. They've been used a lot.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
Now made in China, say no more.
@@Blagger3000 🥴😠😡🤬😢.
@DANDNB Jarden was acquired by Newell-Rubbermaid about 3 years ago. Look it up. Google or some such.
Im 52 years old and I still remember being on then McKenzie river Around fort Simpson N.W.T. back in the seventies in my parents river boat which was totally enclosed and we used to go way up river every weekend in the summer and then we would just drift back to Simpson all weekend and dad had canoes and a small ski boat type boat we would tow for my older brothers and sisters to water ski behind and mom had two of those in the boat and that's how she cooked for us! It was a different life back then before television was brought into the community I'll say this television wrecked everything! Two years after television we pretty much stopped doing that!
Thank you for that glimpse back in time. It's before my time. I grew up in the USA in the 1970's and always had a TV, but also played outside until dark every day. I hope our children will know good days like that...
Excellent Video! Thank you for sharing. I loved learning that you could run the liquid stove on propane with the converter. So cool. Thanks.
You can also get an adaptor+hose for the converter so you can run it from BBQ propane tanks or larger LPG tanks.
Great video. Thank you for the detailed information. I have a vintage white gas stove and am considering replacing it with a new propane version. I was not aware of the propane adapter. After watching your video I am planning to just get the propane adapter. Keep up the good work!
I have an off grid cabin. I'm also at 6,100 ft elevation. Propane is not as effective at this altitude, therefore I use the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove. I have no problems boiling water with the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove.
On propane, I must use a lid to get water to boil.
So, I converted over to the Coleman 424 duel fuel stove.
From a survival point of view, my opinion is propane will not be existent b4 gasoline runs out at the pump.
It also used to be that Crown white gas, was half the price of Coleman white gas. Suddenly, Crown fuel, is the same price as Coleman fuel, now. So, we found a bunch (5)of new 424 generators at Habitat for Humanity and jumped on them. The price was right! Picked up one new pump assembly and 2 new Coleman rubber pumps and the clips.
Liquid fuel stove all the way!!!
In President Trump's America We Burn Gas and Kick A$$. Propane = Profane.
MAGA
Hank Hill hates you, but I don’t.
@Dane Welkersen I prefer it for many reason. Much better flame control. Depending on the stove, it is generally a lot more quiet. You can use white gas, unleader gasoline, etc... so much more flexible. If times ever get tough, it is easier to find fuel. Just some of my thoughts.
@Dane Welkersen Liquid is Safer.(especially kerosene over gasolene) Liquid fuel you can see and smell if there is a leak. Propane is extremely dangerous. Odourless and invisible and heavier than normal air. If propane leaks it creates a layer of heavy gas which is odourless and extremely flammable that sinks to the floor. A spark can ignite it and the vapour tends to cling to you...so very very dangerous. I personally know two families that experienced tragedy due to using propane...the tragedies would never have happened if they were using a liquid fuel.
Propane has an indefinite shelf life which is why they’re always used for backup generators. They’re plentiful and the fuel burns for a long time and burns clean. If times ever get tough, hate to tell you all but liquid gas expires and if nobody is producing it anymore because of a shtf scenario, it ain’t gonna work
Mine is from probably 1974,.....until last year it still had the same fuel,.....yeah it worked fine the bluest blue you ever seen,.............but after I dumped the fuel and put new in.
It was used till 1976,.....moved and it was on a shelf. I think it was used in 2 blizzards.
Coleman had some great stuff.
i use regular unleaded in my stoves and lanterns but i also put about 2 or 3 cap fulls of berrymans b12 in each tank as well and i dont have to clean out the generators very often they work great just a suggestion to you all
Would seafoam do the job?
@@sherryn39455 sea foam is more of an oil based product. I don't see any harm in trying it. I just always used berrymans B12 cause my grandfather used it. It's more of a harsh cleaner.. if you use seafoam. Let me know how it works 😁
Just picked up a 1976 colmen 2 burner model 425 in new condition for free. Stoked!
I have both of them and both work great but my favorite is the propane stove. Its easyer to find propane than coleman fuel. Here anyway. And propane stores for 30 years without treating it. My generator is propane to. Sometimes I wish for a power outage. I'll keep prepping because it'll happen again some day
unless you have people resting their heads ON the stove do a DB reading about 10-20 feet away. I doubt anyone will wake because of a burner going on a stove. There is no need to depressurize a tank if you over pump and have the flames pulling away.. Just turn down the knob to reduce the pressure into the burner and it will settle down. Good video, good info. I have 3 suitcase stoves picked up a 3 burner a few months back, Love it!!!!!
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Honestly, the racket of the sheet metal moving around as you open and position the stove and the noise of pumping up the tank is going to be far more disruptive than the hiss of the gas flow.
The sound test was fun trivia but completely unnecessary, in my opinion.
Nice Video. I love my 3-burner 426D and have it setup for White Gas and Propane. Unleaded gas is filthy and too many other additives. I would suggest you get a 5 lb or 11 lb propane tank that is meant for refilling, or buy the 1 lb. propane tanks that are meant to be filled instead of the single-use canisters. Coleman's 3-burner stove has not been in production for many years and I wouldn't pass up on a cheap older one. You can find all of these stoves used and often in like-new conditon and/or you can get them running perfectly with a little maintenance. You can lubricate the propane stove knobs and get it a little better simmering adjustment. I will definitely pickup one of those starters.
As a kid, camping mid 70's to early 80's, we used a coleman stove & lantern...with coleman fuel. This dual fuel...idea...? White gas (coleman fuel or equivalent), Un-leaded gasoline (can you get leaded now, or for the past 30+ years?), Kerosene (interesting), Lamp oil (never thought of that), & last Propane (attachment needed). Seems as though Dual fuel is now a Multi fuel option. How do these other fuels stack up to...I guess coleman (white gas fuels)? Do you need to change out the pump seals for different fuels?
Propane every day of the week...mind you, I love my old Peak 1, but for a typical camping weekend, my propane stoves (a two-burner Century Primus and a single-burner Coleman) start easy and are low on drama. If you have a 20-pound cylinder for your gas grill at home, you can refill the spent 1-pound cylinders with an adaptor.
I have a propane two burner stove and have not had any problem starting and using it below 20 degrees F. I worked in a fire-tower for five years and used it to cook my meals. At the end of the season qlmost every morning was at 20 or lower and it always fired on the first try.
also google how to modify a lantern generator you will come across a guy that wraps copper wire around the spring or the cleaning needle . ive done both and they do work and if the generator in my lantern get sticky or clogged up i just use carb or brake parts cleaner in spray can to clean and flush them out and they work fine. so dont throw away your old lantern or stove generators. just clean them and you are off to the races again. hope this can help some people and it dose help save some money in the long run. ive been doing this for over 20 years
Get propane conversion for the Coleman White Gas stove and have the best of both worlds with the exception of the spark ignition. My Coleman White Gas stove is the model 425C.
just checked my stove is a 425E 1967-1970 apparently. Bought it in an antique mall. It looks like new. Had to fire it up after watching this. Going to get some fuel to put away as what is in it I put in it when I bought it several years ago and worked just fine.
I have 3 1980's double burners, two propane and 1 white gas and a single burner 502 that's also white gas. Love vintage tools.
I've burnt kerosene in a model 425 Coleman stove. It will work, but I think it is dangerous. There are three problems: The first one is the one BlackBear Prepper mentioned. You have to prime the generator tube first. And you have to get it right. Otherwise you will have an underprimed generator flooding the bottom of the stove with liquid kerosene that will soon catch fire.
Priming the generator tube when using kerosene on a cold day can be very difficult. Alcohol paste may not be enough even with repeated tries. I suggest using a propane torch on the tube for priming since that seems to be pretty reliable.
The second is that even if you are simmering with a properly primed stove while using kerosene, the low flame may not be enough to keep the prime and vaporize the inflowing kerosene before it hits the burner. Then the generator will also start feeding liquid kero to the bottom of the stove until it catches fire. You must keep a certain minimum amount of heat playing on the generator tube from the burner to keep vaporizing the fuel feeding through it.
Actually, this can be a problem with even Coleman fuel in cold temperatures. I once left a model 425 on a low simmer to take the chill off of a camper shell on a cold night.
Eventually, the flame went out because the prime was lost, but the fuel kept being pushed out by the fuel tank's air pressure. By the time I noticed, about an eighth of an inch of fuel had built up on the bottom of the stove . I was very lucky there was not a flash fire when I went to relight the stove with a match.
The third risk with using kerosene is when you turn the stove on high to do something like boil water when you want the most heat. Depending upon the ambient temperature, the generator may not be able to generate enough heat to vaporize all the increased fuel flowing through the generator when fully open. It will flame up, and again, raw kero will flow out to the burner and eventually catch fire.
Middle heat settings with kero actually work pretty well -- there is sort of a 'Goldilocks zone' -- with not too much, and not too little, fuel flowing through the generator tube. But before I'd try kerosene, and assuming Id run out of first-choice Coleman fuel or regular gasoline or propane, I'd try to use regular charcoal lighter fluid of the kind sold in supermarkets before loading up the tank with kerosene. Regular briquette charcoal lighter fluid is readily available and a little more volatile than regular kerosene, which can be hard to find. The extra volatility helps. It also seems to burn cleaner, with less smell and is less oily to handle.
BTW, automotive gasoline can be burned quite awhile in a model 425 stove without clogging the generator. The 425's generator will last even longer with automotive fuel if you disassemble the generator from time to time and brush the deposits off the long spring thingy in the generator tube with a wire brush.
The dual-fuel model 424 (which is what most people buy new these days) has a generator designed to hold more heat to prevent automotive fuel deposits when using regular gasoline. I don't have one, but I expect that model would also regularly clog up with automotive fuel -- only it would take a little longer. Apart from being stinky with all those added chemicals. that's just the nature of automotive fuel. Buying a few extra generators for your Coleman suitcase stoves -- whatever the model -- is always a good idea.
Leaded gasoline has not been available in the USA for a couple of decades now, but you might still find it on a trip to Mexico or central America where Coleman fuel is unobtainable.
And in case anyone was wondering, no, you cannot use the 424's generator in a model 425 stove to convert it to dual-fuel capability. It's designed so it won't fit the 425 stoves.
Be safe.
-- John
@Robert Lehnhoff White gas is available in the comex (paint stores) here in Mexico. If you can't find it I would use regular unleaded gasoline and clean the internal parts every 5 times you use it. Or use charcoal lighter fluid, it's a lot cleaner than gas.
@Robert Lehnhoff no problem. If the stove starts to burn inconsistently then it needs cleaned. For example if the flame is jumping around like a candle flame, then it needs cleaned. Just spray some carb cleaner through the generator. That's all it needs. I've heard a few drops of fuel injector cleaner in the gas will prevent it from becoming dirty. I'm trying that.
I paid $5 for a 1979 model 425E Coleman at a neighbor's moving sale about 8 years ago. Best $5 ever!
Deals like that are hard to come by well worth it though
Great job on the video . I would include the set up time to boil to be fair. I'm never in that big of a hurry to cook. That is part of the fun of camping.
I've had nothing but good resolute using my propane 2-burner stove by Coleman, usd many times in my 74 dodge van for coffee n cooking, so it comes down to owner preference I've used mine well below zero with no issues so it's still up to the person but both are great products
Great information! I had 5-7 year white gas sitting around and saw another YTr use old WG. It takes longer run times to get to the same temp when using older fuel, but it does work and mine ran clean as a whistle. Like the propane bottle attachment! Will order one when I find one for sale. I also have a 2 burner propane stove as back-up and/or extra burners when needed. I would thin gasoline would be easier to find than propane when we collapse soon. Maybe wrong so I want options. Another reason for the propane only extra stove.
i love these Coleman stoves they last for generations and i have packed them into the woods for non car camping too
Thanks for a really good video. I now own two Coleman stoves like you. I was going to get rid of my old white gas one because it's more of a hassle, but now I think I'll keep both. Instead of using the small canisters I have a five lb and a 10 lb tank, which I use. Otherwise I couldn't bring myself to use to propane. On a side note, I bought one of those high heat ones that they came out with. I hated it. Could not simmer anything and everything burned. I returned it and got the three burner Coleman and I love it!
Nice video. I have an old white gas stove, I think from the 70s in my basement. Need to get it out and fire it up! I have always used a 2 burner propane stove. It was nice because it was slim (no side panels) and I could slide it into my saddlebags on the motorcycle when I went camping. The bad thing on the propane was that it did not work very well in cold temps and it pretty much never worked if it was very damp outside (rainy weather). So I think I am going to see if that old Coleman still works. Someone gave it to me 6-7 years ago or so....looks good. We'll see.
The propane stove definitely for people looking for a emergency stove for when the power goes out. It's simple for people to operate, the stove and fuel can be stored in a closet or cabinet indefinitely, and it can be used indoors with little ventilation. The multi-fuel is better for a prepper or remote camp where resupply can be a problem and you have to resort to make do with the fuel you have. Better cold weather operation is a plus too. I'm thinking on getting the propane just for emergency cooking during hurricane season. The cost of the propane stove being half the price is a deciding factor too. I already have a Coleman single burner 533 multi-fuel for bug out.
I prefer the liquid fuel best, premium gasoline is much easier and cheaper to find.
I have other appliances that run on propane, it's to expensive to buy in 1 lb bottles so I refill them for pennies on the dollar
The simmer problem on the propane stove is due to the grease used in the valve stems of the knobs. There are several videos of how that can be fixed. I did mine and I can simmer easily without fine-tapping the dial.
I have the coleman classic propane stove. I also have 2 of the 425s and a 426D. I love coleman stuff, if you take care of most of it, it can last 50 years or more.
Excellent video. I learned a lot. I didn't know about the lp adapter for the 425, or that they will work on kero. Also refreshing to again hear about the working temperature differences between the 2 fuels. I have 2 Coleman's, a '72 425E and a '95 5426-700 (propane). The 5426 is 7500 btu per burner. Fyi I have been reading up on the Camp Chef "Mountain Series" propane suitcase stoves and some of their burners are 20,000 btu's. Mixed reviews about durability, adjustability, etc. though.
Thanks Blackbear Prepper! I have the white gas duel fuel stove but I haven't used gasoline yet because of all the additives, white gas is much cleaner. If I remember correctly, there is a BTU advantage to propane vs white gas. I didn't know about the propane adapter for the liquid fuel stove, that was very useful, thanks!
White gas has more energy and cooks faster than propane.
I got one of those white gas coleman stoves. Is what my family used when i was younger and is what i wanted👍 i like them
I prefer the liquid fuel units because a gallon of Coleman White Fuel can go much further than a single camp canister of propane, the liquid units can operate in colder temperatures, and there's the added feature of the fuel flexibility in the newer ones... If you run out of Coleman White Fuel, you can easily siphon some unleaded gasoline from out of your vehicle's gas tank, OR disconnect the liquid tank assembly completely and use a propane canister... Nothing like being in the great outdoors in the morning with the first coffee going on a stove top percolator, and then getting those eggs and bacon off to the races!
On the "dual fuel" white gas/unleaded gas is when using unleaded gas the dye that fuel manufacturer puts in their unleaded gas tends to clog up the stove generators.
Good job on the video. Go with the 424, its' a dual fuel stove and is made for gasoline unlike the 425. I just got a mint one for $10 at the thrift store.
Depending on your prices for propane I paid 15 dollars for my 5 gallon tank of propane. Yes I also have a hose from my tank to the stove .
Awesome, thanks for the info. Can you do a vid on what you use/how you set up for big crowds? Say, 20-50 ppl....
we do a lot of big breakfasts is in dinners we use the same stove we just add more stoves for the bigger group for group your size usually you can get away with three to four of these but there is a video of coming up of my outdoor kitchen
I have a Coleman 413g that looks just like the 425's. My dad had it for as long as I can remember. I was born in 1973 so it was probably from the 1960's.
GOOD VIDEO MINE IS FROM THE 70'S,........I wondered about what was going on with the flame and what it should look like.
There's colman fuel it seem's to work well the other fuel you get at walmart it does not seem to work as well.
I'm talking about how long it takes to boil liquids.
I was at good luck with Coleman fuel that's pretty much how I run in them I know the new stuff sometimes works better in certain stoves and some if yours does not run well on that I would recommend sticking with it most the time I get my fuel at sportsman's Warehouse if it's available
Some great info there thanks! They made things to last in the ole days..
What are you talking about easier to store the propane stove? I like you you explain that one 😅. I've been using white fuel coleman stoves over 45 years. They are the best over all.
Fk propane, it is far more dangerous than white fuel. It was a interesting video, I don't understand the reasoning behind the dB level test like someone is really going to be concerned with the noise level of a camp stove ??? .
The video was good Content, very good explanation of each stove .
Definitely a Five Star🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 video.
Great Job 👍