Holy cows. I'm scared of heights and this is absolutely amazing for me. Every time I see it and I notice that you're actually saying it in PAST tense - it makes me happy for you. Thanks a lot.
Hi there! Great video. Drone Camp rc put out a couple videos about tumble and he’s explaining why this is happening, and the limits of the DJI AVATA in manual mode.
Awesome-stunning footage! It’s amazing you got this good with mostly just the simulator, you are very talented dude! Have you tried TRYP FPV simulator for chasing Base Jumper’s? It let’s you experiment the best flight path and camera angles.
Thanks man! Appreciate that, but I think there’s a lot of luck here for sure, definitely almost lost it a few times. I have not, but I will definitely do so, that sounds like the perfect simulator!
The drone wigging out is an issue of the flight controller not being tuned for super aggressive turns. The momentary loss of control is due to abnormal air disturbances created by the prop guards. Similar issues happen with traditional, non-DJI cinewhoops but there are cinewhoops that don't have it as much. I imagine DJI could fix it in part or in whole with a software update if they felt inclined. But I don't think they will. This drone was designed for slower flights. You'd be better off with a Cinelog 35 and a GoPro or a 5-inch quad without prop guards.
Based on what everyone is saying it's not something that the flight controller can make up for. It might be able to fix it a little but DJ I would have to change the design of the prop guards too.
FPV is still very much out of my area of expertise at this time, so my understanding of the mechanics of quads is still in development, but are adjustments of rates able to mitigate an “un calibrated” flight controller? Prop guard flight deficits aside?
@@DevMcLaughlin Increasing the rates won't help. If you decrease the rates it might help. Slowing down how fast you yaw (turn) would probably decrease the aerodynamic disturbance caused by the prop guards but depending on how fast you turn you may still get some unwanted wobbles. Beyond trying to change your rates you could make slower, less abrupt control inputs and that should fix the issue. At least you had the presence of mind to hit the brake button each time it happened. A lot of people freeze up and end up letting it fall to the ground.
@@dangerous8333 I was thinking that was a possibility. But then I saw this video and now I'm thinking it actually might be a flight controller issue. ua-cam.com/video/F16sSbx5DWw/v-deo.html
That was brilliant video mate, i did enjoyed it, drone footage is like in movies, looks like great toy and device to help base jumpers before they exit- to see whats down the line or at LZ, you guys are tough, i would scream in that cold water😅 you all had fun and that is good spot to jump, being surrounded by people on kayaks and stuff, really peaceful place
Thanks dude! Not too bad for a maiden voyage. Definitely man, this cliff is closed something like February through June, so definitely plan for it. Love to see you back out here🤟🏼
Great edit and the fpv footage looks awsome. Hope you being careful with the flights and have safety as pri 1 when flying around your jumper friends. Looking forward to your next video. Stay safe.
Thanks dude, love hearing that. You better believe it, no shot is worth compromising anyone’s safety. Protocol right now calls for sufficient distance from jumpers, flight paths which allow outs, and coordination with jumper’s delay taken to ensure [most] variables are accounted for. Obviously the mere presence of a quad in the sky while anyone is jumping is an added danger, but just like BASE, preparation, coordination and planning can ensure the danger is minimized to acceptable degrees. Appreciate the feedback as always man!
They call it woop wash. So far been seeing a lot of people break their avata because of it. It’s happened to me once but I was high enough i hit the brake
I think I’d be crashing more often if I weren’t flying higher altitudes, but I imagine my luck is going to run out at some point if I don’t fine tune my own abilities to recognize where I’m consistently losing control. Thanks dude.
I’m not sure if someone has answer this but the reason the drone suddenly moves like that it’s most likely due to the PID settings. I believe you can’t change this in DJI product since bad settings can cause the motors to burn so I’m guessing DJI isn’t risking it.
@@DevMcLaughlin Ye basically sets the output of the motor based on speed, rotation, etc. and bad settings can cause excessive vibration and sudden movements but since the Avata is a small, but powerful drone its bound to happen. If you are interested probably check out Joshua Bardwell he should be more of a reliable source than me and has a whole video on this kind of stuff. And again as for the Dji Avata, it will probably be fixed in a future update. (hopefully)
A simulator might teach you bad habits with this drone. Unless in the simulator you fly like this is meant to be flown. Based on its limitations it's basically a regular camera drone with goggles, so if that's what people want to use it for it's perfect for that. I don't know if I would be doing dives like this though. Maybe they can fix it a little in firmware, but I don't know.
I’m thinking the simulator might be as well. The Avata is definitely capable of dives, but it’s agility definitely shines at low speeds, not high speeds high Gs. I’ve performed dives just as steep but slower with great recovery, here I was getting a bit aggressive in the corners, and from the comments I’m seeing, probably a bit beyond this drone’s capabilities.
Would you tell me what you did the 2nd time you anticipated the "flip and drop" of the avata. Did you go emergency again or did something with the controls?
If I remember correctly I don’t believe I hit the brake, I think I sorta lucked out and the Avata partially flipped to orient itself mostly correctly, with minor adjustments allowing me to get my bearings. It was more of an unconscious reaction than calculated maneuver. But it’s possible it was a brake and I’m forgetting. All the same my finger is always on the brake button, and I never fly this aggressive close to the ground.
Would you still recommend the Avata with the current quirk(s)? I haven't been as interested in drone footage as it all seems so shaky as the cameras adjust on regular models, but this FPV looks super crisp and smooth. How does the simulator work?
I have zero experience flying any other FPV so this is really all I know as far as functionality and quirks go. But I love it, and it seems to be exactly what I was looking for. If future firmware updates resolve what I’m told are flaws, all the better. Very interesting, there’s a number of stabilizing software you can run drone footage through that you’ll get great results from, and many (including the Avata) have native stabilizing software that works great already. Camera setting and inducing motion blue can certainly add to ‘smoothness’ or cinematic quality as well. I’ve found FPV footage to be some of the best looking aerial video out there right now. The DJI simulator is simply an app downloaded from the App Store for IOS or Android, phone plugged into the goggles and remote, then simulated in Unreal Engine. Though I know other simulator programs exist which I’m less familiar.
Hahaha, what? You think there hasn't been any good fpv footage until this drone? So GoPros don't exist? Btw, they are still better than the camera on this. Thanks for the laugh. 😂
@@dangerous8333 No I just have a bunch of friends with different DJI models. They're cool to mess around with but the footage comes out jerky when manually moving the cameras. I never saw cinematic FPV drone footage until this video, just clips from fpv racing drones. Why you gotta be such a prick about it?
Settings on all Avata footage in this video are 4k60, exported to 2.7k30 out of Premiere, D-Cinelike, ISO MAX 200, ND8, color graded in premiere. The ND filter was probably unnecessary as it was sunrise, but sometimes it works as a nice lens guard when not adding much lens blur, here it added more than I would have liked.
@@DevMcLaughlin Avata footage is pretty nice man. I’m getting one soon, I’m just waiting for them to be in stock. I already have dji fpv, so just waiting for the drone on its own without either combo. Can’t wait to get out and fly with it. Cheers
Same thing happened to me when rolling my drone down. I lost the control and almost hit the ground… This is horrible and dangerous. It happens since the last fw update :(
I’ve heard some people have had luck resolving their issues with running some IMU calibrations, I did so before the flight in this video, obviously not helping me personally. But you should give it a shot all the same.
Probably not entirely, but it seems to be working in part with my garbage piloting skills at the moment. I’m hoping better developed skills might bend its capabilities, but who knows.
Hey there great video, The avata seems to be a bit top heavy and does not handel that particiular manuever verry well, it seems to stall out. Glad you are liking FPV, Grab a 5inch quad with NO ducts and you will have a blast. The avata is just your gateway to propper gear. Dropped a sub. Stop by the channel sometime. Lee
Thanks man, appreciate the info. If I’m understanding correctly both the Avata being top heavy as well as having ducts both contribute to its difficulty in pulling off more aggressive maneuvers like these? How much if at all do you think a firmware update can resolve some ‘rotor wash’ issues many are discovering, which I’m curious if also may partially contribute here, entirely speculation on my part.
It’s a double edged sword doing what he does. Hate to see a regular 5” quad hit one of those parachutes, but I also realize people use them for this purpose all the time.
For that reason alone I’m hesitant in moving to a duct-less quad for some time, if at all. Even with significant skill there’s an alarming increase in risk I don’t think most FPV pilots are aware of when introducing these quads within proximity of parachute deployment of the BASE environment. Entanglement or damaged gear leading to a delayed or inefficient deployment will likely kill someone at low altitudes. Ducts are a much safer bet in this regard, but still not full proof. All the same I’m convinced that developing skill in this environment will prove enough to get the desired footage without feeling the need to switch to a quad that eases more aggressive flying. At least with my goals for the time being.
@@DevMcLaughlin Yes your understanding is correct. I think DJI could make some improvements to the stability but I can tell how you want to fly that thing. You want to be FREE... A Cinewhoop style will never be a great answer for high altitude and fast manuever type of flying. I mean give it hell if you dont mind crashing or losing it. I just worry about it doing something crazy around a jumper. I think you would LOVE a 5" or similar drone. Take a look at the iFlight Evoque F5D or the BOB57 would be great for faster mountain flights.
@@DevMcLaughlin Yeah but I cant imagine a avata landing on a chute with all of its weight would be great either. If you are really sold on a Ducted quad look at the GepRC Cinelog35 or Protek25. I think the Cinelog would be better for you.
Thanks dude, definitely new territory for me, I think my expectations for how aggressively I’m able to fly were much higher than this quad is capable. From the comments here it’s looking like I’m gonna have to move to a 5” freestyle if I want to get higher speed shots.
Bro this was pretty risky, the avata has known yaw washout and desync issues due to the power to weight ratio like all cinewhoops(what you have been expreiencing in ur vid), dji has not tuned this drone to the prevent it also the inherent design of prop guards and huge battery in vertical orientation is what causes it.
Awesome dude, appreciate the correct jargon. I haven’t been able to even establish what the drone is even doing at the moment control is lost, only speculation.
It's called Tumbling. The Avata is a Cinewhoop. Not a Freestyle drone. Quick banking is its weakness. Wrong drone for the job. You needed the Dji FPV model for that trip.
Thanks dude, it seems I had expected a bit more aggressive flight out of the Avata. I’m gonna work on dialing my flight back to teeter closer to what it’s capable of. My understanding is Cinewhoops suffer in the areas you mentioned due to the prop guards?
@@DevMcLaughlin Yes, the dynamics of the props vs guards. I've been trying different rates to compensate. Overall the Avata is a fantastic cine-drone for most situations. It's not a full send ripper. Love this little drone. It's as if dji updated the Spark and whooped it. Almost the same size, just upside down.
I’m with you man, it’s a blast. I’m also curious if dialing in the rates could help a bit as well. But I’m so inexperienced I think reverting back to “slow, steady and controlled” progression is gonna be the name of the game.
@@DevMcLaughlin yep rates & practice. The quality of the footage is great. Battery time and safety features make it a great way to learn. But you may want to get a small RTF whoop for a practice beater. I ordered two sets of ducts and the body when ordered Avata for crashes. So far only scuffed a bit.
Right on man, any advice on rates? I imagine it can change between people quite a bit. The footage is fantastic if set correctly and processed right no doubt. And these were all considered when I decided to purchase, it seemed the easiest to learn and most cost effective in ‘mostly’ avoiding bad crashes. I’ll definitely look into an RTF to practice with, appreciate the recommendation man🤟🏼
Thanks man, this literally asserted all my questions. Sounds like slow is the name of the game. I’m confident I can get some great shots slowing things down, it’s just going to take far more practice.
This is sort of what I was thinking, I’m gonna have to run some more experiments, and by experiments I mean I’m gonna have to get better at flying to mediate the tumbling…
@@DevMcLaughlin From watching Avata videos and testing more on my own, I think it's something that might be fixable in the future based on how it processes some movement or it may end up be a limitation of DJI with FPV
I’m hoping so. It could make sense that the years of flight data DJI has acquired with their GPS drones isn’t completely transferable for small dynamic flight like that if the FPV or even smaller Cinewhoop flight like that if the Avata. I’m entirely speculating here, but if a firmware update can resolve or at the very least dampen some of these problems that seem to be frequent enough, I’m here for it. I read on another comment under an Avata video that this is simply the nature of Cinewhoop drones, and something regarding the props inability to handle some turns. I’m so new into FPV that I have no idea why that may be, or if that is ALSO only speculation.
@@DevMcLaughlin I mean yeah the fact is a cinewhoop already removes it from flips and tricks since cinewhoop is really meant for smoother, slower cinematics then high speed, fast tricks
It surely won’t be as aggressive as an acro FPV, but you can’t definitely get flips out of the Avata. That’s beside the point here, most cases of the Avata falling out of the sky are pretty consistent between user experience. Prop wash taking tight corners following a particular sort of stick movements seems to be pretty consistent. Rob lost his drone under a nearly identical (though less G intensive) maneuver, where DJI ruled fault on the side of hardware, and not user error: ua-cam.com/video/BkdUNLIt4Jk/v-deo.html
Holy cows. I'm scared of heights and this is absolutely amazing for me. Every time I see it and I notice that you're actually saying it in PAST tense - it makes me happy for you.
Thanks a lot.
Hi there! Great video. Drone Camp rc put out a couple videos about tumble and he’s explaining why this is happening, and the limits of the DJI AVATA in manual mode.
Awesome-stunning footage! It’s amazing you got this good with mostly just the simulator, you are very talented dude! Have you tried TRYP FPV simulator for chasing Base Jumper’s? It let’s you experiment the best flight path and camera angles.
Thanks man! Appreciate that, but I think there’s a lot of luck here for sure, definitely almost lost it a few times.
I have not, but I will definitely do so, that sounds like the perfect simulator!
The drone wigging out is an issue of the flight controller not being tuned for super aggressive turns. The momentary loss of control is due to abnormal air disturbances created by the prop guards. Similar issues happen with traditional, non-DJI cinewhoops but there are cinewhoops that don't have it as much. I imagine DJI could fix it in part or in whole with a software update if they felt inclined. But I don't think they will. This drone was designed for slower flights. You'd be better off with a Cinelog 35 and a GoPro or a 5-inch quad without prop guards.
Based on what everyone is saying it's not something that the flight controller can make up for. It might be able to fix it a little but DJ I would have to change the design of the prop guards too.
FPV is still very much out of my area of expertise at this time, so my understanding of the mechanics of quads is still in development, but are adjustments of rates able to mitigate an “un calibrated” flight controller? Prop guard flight deficits aside?
@@DevMcLaughlin Increasing the rates won't help. If you decrease the rates it might help. Slowing down how fast you yaw (turn) would probably decrease the aerodynamic disturbance caused by the prop guards but depending on how fast you turn you may still get some unwanted wobbles. Beyond trying to change your rates you could make slower, less abrupt control inputs and that should fix the issue. At least you had the presence of mind to hit the brake button each time it happened. A lot of people freeze up and end up letting it fall to the ground.
@@dangerous8333 I was thinking that was a possibility. But then I saw this video and now I'm thinking it actually might be a flight controller issue. ua-cam.com/video/F16sSbx5DWw/v-deo.html
@@DevMcLaughlin This dude explains it all very well. ua-cam.com/video/U9O-F2YzkbA/v-deo.html
That was brilliant video mate, i did enjoyed it, drone footage is like in movies, looks like great toy and device to help base jumpers before they exit- to see whats down the line or at LZ, you guys are tough, i would scream in that cold water😅 you all had fun and that is good spot to jump, being surrounded by people on kayaks and stuff, really peaceful place
🔥🔥Sick thx for sharing these moments 🔥 nice edit 🙏🏻
Thanks man! Happy to share, certainly more to come🤟🏼
Nice shots! I want to come back and hit this one.
Thanks dude! Not too bad for a maiden voyage. Definitely man, this cliff is closed something like February through June, so definitely plan for it. Love to see you back out here🤟🏼
Great edit and the fpv footage looks awsome. Hope you being careful with the flights and have safety as pri 1 when flying around your jumper friends. Looking forward to your next video. Stay safe.
Thanks dude, love hearing that. You better believe it, no shot is worth compromising anyone’s safety. Protocol right now calls for sufficient distance from jumpers, flight paths which allow outs, and coordination with jumper’s delay taken to ensure [most] variables are accounted for. Obviously the mere presence of a quad in the sky while anyone is jumping is an added danger, but just like BASE, preparation, coordination and planning can ensure the danger is minimized to acceptable degrees. Appreciate the feedback as always man!
Love it! Every bit!
Thanks man!
Surreal. Definitely like "Lord of the Rings" magical. Great job!
nice jump and great piloting. was wondering if you are using the dji in full manual mode?
Thanks dude! Still a work in progress surely. This is full manual, with Attitude Limit also switched off. N and S modes don’t allow steep dives.
@@DevMcLaughlin new vid today!!!!!!!!!! dji errors
ua-cam.com/video/FrBPkI4CRpY/v-deo.html
4:42 cinewhoop always experienced that tumble,its not meant to be push like an acro freestyle drone.Be careful
They call it woop wash. So far been seeing a lot of people break their avata because of it. It’s happened to me once but I was high enough i hit the brake
I think I’d be crashing more often if I weren’t flying higher altitudes, but I imagine my luck is going to run out at some point if I don’t fine tune my own abilities to recognize where I’m consistently losing control. Thanks dude.
I’m not sure if someone has answer this but the reason the drone suddenly moves like that it’s most likely due to the PID settings. I believe you can’t change this in DJI product since bad settings can cause the motors to burn so I’m guessing DJI isn’t risking it.
Interesting, what are PID settings exactly? Is it a governor of sorts for the motors power output?
@@DevMcLaughlin Ye basically sets the output of the motor based on speed, rotation, etc. and bad settings can cause excessive vibration and sudden movements but since the Avata is a small, but powerful drone its bound to happen. If you are interested probably check out Joshua Bardwell he should be more of a reliable source than me and has a whole video on this kind of stuff. And again as for the Dji Avata, it will probably be fixed in a future update. (hopefully)
Awesome, thanks for the explanation and info dude, very much appreciate it🤟🏼
A simulator might teach you bad habits with this drone. Unless in the simulator you fly like this is meant to be flown. Based on its limitations it's basically a regular camera drone with goggles, so if that's what people want to use it for it's perfect for that. I don't know if I would be doing dives like this though. Maybe they can fix it a little in firmware, but I don't know.
I’m thinking the simulator might be as well. The Avata is definitely capable of dives, but it’s agility definitely shines at low speeds, not high speeds high Gs. I’ve performed dives just as steep but slower with great recovery, here I was getting a bit aggressive in the corners, and from the comments I’m seeing, probably a bit beyond this drone’s capabilities.
Would you tell me what you did the 2nd time you anticipated the "flip and drop" of the avata. Did you go emergency again or did something with the controls?
If I remember correctly I don’t believe I hit the brake, I think I sorta lucked out and the Avata partially flipped to orient itself mostly correctly, with minor adjustments allowing me to get my bearings. It was more of an unconscious reaction than calculated maneuver. But it’s possible it was a brake and I’m forgetting. All the same my finger is always on the brake button, and I never fly this aggressive close to the ground.
Would you still recommend the Avata with the current quirk(s)? I haven't been as interested in drone footage as it all seems so shaky as the cameras adjust on regular models, but this FPV looks super crisp and smooth. How does the simulator work?
I have zero experience flying any other FPV so this is really all I know as far as functionality and quirks go. But I love it, and it seems to be exactly what I was looking for. If future firmware updates resolve what I’m told are flaws, all the better.
Very interesting, there’s a number of stabilizing software you can run drone footage through that you’ll get great results from, and many (including the Avata) have native stabilizing software that works great already. Camera setting and inducing motion blue can certainly add to ‘smoothness’ or cinematic quality as well. I’ve found FPV footage to be some of the best looking aerial video out there right now.
The DJI simulator is simply an app downloaded from the App Store for IOS or Android, phone plugged into the goggles and remote, then simulated in Unreal Engine. Though I know other simulator programs exist which I’m less familiar.
Hahaha, what?
You think there hasn't been any good fpv footage until this drone?
So GoPros don't exist? Btw, they are still better than the camera on this.
Thanks for the laugh. 😂
@@dangerous8333 No I just have a bunch of friends with different DJI models. They're cool to mess around with but the footage comes out jerky when manually moving the cameras. I never saw cinematic FPV drone footage until this video, just clips from fpv racing drones. Why you gotta be such a prick about it?
Do u have any NDs on? And is it in D-cinelike and the coloured?
Settings on all Avata footage in this video are 4k60, exported to 2.7k30 out of Premiere, D-Cinelike, ISO MAX 200, ND8, color graded in premiere. The ND filter was probably unnecessary as it was sunrise, but sometimes it works as a nice lens guard when not adding much lens blur, here it added more than I would have liked.
@@DevMcLaughlin Avata footage is pretty nice man.
I’m getting one soon, I’m just waiting for them to be in stock.
I already have dji fpv, so just waiting for the drone on its own without either combo.
Can’t wait to get out and fly with it.
Cheers
Thanks man appreciate it, you’re gonna love it🤌🏼
Same thing happened to me when rolling my drone down. I lost the control and almost hit the ground… This is horrible and dangerous. It happens since the last fw update :(
I’ve heard some people have had luck resolving their issues with running some IMU calibrations, I did so before the flight in this video, obviously not helping me personally. But you should give it a shot all the same.
ua-cam.com/video/S03rvMiPl-c/v-deo.html
Idk if the avata is the right drone for that
Probably not entirely, but it seems to be working in part with my garbage piloting skills at the moment. I’m hoping better developed skills might bend its capabilities, but who knows.
@@DevMcLaughlin honestly I think it’s the tool in this case but still some really amazing shots
Thanks man, appreciate the feedback🤟🏼
Hey there great video, The avata seems to be a bit top heavy and does not handel that particiular manuever verry well, it seems to stall out. Glad you are liking FPV, Grab a 5inch quad with NO ducts and you will have a blast. The avata is just your gateway to propper gear. Dropped a sub. Stop by the channel sometime. Lee
Thanks man, appreciate the info. If I’m understanding correctly both the Avata being top heavy as well as having ducts both contribute to its difficulty in pulling off more aggressive maneuvers like these? How much if at all do you think a firmware update can resolve some ‘rotor wash’ issues many are discovering, which I’m curious if also may partially contribute here, entirely speculation on my part.
It’s a double edged sword doing what he does. Hate to see a regular 5” quad hit one of those parachutes, but I also realize people use them for this purpose all the time.
For that reason alone I’m hesitant in moving to a duct-less quad for some time, if at all. Even with significant skill there’s an alarming increase in risk I don’t think most FPV pilots are aware of when introducing these quads within proximity of parachute deployment of the BASE environment. Entanglement or damaged gear leading to a delayed or inefficient deployment will likely kill someone at low altitudes. Ducts are a much safer bet in this regard, but still not full proof. All the same I’m convinced that developing skill in this environment will prove enough to get the desired footage without feeling the need to switch to a quad that eases more aggressive flying. At least with my goals for the time being.
@@DevMcLaughlin Yes your understanding is correct. I think DJI could make some improvements to the stability but I can tell how you want to fly that thing. You want to be FREE... A Cinewhoop style will never be a great answer for high altitude and fast manuever type of flying. I mean give it hell if you dont mind crashing or losing it. I just worry about it doing something crazy around a jumper. I think you would LOVE a 5" or similar drone. Take a look at the iFlight Evoque F5D or the BOB57 would be great for faster mountain flights.
@@DevMcLaughlin Yeah but I cant imagine a avata landing on a chute with all of its weight would be great either. If you are really sold on a Ducted quad look at the GepRC Cinelog35 or Protek25. I think the Cinelog would be better for you.
its a tumble , prop guard disturb the air flow and affected the FC. its a cinewhoop not a freestyle quad bro
Thanks dude, definitely new territory for me, I think my expectations for how aggressively I’m able to fly were much higher than this quad is capable. From the comments here it’s looking like I’m gonna have to move to a 5” freestyle if I want to get higher speed shots.
Watch these 2 videos on why it happens ua-cam.com/video/S03rvMiPl-c/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/S03rvMiPl-c/v-deo.html
Thanks dude, this is a huge help🤟🏼
Bro this was pretty risky, the avata has known yaw washout and desync issues due to the power to weight ratio like all cinewhoops(what you have been expreiencing in ur vid), dji has not tuned this drone to the prevent it also the inherent design of prop guards and huge battery in vertical orientation is what causes it.
Tumble is what they call it, I think..
Has to do with power to weight ratio.
Just hearsay…
Awesome dude, appreciate the correct jargon. I haven’t been able to even establish what the drone is even doing at the moment control is lost, only speculation.
It's called Tumbling. The Avata is a Cinewhoop. Not a Freestyle drone. Quick banking is its weakness.
Wrong drone for the job. You needed the Dji FPV model for that trip.
Thanks dude, it seems I had expected a bit more aggressive flight out of the Avata. I’m gonna work on dialing my flight back to teeter closer to what it’s capable of.
My understanding is Cinewhoops suffer in the areas you mentioned due to the prop guards?
@@DevMcLaughlin Yes, the dynamics of the props vs guards.
I've been trying different rates to compensate. Overall the Avata is a fantastic cine-drone for most situations. It's not a full send ripper.
Love this little drone. It's as if dji updated the Spark and whooped it. Almost the same size, just upside down.
I’m with you man, it’s a blast. I’m also curious if dialing in the rates could help a bit as well. But I’m so inexperienced I think reverting back to “slow, steady and controlled” progression is gonna be the name of the game.
@@DevMcLaughlin yep rates & practice. The quality of the footage is great. Battery time and safety features make it a great way to learn.
But you may want to get a small RTF whoop for a practice beater.
I ordered two sets of ducts and the body when ordered Avata for crashes. So far only scuffed a bit.
Right on man, any advice on rates? I imagine it can change between people quite a bit. The footage is fantastic if set correctly and processed right no doubt. And these were all considered when I decided to purchase, it seemed the easiest to learn and most cost effective in ‘mostly’ avoiding bad crashes.
I’ll definitely look into an RTF to practice with, appreciate the recommendation man🤟🏼
This is what happened when your avata turned into level mode:
ua-cam.com/video/S03rvMiPl-c/v-deo.html
Thanks man, this literally asserted all my questions. Sounds like slow is the name of the game. I’m confident I can get some great shots slowing things down, it’s just going to take far more practice.
the coper is a cinewhoop its not made for this style of flying
Flips out can’t handle the g forces
This is sort of what I was thinking, I’m gonna have to run some more experiments, and by experiments I mean I’m gonna have to get better at flying to mediate the tumbling…
@@DevMcLaughlin From watching Avata videos and testing more on my own, I think it's something that might be fixable in the future based on how it processes some movement or it may end up be a limitation of DJI with FPV
I’m hoping so. It could make sense that the years of flight data DJI has acquired with their GPS drones isn’t completely transferable for small dynamic flight like that if the FPV or even smaller Cinewhoop flight like that if the Avata. I’m entirely speculating here, but if a firmware update can resolve or at the very least dampen some of these problems that seem to be frequent enough, I’m here for it. I read on another comment under an Avata video that this is simply the nature of Cinewhoop drones, and something regarding the props inability to handle some turns. I’m so new into FPV that I have no idea why that may be, or if that is ALSO only speculation.
@@DevMcLaughlin I mean yeah the fact is a cinewhoop already removes it from flips and tricks since cinewhoop is really meant for smoother, slower cinematics then high speed, fast tricks
It surely won’t be as aggressive as an acro FPV, but you can’t definitely get flips out of the Avata. That’s beside the point here, most cases of the Avata falling out of the sky are pretty consistent between user experience. Prop wash taking tight corners following a particular sort of stick movements seems to be pretty consistent. Rob lost his drone under a nearly identical (though less G intensive) maneuver, where DJI ruled fault on the side of hardware, and not user error:
ua-cam.com/video/BkdUNLIt4Jk/v-deo.html
Yaw 180으로 해봐 그럼 조금나아질거야.
고마워요, 시도해 보겠습니다. 이 시점에서 무엇이든 시도할 용의가 있습니다.