Thank you! someone finally speaking out about this. GoPro has the action camera scene so monopolized they just don't seem to care at all about quality anymore. Their company has been on such a heavy downward spiral over the years and they do nothing besides take notes from apple limit you and make things worse. Something DRASTICALLY needs to be done. I miss the old days when GoPros were strong as a tank, they didn't glitch constantly, the software systems were simple and easy, everything was compatible with 3rd party accessories and you didn't need to constantly connect your camera to your phone for weird reasons. GoPro please figure it out
I own two GoPro 9s and I have upgraded to the 11. I couldnt DISAGREE more with the critiques in this video more. First off the Gopro 11 has 10-bit color. Which completely clowns the 9's color and went totally unmentioned in this video. Like the dude didnt even know about it. Then he puts it into a funky hyperview or whatever and then complains it looks distorted. Well duh! You are trying to cram more field of view in to the same size frame, of course its gonna look effed up. If you want it to look normal, use the linear mode. And lastly, the Enduro batteries are completely superior to the old ones. I can get an hour per battery turning it off and on and when leaving it on continuously I gave gotten 1 hour and 16 mins.. I might have gotten 30 minutes off one of those old blue batteries. Plus, I do go out in the snow. With the old batteries the camera was basically a paperweight at temps under 55 degrees. It would last 6 or 7 seconds and shut off. With the Enduro batteries I have yet to encounter that issue once.. honestly, its sad this video has so many views when the content creator is giving such an inaccurate review of the product.
@@nicksangetta8874 I looked back and forth like twice and could see a night and day difference between the two. details and colours most notably. I just got my 11 and admitedly at least in darker scenes there does appear to be a stuttering of footage but only in certain environments using superview, something that should be easily fixed. The battery seems fine to me, I went on a 3.5/4 hour hike taking clips every 5 or so minutes in 4k 60fps and it died just at the end. a neat feature that seems gimmicky but I liked was the voice commands and when the cameras powered down you can still press record and it will start, when finished it will turn itself off. not sure if its been around a while but I liked it. I'd say if you have the previous two, don't bother as there isn't enough difference to invest.
@@zytoses9223 I love the voice commands. Although on the 11 they removed the ability to turn the camera ON with voice commands. Pretty stupid.. but it still works for the rest of the commands. I hardly ever press the actual buttons. But the color upgrade was worth it for me to upgrade from the 9 to 11. It looks so much better in my opinion.. plus I no longer have to film in flat and add the color later. The vivid setting on the 9 is absolute garbage. It was unusable.
cant wait to have the bike swapped with the ko kit. heard its extremely powerful and the motor doesnt actually overheat as easily as the stock sur ron motor
I also had this problem and just switched from GoPro to Insta360 and it was SO worth it. You have way more field of view, it’s more immersive when youre watching riding footage, and it also gives more flexibility in editing as a helmet cam.
I use the Hero9 with the Max Lens. Haven’t upgraded to the 11 but the hyperview distortion would make me feel “sea sick” in a way if I watch it back. I’m okay with staying at 2.7k with the Max lens on the 9. At least until they fix the issue
I like the max lens look. It's not as oversharpened, the distortion is much more acceptable and I do in fact think the FOV is bigger. It may just not look like it because of the very extreme distortion in HyperView. Just look at your comparison at 8:11. With max lens you can see the plant and leaves on the right, while you cannot in HyperView.
superview and hyperview give you an increase in vertical FOV but at the cost of the distortion. It's kind of like stretching a 4:3 image into a 16:9, but gopro does this a little different by keeping the center normal and it moves all the stretching to the sides to give it a warped look.
It looks like the Max Lens increases horizontal fov at the expense of vertical fov compared to hyperview, while also reducing distortion, so it boils down to use case and preference
As a GoPro Fusion user, who bought the device when it was a year after being discontinued -- I feel your pain. They have even removed the resource pages from their website, so we must fully rely on Facebook Groups for info. Then come to find out, one of the issues with a specific app not allowing users to import/export and edit footage, is an expiration date on the music library -- which many of us will never use!
If you want to preserve the original video quality but still have a telemetry overlay, I have a workflow that, I think, does a really good job. I use Race Render to create the data overlay and I export it as a video file with just the data overlay on top of a blue screen, not the gopro video. Then I import the data overlay video file and the gopro video files into my video editor. I chroma key out the blue background on the data overlay video track. This way you end up with a data overlay but don't have to run your gopro video through an extra processing step that could degrade the quality of the video.
Sounds like a good idea I’ve always been wondering why even after following all the instructions from my camera to UA-cam my videos always come out looking like shit while everyone else’s is like a cinematic film
@@slapshotjack9806 do not export HEVC. UA-cam cannot handle h265 compression well and always outputs shit results. Always export H264 then go to UA-cam.
Hey Man, hate to be that guy but it seems like you didn't actually know what you were buying when you bought the max lens mod haha it's only purpose is to create better stabilisation in a wide FOV. so you can have the horizon locked with it on and the lens is still wide and not linear like the camera does without the mod. that's literally it, it's niche product for sure but is amazing when used for certain things. Honestly I think what you need is a 360 camera like the GoPro MAX or Insta360
Max mod gives a wider shot but not a taller shot. If you shoot 4:3 with the max and then stretch it to 16:9 in software you can get some really interesting results that way. The main purpose of the max is to get horizon leveling
I think the only reason to have the max lens mod is if you're doing flips and whatnot and need the horizon level all the time. .other than that, image will def. look like shhhh. But it's nice to see someone else out there totally skipped hero 10 and went to 11. That's what I did. Hero 9 to Hero 11. For the most part, I'm satisfied with the upgrade. Can't hate on it. .and the more coloring with the 10 bit color. I notice the difference in my playback footage. But I really like the higher frame rate with higher resolution for recording my dog in motion. His slo mo is great. Had to update my external hard drive capacity [to 20tb] to keep all the footage. These videos of my dog will be cherished for all time in the future. Love that little guy. . .
I liked hyperview at first. but when i watch it on a big screen it gives me a headache. I think the 8:7 Wide works better. and then just crop some of the top and bottom off to make it 16:9
I have to hero 9 and I just go natural interview because I'm doing art , what settings do you recommend when you doing some kind of things like face down to the table , because I record art
Great video thanks for all the good insight! I'm just wondering what you are using to capture the audio while riding? Do you have a mic in your helmet and if so what are you using? Thanks eh
I have a brand new go pro 11, it worked fine in the beginning but for some reason, the video footage has this "stop/continue" thing, so it freezes for a 1/10 of a second and then continues, and this happens 2/3 times a second. its all brand new, the sd card is a 256 gb samsumg evo ( so not the best, but it should be good enough), do you have any idea?
Glad to see videos where people are talking about it. I have stopped using GoPro completely. It freezes and hangs and very unpredictable. Moved to Insta 360. And super happy
@@DanDennedy my point is that he bought an upgrade that is meant for the camera he's moving away from. The Max lens mod was built for the Hero 9, but still helped the Hero 10. The Hero 11 is compatible with the mod, but it won't improve it.
Hey bro! you have very good audio, how are you recording your audio? I mean which equipment you are using to record your voice for this video? your answer will be really appreciated
For max lens mod: rec in 2.7k 4:3 then squish it in post to 16:9 This will get you the fov you want. Idk how it compares to HyperView but its wider than superview (I have a hero 10)
I have the Hero 8 Black and the Hero 10 Black. Unless I'm shooting myself, where I can see the front lens of the 10, I find I'm using the 8 the most, because all the features I really need are there. There was a definite improvement from the 8 to the 10 with that front screen. I never had a 9, so I don't know if that was already there or not. I do NOT see enough difference in the 11 to justify an "upgrade".
Hey man! I love ur vids and I have a question about the sur Ron. Did u mod it to be street legal? If not, are u allowed to be riding it on bike lanes and the road? I’m looking to get one but not sure about it. I see many people riding it in the street but also people getting their bikes taken?!
Good camera and quality. Love it. But the only problem is the audio I could here the wind a lot and it was kind of drowning out your voice. Other than that love it!
This is my first time seeing your channel and I enjoyed the video. I have used the gopro 5,7,8,10, Max and now the 11. I definitely agree with your review. The mobile and desktop app need the upgrades more than the cameras now. I am selling two of my 8’s and the max to get the X3.
I just got the 11 Creator package and also picked up to max lens, you are correct they do scratch ez lol I had one for my 9 dropped my GoPro a and the only thing that got damaged was the lens😢 what do you use for you audio
Great review indeed. I am glad I kept my GoPro 9 and never upgraded to the 11. Also, man I SUPER agree with you about the crappy phone app, while not having any real desktop computer application to use. Even Insta360 who offers phone editing app for their 360 cameras, have also a desktop app available to use (which is the only one I use). I don't understand how people can make professional editing using their phone, which is not made for this at all. 🤔 PS: Non related to GoPro but had to add this; Be careful out there with your bike. I saw you ride in a "wild" way sometimes, which looks pretty cool on camera, until you get hit by a distracted driver, and then it will look less cool from the hospital's bed (talking from experience).
These are good points you raise with the GoPro. If anything, I feel that GoPro should be getting better. Especially that more UA-camrs are coming onto the scene and using this company's products. I recommend sending them an email with THIS video in a link. Good luck to you my dude.
Hi, I got the GoPro 11.. used 4K 60FPS Superview whilst on my Motorbike.. but I can't get my macbook pro (2020) to open/recognise any of the MP4 files? Tried Handbrake to convert and even that isn't recognising it?
The HERO11 will record uncropped 5.3K 8:7 aspect ratio. Hyperview is just taking that and stretching it to 16:9. I’m a big fan of 16:9 but I’d prefer watching the unstretched 8:7 for your riding content. Also, when using the Max Lens Mod, you can keep the GoPro in normal mode (I.e., not enabling Max Lens Mode) and it will record a fisheye circle view. This will get you a much wider angle. Especially if you use the full 8x7 aspect ratio. Loved the video! I never considered some of your needs for a GoPro. It’s a huge bummer they haven’t kept the desktop software up-to-date!
@@danvinogradov138 You can upload the 4:3 or 8:7 to youtube. You can check that if you download the video, but when you go full screen on youtube, it will ofc have bezels on the side if you have 16:9 monitor, or am i missing something? I was using 4:3 monitor on youtube and if i play 4:3 video, it is full screen
I've never had a gopro but I got the DJI Action 2 and love it. It's much more of a blend of a mini-cam or vlogging cam in comparison to the Action 1, Action 3, or GoPro, but the imagine quality is great and it's really a very wonderful product.
the Action 4 is more than likely the one you'll want now, kind of depends for use case. Some quirks with the Action 2 but it's also in a league of it's own as a small camera. The Pocket 1 + 3 are also great. Even DJI had the Pocket 1 refurbished for 99 or 109 recently, I forget. Lot of camera for the price, and the stabilization is better on the pocket than any mainstream digital stabilization, such as whatever newest GoPro.@@TheOriginalMarimoChan
Watching on a tv, i notice the quality is way better on the 11, those 60fps is a must, i felt bad when you jumped to hero 9, the road looked sooo bad on the 9 😁👍 worth it upgrade
Actually I find the opposite to be true. Heros 10 and 11 are vastly improved in reliability and speed of start/stop rec. I upgraded to the 11 from the 9, night and day difference. I don't even use the 9 anymore and will sell it.
I don't have a new one but I think you get more "features" with the newer ones and because of that they use more battery life, so it cancels out the extra Mha they put in the battery. maybe they should figure out better cooling since all the software running in the background is causing over heating issues with the camera and slowly killing the battery
Honestly for our use-case, there hasn't been any useful improvement since the GP7. I often edit vids with shots from various GP from 7 to 10 and honestly, I'd have a hard time telling the difference!
Depends on colour saturation. A problem I had with the older GoPros was that when they filmed highly saturated colours in bright sunshine, the colour information would clip in a really strange way, and bright reds would often get rendered as orange or sometimes pink. With bright kayaking kit it was a problem. There's no such issues with the new cameras as the colour science has been improved considerably.
@@simonwyndham Yeah. On the other hand, on the GP7 flat colour is really flat whereas since the 8, it's more contrasted… Each version has its pros & cons and each version works quite fine once you dialled everything in Protune. The issue you mention was probably most noticeable with auto White balance I guess.
@@MTO_Brothers i've owned the 7, 8, 9 and 10. the only one left is the 7b..... the rest got fat, heavy , lost useful features like live view during recording, support of the older remote, cases started to change and crashed more than the 7. the new gopro app is just crap and refuse to use it when i have Tbs on my PC free for editing files with ONE transfer. Time to GoBro! its all about pumping out a new camera for the shareholders not refining a good model for the love of it for the users
Are you selling your BAC 4000? Your current favorite battery provider is ChiBattery? I’m not @ all tech savvy,but want to upgrade to 72 Volt. I’m 79 years old and like the light weight of the SurRon.
My man casually riding it like he stole it while chatting with himself on the internet. Gotta love it. P.S. Performance in the cold is important for us snow mexicans. Six minute battery life on cold winter days does get annoying eventually. Thank you.
Yo im trying to convince my parents to buy me MX650 then get the electric and co kit. Got any tips on where I could be an affordable MX 650 that’s used. The electric and co is expensive though.
Hey, Surronster can you make a video on how to do the battery settings on the bac 4000 I just got the 4000 yesterday and I’m getting the battery tomorrow and I don’t know how to do the settings I got the 72 V gladiator Max
I definitely agree!!!!!! They have been slacking hard lately! I am very disappointed with my 10 and 11, seams like they are getting worse rather then better with quality and stabilization. I'll be going with DJI
If you want more bike and sky have you tried filming in the 4:3 mode? That way the sensor isn’t cropped vertically. You can always stretch it back to 16:9 in post if that’s the ratio you want, but you’ll get the full view.
I think the hero 11 was a great upgrade. There is almost no wind noises (which there are on the hero 9), the colors and the more fps makes a big difference for the video, and the hyperview is a great upgrade from the superview. i dont see why to hate it except for the max lens which doesnt make a big difference except the distortion. anyways great video with good comparisons :)
I think it's more about how everything gopro puts out comes with issues right out the box. Yes it works as stated, but it still overheats, still gets screen if death, has super view but super distorted... it's not ideal. I can't tell you how often the gopro fails on me the moment I really need it, it's not a consistent workhorse at all. It is a temperamental drama queen and we are calling them out
@@PoseidonProductions definelty if you’re living in a “warm” country the Gopro is not ideal. But for fx Denmark and Norway its fine cause it isnt too hot up here.
Hmm, not sure I agree with most of this. Remember, the Max Lens Mod was brought out for the HERO9. It's an older product, and yes, it can still be used with the HERO11, but I feel that it's a legacy product. The good news is that the taller sensor on the 11 would open up the ability to create a new Max Lens Mod that focusses its imaging circle on the same sensor area that is used in the new Linear + Horizon lock mode. If GoPro did that, then it should be possible to get an ultra-wide field of view in 4K with full horizon lock. Whether they will do it or not is another matter, but it's technically possible. Regards to editing, yeah, it's not great if there is that problem with telemetry, although GoPro hasn't discontinued the desktop app. It's now the GoPro Player and incorporates ReelStead. Maybe they'll add telemetry again to it in the future. One thing I will say is that although the colours on the DJI Action 3 are not quite as good as GoPro, the Ultra-wide mode on it is, well, truly ultra-wide. I'm hoping GoPro increases the FOV on future cameras to compete, since the Action 3 does so with comparatively little distortion. But it's all good for competition.
TL;DR: Max lens is poop, rest is ok. Telemetry problems, but was fixed in an annoying way. Sur Ronster very angry and waving arms. There, saved you 15 minutes.
I just upgraded to the GoPro Hero 11 too but im waiting for it to come in... Im a huge camera nerd and like getting into the manual settings when it comes to photos and videos. I know its really convinient to just have standard 4k 60fps on and record but you should totally try messing with the manual "protune" settings. Something like 4k 30fps / 60 shutter speed / iso min: 100 / iso max: 1600 / throw a little 32ND or even a 16ND filter on the front and record with hyper smooth turned off... Just a thought cause thats what i record most of my stuff with. Ive also been messing around with different export settings on premiere pro to find the best, high bit rate export it gives me without saving a huge video file. But yeah man i love the channel and love the content! Cant wait to see more videos! Love from Miami Florida.
Cool video!! My 2 cents, can't see a huge difference with the wide angle lens on GPH11...might be because of the digital crop stabilisation. I think if it would be mounted on a chest strap it would give you what you're looking for.
I bought my 2nd GoPro Hero 11 black yesterday and my first GoPro was around 2016 . Gopro's have completely changed from just being a action camera to cool looking gadgets now . Also if you guys notice earlier they would market it GoPro "be a hero" now you don't find it on their packages . It's sad , how the company just keep marketting what their cams can do now rather how a GoPro was initially
Man. I can’t imagine how many hours this took to put together. Congrats
Thank you! someone finally speaking out about this. GoPro has the action camera scene so monopolized they just don't seem to care at all about quality anymore. Their company has been on such a heavy downward spiral over the years and they do nothing besides take notes from apple limit you and make things worse. Something DRASTICALLY needs to be done. I miss the old days when GoPros were strong as a tank, they didn't glitch constantly, the software systems were simple and easy, everything was compatible with 3rd party accessories and you didn't need to constantly connect your camera to your phone for weird reasons. GoPro please figure it out
I own two GoPro 9s and I have upgraded to the 11. I couldnt DISAGREE more with the critiques in this video more. First off the Gopro 11 has 10-bit color. Which completely clowns the 9's color and went totally unmentioned in this video. Like the dude didnt even know about it. Then he puts it into a funky hyperview or whatever and then complains it looks distorted. Well duh! You are trying to cram more field of view in to the same size frame, of course its gonna look effed up. If you want it to look normal, use the linear mode. And lastly, the Enduro batteries are completely superior to the old ones. I can get an hour per battery turning it off and on and when leaving it on continuously I gave gotten 1 hour and 16 mins.. I might have gotten 30 minutes off one of those old blue batteries. Plus, I do go out in the snow. With the old batteries the camera was basically a paperweight at temps under 55 degrees. It would last 6 or 7 seconds and shut off. With the Enduro batteries I have yet to encounter that issue once.. honestly, its sad this video has so many views when the content creator is giving such an inaccurate review of the product.
@@nicksangetta8874 I looked back and forth like twice and could see a night and day difference between the two. details and colours most notably. I just got my 11 and admitedly at least in darker scenes there does appear to be a stuttering of footage but only in certain environments using superview, something that should be easily fixed. The battery seems fine to me, I went on a 3.5/4 hour hike taking clips every 5 or so minutes in 4k 60fps and it died just at the end. a neat feature that seems gimmicky but I liked was the voice commands and when the cameras powered down you can still press record and it will start, when finished it will turn itself off. not sure if its been around a while but I liked it. I'd say if you have the previous two, don't bother as there isn't enough difference to invest.
@@zytoses9223 I love the voice commands. Although on the 11 they removed the ability to turn the camera ON with voice commands. Pretty stupid.. but it still works for the rest of the commands. I hardly ever press the actual buttons. But the color upgrade was worth it for me to upgrade from the 9 to 11. It looks so much better in my opinion.. plus I no longer have to film in flat and add the color later. The vivid setting on the 9 is absolute garbage. It was unusable.
DJI seems to be lookin better and better... (in terms of value I mean)
Why no answer for a simple question..? Most People are rude
cant wait to have the bike swapped with the ko kit. heard its extremely powerful and the motor doesnt actually overheat as easily as the stock sur ron motor
I also had this problem and just switched from GoPro to Insta360 and it was SO worth it. You have way more field of view, it’s more immersive when youre watching riding footage, and it also gives more flexibility in editing as a helmet cam.
I'm about to do the same
I was sooo wondering about this, I have a 9 and was wondering whether to buy the 360 or upgrade. Guess I’m going 360. Thanks surronster !
@Bandit X2 i think! Been working great so far.
i just switched from the Insta360 Go 2 to the DJI Action 2. Loving the Action 2
I have a fusion and I am also considering it. The fact they haven't even added tracking, then mentioned they have no plans for a newer GP Max.
Wait, but you can transfer the image / video through the computer. It will be proud of its quality. Right?
I mean if I copy the pictures through a computer. It will remain the same quality. Right?
+1
I use the Hero9 with the Max Lens. Haven’t upgraded to the 11 but the hyperview distortion would make me feel “sea sick” in a way if I watch it back. I’m okay with staying at 2.7k with the Max lens on the 9. At least until they fix the issue
What happens when you take GPH9 RAW GPR photos with the lens mod on?
I like the max lens look. It's not as oversharpened, the distortion is much more acceptable and I do in fact think the FOV is bigger. It may just not look like it because of the very extreme distortion in HyperView. Just look at your comparison at 8:11. With max lens you can see the plant and leaves on the right, while you cannot in HyperView.
Yeah i was going to say that i saw more on the right with the max lens and then it vanished when he went to stock
You are right I missed that part, thanks
superview and hyperview give you an increase in vertical FOV but at the cost of the distortion. It's kind of like stretching a 4:3 image into a 16:9, but gopro does this a little different by keeping the center normal and it moves all the stretching to the sides to give it a warped look.
It looks like the Max Lens increases horizontal fov at the expense of vertical fov compared to hyperview, while also reducing distortion, so it boils down to use case and preference
it has wider fov horizontally, but narrower vertically.
LOVE the vids…. You think I should get a mini moto or a Surron is the mini moto reliable?
As a GoPro Fusion user, who bought the device when it was a year after being discontinued -- I feel your pain. They have even removed the resource pages from their website, so we must fully rely on Facebook Groups for info. Then come to find out, one of the issues with a specific app not allowing users to import/export and edit footage, is an expiration date on the music library -- which many of us will never use!
Everything you've said here is how I feel about GoPro's lack of desktop editing software to add telemetry data.
Big props for telling them how it is! God damn we need more ppl like you 💪
Man I love your vids, this was awesome, thanks for taking the time to go through all the ins and outs of this new cam 🤝🤝🤝
If you want to preserve the original video quality but still have a telemetry overlay, I have a workflow that, I think, does a really good job. I use Race Render to create the data overlay and I export it as a video file with just the data overlay on top of a blue screen, not the gopro video. Then I import the data overlay video file and the gopro video files into my video editor. I chroma key out the blue background on the data overlay video track. This way you end up with a data overlay but don't have to run your gopro video through an extra processing step that could degrade the quality of the video.
Sounds like a good idea I’ve always been wondering why even after following all the instructions from my camera to UA-cam my videos always come out looking like shit while everyone else’s is like a cinematic film
@@slapshotjack9806 do not export HEVC. UA-cam cannot handle h265 compression well and always outputs shit results. Always export H264 then go to UA-cam.
sick software bro i didn't know about it thank you
Hey Man, hate to be that guy but it seems like you didn't actually know what you were buying when you bought the max lens mod haha it's only purpose is to create better stabilisation in a wide FOV. so you can have the horizon locked with it on and the lens is still wide and not linear like the camera does without the mod. that's literally it, it's niche product for sure but is amazing when used for certain things. Honestly I think what you need is a 360 camera like the GoPro MAX or Insta360
Max mod gives a wider shot but not a taller shot. If you shoot 4:3 with the max and then stretch it to 16:9 in software you can get some really interesting results that way. The main purpose of the max is to get horizon leveling
how do you get the speed in the corner?
i'm absolutely with you on the issue with non-existent desktop support for telemetry edition. using the phone to edit is nuts!
can't you use gyroflow desktop app?
@@goncalomatias3637 never heard of it, will take a look. 👍🏼
You can connect GoPro to your computer with usb c
The hyperview is way better. You can see a lot more of the sides.
too much distortion for me
@@Helmetalways same. looks way too stretched and unnatural in my opinion.
looks horrible... DJI action 3 superwide is waaay more better...
Okay so is this a thumbs up or a thumbs down for the 11 compared to the 9 or 10 (which I own)? Which video camera would you suggest in late 2022?
nice video bro!, i want to know, what is the best SD card to use whit gopro?
I think the only reason to have the max lens mod is if you're doing flips and whatnot and need the horizon level all the time. .other than that, image will def. look like shhhh. But it's nice to see someone else out there totally skipped hero 10 and went to 11. That's what I did. Hero 9 to Hero 11. For the most part, I'm satisfied with the upgrade. Can't hate on it. .and the more coloring with the 10 bit color. I notice the difference in my playback footage. But I really like the higher frame rate with higher resolution for recording my dog in motion. His slo mo is great. Had to update my external hard drive capacity [to 20tb] to keep all the footage. These videos of my dog will be cherished for all time in the future. Love that little guy. . .
I liked hyperview at first. but when i watch it on a big screen it gives me a headache. I think the 8:7 Wide works better. and then just crop some of the top and bottom off to make it 16:9
I have to hero 9 and I just go natural interview because I'm doing art , what settings do you recommend when you doing some kind of things like face down to the table , because I record art
Can u tell me for setting protune gopro 9 or 11 you used for your videos ??
Love your videos ronster, glad your feeling better. Planning on buying your razer kit on christmas! :)
Love the vids Keep up the great work. I wanna start doing what you do so your a huge inspiration for me to start.
Great video thanks for all the good insight!
I'm just wondering what you are using to capture the audio while riding? Do you have a mic in your helmet and if so what are you using?
Thanks eh
I have a brand new go pro 11, it worked fine in the beginning but for some reason, the video footage has this "stop/continue" thing, so it freezes for a 1/10 of a second and then continues, and this happens 2/3 times a second. its all brand new, the sd card is a 256 gb samsumg evo ( so not the best, but it should be good enough), do you have any idea?
Glad to see videos where people are talking about it. I have stopped using GoPro completely. It freezes and hangs and very unpredictable. Moved to Insta 360. And super happy
The Max lens mod was developed for the GoPro 9, and it worked with the 10. The GoPro 11 does not need the Max lens mod, although it can be used on it.
Exactly, why buy a Hero 11 and an upgrade to the camera that you are upgrading away from?
Uh, for larger sensor, 10-bit color, builtin 360° horizon lock (no max lens needed), and higher frame rates for top resolutions over the 9.
@@DanDennedy my point is that he bought an upgrade that is meant for the camera he's moving away from.
The Max lens mod was built for the Hero 9, but still helped the Hero 10.
The Hero 11 is compatible with the mod, but it won't improve it.
@@hiddencitypictures sorry I misunderstood your reply
@@DanDennedy No problem, I did word it poorly.
Hey bro! you have very good audio, how are you recording your audio? I mean which equipment you are using to record your voice for this video? your answer will be really appreciated
Hi great video, thanks for the info, can you tell me what editing software you use thank you.
For max lens mod: rec in 2.7k 4:3 then squish it in post to 16:9 This will get you the fov you want. Idk how it compares to HyperView but its wider than superview (I have a hero 10)
I have the Hero 8 Black and the Hero 10 Black. Unless I'm shooting myself, where I can see the front lens of the 10, I find I'm using the 8 the most, because all the features I really need are there. There was a definite improvement from the 8 to the 10 with that front screen. I never had a 9, so I don't know if that was already there or not. I do NOT see enough difference in the 11 to justify an "upgrade".
what if you try hyper view mode with the max lens. maybe more fov?
Hey man! I love ur vids and I have a question about the sur Ron. Did u mod it to be street legal? If not, are u allowed to be riding it on bike lanes and the road? I’m looking to get one but not sure about it. I see many people riding it in the street but also people getting their bikes taken?!
Good camera and quality. Love it. But the only problem is the audio I could here the wind a lot and it was kind of drowning out your voice. Other than that love it!
This is my first time seeing your channel and I enjoyed the video. I have used the gopro 5,7,8,10, Max and now the 11. I definitely agree with your review. The mobile and desktop app need the upgrades more than the cameras now. I am selling two of my 8’s and the max to get the X3.
Nice Video! is it better to use 30fps or 60fps when making these types of videos?
Thanks for this review, you are one of the first which actually talks about the workflow and difference with older models. Keep the great work.
Wow it's great seeing an honest review like this. Well done.
Thanks bro
first word when I saw the HyperView. "WOAH!" literally looks so crisp and makes the videos better to watch! so glad you got the upgrade.
Love that feedback thank you!
Thanks for your thorough review and side by side footage comparison. Btw which helmet + goggle combo you wear?
I just got the 11 Creator package and also picked up to max lens, you are correct they do scratch ez lol I had one for my 9 dropped my GoPro a and the only thing that got damaged was the lens😢 what do you use for you audio
Great review indeed. I am glad I kept my GoPro 9 and never upgraded to the 11. Also, man I SUPER agree with you about the crappy phone app, while not having any real desktop computer application to use. Even Insta360 who offers phone editing app for their 360 cameras, have also a desktop app available to use (which is the only one I use). I don't understand how people can make professional editing using their phone, which is not made for this at all. 🤔
PS: Non related to GoPro but had to add this; Be careful out there with your bike. I saw you ride in a "wild" way sometimes, which looks pretty cool on camera, until you get hit by a distracted driver, and then it will look less cool from the hospital's bed (talking from experience).
I think the whole point of max lens is to get undistorted superview and 360 horizon lock. would be cool if it was wider than hyperview :/
So can you just swapped out motors without swapping out controllers?
hi i thist wont to know what bike did use in video and do u need a license for it and how far can it go
Great review of this product. I just feel GoPros products have not changed much. Love the honest review! Looking for other options now 🤙
M2,
any suggestions?
@@tapalpa I see the insta360 is making a big push…
These are good points you raise with the GoPro. If anything, I feel that GoPro should be getting better. Especially that more UA-camrs are coming onto the scene and using this company's products. I recommend sending them an email with THIS video in a link. Good luck to you my dude.
Hi, I got the GoPro 11.. used 4K 60FPS Superview whilst on my Motorbike.. but I can't get my macbook pro (2020) to open/recognise any of the MP4 files? Tried Handbrake to convert and even that isn't recognising it?
max lens mod ie the gopro max (360 cam)? I thought you only got it if you wanted horizon leveling on your shots.
The HERO11 will record uncropped 5.3K 8:7 aspect ratio. Hyperview is just taking that and stretching it to 16:9. I’m a big fan of 16:9 but I’d prefer watching the unstretched 8:7 for your riding content.
Also, when using the Max Lens Mod, you can keep the GoPro in normal mode (I.e., not enabling Max Lens Mode) and it will record a fisheye circle view. This will get you a much wider angle. Especially if you use the full 8x7 aspect ratio.
Loved the video! I never considered some of your needs for a GoPro. It’s a huge bummer they haven’t kept the desktop software up-to-date!
It records 8:7 but UA-cam uses a 19:9 aspect ratio so that's what you're seeing
@@danvinogradov138 You can upload the 4:3 or 8:7 to youtube. You can check that if you download the video, but when you go full screen on youtube, it will ofc have bezels on the side if you have 16:9 monitor, or am i missing something? I was using 4:3 monitor on youtube and if i play 4:3 video, it is full screen
I've never had a gopro but I got the DJI Action 2 and love it. It's much more of a blend of a mini-cam or vlogging cam in comparison to the Action 1, Action 3, or GoPro, but the imagine quality is great and it's really a very wonderful product.
I will check out DJI - I've had it with Go Pro.
the Action 4 is more than likely the one you'll want now, kind of depends for use case. Some quirks with the Action 2 but it's also in a league of it's own as a small camera. The Pocket 1 + 3 are also great. Even DJI had the Pocket 1 refurbished for 99 or 109 recently, I forget. Lot of camera for the price, and the stabilization is better on the pocket than any mainstream digital stabilization, such as whatever newest GoPro.@@TheOriginalMarimoChan
hyperview looks little weird, also when you busing out the mx650 again?
What audio system or equipment are you using ?
Watching on a tv, i notice the quality is way better on the 11, those 60fps is a must, i felt bad when you jumped to hero 9, the road looked sooo bad on the 9 😁👍 worth it upgrade
This is why I stick with my old Hero 7 & 8 cameras. The new GoPros seem to have more issues than my old ones do!!! 😮
Actually I find the opposite to be true. Heros 10 and 11 are vastly improved in reliability and speed of start/stop rec. I upgraded to the 11 from the 9, night and day difference. I don't even use the 9 anymore and will sell it.
Awesome real life review. Looking for a camera for Drone FPV filming, what's your recommendation?
I don't have a new one but I think you get more "features" with the newer ones and because of that they use more battery life, so it cancels out the extra Mha they put in the battery. maybe they should figure out better cooling since all the software running in the background is causing over heating issues with the camera and slowly killing the battery
You putting the Tesla batteries in the razor mini bike is my favorite video!
Ok comment that on THE video then
Honestly for our use-case, there hasn't been any useful improvement since the GP7. I often edit vids with shots from various GP from 7 to 10 and honestly, I'd have a hard time telling the difference!
Depends on colour saturation. A problem I had with the older GoPros was that when they filmed highly saturated colours in bright sunshine, the colour information would clip in a really strange way, and bright reds would often get rendered as orange or sometimes pink. With bright kayaking kit it was a problem. There's no such issues with the new cameras as the colour science has been improved considerably.
@@simonwyndham Yeah. On the other hand, on the GP7 flat colour is really flat whereas since the 8, it's more contrasted… Each version has its pros & cons and each version works quite fine once you dialled everything in Protune.
The issue you mention was probably most noticeable with auto White balance I guess.
@@MTO_Brothers i've owned the 7, 8, 9 and 10. the only one left is the 7b..... the rest got fat, heavy , lost useful features like live view during recording, support of the older remote, cases started to change and crashed more than the 7. the new gopro app is just crap and refuse to use it when i have Tbs on my PC free for editing files with ONE transfer.
Time to GoBro!
its all about pumping out a new camera for the shareholders not refining a good model for the love of it for the users
@@sk7262 Couldn't agree more pal! I personally use the 7B too.
What camera are you using now? 9 or 12?
Are you selling your BAC 4000? Your current favorite battery provider is ChiBattery?
I’m not @ all tech savvy,but want to upgrade to 72 Volt. I’m 79 years old and like the light weight of the SurRon.
Nice video, I love the new GoPro. Can you please keep the speedometer in the top left 👍 Also the hyperview looks amazing
My man casually riding it like he stole it while chatting with himself on the internet. Gotta love it.
P.S. Performance in the cold is important for us snow mexicans. Six minute battery life on cold winter days does get annoying eventually. Thank you.
Yo im trying to convince my parents to buy me MX650 then get the electric and co kit. Got any tips on where I could be an affordable MX 650 that’s used. The electric and co is expensive though.
Hey, Surronster can you make a video on how to do the battery settings on the bac 4000 I just got the 4000 yesterday and I’m getting the battery tomorrow and I don’t know how to do the settings I got the 72 V gladiator Max
I definitely agree!!!!!! They have been slacking hard lately! I am very disappointed with my 10 and 11, seams like they are getting worse rather then better with quality and stabilization. I'll be going with DJI
Subscribed for useful review.. unbiased like other paid UA-camrs out there.
If you want more bike and sky have you tried filming in the 4:3 mode? That way the sensor isn’t cropped vertically. You can always stretch it back to 16:9 in post if that’s the ratio you want, but you’ll get the full view.
What are your run times typically in general?
I think the hero 11 was a great upgrade. There is almost no wind noises (which there are on the hero 9), the colors and the more fps makes a big difference for the video, and the hyperview is a great upgrade from the superview. i dont see why to hate it except for the max lens which doesnt make a big difference except the distortion. anyways great video with good comparisons :)
I think it's more about how everything gopro puts out comes with issues right out the box. Yes it works as stated, but it still overheats, still gets screen if death, has super view but super distorted... it's not ideal. I can't tell you how often the gopro fails on me the moment I really need it, it's not a consistent workhorse at all. It is a temperamental drama queen and we are calling them out
@@PoseidonProductions definelty if you’re living in a “warm” country the Gopro is not ideal. But for fx Denmark and Norway its fine cause it isnt too hot up here.
Dear God this couldn’t be more on point. So many good observations. GoPro needs to step their game up.
peace and blessings be upon you brother please tell me how much is your electric bike? and how long its capacity battery takes
How do you get the speed on the screen?
Hyperview looks 🔥
honestly i'd much prefer the 11 black becuase the 60fps is nice, and the hyperview looks amazing too compared to the 9.
Hey Surronster whats your surrons top speed?
Damn that was brutal and hilarious af. Appreciate you doing the leg work for us 🤘 thinkin ill stick with my one rs for now
Hmm, not sure I agree with most of this. Remember, the Max Lens Mod was brought out for the HERO9. It's an older product, and yes, it can still be used with the HERO11, but I feel that it's a legacy product. The good news is that the taller sensor on the 11 would open up the ability to create a new Max Lens Mod that focusses its imaging circle on the same sensor area that is used in the new Linear + Horizon lock mode. If GoPro did that, then it should be possible to get an ultra-wide field of view in 4K with full horizon lock. Whether they will do it or not is another matter, but it's technically possible.
Regards to editing, yeah, it's not great if there is that problem with telemetry, although GoPro hasn't discontinued the desktop app. It's now the GoPro Player and incorporates ReelStead. Maybe they'll add telemetry again to it in the future. One thing I will say is that although the colours on the DJI Action 3 are not quite as good as GoPro, the Ultra-wide mode on it is, well, truly ultra-wide. I'm hoping GoPro increases the FOV on future cameras to compete, since the Action 3 does so with comparatively little distortion. But it's all good for competition.
TL;DR: Max lens is poop, rest is ok. Telemetry problems, but was fixed in an annoying way. Sur Ronster very angry and waving arms. There, saved you 15 minutes.
How do you get your speed in the videos
I just upgraded to the GoPro Hero 11 too but im waiting for it to come in... Im a huge camera nerd and like getting into the manual settings when it comes to photos and videos. I know its really convinient to just have standard 4k 60fps on and record but you should totally try messing with the manual "protune" settings.
Something like 4k 30fps / 60 shutter speed / iso min: 100 / iso max: 1600 / throw a little 32ND or even a 16ND filter on the front and record with hyper smooth turned off... Just a thought cause thats what i record most of my stuff with. Ive also been messing around with different export settings on premiere pro to find the best, high bit rate export it gives me without saving a huge video file. But yeah man i love the channel and love the content! Cant wait to see more videos! Love from Miami Florida.
That 4k 60fps was gorgeous!
I am thinking of getting a gopro hero 11 as a UA-cam camera and for outside, is it worth?
I am 1:39 into the video, chill
What bike do you have ?
keep up the great work, been watching every vid for about a year now, love to see a new uploads,
So looking forward for the KO MOTOR upgrade. My stock motor on the surron has packed up after only 1800 miles and I have done no upgrades.
Does the gopro11 have a speedo or is that something you put in your video?
Nevermind got my answers lol... Great vid bro
Cool video!!
My 2 cents, can't see a huge difference with the wide angle lens on GPH11...might be because of the digital crop stabilisation. I think if it would be mounted on a chest strap it would give you what you're looking for.
Wow that was a great upgrade looks so much better ! Love the vids man ! :)
Yo first time viewer. Suuuuuper impressed with your content. Authentic, fast, quality info. Can’t ask for more. Domoarigato 🙏🏼
I miss the wheelie ride out vids, consider making one soon! much love ❤
For the People that have a Surron is the bike small or should I get a kit that makes it higher I’m 6,2
I'm 6-4 it's fine i got a wake riser stem on it from day 1 tho
I really like the bike. Can you tell me what is the brand ?
I bought my 2nd GoPro Hero 11 black yesterday and my first GoPro was around 2016 . Gopro's have completely changed from just being a action camera to cool looking gadgets now . Also if you guys notice earlier they would market it GoPro "be a hero" now you don't find it on their packages . It's sad , how the company just keep marketting what their cams can do now rather how a GoPro was initially
What bike is it?
Does black hero 8 got better graphics?
I would raccomend you to film for POV only in 4:3 or using the new format 8x7. Keep it up!
awsome video what kinda bikke is that bro ??