Fiio BTR5 REVIEW! vs. UTWS3 and Qudelix 5K

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024

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  • @SuperReview
    @SuperReview  3 роки тому +37

    CORRECTION: This new BTR5 indeed uses a new ESS DAC chip due to "chip shortage" related to the previous chip, BUT I was wrong about the previous chip being an AKM chip. The previous chip was ALSO an ESS chip. Sorry for the misinfo, I made an assumption based on the common AKM chip shortages affecting other DAC products.

    • @sarahgomez9727
      @sarahgomez9727 2 роки тому

      I was looking at an older video on the review for Fiio q3 and wondered if that is better for a dac than the fiio btr5. I am just getting into dacs and trying to learn as much as I can to get the best learning experience. Just got the latest WH-1000XM4 too that I love and would love to use a good dac. Like for Apple music since they just implemented better sound quality features and lossless or dolby atoms audio. Still confused with reviews though if even these certain headphones can pick up the spatial dolby or lossless but from reading it seems so. Then, would like to see if sony's 360 reality audio worked with bettering with dacs? Would be cool since rumors that Sony may be getting better sound quality and 360 reality audio to compete with Apple music. Also, heard you had a discord. Do you guys take questions or help people out on setting up dacs and to get to know them better? Sorry if these alot of questions but you seem like a pretty smart person on these stuff and people in the comments too. Thanks and any one having the time to read and answer any of this.

    • @adrianmorrish8494
      @adrianmorrish8494 2 роки тому +1

      @@sarahgomez9727 btr5 is a nice little usb DAC esp as can turn charge off so dosent drain power, can’t use its EQ via USB though so if use EQ would have to be on source

  • @Bushviking
    @Bushviking 3 роки тому +16

    I own both the Qudelix and the BTR3K. I use the Qudelix around the house with my HD600s (2.5 balanced), just doing chores and it sounds great (boost the bass just slightly and you're dancing with the vacuum cleaner). Outdoors/commuting I use it with BLONs05s, also a great combo. The BTR ended up in my car as bluetooth receiver (Toyota in-built stereo didn't have any, but luckily it did have a usb) and it improved the quality of car audio greatly. Spotify streaming now sounds more dynamic and bass-rich then playing an old-fashioned cd. So both are loved here.

    • @iKaGe01
      @iKaGe01 3 роки тому +2

      CD is higher bitrate/quality than Spotify 320kbps, not that anyone can really tell

    • @Bushviking
      @Bushviking 3 роки тому +2

      @@iKaGe01 True, but bitrate isn't everything. The DAC probably adds a little bit of flavor that makes it sound "more energetic". Perhaps it's just a really poor inbuilt cd-player+dac.

  • @jeffrose61
    @jeffrose61 3 роки тому +44

    I ended up with the Qudelix over BTR5 mainly due to the battery bypass option when on USB since their specs were basically the same. so if I want it on something like a laptop/PC I won't cause any battery wear
    also a fan of the qudelix being relatively unbreakable compared to btr5's screen

    • @mib5633
      @mib5633 2 роки тому

      i'm thinking of buying the 5k soon, i didn't know about this bypass feature! how does it work? is it automatic or does it need activating?

    • @Allen-R
      @Allen-R Рік тому

      Battery Bypass??? Holy Shit.
      I was originally gonna buy it anyway since it had the charging limit setting and parametric equalizer thing, but shit keeps getting better.

  • @Xilfarth
    @Xilfarth 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much for the review. I'm going with the Qudelix 5k for range, battery life, and eq settings.

  • @spikespaz
    @spikespaz Рік тому +2

    You're awesome. Thanks for the depth of an hour long review. Not many review channels like you.

  • @mrfrosty3
    @mrfrosty3 3 роки тому +19

    I've been using a BTR5 for most of my listening for a year. It sounds great. I never use the app, because of the screen you don't need to open the app for basic things like checking the volume. I don't use EQ or mess about with filters. With other devices you have to use the phone app. That clip is much stronger than my es100 clip.

    • @SSchithFoo
      @SSchithFoo Рік тому +1

      Mine died after 2 years and 11 months, the battery expanded till the covers popped out from both ends.

    • @garygarlucialuciani9794
      @garygarlucialuciani9794 Рік тому

      Do you need the app to pair it to your device or is there a button on the btr5 you can use to pair it to your device?

  • @gavin5861
    @gavin5861 2 роки тому +2

    Wasn't expecting to find such a long and detailed review/comparison of Both the products I was looking at buying, THANK YOU!

  • @dsirius1500
    @dsirius1500 2 роки тому +2

    Thx for the review dude, I was searching for a BT Amp and narrowed to BTR5 and UTWS5 and I chose BTR5. I am amazed that BTR5 way is smaller than UTWS5 case. Keep posting.

  • @metal571
    @metal571 3 роки тому +22

    Features: it spins really well

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому +6

      It can't, it won't, and it don't stop.

  • @eruilluvitar
    @eruilluvitar 3 роки тому +4

    I'm sorry I missed this stream! I'm actually listening to this on my own BTR5 (AKM version) and I love it! I did just order an iFi GO Blu to see if I like that better. Happy to send it to you once I get it if you're interested!

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому

      Do you have similar range limitations on your BTR5?

    • @eruilluvitar
      @eruilluvitar 3 роки тому +1

      @@SuperReview No, I don't. I'm able to use it across my house (~25 feet) including in my kitchen with a refrigerator and multiple walls between the BTR5 and the BT source (my Pixel 4XL).

    • @thisismickj
      @thisismickj 5 місяців тому

      How do you find the iFi GO Blu compared to the BTR5?

  • @michaelcorcoran8768
    @michaelcorcoran8768 3 роки тому +3

    I've been hoping to see a review like this. These three items in particular have been in my eye for a while.

  • @bernamej
    @bernamej 11 місяців тому +1

    To me this is the best reviewer about audio.
    It’s always super on point clear and relevant. Never disappointed.

  • @krash4291
    @krash4291 3 роки тому +36

    I have 2 BTR5s...that is how much I like this thing, wish Fiio would make a bigger (but still pocketable) BTR7 with more battery and a 4.4 socket, something like a balanced XP-2 Pro or Bluetooth Q3 plus a screen.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому +1

      How do you use two of them?

    • @JohnClarkW
      @JohnClarkW 3 роки тому

      Do have two so you can get through a full day without recharging, or do you have one per machine you use them with with? I have though about one for work and one for personal, since I can't seem to pair one with both.

    • @Amatugold
      @Amatugold 3 роки тому +3

      As someone who has one plugged into a computer as a makeshift soundcard/amp, and takes it with me to work, I can see the utility in having one for on the go and one that's dedicated to home use.

    • @krash4291
      @krash4291 3 роки тому +2

      @@SuperReview One for my phone and one for my 2 tablets, so I don't have to switch between them, and this way I only need to charge them every 2 or 3 days.

    • @krash4291
      @krash4291 3 роки тому +4

      @@JohnClarkW yes for me it is one for work (phone) and one for personal (tablets), and I put them in different cases so I don't mix them up.

  • @nightringer9815
    @nightringer9815 3 роки тому +17

    I wanna add a few things. I've been living and using FIIO BTR5 for several months. It is the older ESS Sabre Dual DAC, not the 2021 release.
    The bluetooth distance range you mentioned, I don't find it problematic. As long I have direct line of sight with the phone, it stays connected.
    As for the programmable power off, there's an option called Idle Time you can set to turn off power once there is nothing communicated between the defice (smartphone and BTR5). I have built the habit of turning it off after every usage.
    Sound quality over USB is much higher than Bluetooth, even set with LDAC. So if I am sitting down at my desk using my laptop, using BTR5 as DAC/Amp for USB to earphone is actually a lot more enjoyable, especially with higher quality earphones and headphones.
    SQ wise it is probably one of the best portable Bluetooth DAC/Amp currently available in the market. Sound quality is better than BTR3K. The only competitor that I have not tried is Shanling UP5, which is at the same level.
    However, there is 2 problem worth mentioning:
    1. Microphone was good for indoor, but not so good for outdoor use.
    2. Running or walking around with BTR5 connected to my phone in my pocket sometimes there's a disconnection because my body blocks the dirsct line of sight.
    Hope thatsl helps

    • @numefals234
      @numefals234 3 роки тому +1

      Hi ,there is no version of btr5 which has AKM DAC.

    • @nightringer9815
      @nightringer9815 3 роки тому

      @@numefals234 My apology, ES Sabre

    • @samurottman6832
      @samurottman6832 3 роки тому +1

      Hey sorry if it's pretty obvious but when you plug in through usb does it still power on with its battery or is the laptop powering it

    • @nightringer9815
      @nightringer9815 3 роки тому

      @@samurottman6832 Powered by laptop or smartphone, if you connect it to your phone. I must warn you, it drains phine battery fast. I use BTR5 via USB to my phone, I drained 40% of my phone battery in 20-30 of listening, I think. But the sound is so good using USB.

    • @samurottman6832
      @samurottman6832 3 роки тому +1

      @@nightringer9815 Ah thanks for the reply, I'm planning on getting the btr5 for laptop and phone use. Laptop through usb and phone with Bluetooth

  • @tomfrank2707
    @tomfrank2707 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the fairly thorough and detailed review. I've shopped this thing ever since the original came out. To this day I have never decided to buy one. I have, however, bought 3 ES100'S (one of which I gave to my son on his birthday 2 years ago); one that I'm still currently using, and one still in the box as a backup. Also have the Qudelix 5K, which I just recently acquired. Both are excellent sounding devices; yet both sound different due to the ES100 using dual AK4452-3 dac chips and the Qudelix using dual ES Sabre chips. As you mentioned, the Qudelix has better range, even more than the ES100. Not a huge issue for me (unless I'm downloading music via a wifi connection from my neighbor to my phone....in which case, I need to keep my phone outside in order to keep the download going). Going inside my apartment to use the washroom or make food in the kitchen; I get no dropouts with the Qudelix on LDAC, whereas the ES100 frequently drops out but I still can get at least 20 feet between walls and/or doors with it. The big no sell for me with the BTR5 is the fact that you can't use EQ in LDAC and the fact that the other 2 devices I mentioned can. I also prefer the smaller size of both the Qudelix and the ES100 with their built in clips. I don't use the clips on my shirt or belt...I clip them to my cable and wear the devices like a pendant around my neck. Both are extremely comfortable when worn this way. The bigger size of the BTR5 likely wouldn't work for me either. I'll stick to the ES100 and Qudelix.

    • @TF2ReplayMaker
      @TF2ReplayMaker 2 роки тому

      Hi, I've owned the ES100 since 2019. Same as you, I've been eyeing these devices for months. Question: If I have the ES100 already, is the Qudelix worth a buy? Or should I save my money? What are the differences between the two?
      Been looking for an upgrade in portable dac/amps

    • @tomfrank2707
      @tomfrank2707 2 роки тому +3

      @@TF2ReplayMaker I guess it depends on what what's important to you. Both the ES100 and Qudelix have great sounding dual dac chips inside each of them. The AKM chips in the ES100 are a bit warmer and fuller sounding than the ESS Sabre chips in the Qudelix, but since both have a GEQ in them, it's possible to get them to sound to your preferences. Both have balanced outputs, will do LDAC, have really decent power to drive most iems (and even some lower impedance headphones)and have excellent apps. I may be forgetting to mention something here; but I'd say that that's where the similarities end. The Qudelix is, imho, the more mature and improved device. Firmware updates are more frequently available (the ES100 hasn't had any in quite some time) and are much easier to install because they download through the app, much like a Firmware update works on a phone. You can't do that with the ES100. The Bluetooth range of the Qudelix is much better. If EQ is something that you often use, the Qudelix also has a parametric EQ that offers more adjustability and more precisely dial in your preferred sound. Tbth, I don't use the PEQ myself. It's just way over my head. I'm a music lover and audiophile; I'm NOT a sound engineer, mixer, or studio recording master. I stick with the basic GEQ...and even then, with the Qudelix, I rarely need to adjust much, other than the preamp gain. If you do EQ your earphones and have several in your collection, the Qudelix has the ability to store up to 100 different EQ settings; whereas the ES100 only let's you store 4. Is the Qudelix an upgrade to the ES100? That is a question only you can answer. If you think that the ability to receive firmware updates through the app, better Bluetooth connectivity and range, more EQ options and the ability to save more presets is important; then yes, I'd consider it to be an upgrade. SQ wise, they are both great and utilize their different dac chips to their utmost potential. Both have a similar form factor, which is why I own them both. If you have higher impedance earphones or headphones that need more power, then maybe you need to look elsewhere. Personally, based on what I've stated above; I consider the Qudelix an upgrade. Not about sound quality; but about features and ease of use. Just my take...your milage may vary. Hope my comments help with your next purchase decision.

  • @numefals234
    @numefals234 3 роки тому +7

    Btr5 never had a AKM dac version ,old one had the ES9219P and the new version has ES9219C. Both are Sabre DAC chips.

    • @numefals234
      @numefals234 3 роки тому +1

      For future buyers to get the best out of it set the DAC clock divider to 1 in the app ,i think that is the multisampling ,I'm not sure ,but it sounds better in my opinion.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the clarification. There are a bunch of other DACs with 2021 updates switching to ESS DACs, I assumed that was what's going on here but should have looked into it before assuming.

  • @saurabbbhardwaj1930
    @saurabbbhardwaj1930 3 роки тому +4

    Looking forward to review of the ifi go Blu.. whenever it's available

  • @paullee9976
    @paullee9976 2 роки тому +2

    I think I just wait a while for the next better generation or other BT receiver with bt.5.2. Hopefully coming soon. Great detailed review bro! Really love your channel n I’ll wait for the next reviews. Cheers!

  • @abuanwp
    @abuanwp 2 роки тому +2

    Fiio battery are good in the long run.
    I have the fiio m6 for more than 2yrs now and uTWS1 going 2yrs but their battery are still as good when I purchased them.
    I prefer uTWS3 vs RMCE-TW2 because of the track skip function which I really enjoyed in uTWS1.

  • @zeissiez
    @zeissiez 2 роки тому +5

    For IEMs, my BTR5 actually sounded better than the Fiio M10, and pretty close to M11plus. A very well executed product by Fiio.

  • @MLeoM
    @MLeoM 3 роки тому +1

    Like always, top quality live stream, where people may forget it is live while watching. Peace. Stay safe.

  • @TheSilent006
    @TheSilent006 3 роки тому +5

    5k is the bomb. btr5 now sits in the same chair as e10k in the awkward good price but not as good of a value but will still be more popluar regardless because of the name thing

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 3 роки тому +2

      Does it ever go on sale? I feel like it never ever goes on sale or I probably would have pounced on it already.

    • @Zysperro
      @Zysperro 2 роки тому +2

      Meh, 5k is ~170$ in my area, which I feel is a bit too much for it, but BTR5 for 100$? Instant buy.

  • @JustLearning
    @JustLearning 11 місяців тому +1

    The Qudelix 5K also has a ton of EQ settings for just about any headphone and IEMs. You can tweak those settings or make your own settings. More versatile than the BTR 5.

  • @azazel5958
    @azazel5958 3 роки тому +5

    for me the btr5 vs 5k comes down to which one is the cheaper, in my country the btr5 is 105 and the 5k is 170 and the only thing that is truly better in the qudelix its the range, the EQ and that shit is an extra.
    In USB mode the sound quality is far better than LDAC and in my opinion the btr5 sound quality its better than the qudelix 5k in USB mode.

    • @Zysperro
      @Zysperro 2 роки тому

      Same with the price. Got it from Ali for 100$ - probably the best purchase I made there, it's awesome. The build quality alone is astonishing.

  • @arthurhaywood2184
    @arthurhaywood2184 3 роки тому +2

    The original BTR5 sold for $130. This new one is selling for $180, so there's a significant price increase!
    Personally, I'm waiting for the new iFi Audio GO blu to be released. It'll be more powerful & have a 4.4mm output. The only things it doesn't seem to have is an app (which I don't need) & a clip.

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 2 роки тому

      On Amazon now the price differential isn't that Stark. In fact the new one is 130 and the old one is out of stock and only being sold by resellers for like $180 or more

  • @theBtotheJ23
    @theBtotheJ23 Рік тому

    Great review as always. Did you notice a difference in sound quality between LDAC and using the DAC wired?

  • @iKaGe01
    @iKaGe01 3 роки тому +1

    One thing you need to do is disable Dolby Atmos or any built in audio enhancer as the phone does mess with the signal

  • @JohnClarkW
    @JohnClarkW 3 роки тому +2

    I bought a BTR5 when I went to work from home, because I can run both my phone and work PC into the same headphones. I get to be wireless and don't have to take the headphones off to take a call, and it has a mic on it. The app is really only used for setup and from what I hear is awful on Apple.

  • @kodessa
    @kodessa 3 роки тому +2

    It would've been cool if the UTWS3 had adapters for the the mmcx and .78mm connections.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому +1

      Agreed, a bit annoying you have to choose. Though other companies make such adapters.

  • @aviatoFPV
    @aviatoFPV 3 роки тому +1

    Get the Shanling UP5 in there, the only portable dac/amp in this class with a volume knob.

    • @Ratseeker
      @Ratseeker 3 роки тому

      There is also now the iFi Blu Go as a Bluetooth transceiver w/ a knob. But it just got released.

  • @marhensa
    @marhensa 2 роки тому

    another use cases is you can velcro slap this into non wireless headphones and find a cable short as possible. you could have wireless functionality (high-end one, with aptX HD or LDAC) to your beloved headphones. and got nice battery on it.
    when you aren't use this way, you could use it to your phone or laptop as normally.

  • @Canoneosmiami
    @Canoneosmiami 2 роки тому

    The best review I seen on them !

  • @KiranPasupuleti
    @KiranPasupuleti 3 роки тому

    The range issue you mentioned is definitely spot on...

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому

      Oof. Gotta get them snacks from the kitchen.

  • @amanieux
    @amanieux 3 роки тому +3

    great no BS review as usual, thanks. it is refreshing to hear an audio reviewer admitting that minute A/B testing is not representative of a casual listening. i can't even tell the difference between 128k mp3 and uncompressed audio but i can, like you do, notice obvious annoying sound differences among my iems happening on specific music pieces (tried a dozen iem sub $120 but still have to find an iem that sounds good on all my playlist )

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, maybe those minute differences matter to some people, but I do find it pretty hard to care. I feel like there's more fluctuation in my ears throughout the day than there are differences between DACs.

  • @DrewanNicholson
    @DrewanNicholson 2 роки тому +1

    Another excellent review, thank you! I'm curious to know what the max charging current is. The specs say 500mA recommended, but I'm curious if you plug it into a 2A supply, what rate it charges at. And what if you use the cable that it comes with vs. another? 500mA vs 2A recharge rates could make a huge difference in lifespan.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      I don't know how to test that.

    • @4TUN3
      @4TUN3 2 роки тому +1

      Specified max charging current is what the device will accept in any case. You can safely connect a charger that exceeds this, the safety circuits won't let more current flow through the battery. In short, using a higher specced charger won't affect battery lifespan.

  • @Dylan-zf4xh
    @Dylan-zf4xh 2 роки тому

    This was streamed? This video looks so high quality, I thought you spent hours editing such a long video

  • @theodorezurla496
    @theodorezurla496 3 роки тому +3

    Shanling up5 review please 🙏

  • @Idontevenknowmyslf
    @Idontevenknowmyslf 3 роки тому +1

    Recently sold it, couldnt use a headset while usb dac mode is pretty downside because you CAN use it while bluetooth mode. Hope BTR7 fix this

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому +1

      Do you mean that the microphone on the headset doesn't work over USB?

    • @Idontevenknowmyslf
      @Idontevenknowmyslf 3 роки тому +1

      @@SuperReview yess, exactly

  • @jb678901
    @jb678901 2 роки тому +1

    Bought the BTR5K over the Qudelix 5...reasoning...Amazon was out of stock on the Qudelix 5! Also, holiday discounts made the BTR5K an easy purchase decision. Bottom line...good enough.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому +1

      Buttons are def better. If the range isn't an issue for you, and you don't plan to EQ, not a bad choice.

  • @markreif1
    @markreif1 3 роки тому +1

    How about a comparison with the soon to be released iFi GO blu?

  • @eruilluvitar
    @eruilluvitar 3 роки тому +2

    Also, I'm really surprised about your range issues - I'm able to use it across my house (~25 feet) including in my kitchen with a refrigerator and multiple walls between the BTR5 and the BT source (my Pixel 4XL).

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому

      Damn, I'm jealous. TBH I thought it might be an issue with my unit, so I did some Googling and saw a number of reports of people with similar issues. I wonder what's the variable.

    • @eruilluvitar
      @eruilluvitar 3 роки тому +2

      @@SuperReview Diagnosing BT problems is a massive pain because there are so many variables. One possible explanation I just tested is that if I tell my phone to _only_ use LDAC with it, the reception at long distance is poor, but that's true of all bluetooth connections - LDAC requires basically full connection strength. Anything less and it'll have to use a different codec.

    • @juanblanco7898
      @juanblanco7898 3 роки тому

      What BT codec are you using with it? I only have the connection stability and range issues with LDAC set on the highest quality option.

    • @eruilluvitar
      @eruilluvitar 3 роки тому

      @@juanblanco7898 With my Pixel 4 XL it'll use the highest quality codec it can based on the connection strength. From what I can tell, 99% of the time it's LDAC since I tend to just keep both the BTR5 and my phone on me.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому

      I tested primarily with LDAC, but when I ran into the range issues I switched to Aptx to see if it would improve. Still could not get a snack and drink of water from the kitchen. I tried with Qudelix on LDAC and it reaches across the house.

  • @ShivasIrons22
    @ShivasIrons22 3 роки тому +4

    I have the BTR5, non MQA model. It sounds great, which is obviously important. Battery life is just ok. I too have found the Bluetooth range to be poor.

  • @DavidFletcher566
    @DavidFletcher566 2 роки тому

    Great video. Thanks!

  • @asan1050
    @asan1050 2 роки тому +1

    THANKS!

  • @knawl
    @knawl 2 роки тому

    It would be nice to compare the BTR5 to the Shanling up5 as although a bit pricier, they are in some ways more in the same category, maybe combining the better points of the BTR5 and the Qudelix 5k,. I've heard the app leaves much to be desired but supposedly the build quality is even better than the BTR5 and only slightly larger

  • @garthmckeil9539
    @garthmckeil9539 3 роки тому +1

    I have a BTR 5 and a 3. I use it daily. Decent unit.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому

      What are your main use case?

    • @garthmckeil9539
      @garthmckeil9539 3 роки тому

      I use the BTR5 with a small set of AKG buds (came with an old phone) for listening when sleeping. And I use them with Headphones or IEMs to listen to television or music (via Bluetooth through NVIDIA Shield) at home when the wife is working from home or in early mornings when no one else is up yet.

    • @garthmckeil9539
      @garthmckeil9539 3 роки тому

      Bought the BTR3 for my wife. Because it was smaller and even more convenient.

    • @garthmckeil9539
      @garthmckeil9539 3 роки тому

      BTW the Bluetooth is very weak. I have to clip it on my left sleeve temporarily when I go to get something from the kitchen.

  • @lindijones
    @lindijones 7 місяців тому

    HI, can you adjust the volume via iPhone buttons? (Either in the Fiio or Qudelix?)

  • @adrianmorrish8494
    @adrianmorrish8494 2 роки тому

    I've had mine which is the original silver one for about 2+ years, it's still going strong but wish they had improved the Bluetooth range, the btr3 has a better range but doesn't sound as resolving but it is tiny and only SE so firmly for IEM's. Am tempted to for the qudelix 5k for the parametric eq. The ifi go blu has poor Bluetooth range as well but supports aptx adaptive plus LDAC etc, aptx adaptive is the Bassett for aptx losless when it comes out, plus it has a knob (sadly electric) and my guilty pleasure xbass, I have a zen can and a hipdac and am hooked on xbass with my Sundaras, on my 6xx also good on my Zeus too much

  • @NyteStalker89
    @NyteStalker89 2 роки тому

    You gonna do a review on the new BTR7?? I think you should!

  • @lunchbreak1792
    @lunchbreak1792 3 роки тому

    I have had this and shanling up5 and while they do make you want to hold them for premium feel, I just don't have a use case for this type of device. I think it's better to get a dongle/DAP when using a wire or go full tws for convenience 🤷‍♂️

    • @Ratseeker
      @Ratseeker 3 роки тому +1

      Ignoring EQ capabilities, which would you go for? Up5/Btr

  • @letdmichael
    @letdmichael 2 роки тому +12

    I have both BTR5 and Q5k... Q5k beats BTR5 easily in sound quality, the software eq is fantastic for both simple eq or advance... BTR5 looks expensive but no where near Q5k performance

    • @trocadero1965
      @trocadero1965 Рік тому

      To me Earmen Sparrow in comparison with my btr5 has a better sound..

  • @rewp234
    @rewp234 2 роки тому +1

    I'd say the UTWS3 is way too different to be comparable, UTWS focus on turning your wired IEM into true wireless IEMs with the AMP/DAC being an add-on while the BTR5 is an AMP/DAC first with it being Bluetooth being an add-on

  • @ITSYABOYDONTE
    @ITSYABOYDONTE 2 роки тому

    makes sense about the bluetooth range. bluetooth work better with plastic, other materials limit the range.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      I dunno, phones are mostly glass and don't have the limitation.

    • @user-zl4dg5fg2o
      @user-zl4dg5fg2o 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview not necessarily. They are mostly only metals, such as aluminium and titanium.

  • @astorbeijer9424
    @astorbeijer9424 2 роки тому

    Hi! I'm not sure if UA-cam notifies you when new comments are posted to older videos, but I'm going to chance it. I have the Ifi XDSD and am totally in love with the sound, so I'm not really looking for a new portable dac/amp. I am looking for a small microphone that I can attach quickly to my Dunu cable to take phone calls. No one seems to talk about the mic quality on these little dacs, such as the Fiio, Qudelix or the new Go Blu. Have you used any of their mics? If so, which one would you recommend for phone calls?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      Sorry I haven't tested the microphones so not sure. I believe they all do have microphones at least.

    • @astorbeijer9424
      @astorbeijer9424 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview Thanks for the reply. Yeah, for some reason no one seems to test the microphones. II've scoured the UA-cam and forums and come up with barely a mention of their performance. I'm not sure why since it's a feature that the companies themselves list as a selling point.
      I appreciate your reviews. It's clear you put a lot of time and effort into them. Thanks!

  • @maybemammad3878
    @maybemammad3878 Рік тому

    I don't have any experience with DAC/amps. Is this a big upgrade in sound quality compared to an apple/Samsung dongle just for sound quality?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  Рік тому

      No, not really. www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/124ymal/debate_this/

  • @hixyhicks
    @hixyhicks 2 роки тому +2

    My btr5 bluetooth is shockingly bad if my phone is in my back pocket and btr hung round my neck it drops out constantly .I wouldnt buy another .

  • @zachtanner3461
    @zachtanner3461 Рік тому

    I use a btr3k for my car connected to a tape deck

  • @ryang2453
    @ryang2453 Рік тому

    I want to buy high quality IEMs and run bluetooth from my iPhone. will i even notice any differences in sound quality compared airpod pros? please help me!

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  Рік тому

      Will you notice, I dunno. I would. Think of it more as having variety to find the sound you like best rather than a linear scale of good - better - best.

  • @edgarva5547
    @edgarva5547 3 роки тому

    Really detailed review...
    But i wondering...
    I do have an LG G8
    I do have a suppoused to be very good budget tws the Soundpeats H1...
    But my concern... It is...
    I do have the PMB PP and the Shozy mini and the Veedix silver string... My cueston it is, any of those mid range iems are going to be better than My sound peats or any other tws even higher cost. like per say... Senheisser Momentum or Sony or any other tws...??? If the iems are connected via bluetooth....
    Of course im asking because my ears are not as trainned to see big difference between an iem wired or wireless.... I do not have the fiio but i do have the Beam 3 plus... Which it is supposed to be at least similar to the new version of BTR5 2021
    Thanks so much. my native language it is spanish so i may have more than one faults in my writing for sure...

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому

      It very much depends on what you like in audio, the music you listen to, and your frame of reference. I haven't heard those Soundpeats so not sure how they sound, but I suspect I would greatly prefer some of my IEMs. I think to really answer this question, you need to know what it is you're optimizing for -- midrange transparency, forward vocals, thicker, richer bass, etc... and you can't say "all of the above," 'cause it's all a balance.
      Y no problema la lengua, mi español es peor :P

    • @edgarva5547
      @edgarva5547 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much for taking your time to answer...
      Best Regards

  • @jaroslavfricek7772
    @jaroslavfricek7772 3 роки тому

    It would be great if you do video to teach how to work with the parametric EQ…😄✌️

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому

      Interesting idea for sure, though as someone who doesn't use EQ a lot, I'm not exactly an expert there.

    • @jaroslavfricek7772
      @jaroslavfricek7772 3 роки тому

      What I understood when you talked about BTR5… and there was the EQ you were saying I am not an EQ guy but with the Qudelix you said it’s so much cooler you can (That’s what I understood) you can play with the wave and make it Your own and you seemed to be excited about that kind of EQing… maybe😄😎✌️🔱

  • @SlipScope
    @SlipScope 3 роки тому

    37:34 I have the ubtr also and I've found that the Bluetooth noise is quite high. I can't really use any iem on it other than something like the er4sr or apple earpods with the 45ohms resistance which gets rid of the hiss (this may be due to me using ios which is restricted to AAC). How is the btr5 and qudelix in this regard? I think you mentioned the fiio is very good with noise reduction

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому +2

      Yes, both the BTR5 and Qudelix are very good with noise floor, especially if you leave the BTR5 on low gain mode. I used my most sensitive IEMs, Magaosi K5, and didn't pick up a noise floor at normal listening volumes.

    • @SlipScope
      @SlipScope 3 роки тому

      @@SuperReview oh sweet, might have to upgrade!

  • @carlripley849
    @carlripley849 2 роки тому

    Qudelix 5K balanced output in mil-watts what is power?

  • @SmokeyOwOs
    @SmokeyOwOs 2 роки тому

    I'm just recently getting into wired iems due to my True Momentums 2s by ol mate senny giving out three months into owning them, and I really don't know what to go for.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      Does this help? squig.link/list/

  • @mujec
    @mujec 2 роки тому

    Need help please,buy or not btr5,use Asus rog 5 and 3,5 jack and fiio fh5, thanks

  • @Viewer13128
    @Viewer13128 2 роки тому

    if Qudelix has audibly inferior sound quality, then it's automatically BTR5. As for knobs vs button, I prefer button because I know for sure how much the volume changed without looking, which is useful with the device or phone is a pocket or bag.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому +2

      "if Qudelix has audibly inferior sound quality, then it's automatically BTR5" I predict almost no one (myself included) would hear a difference between them.

    • @Viewer13128
      @Viewer13128 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview thanks. i thought i heard u mention qudelix being less good in sound quality, or maybe i misunderstood.

  • @renaudm-b2793
    @renaudm-b2793 2 роки тому

    Hi! This may be a silly question, but would you think the BTR5 is worth buying and using with low impedence headphones like Sennheiser's Momentum M2 (18 ohms) ? Would it make a significant upgrade to the sound quality?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      There's not enough info here for me to give you an answer. Upgrade in sound versus what? Over Bluetooth or wire? I've also never used the Momentums so I'm probably not the best to ask.

    • @renaudm-b2793
      @renaudm-b2793 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview Thank you for your feedback! I appreciate it! My Momentum headphones are wired. I would love to use them with a Bluetooth dac amp like this to make them more versatile and upgrade the sound quality from simply plugging them in my phone's (Android) and my laptop's (ASUS) headphone jacks. But I cannot find any information about the usefulness of using external dac amps with low-impedence headphones or even if it's an important aspect to consider (I'm not familiar with the technical stuff, yet I want to get the most detail from my music)

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      Every phone and laptop is different. Probably there is some improvement with an external DAC/amp, but don't expect to be blown away.

  • @garygarlucialuciani9794
    @garygarlucialuciani9794 Рік тому

    Does the fiio btr5 have a button on the device for instant pairing to a device? Or do you have to pair it through the app?

  • @ztsystem
    @ztsystem 2 роки тому

    how to compare with UTWS3 & BTW3K? Both has similar price, BTW3K seems have AMP similar with BTR5 , want to know about the sound quality between these two bluetooth module.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      I compared with UTWS3 in this video @ 29:30

  • @leonardopapantoniou4227
    @leonardopapantoniou4227 2 роки тому

    I have samsung flip 3 which has little battery power, can this device with battery incorporated be used as dac in a way to spare battery power from my phone?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      I'm not confident it will increase your battery life, depends on a lot of variables.

  • @carlripley849
    @carlripley849 2 роки тому

    Qudelix 5K sold out everywhere

  • @Goldshotty
    @Goldshotty 2 роки тому

    Would these pair nice with my airpod max’s looking to get a bigger sound out if them

  • @shnukms
    @shnukms 3 роки тому

    I have the T2 Plus and UTWS1 and never really thought of putting them together. How does it sound on the utws3?

  • @leonardcheri2118
    @leonardcheri2118 7 місяців тому

    whats up with all audio reviews never using an iphone in their reviews? most people have iphones. I think it should be mentioned or tested!

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  7 місяців тому

      Most people in the world do not have iPhones :P
      That said, I do use iPhone as my main phone. But for music libraries, I don't like iOS, so I use Android for music players.

  • @Ratseeker
    @Ratseeker 3 роки тому +1

    Where my boi Shanling Up5 ;-;

  • @thirdnormalform
    @thirdnormalform 2 роки тому

    Is the BTR5 a good option for making a wired headset / mic wireless? I'm looking for something to make my Zoom calls less tethered.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому +1

      It'll do that, yeah.

    • @thirdnormalform
      @thirdnormalform 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview Thx, planning on using the BTR5 with a DPA lavalier mic. Crossing fingers that is adequately paired.

  • @CB-bi1be
    @CB-bi1be 2 роки тому

    You literally skipped over the one and only thing I wanted to know about. The usb 2.0 menu… does it switch to usb 1.0 for older devices? @ 13:43 you just didn’t go into detail about that menu

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      I have no idea, that's probably a better question for Fiio.

    • @CB-bi1be
      @CB-bi1be 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview well I figured it out by reading the user manual… unbelievable that you don’t even know what usb 1.0 and usb 2.0 mode are. No thanks to you I figured it out about 2 min later. But god damn man you actually don’t know jack shit…your just shilling audio gear with high praise on every single thing you “review”

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      I knew you could do it 👍

  • @santiherawati8812
    @santiherawati8812 2 роки тому

    What is the sound would it be if I pair it with Xduoo X3ii which you’d reviewed before.

  • @carlripley849
    @carlripley849 2 роки тому

    what about the dual mics v2 btr5

  • @moi-.-bicxo
    @moi-.-bicxo 2 роки тому

    Does it affects the mic quality?

  • @Jeffdachefz
    @Jeffdachefz 3 роки тому

    gain is not a volume knob, its just to match the preamp signal. You take that belief with you into real speaker systems with amplifiers, you'll destroy every thing in a blaze of fire.

  • @amanieux
    @amanieux 2 роки тому

    if you graphed these 3 sources with the same iem, would difference you heard be visible on a graph ? thanks

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      When I've tried in measuring FR differences between sources, I've not gotten much, no. The differences are so slight that it could just be variations in the measurement method.

    • @amanieux
      @amanieux 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview so can the differences we hear between sources, more on the placebo side ?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      Some differences are real, they're just minor and hard to notice outside of careful A-B testing.

  • @iKaGe01
    @iKaGe01 3 роки тому +2

    I actually sent the original BTR5 back for the 5k as I much prefered the software and the ability to do some clever EQ.
    This new one having an ESS is very interesting.
    One thing about the 5k is it'll tell you what your phone is truly using bitrate wise as my Android typically chooses a low bitrate LDAC so have to force it most of the time
    4.4mm is too big surely? 2.5mm is the best lol

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому

      4.4 just getting more common, both on DAPs and as included cables.

  • @ClavaLad
    @ClavaLad 3 роки тому +2

    I'm still surprised I got my btr5 for 85$

  • @darrylclements814
    @darrylclements814 2 роки тому

    Might be a silly question. But can I use I headphone splitter attached to the BTR5?

  • @Hewdiddy
    @Hewdiddy 3 роки тому

    I also get excellent range on mine. Wonder if the phone being used matters?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      Interesting, thanks for the data point. The phone / source device can matter, definitely. For example, my M1 MacBook Air seems to make my Bluetooth devices perform better than anything else I use. Though FWIW, I tested all of the devices in this video on the same Xperia 10, which is my typical source for Bluetooth music listening.

    • @Hewdiddy
      @Hewdiddy 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview I'm wondering if yours is defective or something is out of spec. I can walk across my house with mine, with multiple walls, and it works. I can go upstairs and it starts to break up a little. I am also using AAC which may be more robust than AptX or LDAC (I honestly don't know). Too many variables to tell for sure, but I guess my point is I wouldn't remove the BTR5 from consideration based on range concerns, based on my experience. I love mine, it does 90% of what I want a DAP to do for $110. Thanks for replying!

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      Well which phone are you using? I did some searching online, and it seems like poor range is pretty common.

    • @Hewdiddy
      @Hewdiddy 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview iPhone 12 Pro Max

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      I tried LDAC and Aptx, but never tried AAC. It may do better with that.

  • @kylerclarke2689
    @kylerclarke2689 3 роки тому +2

    the BTR5 rules. Granular volume control and no need for a cord coming out of my phone are indispensable. Use mine for the Blessing 2 and soon the IER-Z1R. Anyone who says you need a $1000 DAP is on crack

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому +4

      Nothing against crack.

    • @Hari-kx2er
      @Hari-kx2er 2 роки тому

      Have you compared it with something like a Fiio M11 Plus or Hiby R6 2020?

    • @outofvideos
      @outofvideos 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview ...bum crack.

  • @tammasus
    @tammasus Рік тому

    Let me review this device which i didn’t tested that much 😆

  • @sergios.5147
    @sergios.5147 2 роки тому

    Bluetooth stability still been trash, a have BTR5 almost from the release and I hope FiiO launch a BTR7 fixing all bugs

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому +1

      Qudelix does it great already.

  • @ulamss5
    @ulamss5 2 роки тому

    ifi Go BLU review + comparisons soon?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому +1

      Yep, maybe today.

    • @ulamss5
      @ulamss5 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview holy cow lol, you actually did! what a madlad

  • @squidknifer
    @squidknifer 2 роки тому

    When paired with the Sony Walkman a105, is it better than the xduuo pro2?

    • @squidknifer
      @squidknifer 2 роки тому

      Via USB *

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому +1

      I haven't tried, can't think of why it would be any different.

  • @ronnieryanpc
    @ronnieryanpc 2 роки тому

    When connected to a pc/mac can i use this as an external sound card?

  • @KayvonJavid
    @KayvonJavid 3 роки тому

    I have one in titanium. The glass just scares me all the time because it drops sometimes.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому

      Who drops it?

    • @KayvonJavid
      @KayvonJavid 3 роки тому

      @@SuperReview I drop my things all the time. I am just worried that it will be my btr5 next

    • @adriangpuiu
      @adriangpuiu 2 роки тому

      @@KayvonJavid youre very young bro, if you started dropping things at this age I would be worried :)))))

  • @bengrimmerson4365
    @bengrimmerson4365 3 роки тому

    The Mpow b129 is a cheap receiver i bought after Zeos rec'd it. Great product except for range which cuts out everytime I leave the room. Fiio m6 cost way more than the Mpow at $130, and lagged so bad watching videos I returned it.
    The first portable recceiver I bought, Sony sbh50 is still running attached to a speaker in my bathroom, cuz that thing is water resistant and has FM radio.

    • @kyoroshidest1865
      @kyoroshidest1865 3 роки тому

      I own the MPOW BH390, it does have Aptx and does improve the volume. But there's a slight buzzing in the background which annoys me

  • @SmokeyOwOs
    @SmokeyOwOs 2 роки тому

    It's kind of a rip you can't find the fiio btr5 for MSRP anymore.

  • @jaroslavfricek7772
    @jaroslavfricek7772 3 роки тому +1

    Water is underrated….😆👍😎❤️

  • @philipvalenzuela4969
    @philipvalenzuela4969 2 роки тому

    Can you connect it to a pc... Then connect my tws to it?

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому

      I think you're asking if this will do Bluetooth transmission (in addition to receiving). To be honest, I'm not sure -- their website doesn't say anything about transmission. www.fiio.com/btr52021

  • @ToloyKeripinMunsang
    @ToloyKeripinMunsang 3 роки тому

    BTR5 v2 is coming.. and ifi Blue enters the fray

  • @cupcakeobsession
    @cupcakeobsession 2 роки тому

    Shanling got th UP5, Fiio go refreshed BTR5, qudelix when? 😔

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому +1

      Review? Not planning one.

    • @cupcakeobsession
      @cupcakeobsession 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReview oh no, thats not what i meant. Misunderstanding was understandable, that was my fault.
      I ment whens new qudelix release...

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  2 роки тому +1

      ooooooooh. I dream for a 5K with better buttons.

    • @cupcakeobsession
      @cupcakeobsession 2 роки тому

      @@SuperReviewi need one with a Boba 4ut or Lavender Mechanical switches :D ☺️

  • @michaelcorcoran8768
    @michaelcorcoran8768 3 роки тому

    I tried the az09. It's like a poor man's version of the utws3 fiios without ldac. It's made by KZ for $23

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview  3 роки тому

      Good enough?

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 2 роки тому +1

      @@SuperReview it works well given its limitations (aac, no apt-x). But it does enable me to use wired in ear monitors as true Wireless. Its kinda neat.
      Might be worth experimenting with this form factor before investing in a more expensive version of it

  • @tankweechiew5034
    @tankweechiew5034 2 роки тому

    l bought it the next day and it broke down