Props to Larry, he’s pushing 90 there, probably knew he only had a limited number of those types of phone calls left with his son. Life is short. Family comes first.
Yeah I dont think that was a conscious diss. My dad is in his 60s and he answers his cell phone immediately no matter what he is doing, who he is talking to, who is calling. He always picks up a d does the short talk and then says "hey I'm doing xyz can I call you back?" I never answer my phone when it rings. I'll call them back when my anxiety clears from the phone ringing, so I dont personally get it. But old people I think dont understand cell phones. They're still thinking oh I better see who this is. What if its important and they cant leave a voicemail lol.
Cringe. Weinstein finally felt like he was in the cool kids club and wanted to name it lmao. Can’t stand that dude almost as much as I can’t stand Neil Degrasse.
Def props to Larry for taking that call with his son. My dad passed just two weeks ago and we’d talk everyday on the phone just to say what’s up and chit chat for a few, best part of my days
That Larry King moment is how we all need to live our lives. In that moment he knew with all his being that he would soon be dead, and it blessed him with ultimate perspective. In that moment he couldn't care less for a stupid show or how he was 'meant to behave'... he knew what was important and he embraced it fully. Important lesson. We can all do the same right now.
@@marcosrecio4062 I don’t think Richard is saying he should stop his life and sit in a dark room waiting for his son to call. He’s just saying that if it comes down to talking to his son, who Larry doesn’t know how much time he has left to talk to, or doing a UA-cam show, he’s figured out it’s more important to use that time to talk to his son. Maybe Larry didn’t have that same perspective 30 or 40 years ago. Maybe he missed a lot of great moments with his older children because he was so focused on his career. That’s the kind of perspective most people would have at 90 and not so much at 50.
After a while of watching him I realised he was just repeating himself and had nothing interesting to add to a discussion. Plus I started to find his voice quite droning and boring. Although others are correct as soon as they as a group referred themselves as the IDB then it was over. Sam Harris quickly trying to row back every discussion he has had with them because he lacks a spine and thought hanging out with them too much would effect his income. Jordan spending far too much time on twitter/x these days rather doing the work that actually made him famous. Bret and Eric are barely interesting enough to bother to keep track of what they do which shows how much it's fallen apart.
"Dude, you're a complete degenerate for doing the stuff you're doing." "Hey, at least you can tell me that. At least we can talk about this. You know, I understand your concerns." I laughed for like a straight minute XD
Candace Owens, Rubin, Shapiro etc are horrendous grifters without a drop of shame or substance. They don't even realise that the far right despises them almost as much as the left does
Joe basically said to his face that he knows he's a grifter with his story about hollywood. joe's been in the industry long enough to notice a grifter or a yesman.
Lol Joe is as big a fool as anyone. Dave Rubin is just extremely stupid. You literally have to have like an 85 IQ or lower to believe Rubin was ever an intellectual.
Joe has experience on both sides, but he's at his worst when he unknowingly props up quacks and insane celebrities based on his own curiosity over his better judgement
It’s crazy because Twitter/social media trolls are undefeated against these older brainy guys because they go on social media and think it’s real when the goal of majority of social media is to get a laugh or to get a rise out of someone lol smh
It's why people like Jordan Peterson will eventually be committed to a mental institution. They did not grow up with social media, so for them cyberbullying is the same as burning books or something.
Had a co-worker years ago that was an extremely devout Christian that very much thought homosexuality was a mortal sin. He was very conservative. He was also married to a man. I had many conversations with him but never could quite wrap my head around exactly how he rationalized everything
Sort of like how silly it is to be a black conservative. By Candace Owens own right wing rhetoric and logic, she is a DEI diversity hire for the right, who is inherently less qualified than any white man doing the same thing, because of her sex and gender. Very much uncle tom energy from people like her and Herschel Walker
@@tpolutts3309 uh, so being a pedo isnt a sin? what you guys talking about. of course your identity can be sinful. murderers, rapists, theifs, ect. the Bible and Jesus Christ is clear either way, sex out outside of marriage and homosexuality is a sin and will never be ok or acceptable
@@craigstevens9351 Pedo isn't an identity. Gtfo with that. Bible says plenty of contradictory nonsense. Believe what you want. I just find it baffling that some gay people think God made them gay yet will send them to hell for it. Seems masochistic.
Dave Rubin isn’t really a natural political commentator. His talents are as a host and he became popular on the right because he hosted a podcast where a lot of intellectual and conservative voices went viral. He was at the center of that online wave of conservative or anti-woke content but I think he mistook his role in that. Nobody watched the Rubin Report for Rubin’s stance on things. He, like Joe, was more of a facilitator of discussion and a platform. He did that well. I believe he thought people viewed him as commentator and I don’t think people did originally.
Exactly right. If he wanted to expand his role, he should have started interviewing a wider variety of people. Instead, he started commentating but it's just not his strong suit and it makes him look more like a schmuck.
Agreed, i watched his interview with Thomas Sowell not to hear Dave speak but to hear Mr. Sowell speak. Same exact thing with Joe, i couldn't really care less what Joe has to say
Larry’s son cannon who he was talking to on the phone was actually drafted by a Major League Baseball team and now plays football and club basketball at Santa Ana. Props to him for taking such time out of his day to hear from his kids. RIP
The dude sat in front of Ben Shapiro and just smiled as Shapiro told him that his marriage shouldn’t be legal. Edit: Ben straight up said, to Dave’s face, that Ben refuses to endorse any aspect of Dave’s marriage. It had nothing to do with government
What's funny, is Ben thinks his own marriage shouldn't be legal. He doesn't think government should be the one involved in marriage. It's a religious thing. The government shouldn't be involved in religious unions of 2 people. He's spoke on it a few times, for sure.
@@TheInterwebzMan not really. There is no legitimate reason the United States Government should be able to restrict certain people from getting married
Dave stopped using "classical liberal" and switched to "modern conservative" after he interviewed Nigel Farage on his show and Farage told him "classical liberal" is a term for debating society but not for the real world. You could see Rubin instantaneously realize Farage was right and you could also see the disappointment in his face. It was a moment of begrudging acceptance and I haven't heard him refer to himself as a classical liberal since.
"classical liberal" always was a slimey term, since it was so broad and vague. these people were never left wing or "liberal". between their social values leaning into conservative and their economic views being libertarian conservative, the only "liberal" or left wing thing about them is that they didn't hate gays as much.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Dave got the term from Larry Elder, who was on his show and told him he sounded like one. Interesting that the genesis and the end of Dave referring to himself as one emanated from different guests on his show. It's outdated now, but when initially coined "liberal" did not mean left, or even moderate left. It meant libertarian or at least a broader category of which libertarian is a subset. The term was hijacked by the left. But that's ancient history. Now it means, to whatever degree, left of center.
@@benmeltzer what? liberal wasnt fucking hijacked by the left, the "left" on the political compass became the home of liberals because the right wing throughout most of history has never represented free market forces, outside of immediate convenience. hell, in a lot of places conservative literally meant "pro-monarchy". Liberal became a catch-all-term for democrats because democrats, after the party switch, represented social, cultural and economic freedom. thats literally it. in europe, and most of the world outside of the US, liberals generally denotes center/center right politics, but thats because those countries have actual left wing parties. incidentally also why those countries tend to have stronger social security nets, infrastructure and all of the other things conservatives are quick to call "communism". and even then, liberals tend to be moderate centrists.
Your channel has become my go to when I want to find out what’s going on. The content you produce coupled with your insights separates you from similar content creators.
Dave Rubin: "There shouldn't be any building regulations." Joe Rogan: "Building regulations are important for safety." Dave Rubin: "Okay, we can have SOME regulations as a treat."
Building standards can exist without government regulations. Permits and codes only make sense 'legally" with municipalities, which have overtaken property and land all across the country. Unincorporated land is harder and harder to find, with some states no longer having any of it left.
Corporations team up with lawmakers to implement regulations that are extremely expensive or impossible to execute to corner the market or buy out business.... not to mention the minimal impact of the regulations when in place.
JBP's brain has been addled by the constant criticism from the left and the nonstop love from the right. He just needs to stick to his practice and self-help. The culture war stuff is just too much for him.
Anyone trolling Weinstein into actual anger is always hilarious. Dude is too in love with himself. “The intellectual dark web” is the cringiest shit ever lol
Some points to note: - Rubin no longer refers to himself as a “classical liberal” and now actually acknowledges himself a “conservative”. He has done for some time now. - Joe Rogan has referred to Dave Rubin as a “wounded antelope” - Rubin is most definitely a grifter and is at the mercy of the likes of Prager, Glenn Beck and is bankrolled handsomely by Charlie Koch - which is why he will never push back on the right. You said it yourself, he doesn’t want to bite the hand that feeds him. - The IDW is now a dated term. People are aware of its cringe factor. Sam Harris has said he wishes to “hand in his imaginary membership card” and disassociate himself from this. - Speaking of Harris, he too, has also lost all respect for Rubin and is fully aware of him being a grifter.
Isn't sam harris a liberal? Like I don't understand why the IDW was seen as a conservative group but had 1 liberal who has debated with many conservatives.
@@Tortilla.Reform Sam Harris is still a conservative for the rest of the world, America doesn’t have a liberal-left party. Just centrists at best. Also, Sam drooling over Israel and being pro American meddling, looses all his “progressive liberal swag” he’s just good at debunking radical Islam, that’s about it 😂
man that annoyed me. I've worked in trades (cabinet making/building and mechanics). DO NOT underestimate how much a tradesman will cut corners! some people are absolutely shocking no respect or anything. Dave Rubin has no idea wtf he was talking about there
The more I learn about these internet personalities , I am reminded of a quote from Tree Beard in LOTR: "Side? I am on nobody's side. Because no one is on my side, little orc."
His time as a liberal and his switch was probably traumatizing. As a liberal you have to make sure you believe exactly the same thing and any different opinion can end your career. That's not how conservatism works, that's why conservatives speak without fear. He's really concerned with what people think about him, and because he's only been a conservative for so long, his ideas aren't built out yet.
@@TenekaiIt sounds like you're just sniffing your farts here. Research shows that once issues become politicized, people doubt scientists if they contradict their own side. Meaning a lack of critical thinking is just universally human. We're all irrational, and thinking your side isn't is just a classic blind spot we all have.
The IDW thing was goofy af, jumped the shark but Peterson straight saved my life before that. I was addicted to heroin and didnt understand why or what responsibility was, basically was just fucked up. Never was big on Dave, but the other guys got thrown into like super scrutinizing fame, Jordan got hooked on anxiety meds while his wife was on her death bed, just all kinds of craziness. (Sober 5+ years now btw, and it wasnt just JBP talking that helped obv lol)
Woah congrats 👏 5ys is freaking amazing 🤩 I've got 9ys myself... I loved Peterson back then he was very inspirational and still is when he's not acting crazy on Twitter lol But overall I'm just so happy to see a fellow in sobriety ❤🫶❤️ Keep moving forward 😄💜🤗
The IDW tag was mostly Eric being a crazy person, that's why he's great. It's only goofy if you think it was meant to be something permanent or a final solution to all the ills of modernity. It was the perfect description for the time and place. It was extremely useful. It's too bad they didn't manage to drag Dave Ramsey into it, because he would have fit right in and there would be a lot less broke bros out there.
Shout out the king himself Larry for taking that call & not rushing it a bit. Being his age & how precious life really is. He took his time. I back that up 🫡
@@funnyberries4017 Neil is a pretentious and obnoxious narcissist who thinks of himself as some combination of carl sagan and yoda. Meanwhile his philosophy is shallow as a rain puddle and amounts to "uncritically accept any authority". He's insufferable to listen do. Guy probably jars his farts to huff later. "I dont believe in any religion, but im not atheist" is the type of stupidity i expect from dave rubin. If you dont believe in theism, you ARE atheist neil. The word literally means 'not theist"
@@funnyberries4017 he's not exactly always honest, he'll often say something that he has no clue about with absolute confidence even if he's totally wrong. Maybe that's honest, maybe he's trying to obfuscate the truth. It's up to you to decide that.
15:46 Coming from a third world country, Joe is absolutely right. Dave is a politician, not an engineer. There was a garment factory collapse and hundreds of workers died in my country Bangladesh because of lack of regulation, negligence and corporate greed. If you watch any engineering failure videos on UA-cam, the engineers will stress the fact how important it is to abide by the building codes.
I do get what Dave was trying to get at tho. Like, I think it’s fucking ridiculous that if I’m just getting a new septic tank installed that the contractor has to fork out $750 on my behalf for a permit to do so-𝓦𝓱𝔂?!! What business is it of the government if I want to do some home renovations-𝓦𝑻𝑭?! Ok🤗I get it. I know all about some shitty buildings like South Korea’s Sampoong mall collapse or that “hotel” fire that killed several elementary school children on an overnight or that building collapse during a wedding in Israel. But still, there has to be a happy medium in between somewhere where the government isn’t r@ping you just for $$$$$ is all I’m saying.
@@TehBAiNzOr ROFL yea, paper trails. That's why they charge $750... for the paper. You don't need a piece of paper to hold the contractor accountable. It's a money making scheme for the city/county.
@@robinmcinarnay7827Because your faulty home renovations can have lasting impacts on the environment, property value of your land or surrounding lands, etc. and it behooves the government to ensure everyone is taking proper precautions to install and maintain infrastructure. You can redo the interior of your house all you want with no permit, but as soon as you’re dealing with structural renovations, or digging for electrical or plumbing work, it is prudent for safety and above-board work (not hiring Joe Schmo and his 6 migrant workers) to get the job done safely, and up to code.
The 'intellectual dark web' was such a victim narrative. It's all about being unfairly ostracized. They didn't come off as underdogs, but self-proclaimed fallen angels, which is grandiose.
Self - pitying narcissists and grifters, why has the right wing become so pathetic and motivated by grievance and whining?? They're supposed to love authoritarian 'strongmen' 😂
I don’t know. When corporate news sites lie about you outright I’d call that an underdog. But mainstream news seems to be what most people still consume and believe I guess.
@@abelgonzales3695 It's just how it came off. They're all still fully employed, well educated, best sellers, with dozens of rich friends and/or family. They're unfairly persecuted, but that doesn't make them weak targets. They went from thriving to still thriving. The average joe has nothing to pity about them.
@@Garblegox yes I get that, but I would root for them way more than the mainstream news. I even prefer to watch my political rivals who have no corporate ties than my own side of politics that are corporate backed. Mainstream news is slowly dying, and that may be a good thing. Maybe they’ll wise up and start giving us more partisan content. But I seriously doubt it.
Well pretty easy to see why they all have that pathetic academic ego where there smart, but actually have no fcking clue about anything outside of a certain field.
They did not all give themselves that name. One person joking did, and now others mistook it as an actual thing. So, nobody did this with any type or sincerity..
Pulled this from Wikipedia, and it sounds accurate... The intellectual dark web (IDW) is a term used to describe some commentators who oppose identity politics, political correctness, and cancel culture in higher education and the news media within Western countries.
I was just watching your crowder vid and pumped to see it was 16 minutes long. It was awesome, and pretty eye opening. I head to your channel to see if I missed any other vids and see you uploaded this while I was watching your other one. Fuckin right, life is good.
Tbh I genuinely have a good bit of respect for Joe Rogan. Especially when seeing him talk to all these weirdos and refusing to buy into all their self-indulging bs… but rather perfectly willing to call them out about it.
Unfortunately that's not the norm for Joe, he has nodded and agreed to a lot of stupid shit haha Moments like this make me root for him though, he's gotten a bit better at it
@@drewpeacock9087 I think when you talk for thousands of hours to random people you just don’t have the energy to argue with everyone you disagree with. You KNOW he’s zoning out and thinking about moose and his chickens at home and ice baths 78% of the time.
@@drewpeacock9087 I think you got that backwards. He used to sometimes push back except on people like Alex Jones and Shabibo and other weirdos (which be rightfully got criticized for). Then COVID happened and he went full brain worms.
I wouldn't really call Rogan a grifter. He doesn't seem to have a firm ideological stance on _anything._ He flip flops on EVERY topic, depending on the guest.
Jordan Peterson really helped me gain direction in my life. I was alienated from my children, and facing my responsibility has built a beautiful life for my family.
Dave Rubin isn’t anything other than a person taking advantage of a particular group of people who want to be told “You’re right! And everyone else is wrong. “.
I saw this simp’s interview w/JRE and it was exactly what you said. One big run for cover. It’s like Dave had finally gotten on Joes show and he actually thought he knew who Joe was. He figured Joe was just some “fuck the government in every form it takes” type of guy. And that’s who he tried to play to. Of course it didn’t work out for him b/c Joes BS meter and as less clouded by the copious amounts of weed and alcohol they are otherwise regularly subjected to.
What I dislike so much is the desperate yes man he is. He doesnt have any idea outside what he thinks the other person want to hear and cowers against the minimal pushback. The texbook definition of beta male.
I mean… no matter what side you fall on (since in America you can now only be one or the other apparently) both sides are like that. Both refuse to give even an inch and everything the other side does is wrong and everything they do is right. And I doubt you’re any different, you probably think whatever “those people” is crazy and wrong and you’re not.
@@bradenharris8718 You’re assuming a lot about this guy’s beliefs. He’s just making the obvious observation that Dave Rubin is appealing to the right for money. I think that’s something left and right wingers can agree on.
Yeah, it's hysterical how Rogan and his fans pretend that Rogan doesn't like to be part of a group but yet he had a comedy group full of LA hacks and he constantly talks about how comedians need to stick together. Rogan has no spine. He's a flip flopper that never had a father.
This is the best and most well-structured critique of Dave Rubin I've ever seen. Every point you made flowed very naturally into the next, and at no point did you come across as rude or dismissive. Other people who criticize Rubin, myself included, usually just can't take the guy seriously enough to put effort into a critique, so I really appreciate your work here.
Lol guy is just off the wall with what he's talking about. Nobody has a direct issue with him being gay. That's just so fake. This guy doesn't do his research he just makes up stuff.
The regulations only matter if A: there are enough regulators to enforce the code B: the fine for harming people is greater than the profit earned. Cars makers sometimes won't recall cars because the wrongful death lawsuits cost less than a recall. Same with pharmaceutical companies. That is assuming the family of the person harmed has the money to hire an attorney and sue.
Big lolz on this one. I was upper management at a large European car manufacturer, and we had - literally - 32 people burn to death because of an electric faults in one of our vehicles... and, dude, we spent a whole fucking weekend calculating which would cost us more money. I'll give you a clue to the answer... That meeting was after 7 deaths lmao. In the end we got fined 460 million. But hey ho. You win some, you lose some.
Guy reminds of the guy from American Pyscho, there's nobody home. My favorite moment was when he went away for the weekend and tried to turn it into a big announcement that he now believes in god. Like yeah all it takes is going on a weekend trip and then you decide to come out as christian, it's so bizarre.
Dave Rubin did this one interview with PBD that was kinda weird and always stuck with me. He brought up an example while trying to explain why he thinks Donald Trump is a genuinely nice guy, where he was at a dinner and met Trump, then introduced him to his husband. To which Trump apparently reacted by going "Whoah? You're GAY? That's incredible! Hey Melania check it out, these guy's are GAY! Can ya believe it? Isn't that just wonderful?" and made a big performance that really sounded like Trump was just taking the piss and making fun of the guy. Yet Rubin thought it was this amazing proof of Trump's kind nature or something lmao
He doesn't come off as your typical gay guy. It shocked me when I found out he was gay too. Don just wanted to be real with him and still let him know he accepts him by introducing him to his wife. Stop looking for outrage where there is none.
Construction safety regulations are great of course, but are we sure that is what Rubin was saying to get rid of and not the insane building regulations that property owners are subject to, like not being able to put an addition on your home or catching rain water or having a garden or any number of the bullshit regulations there are?
@@jacobgagnon1820 but China runs a socialist economy with absurd fake incentives set by the government prefectures, this is completely at odds with the unregulated free market concept that Dave Rubin is proposing.. even if he's being too idealistic to be practical. No doubt Rubin is a libertarian Randian at heart.
It's such a weird move to ask someone to make a social commitment during a recorded show, especially one that benefits only you. I think that's one of the other off-putting mistakes Dave is making. It comes off as desperate, and it kind of shows how he is viewing the conversation as a career move. Sure, it often is, but Joe especially doesn't want to feel like a tool for other people's careers.
Joe was creeped out by this from the jump but got roped in by peer pressure and pressure from his audience. Joe seems over the culture war. It's not 2017 anymore.
I don’t think he’s over it, I think he doesn’t wanna get pulled in more… Trump would be on otherwise. We know why he won’t have trump on and if he was over the war, having Trump on with not matter.
@@RickyWatter32 what? The mental gymnastics you had to pull to make that make sense were crazy. Having trump on would absolutely further entrench him in it. He seems to be distancing himself from all culture warriors. He clearly wants to go back to focusing on comedy.
That building argument is so bad. They cut corners even with regulation, so lets get rid of any and all ways to hold builders liable for it. Makes sense. Saying the free market will regulate safety itself is such a bad faith argument, and shows this guy has never been on an active construction zone.
Sam Harris also always hated the "Intellectual Dark Web" title lmao. It's funny how like half the people in it either didn't belong or wanted nothing to do with the others.
@@shadow_realm47 What's so ironic about that? That is the point. It is to get people with opposing point of view to sit down together and talk about world events. Not to sit in a echo chamber congratulating each other and patting themselves on the back. If you didn't get that just stop making comments about this subject.
@@havu2236Echo chamber and back pats describes everyone in that circle besides Harris. Such free thinkers that they all came to the exact same populist positions on the economy, virology, foreign affairs, etc.
I met Brett Weinstein (Eric's brother) at a grocery store in Portland Oregon. Had a nice albeit short chat with him. Seems like someone who would have been fun to have as a professor before everything got stupid for him and his wife at Evergreen. Nice firm handshake too.
They’re both total weirdos but they definitely have some interesting things to say. I’d like to meet them both and say hi and thanks for contributing to open dialogue. It’s important to acknowledge that today.
My brain is still in recovery mode from all of Dave Rubin's high level ideas. And his voice certainly doesn't make me want to shove an ice pick in my ears.
What a sad existence asking a “close friend” if they’d come to your anniversary party and being told they’d have to think about it bc they think your very existence is a sin lmao
Bro has no true friends, I'd rather be alone than be friends with someone who thinks my existence is wrong. Dave is just an opportunist for whatever gets his name out there more, god the desperation in him begging Joe to be on his show was just pathetic, serious nice guy I'll get you to be on my show by fake being your super enthusiastic friend. You can just tell Joe's skin is crawling having to fake niceness.
@@jessed6151except I watched Dave make his slow, more than year long transition from left to classical liberal in real time every week as at happened from 2015 to 2016, just 3 or 4 years after I had made the same transition myself in 2011. It was fascinating watching someone go through most of the same struggles and internal arguments that I had, making the same counter arguments to some of his early guests as I had thought in my head. You can't fake that.
If that were the case he wouldn't do half of the pods he does. Even Joe knows Ruben is a grifter and about as sharp as a spoon when it comes to having a halfway logical discussion.
@bccsivxx-xxivvii but I think it's the approach that makes the decision that the guests gets to come shill. Like are people looking at him as the QVC channel to peddle out whatever. Or is it someone to have a somewhat genuine or intriguing conversation and then have their shilling. Like whenever guests bring "gift bags" and unload it as soon as the camera turns on. It's a game and people like Dave play sloppy so don't get asked to play again
Larry King answering his phone call about a baseball game has nothing to do with any interviewer... I can only hope that a phone call about my family in that old age would be as important as it is right then...
As soon as Rubin said "Builder's want to make things that are good.", I knew he was clueless. Builder's, like everyone else in our society, all they want is the MONEY. They do not care about quality, safety, environment, or anything else but maximizing PROFITS.
Hmmm. My husband is a tradie. He lays flooring, big areas, big money. Whilst the money is fantastic, and is the reason he gets up at 6am, he also does care about the quality of his work. I think you must have had some horrible experiences with tradesmen/people, and it has jaded you. Do you work? Do you care about the quality of your work? If you don’t, have you had complaints?
@@pommiebears I am a contractor. He and I are the minority and I can tell you he makes less money for caring about those things than the other who cut all the corners they can do.
@@simon_does yeah. I do know some cut corners. You don’t? I love that you don’t. My husband doesn’t. If anything, he tries so hard to leave our customers with a great experience. He was up in someone’s attic the other day, getting her something from it. She was elderly and he wanted to help. Some customers are crazy though lol. No matter what you do, can’t please everyone.
Man, you totally voiced the feelings that made me dislike Dave Rubin. I viewed him as someone totally devoid of substance, but did not really know why. Great video!
So funny, shows how out of it duncan was too lol completely unfitting response to what joe was saying haha but they're such good friends that slight verbal misfires don't matter because they're such good friends and get each other so well
At the beginning of this video I felt kinda bad for Dave Rubin because it’s my initial reaction anytime I see someone not standing up for themselves. Hanging out with people that think your life is a sin and your family is immoral is insane. If you could only stand up for one thing in life it should be your family! If you can’t do that because of money/greed then that’s very sad. I wonder how his family feels about it? I’m glad joe cut ties though because if you aren’t authentic and no one knows if you actually believe what you’re saying, then what’s the point of listening or having a conversation?
I think he learned a lesson that day to not ask questions if you don't want the honest answer. I actually give props to Ben for sticking to his beliefs and actually giving an honest answer.
Agreed. I also don’t think he should corner his friends on whether they approve of his life. I don’t agree with surrogacy as an industry. However, if my friend used a surrogate I would celebrate that baby and family like any other. The personal does not have to be political. I would hope my friend would respect my beliefs enough to not push me to debate their family, and I would respect my friendship and love my friend enough to not bring up my opinion of their choices.
I'm a devout Christian in Australia and I have mates who are very anti-religion; they don't think my life is a sin, they think I'm living in a fairy land. That said, everything else we get along with each other great. I also have Muslim friends, and we think each other are wrong, and living in sin, yet we are mates. Y I think this is where neo-liberal "tolerance" is so insular. The rest of the world...and the rest of history...have lived side by side with people who disagree with each other, and they don't "tolerate", they show kindness. Tolerance is apathetic, and ironically, neo-liberal toleration is more intolerant than most religions or cultures. Modern toleration is great with people being sooooo different on the outside, but not different in their thinking.
@@bellingdog well I’m an atheist who’s mom is Jehovah’s Witness. You don’t get much more extreme than her views. But I don’t think that’s comparable in any way to being gay and being around ppl who think you’re an abomination. In fact, this is the only time in my life I’ve ever heard anyone compare atheists and religious ppl to that of gay ppl and religious ppl. No one even knows my religious beliefs anyway and most probably never will. But if you are gay and married to a man I think it’s obvious what sexuality you are lol and my mom would have a problem with me if I was gay. I don’t think she’d even speak to me. But with Being an atheist, she still thinks there’s hope I can be “saved”. That’s another big difference. The liberal stuff you’re getting on with I’m not sure where that came from as I didn’t say I was a liberal. But I also hang out with ppl with all different beliefs. Do you think ppl meet someone and Instantly ask their political party? You become friends and maybe down the road learn that. So I’m sure everyone hangs out with ppl of different politics and religions. But if you think being gay is a sin, more times than not you will not associate with gay ppl.
I HATE when people use the "interesting academic concept" to argue (weakly) a point that they can't defend and fear pushback on. It's exactly what Dave does there. He says he thinks building regulations are stupid, Joe makes valud points about why they're necessary and immediately he jumps to "I don't think regulations are bad, I just think it's an interesting academic discussion". It's like people playing "Devil's Advocate" because they're too much of coward to actually stand behind what they think/say/believe.
How anybody can take Dave Rubin seriously is beyond me. The man is just an opportunist who stands for nothing except for saying what he thinks people want too hear too make as much money as he can grifting his audience.
I felt really bad for Dave when Shapiro said he wouldn't go to his wedding. He seemed pretty hurt and Dave would've had the right to walk away from a "freind" like that. You shouldn't let people treart you like dirt.
It’s his own fault for aligning himself with people for financial gain that do not share his values. Imagine in 2023 telling someone their relationship is a sin and therefore cannot be celebrated...that’s a friendship killer in my opinion.
I mean, how would you feel if a friend left his wife and invited you to their marriage with a 19 year old. I disagree with Ben's position obviously but I do understand it from his moral framework of the world.
@@MistaFahrenheit that’s because Jewish theology has nothing to do with someone else’s rights to spend their life with who they choose. Stay in your lane.
I was beginning to feel bad for him since he’s always getting dogged by his “friends” for being gay, but then you hit the nail on the head: he lets it happen and never stands up for himself. He chose money over defending himself. Hard to feel bad for that
Rubin embraced the "intellectual dark web" thing more than anyone. He's a collectivist at heart. Same reason he'd rather work for The Blaze than go it alone.
Never knew Dave but he seems like a kind soul from what i can see. You got to earn respect but you also got to demand it, else people walk over you. unfortunately
@@flameguy3416 what does that have to do with anything? The surrogate was for the baby for a gay couple? Lol mom isn’t in the picture past birthing it and payment
Yea, but Rogan has since adopted the "moving of the goalpost" when even referring to himself. He just thought it was bullshit til he saw it first hand. Rogan's always said he's left leaning while still having some right leaning values (2nd amendment, hunting, etc) and said now that progressives have shifted the left even farther left, it now makes him look like, and subsequently be called a right winger. He's even used the term "traditional liberal," which is close enough to "classic."
Dave reaching for his soda but then realizing he needs what I can only imagine is scotch… Says what he was really feeling during the Larry moment haha.
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Props to Larry, he’s pushing 90 there, probably knew he only had a limited number of those types of phone calls left with his son. Life is short. Family comes first.
No YOU come first. Family can go jump. Well mine anyway lol.
Yeah I dont think that was a conscious diss. My dad is in his 60s and he answers his cell phone immediately no matter what he is doing, who he is talking to, who is calling. He always picks up a d does the short talk and then says "hey I'm doing xyz can I call you back?" I never answer my phone when it rings. I'll call them back when my anxiety clears from the phone ringing, so I dont personally get it. But old people I think dont understand cell phones. They're still thinking oh I better see who this is. What if its important and they cant leave a voicemail lol.
Larry king is dead..I am glad he took the phone call
@@codirennke1109 I think you're the one who doesn't seem to understand phone calls....
@@codirennke1109 Anxiety? From a ringing phone? That may very well be the most gen z thing I’ve ever heard.
“Intellectual dark web” is the single most chronically online phrase I’ve ever heard in my life
This. I remember when I first heard it and I was like oh this is going to end badly.
Cringe. Weinstein finally felt like he was in the cool kids club and wanted to name it lmao. Can’t stand that dude almost as much as I can’t stand Neil Degrasse.
@@STSGuitar16 well, to his credit, he has since disappeared (as far as I know)
what does chronically online mean?
@@TheMotiveDJ Always online always on the internet looking at social media etc
Def props to Larry for taking that call with his son. My dad passed just two weeks ago and we’d talk everyday on the phone just to say what’s up and chit chat for a few, best part of my days
Right he was probably like “this shity interview could kill me, I better chat with my son”
Damn man, same now we just talk in my dreams always something awesome to forward to in my dreams
If i dream i never remember them. It'd be emotional to see my dad or friends in dreams@USALegendary_E5
Sorry about your dad. it's great you had a good and close one, though!
sorry for your loss man
That Larry King moment is how we all need to live our lives. In that moment he knew with all his being that he would soon be dead, and it blessed him with ultimate perspective. In that moment he couldn't care less for a stupid show or how he was 'meant to behave'... he knew what was important and he embraced it fully. Important lesson. We can all do the same right now.
Act like a senile old man about to croak? No thanks Ill pass.
he could have just not go
@@marcosrecio4062 its a 3 min diversion for a dumb 3 hour podcast who cares
@@marcosrecio4062 I don’t think Richard is saying he should stop his life and sit in a dark room waiting for his son to call. He’s just saying that if it comes down to talking to his son, who Larry doesn’t know how much time he has left to talk to, or doing a UA-cam show, he’s figured out it’s more important to use that time to talk to his son. Maybe Larry didn’t have that same perspective 30 or 40 years ago. Maybe he missed a lot of great moments with his older children because he was so focused on his career. That’s the kind of perspective most people would have at 90 and not so much at 50.
I would get fired.
My earliest memory of Dave Rubin is that he agreed with everyone, and disagreed with no one but himself if he got some push back. No spine.
After a while of watching him I realised he was just repeating himself and had nothing interesting to add to a discussion. Plus I started to find his voice quite droning and boring. Although others are correct as soon as they as a group referred themselves as the IDB then it was over. Sam Harris quickly trying to row back every discussion he has had with them because he lacks a spine and thought hanging out with them too much would effect his income. Jordan spending far too much time on twitter/x these days rather doing the work that actually made him famous. Bret and Eric are barely interesting enough to bother to keep track of what they do which shows how much it's fallen apart.
@@thebladesman5031agree on all counts. Joe and Ben are definitely the only ones of the group I’m still really interested in hearing.
I agreeeeee with that
I really didn't know pathetic it was
he is a zionist shill
"Dude, you're a complete degenerate for doing the stuff you're doing."
"Hey, at least you can tell me that. At least we can talk about this. You know, I understand your concerns."
I laughed for like a straight minute XD
Ben Shapiro's reaction is nothing compared to Tommy Sotomayor finding out Rubin was gay.
he is a degenerate he’s indulging in the definition of degenerate behavior.
Hearing 'The intellectual dark web' makes me want to vomit into my eyes
Holy fuck… is that right
Oof, that sounds like a mighty unpleasant experience
Candace Owens, Rubin, Shapiro etc are horrendous grifters without a drop of shame or substance. They don't even realise that the far right despises them almost as much as the left does
Lol the phrase doesn't make sense. Eric Weinstein is out of control!
It’s a cringe coma.
Joe basically said to his face that he knows he's a grifter with his story about hollywood. joe's been in the industry long enough to notice a grifter or a yesman.
This aged well
Lol Joe is as big a fool as anyone.
Dave Rubin is just extremely stupid. You literally have to have like an 85 IQ or lower to believe Rubin was ever an intellectual.
@@derika3624very well indeed.
but he cant notice Bily Carson lol
Joe has experience on both sides, but he's at his worst when he unknowingly props up quacks and insane celebrities based on his own curiosity over his better judgement
Man I forgot about Dave Rubin for I think a year until right now
Who?
@@michael5654 Mike Jones😁🙏
It’s crazy because Twitter/social media trolls are undefeated against these older brainy guys because they go on social media and think it’s real when the goal of majority of social media is to get a laugh or to get a rise out of someone lol smh
I agree but the problem is, these "trolls" seem to have a huge amount of control over public discourse.
@@Skrenja lol I feel u
Redbars photoshop troll of Dane Cook is legendary. Highly recommend you check it out!
@@cosmoseinfeld1 omw
It's why people like Jordan Peterson will eventually be committed to a mental institution. They did not grow up with social media, so for them cyberbullying is the same as burning books or something.
I'm a conservative but I cannot understand dealing with people who think your identity is sinful, and by no means am I a big pro-gay person.
Had a co-worker years ago that was an extremely devout Christian that very much thought homosexuality was a mortal sin.
He was very conservative.
He was also married to a man. I had many conversations with him but never could quite wrap my head around exactly how he rationalized everything
Sort of like how silly it is to be a black conservative. By Candace Owens own right wing rhetoric and logic, she is a DEI diversity hire for the right, who is inherently less qualified than any white man doing the same thing, because of her sex and gender. Very much uncle tom energy from people like her and Herschel Walker
@@tpolutts3309 uh, so being a pedo isnt a sin? what you guys talking about. of course your identity can be sinful. murderers, rapists, theifs, ect. the Bible and Jesus Christ is clear either way, sex out outside of marriage and homosexuality is a sin and will never be ok or acceptable
@@craigstevens9351
Pedo isn't an identity. Gtfo with that.
Bible says plenty of contradictory nonsense. Believe what you want. I just find it baffling that some gay people think God made them gay yet will send them to hell for it. Seems masochistic.
@@craigstevens9351na ur dum
Larry King taking the call on air like that sums up what people think about Rubin.
Its still kind of a shithead thing to do even if you dont like that Rubin guy
Thats why you don’t want to have live shows:))
I watch it once a year.
Man Larry king is soo old he prob didn’t realize it was live lol
@@Baker19911 He did live shows all the time. He just didnt respect Rubin.
Dave Rubin isn’t really a natural political commentator.
His talents are as a host and he became popular on the right because he hosted a podcast where a lot of intellectual and conservative voices went viral.
He was at the center of that online wave of conservative or anti-woke content but I think he mistook his role in that. Nobody watched the Rubin Report for Rubin’s stance on things. He, like Joe, was more of a facilitator of discussion and a platform. He did that well. I believe he thought people viewed him as commentator and I don’t think people did originally.
Good comment
Exactly right. If he wanted to expand his role, he should have started interviewing a wider variety of people. Instead, he started commentating but it's just not his strong suit and it makes him look more like a schmuck.
Agreed, i watched his interview with Thomas Sowell not to hear Dave speak but to hear Mr. Sowell speak. Same exact thing with Joe, i couldn't really care less what Joe has to say
I agree but we can’t compare him to Joe because people actually do care about how Joe thinks about things.
It was the format. Dave himself is a himbo
Larry’s son cannon who he was talking to on the phone was actually drafted by a Major League Baseball team and now plays football and club basketball at Santa Ana. Props to him for taking such time out of his day to hear from his kids. RIP
The larry king thing was actually heartwarming. Larry loves his son. If i were dave i would have commended him for taking the time to talk to his boy.
That's a damn good point and i never thought of it that way. Respect.
Serious question cause I don't know. Is his son slow, or mentally challenged? How old is he?
@@donaldlines7471 Why? You come off as kind of a weirdo asking that.
@@GalactusOG well I'm rubber and you're glue whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. Didn't expect that much fire coming back at ya huh?
@@donaldlines7471 Oh snap! Good one bro.
The dude sat in front of Ben Shapiro and just smiled as Shapiro told him that his marriage shouldn’t be legal.
Edit: Ben straight up said, to Dave’s face, that Ben refuses to endorse any aspect of Dave’s marriage. It had nothing to do with government
Shapiro is right
@@TheInterwebzMan why do you care?
@@TheInterwebzMan nah
What's funny, is Ben thinks his own marriage shouldn't be legal. He doesn't think government should be the one involved in marriage. It's a religious thing. The government shouldn't be involved in religious unions of 2 people. He's spoke on it a few times, for sure.
@@TheInterwebzMan not really. There is no legitimate reason the United States Government should be able to restrict certain people from getting married
That Larry king interview had my side hurting from laughter. 😂😂
Pretty hilarious
Holy fuck, just amazing! King is a legend
You can tell Dave is furious but is too scared to say anything
How the fuck did Dave not edit that phone call out of the video? He probably is the dumbest man in media.
@@ardvarksimmons seems like he was just being respectful.
Dave stopped using "classical liberal" and switched to "modern conservative" after he interviewed Nigel Farage on his show and Farage told him "classical liberal" is a term for debating society but not for the real world. You could see Rubin instantaneously realize Farage was right and you could also see the disappointment in his face. It was a moment of begrudging acceptance and I haven't heard him refer to himself as a classical liberal since.
"classical liberal" always was a slimey term, since it was so broad and vague. these people were never left wing or "liberal". between their social values leaning into conservative and their economic views being libertarian conservative, the only "liberal" or left wing thing about them is that they didn't hate gays as much.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Dave got the term from Larry Elder, who was on his show and told him he sounded like one. Interesting that the genesis and the end of Dave referring to himself as one emanated from different guests on his show.
It's outdated now, but when initially coined "liberal" did not mean left, or even moderate left. It meant libertarian or at least a broader category of which libertarian is a subset. The term was hijacked by the left. But that's ancient history. Now it means, to whatever degree, left of center.
@@benmeltzer
what? liberal wasnt fucking hijacked by the left, the "left" on the political compass became the home of liberals because the right wing throughout most of history has never represented free market forces, outside of immediate convenience. hell, in a lot of places conservative literally meant "pro-monarchy".
Liberal became a catch-all-term for democrats because democrats, after the party switch, represented social, cultural and economic freedom. thats literally it.
in europe, and most of the world outside of the US, liberals generally denotes center/center right politics, but thats because those countries have actual left wing parties. incidentally also why those countries tend to have stronger social security nets, infrastructure and all of the other things conservatives are quick to call "communism".
and even then, liberals tend to be moderate centrists.
Interesting, I didn’t know about that
Well in the real world in england there are liberals who are precisely profree market and socially liberals
Your channel has become my go to when I want to find out what’s going on.
The content you produce coupled with your insights separates you from similar content creators.
Hahaha WOW thats just sad, insight? This kid?
@@Cander617 whats your problem dude. People appreciate that his vids are straight to the point, no bs.
@@Cander617 envy is not a good look on anyone. I’d like to see you try
@Cander 617 ,
Didn't you just refer to Jordan Peterson (a mortal human being) as our "better"?
you could say this is the new informational dark web, yknow, no bad could come from taking all the info from the same source
Dave talking about construction like someone who has never done a minute of physical labor in his life
because he hasnt lol
Because if he had he'd known construction guys don't give a fuck about the quality and safety of the stuff they are building?
“I’m just having a conversation” is code for I am too much of a coward to stand by my observably stupid convictions.
‘I’m just asking questions’ is that statements close gutless brother.
Dave Rubin: "There shouldn't be any building regulations."
Joe Rogan: "Building regulations are important for safety."
Dave Rubin: "Okay, we can have SOME regulations as a treat."
Building regulations are why nothing can be built in California.
When he said that I realized how much of an idiot he is.
Building standards can exist without government regulations. Permits and codes only make sense 'legally" with municipalities, which have overtaken property and land all across the country. Unincorporated land is harder and harder to find, with some states no longer having any of it left.
Lol, yea, he was really sweating
Corporations team up with lawmakers to implement regulations that are extremely expensive or impossible to execute to corner the market or buy out business.... not to mention the minimal impact of the regulations when in place.
JBP's brain has been addled by the constant criticism from the left and the nonstop love from the right.
He just needs to stick to his practice and self-help. The culture war stuff is just too much for him.
Love from the right?
I'm guessing the systematic elimination of the right has confused people. His fans are centrists at the most.
The drugs sure didn't help the self help shtick either.
You've got to admit he's right about the new trans movement.
The entire IDbagW are grifters going through a weird mid-life social media crisis
The culture war was what drove his success. He won't because he truly believes that nonsense on a philosophical level.
It's nice to see George Costanza staying relevant after Seinfeld.
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Right? George would be one of these guys aka commentary tuber if the internet was around back then lol
@@JohnMichael-h1rGeorge contanza would get cancelled sadly
I love him right there 😊
What if George Costanza actually created a YT-channel, not as Jason Alexander but as George in the real world. 🤯
Omg that Larry King sh!t was hilarious 😅
Larry was the boss. He had such a youthful personality and was such a great conversationalist and overall intelligent being.
Shit
worst part is, had Dave kicked out Larry for being incredibly unprofessional, people would have respected him a lot more for it
Tim trolling Eric into being that mad isn't normally my line of humor
but in this instance it waas funnny af
Anyone trolling Weinstein into actual anger is always hilarious. Dude is too in love with himself. “The intellectual dark web” is the cringiest shit ever lol
Joe always gaslights people who are upset. I don’t know why, but it’s so funny
Some points to note:
- Rubin no longer refers to himself as a “classical liberal” and now actually acknowledges himself a “conservative”. He has done for some time now.
- Joe Rogan has referred to Dave Rubin as a “wounded antelope”
- Rubin is most definitely a grifter and is at the mercy of the likes of Prager, Glenn Beck and is bankrolled handsomely by Charlie Koch - which is why he will never push back on the right. You said it yourself, he doesn’t want to bite the hand that feeds him.
- The IDW is now a dated term. People are aware of its cringe factor. Sam Harris has said he wishes to “hand in his imaginary membership card” and disassociate himself from this.
- Speaking of Harris, he too, has also lost all respect for Rubin and is fully aware of him being a grifter.
Isn't sam harris a liberal? Like I don't understand why the IDW was seen as a conservative group but had 1 liberal who has debated with many conservatives.
@@doublej-123because they only had 1 liberal and everyone else was deep conservative, of course people call them a conservative group
@@Tortilla.Reform Sam Harris is still a conservative for the rest of the world, America doesn’t have a liberal-left party. Just centrists at best. Also, Sam drooling over Israel and being pro American meddling, looses all his “progressive liberal swag” he’s just good at debunking radical Islam, that’s about it 😂
@@Tortilla.Reformthey’re exactly as conservative as their tiny hat overlords allow them to be.
@@trevorrogers95 Classic maga victim narrative 😂
The Larry King phone call is one of the funniest moments I’ve ever witnessed, Dave had no idea how to handle the situation
the part where his grandson is like oh shit you are on a show ill hang up and larry king is like nah its cool keep talking is so funny
I won’t lie, I wouldn’t have a clue what to do lol
@@ardvarksimmons thats his son
What should he have done? Kick Larry off?
@@David-ug8jc There wasnt really anything he could do I guess. The point is that Larry didnt respect him enough to give a shit.
The disagreement with Joe about government regulations in construction was one of Joe's greatest moments of all time
Yes @bobjenkins4925. example: Turkey Gaziantep earthquake 2023. Avoidable tragedy.
The school gym in China that collapsed on the girls volleyball team.
@@mattimus8250or just most tofu dreg buildings all over china.
The fact that this guy thinks that 90% of building contractors would do quality work without needing a building code shows how out of touch he is.
man that annoyed me. I've worked in trades (cabinet making/building and mechanics). DO NOT underestimate how much a tradesman will cut corners! some people are absolutely shocking no respect or anything. Dave Rubin has no idea wtf he was talking about there
The more I learn about these internet personalities , I am reminded of a quote from Tree Beard in LOTR: "Side? I am on nobody's side. Because no one is on my side, little orc."
Hahahaha I love treebeard
Sounds like orc mischief to me
There’s no way that was not Norm Macdonald on the phone with Larry 😂
You can see the panic in his eyes any time somebody contests something he says
He looks so flushed
His time as a liberal and his switch was probably traumatizing. As a liberal you have to make sure you believe exactly the same thing and any different opinion can end your career. That's not how conservatism works, that's why conservatives speak without fear. He's really concerned with what people think about him, and because he's only been a conservative for so long, his ideas aren't built out yet.
Conservatives are a very fearful people. Especially the Christian’s. They’ve gotta fix that.
@@TenekaiIt sounds like you're just sniffing your farts here. Research shows that once issues become politicized, people doubt scientists if they contradict their own side. Meaning a lack of critical thinking is just universally human. We're all irrational, and thinking your side isn't is just a classic blind spot we all have.
The IDW thing was goofy af, jumped the shark but Peterson straight saved my life before that. I was addicted to heroin and didnt understand why or what responsibility was, basically was just fucked up. Never was big on Dave, but the other guys got thrown into like super scrutinizing fame, Jordan got hooked on anxiety meds while his wife was on her death bed, just all kinds of craziness. (Sober 5+ years now btw, and it wasnt just JBP talking that helped obv lol)
Woah congrats 👏 5ys is freaking amazing 🤩
I've got 9ys myself... I loved Peterson back then he was very inspirational and still is when he's not acting crazy on Twitter lol
But overall I'm just so happy to see a fellow in sobriety ❤🫶❤️
Keep moving forward 😄💜🤗
Good for you!!
JBP has saved a lot of us, love the man through his ups and downs even when I disagree with him.
Congratulations on your sobriety. Hopefully I can get there one day.
The IDW tag was mostly Eric being a crazy person, that's why he's great. It's only goofy if you think it was meant to be something permanent or a final solution to all the ills of modernity.
It was the perfect description for the time and place.
It was extremely useful. It's too bad they didn't manage to drag Dave Ramsey into it, because he would have fit right in and there would be a lot less broke bros out there.
Shout out the king himself Larry for taking that call & not rushing it a bit. Being his age & how precious life really is. He took his time. I back that up 🫡
Yet he lets Neil DeGrasse Tyson on his show over and over again
Neil is honest. Real recognizes real
@@funnyberries4017 Neil is a pretentious and obnoxious narcissist who thinks of himself as some combination of carl sagan and yoda. Meanwhile his philosophy is shallow as a rain puddle and amounts to "uncritically accept any authority".
He's insufferable to listen do. Guy probably jars his farts to huff later.
"I dont believe in any religion, but im not atheist" is the type of stupidity i expect from dave rubin. If you dont believe in theism, you ARE atheist neil. The word literally means 'not theist"
@@funnyberries4017
Real De GrabAss Tyson
@@funnyberries4017 he's not exactly always honest, he'll often say something that he has no clue about with absolute confidence even if he's totally wrong. Maybe that's honest, maybe he's trying to obfuscate the truth. It's up to you to decide that.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi give examples of him being "totally wrong"
15:46 Coming from a third world country, Joe is absolutely right. Dave is a politician, not an engineer. There was a garment factory collapse and hundreds of workers died in my country Bangladesh because of lack of regulation, negligence and corporate greed. If you watch any engineering failure videos on UA-cam, the engineers will stress the fact how important it is to abide by the building codes.
I do get what Dave was trying to get at tho. Like, I think it’s fucking ridiculous that if I’m just getting a new septic tank installed that the contractor has to fork out $750 on my behalf for a permit to do so-𝓦𝓱𝔂?!! What business is it of the government if I want to do some home renovations-𝓦𝑻𝑭?! Ok🤗I get it. I know all about some shitty buildings like South Korea’s Sampoong mall collapse or that “hotel” fire that killed several elementary school children on an overnight or that building collapse during a wedding in Israel. But still, there has to be a happy medium in between somewhere where the government isn’t r@ping you just for $$$$$ is all I’m saying.
Permits are for paper trails and it's for your protection. If that shit fails you're gonna be happy that you can hold that contractor accountable.
@@TehBAiNzOr ROFL yea, paper trails. That's why they charge $750... for the paper. You don't need a piece of paper to hold the contractor accountable. It's a money making scheme for the city/county.
@@stanleyclark923how about it’s both necessary and extremely overpriced?
@@robinmcinarnay7827Because your faulty home renovations can have lasting impacts on the environment, property value of your land or surrounding lands, etc. and it behooves the government to ensure everyone is taking proper precautions to install and maintain infrastructure. You can redo the interior of your house all you want with no permit, but as soon as you’re dealing with structural renovations, or digging for electrical or plumbing work, it is prudent for safety and above-board work (not hiring Joe Schmo and his 6 migrant workers) to get the job done safely, and up to code.
I always said I’m not into celebrity drama, but then I found this channel. Now I want to know everyone who doesn’t like Joe or Joe doesn’t like.
This is hysterical and exactly why I watch this channel LMAO.
Larry King pulled a "Norm" with the phone call,hahaha
Larry’s finest moment.
Dirt. Nap.
Joe always looks at Jamie and smirks when he thinks something that his guest said is dumb lol
"I was pissed for the first 30 mins, but then saw how successful it was so i leaned into it!" - grifter
The 'intellectual dark web' was such a victim narrative. It's all about being unfairly ostracized. They didn't come off as underdogs, but self-proclaimed fallen angels, which is grandiose.
Self - pitying narcissists and grifters, why has the right wing become so pathetic and motivated by grievance and whining?? They're supposed to love authoritarian 'strongmen' 😂
I don’t know. When corporate news sites lie about you outright I’d call that an underdog. But mainstream news seems to be what most people still consume and believe I guess.
@@abelgonzales3695 NPCs still consume and believe MSM
@@abelgonzales3695 It's just how it came off. They're all still fully employed, well educated, best sellers, with dozens of rich friends and/or family.
They're unfairly persecuted, but that doesn't make them weak targets. They went from thriving to still thriving. The average joe has nothing to pity about them.
@@Garblegox yes I get that, but I would root for them way more than the mainstream news. I even prefer to watch my political rivals who have no corporate ties than my own side of politics that are corporate backed. Mainstream news is slowly dying, and that may be a good thing. Maybe they’ll wise up and start giving us more partisan content. But I seriously doubt it.
I love this dudes voice. So calm. Monotone. No emotion. And he just slays dudes.
Lol Oh wow. Imagine genuinely calling yourself/your little group “The Intellectual Dark Web”… and doing so with the upmost sincerity too.
Well pretty easy to see why they all have that pathetic academic ego where there smart, but actually have no fcking clue about anything outside of a certain field.
They did not all give themselves that name. One person joking did, and now others mistook it as an actual thing.
So, nobody did this with any type or sincerity..
Pulled this from Wikipedia, and it sounds accurate...
The intellectual dark web (IDW) is a term used to describe some commentators who oppose identity politics, political correctness, and cancel culture in higher education and the news media within Western countries.
I was just watching your crowder vid and pumped to see it was 16 minutes long. It was awesome, and pretty eye opening. I head to your channel to see if I missed any other vids and see you uploaded this while I was watching your other one. Fuckin right, life is good.
“What’s that phrase ‘the show must go on?’”
Yeah Dave, that’s the most famous axiom in show business alright
Tbh I genuinely have a good bit of respect for Joe Rogan. Especially when seeing him talk to all these weirdos and refusing to buy into all their self-indulging bs… but rather perfectly willing to call them out about it.
Unfortunately that's not the norm for Joe, he has nodded and agreed to a lot of stupid shit haha
Moments like this make me root for him though, he's gotten a bit better at it
@@drewpeacock9087 I think when you talk for thousands of hours to random people you just don’t have the energy to argue with everyone you disagree with. You KNOW he’s zoning out and thinking about moose and his chickens at home and ice baths 78% of the time.
@@drewpeacock9087 I think you got that backwards. He used to sometimes push back except on people like Alex Jones and Shabibo and other weirdos (which be rightfully got criticized for). Then COVID happened and he went full brain worms.
@@Ligierthegreensun the vaccine thing was his only bad take/stance. Everything else has remained consistently sound though
Funny he falls for that stuff all the time that's why I stopped watching him. The dudes as bigger fck head as Dave Rubin
Rogan saying he can't hang out with grifters😂
Meanwhile he blows Krystal and Saagar
He can and does. They just hide it a lot better. Dave is too dumb to be convincing.
I wouldn't really call Rogan a grifter. He doesn't seem to have a firm ideological stance on _anything._ He flip flops on EVERY topic, depending on the guest.
@@Skrenja He didn't call Joe a grifter necessarily, just that he's made a career out of having them on his show
@@Skrenja And also depending on his ego.
Jordan Peterson really helped me gain direction in my life. I was alienated from my children, and facing my responsibility has built a beautiful life for my family.
Dave Rubin isn’t anything other than a person taking advantage of a particular group of people who want to be told “You’re right! And everyone else is wrong. “.
I saw this simp’s interview w/JRE and it was exactly what you said. One big run for cover. It’s like Dave had finally gotten on Joes show and he actually thought he knew who Joe was. He figured Joe was just some “fuck the government in every form it takes” type of guy. And that’s who he tried to play to. Of course it didn’t work out for him b/c Joes BS meter and as less clouded by the copious amounts of weed and alcohol they are otherwise regularly subjected to.
What I dislike so much is the desperate yes man he is. He doesnt have any idea outside what he thinks the other person want to hear and cowers against the minimal pushback. The texbook definition of beta male.
which what most of these right wing, red pill grifters do anyway. from pearl to andrew tate to ben shapiro and candace owens.
I mean… no matter what side you fall on (since in America you can now only be one or the other apparently) both sides are like that. Both refuse to give even an inch and everything the other side does is wrong and everything they do is right. And I doubt you’re any different, you probably think whatever “those people” is crazy and wrong and you’re not.
@@bradenharris8718 You’re assuming a lot about this guy’s beliefs. He’s just making the obvious observation that Dave Rubin is appealing to the right for money. I think that’s something left and right wingers can agree on.
@6:17 "i'm gonna ask you again if you're high, & i need you to be honest with me" LMAOOOOOOOOOOO 😂😂😂😂
Rogan: “IDW isn’t a serious name”
Also Rogan: “death squad”
Yeah, it's hysterical how Rogan and his fans pretend that Rogan doesn't like to be part of a group but yet he had a comedy group full of LA hacks and he constantly talks about how comedians need to stick together.
Rogan has no spine. He's a flip flopper that never had a father.
Yeah but the death squad can destroy your body Dave just wants you to destroy his ass.
@@shadow_realm47 god dammit 😂
No idea who Dave Rubin is, but after watching this video it seems like I'm lucky and it's for the best. Guy seems like an absolute doinker.
Dunking on Rave Dubin is one of my favorite niches on the internet
This is the best and most well-structured critique of Dave Rubin I've ever seen. Every point you made flowed very naturally into the next, and at no point did you come across as rude or dismissive. Other people who criticize Rubin, myself included, usually just can't take the guy seriously enough to put effort into a critique, so I really appreciate your work here.
Lol guy is just off the wall with what he's talking about. Nobody has a direct issue with him being gay. That's just so fake. This guy doesn't do his research he just makes up stuff.
@@dixonhill1108 or rather you're in complete denial
You obviously haven't come across Timbah On Toast. Oh boy are you in for a treat :)
@@razzle_dazzle Sounds familiar. I think I saw it a long time ago.
@@OogaBoogaBooga6969Wrong. All he is doing is picking out clips to fit his agenda. Right?
The regulations only matter if
A: there are enough regulators to enforce the code
B: the fine for harming people is greater than the profit earned.
Cars makers sometimes won't recall cars because the wrongful death lawsuits cost less than a recall. Same with pharmaceutical companies.
That is assuming the family of the person harmed has the money to hire an attorney and sue.
Big lolz on this one. I was upper management at a large European car manufacturer, and we had - literally - 32 people burn to death because of an electric faults in one of our vehicles... and, dude, we spent a whole fucking weekend calculating which would cost us more money. I'll give you a clue to the answer... That meeting was after 7 deaths lmao. In the end we got fined 460 million. But hey ho. You win some, you lose some.
Joe was high as a kite in that nasa jacket clip.
Dave Rubin is the human personification of the crying wojack wearing the smiling mask.
Lmao
Guy reminds of the guy from American Pyscho, there's nobody home. My favorite moment was when he went away for the weekend and tried to turn it into a big announcement that he now believes in god. Like yeah all it takes is going on a weekend trip and then you decide to come out as christian, it's so bizarre.
lmao
Dave Rubin did this one interview with PBD that was kinda weird and always stuck with me. He brought up an example while trying to explain why he thinks Donald Trump is a genuinely nice guy, where he was at a dinner and met Trump, then introduced him to his husband. To which Trump apparently reacted by going "Whoah? You're GAY? That's incredible! Hey Melania check it out, these guy's are GAY! Can ya believe it? Isn't that just wonderful?" and made a big performance that really sounded like Trump was just taking the piss and making fun of the guy. Yet Rubin thought it was this amazing proof of Trump's kind nature or something lmao
He doesn't come off as your typical gay guy. It shocked me when I found out he was gay too. Don just wanted to be real with him and still let him know he accepts him by introducing him to his wife. Stop looking for outrage where there is none.
Always remember when the tds starts a brewin, donald trump was the first president ever to support gay marriage before becoming president.
@@Ervinabrahamian Outrage? You're off your meds mate 😂
God I love Trump
@@Cos_Why_Noti too love the taste of his saggy orange balls
Dude. Your channel here scratches an itch I didn't even know I had!
When Joe had to school him on why construction regulation was important I feel like that was the breaking point.
Of course we need building regulations .
Construction safety regulations are great of course, but are we sure that is what Rubin was saying to get rid of and not the insane building regulations that property owners are subject to, like not being able to put an addition on your home or catching rain water or having a garden or any number of the bullshit regulations there are?
Check out chinas buildings with no regulations that are literally falling apart.
@@jacobgagnon1820 but China runs a socialist economy with absurd fake incentives set by the government prefectures, this is completely at odds with the unregulated free market concept that Dave Rubin is proposing.. even if he's being too idealistic to be practical. No doubt Rubin is a libertarian Randian at heart.
It's such a weird move to ask someone to make a social commitment during a recorded show, especially one that benefits only you. I think that's one of the other off-putting mistakes Dave is making. It comes off as desperate, and it kind of shows how he is viewing the conversation as a career move. Sure, it often is, but Joe especially doesn't want to feel like a tool for other people's careers.
I like how Dave made Ben look like a complete bigot, it makes me wonder if Dave is doing this on purpose.
Dave re-telling that story where he got abandoned at UNH is everything 😂
Dave Rubin is a classic example of a guy who believes nothing and just cares about money
The last name is a clue.
Hey cool it with those remarks
@@HansKlopek unlike King of the gentiles Tucker Carlson, the epitome of "lie my ass off for money"😂
@@samuraijacques952 weird comment, did Tucker do something to do?
Totally, and that's why he always seems so anxious and on edge. Living a lie is exhausting.
Joe was creeped out by this from the jump but got roped in by peer pressure and pressure from his audience. Joe seems over the culture war. It's not 2017 anymore.
I don’t think he’s over it, I think he doesn’t wanna get pulled in more… Trump would be on otherwise.
We know why he won’t have trump on and if he was over the war, having Trump on with not matter.
😮
@@RickyWatter32 what? The mental gymnastics you had to pull to make that make sense were crazy. Having trump on would absolutely further entrench him in it. He seems to be distancing himself from all culture warriors. He clearly wants to go back to focusing on comedy.
@@puffball4484 mental gymnastics? You’ve been waiting for a time to use that lol
No, he's just a sell out that decided making 40 million dollars a year being independent wasn't enough and he needed to be under Spotify's thumb.
That building argument is so bad.
They cut corners even with regulation, so lets get rid of any and all ways to hold builders liable for it. Makes sense.
Saying the free market will regulate safety itself is such a bad faith argument, and shows this guy has never been on an active construction zone.
Sam Harris also always hated the "Intellectual Dark Web" title lmao. It's funny how like half the people in it either didn't belong or wanted nothing to do with the others.
They were all intellectually opposed to each other. The irony :P
@@shadow_realm47 What's so ironic about that? That is the point. It is to get people with opposing point of view to sit down together and talk about world events. Not to sit in a echo chamber congratulating each other and patting themselves on the back. If you didn't get that just stop making comments about this subject.
@@havu2236Echo chamber and back pats describes everyone in that circle besides Harris. Such free thinkers that they all came to the exact same populist positions on the economy, virology, foreign affairs, etc.
@@matrixfan58yeah, Harris has completely disgraced himself on many of those issues
I met Brett Weinstein (Eric's brother) at a grocery store in Portland Oregon. Had a nice albeit short chat with him. Seems like someone who would have been fun to have as a professor before everything got stupid for him and his wife at Evergreen. Nice firm handshake too.
I thought he was a little dead-fishy, myself.
They’re both total weirdos but they definitely have some interesting things to say. I’d like to meet them both and say hi and thanks for contributing to open dialogue. It’s important to acknowledge that today.
@@beowulf_of_wall_st I agree
@@beowulf_of_wall_stwhy say everyone when you and I know they beg equal hate as they do praise.
Probably had a sweet ass too
My brain is still in recovery mode from all of Dave Rubin's high level ideas. And his voice certainly doesn't make me want to shove an ice pick in my ears.
What a sad existence asking a “close friend” if they’d come to your anniversary party and being told they’d have to think about it bc they think your very existence is a sin lmao
Bro has no true friends, I'd rather be alone than be friends with someone who thinks my existence is wrong. Dave is just an opportunist for whatever gets his name out there more, god the desperation in him begging Joe to be on his show was just pathetic, serious nice guy I'll get you to be on my show by fake being your super enthusiastic friend. You can just tell Joe's skin is crawling having to fake niceness.
@@jessed6151except I watched Dave make his slow, more than year long transition from left to classical liberal in real time every week as at happened from 2015 to 2016, just 3 or 4 years after I had made the same transition myself in 2011. It was fascinating watching someone go through most of the same struggles and internal arguments that I had, making the same counter arguments to some of his early guests as I had thought in my head. You can't fake that.
@@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 i have some bad news for you :D
I bet it has to do with promotion I think Joe sometimes sees it as taking advantage or being like the only reason to talk to him. To get to us
If that were the case he wouldn't do half of the pods he does. Even Joe knows Ruben is a grifter and about as sharp as a spoon when it comes to having a halfway logical discussion.
@bccsivxx-xxivvii but I think it's the approach that makes the decision that the guests gets to come shill. Like are people looking at him as the QVC channel to peddle out whatever. Or is it someone to have a somewhat genuine or intriguing conversation and then have their shilling. Like whenever guests bring "gift bags" and unload it as soon as the camera turns on. It's a game and people like Dave play sloppy so don't get asked to play again
The phone call during a podcast is next level comedy
Dave, "I'm gay" Rubin
Token Gay Conservative
well that’s the grift there isn’t it.
Ben “the bible says so” Shapiro
Larry King answering his phone call about a baseball game has nothing to do with any interviewer... I can only hope that a phone call about my family in that old age would be as important as it is right then...
I fucking love how disrespectful it was to Dave and Larry could not have cared less
I love this channel! Thank you George
Thanks for making this channel bro. Love ur entertaining commentary on the standup/podcast world
Yeah didn’t know this would exist but I enjoy it
@@corbanschrieffer9576 right? Its a niche genre that I thought only a few cared about
As soon as Rubin said "Builder's want to make things that are good.", I knew he was clueless. Builder's, like everyone else in our society, all they want is the MONEY. They do not care about quality, safety, environment, or anything else but maximizing PROFITS.
Hmmm. My husband is a tradie. He lays flooring, big areas, big money. Whilst the money is fantastic, and is the reason he gets up at 6am, he also does care about the quality of his work. I think you must have had some horrible experiences with tradesmen/people, and it has jaded you. Do you work? Do you care about the quality of your work? If you don’t, have you had complaints?
@@pommiebears I am a contractor. He and I are the minority and I can tell you he makes less money for caring about those things than the other who cut all the corners they can do.
@@simon_does yeah. I do know some cut corners. You don’t? I love that you don’t. My husband doesn’t. If anything, he tries so hard to leave our customers with a great experience. He was up in someone’s attic the other day, getting her something from it. She was elderly and he wanted to help. Some customers are crazy though lol. No matter what you do, can’t please everyone.
Man, you totally voiced the feelings that made me dislike Dave Rubin. I viewed him as someone totally devoid of substance, but did not really know why. Great video!
4:23 it's hilarious how drunk Joe is in that clip. The responses from Duncan Trussell "that's cool man" make it even funnier.
I read the comment as it happened 😂
So funny, shows how out of it duncan was too lol completely unfitting response to what joe was saying haha but they're such good friends that slight verbal misfires don't matter because they're such good friends and get each other so well
Duncan episodes are the best that dude is chill af
At the beginning of this video I felt kinda bad for Dave Rubin because it’s my initial reaction anytime I see someone not standing up for themselves. Hanging out with people that think your life is a sin and your family is immoral is insane. If you could only stand up for one thing in life it should be your family! If you can’t do that because of money/greed then that’s very sad. I wonder how his family feels about it?
I’m glad joe cut ties though because if you aren’t authentic and no one knows if you actually believe what you’re saying, then what’s the point of listening or having a conversation?
Except maybe it's not true and this guy is an idiot who's creating fake gossip
I think he learned a lesson that day to not ask questions if you don't want the honest answer. I actually give props to Ben for sticking to his beliefs and actually giving an honest answer.
Agreed. I also don’t think he should corner his friends on whether they approve of his life. I don’t agree with surrogacy as an industry. However, if my friend used a surrogate I would celebrate that baby and family like any other. The personal does not have to be political. I would hope my friend would respect my beliefs enough to not push me to debate their family, and I would respect my friendship and love my friend enough to not bring up my opinion of their choices.
I'm a devout Christian in Australia and I have mates who are very anti-religion; they don't think my life is a sin, they think I'm living in a fairy land. That said, everything else we get along with each other great. I also have Muslim friends, and we think each other are wrong, and living in sin, yet we are mates. Y
I think this is where neo-liberal "tolerance" is so insular. The rest of the world...and the rest of history...have lived side by side with people who disagree with each other, and they don't "tolerate", they show kindness. Tolerance is apathetic, and ironically, neo-liberal toleration is more intolerant than most religions or cultures. Modern toleration is great with people being sooooo different on the outside, but not different in their thinking.
@@bellingdog well I’m an atheist who’s mom is Jehovah’s Witness. You don’t get much more extreme than her views. But I don’t think that’s comparable in any way to being gay and being around ppl who think you’re an abomination. In fact, this is the only time in my life I’ve ever heard anyone compare atheists and religious ppl to that of gay ppl and religious ppl. No one even knows my religious beliefs anyway and most probably never will. But if you are gay and married to a man I think it’s obvious what sexuality you are lol and my mom would have a problem with me if I was gay. I don’t think she’d even speak to me. But with Being an atheist, she still thinks there’s hope I can be “saved”. That’s another big difference.
The liberal stuff you’re getting on with I’m not sure where that came from as I didn’t say I was a liberal. But I also hang out with ppl with all different beliefs. Do you think ppl meet someone and Instantly ask their political party? You become friends and maybe down the road learn that. So I’m sure everyone hangs out with ppl of different politics and religions. But if you think being gay is a sin, more times than not you will not associate with gay ppl.
Hold up…. Was BRIAN CALLEN seriously in that intellectual dark web pic?? Literally no one has ever referred to Callen as “an intellectual”
I HATE when people use the "interesting academic concept" to argue (weakly) a point that they can't defend and fear pushback on. It's exactly what Dave does there. He says he thinks building regulations are stupid, Joe makes valud points about why they're necessary and immediately he jumps to "I don't think regulations are bad, I just think it's an interesting academic discussion". It's like people playing "Devil's Advocate" because they're too much of coward to actually stand behind what they think/say/believe.
Jordan Peterson wearing the dual suit is the completion of his batman villain character arc.
How anybody can take Dave Rubin seriously is beyond me. The man is just an opportunist who stands for nothing except for saying what he thinks people want too hear too make as much money as he can grifting his audience.
The "too" in both uses should just be "to"
Very deep and original analysis.. thanks!
I felt really bad for Dave when Shapiro said he wouldn't go to his wedding. He seemed pretty hurt and Dave would've had the right to walk away from a "freind" like that. You shouldn't let people treart you like dirt.
It’s his own fault for aligning himself with people for financial gain that do not share his values. Imagine in 2023 telling someone their relationship is a sin and therefore cannot be celebrated...that’s a friendship killer in my opinion.
@@lohengrin4009 It is a sin
I mean, how would you feel if a friend left his wife and invited you to their marriage with a 19 year old.
I disagree with Ben's position obviously but I do understand it from his moral framework of the world.
Ben can't celebrate homosexuality and be Jewish at the same time.
@@MistaFahrenheit that’s because Jewish theology has nothing to do with someone else’s rights to spend their life with who they choose. Stay in your lane.
I was beginning to feel bad for him since he’s always getting dogged by his “friends” for being gay, but then you hit the nail on the head: he lets it happen and never stands up for himself. He chose money over defending himself. Hard to feel bad for that
Rubin embraced the "intellectual dark web" thing more than anyone. He's a collectivist at heart. Same reason he'd rather work for The Blaze than go it alone.
The greatest roast of all time was Larry just outright disregarding Rave Dubin on his own show. The full length clip is immensely funny.
Generally speaking, it’s so crazy Joe Rogan has such a huge voice and influence…
I’m so glad I stumble across your channel out of nowhere. Solid commentary.
Joe Rogan will outlast all these dickheads.
Larry Kings kid must be in his 80s playing baseball that amazing
Never knew Dave but he seems like a kind soul from what i can see.
You got to earn respect but you also got to demand it, else people walk over you. unfortunately
A kind soul doesn't hire a surrogate and deprive a baby from its mother and any maternal figure.
He's a fraud. He had the worst standup ive ever seen. He made Gringo Papi look like This Niggas Crazy
@@flameguy3416 what does that have to do with anything? The surrogate was for the baby for a gay couple? Lol mom isn’t in the picture past birthing it and payment
@@flameguy3416the mother doesn't want the baby do you know what a surrogate is? Is adopting evil too?
@@flameguy3416 lmaooo
I too have something to say about this 27 minute long video that has only been up for 7 minutes
Larry had his priorities straight.
Yea, but Rogan has since adopted the "moving of the goalpost" when even referring to himself. He just thought it was bullshit til he saw it first hand. Rogan's always said he's left leaning while still having some right leaning values (2nd amendment, hunting, etc) and said now that progressives have shifted the left even farther left, it now makes him look like, and subsequently be called a right winger. He's even used the term "traditional liberal," which is close enough to "classic."
Dave reaching for his soda but then realizing he needs what I can only imagine is scotch… Says what he was really feeling during the Larry moment haha.
Larry King was such a legend and from what it seems also a great dad. Keep resting legend ✊🏻
Calling yourself the intellectual darkweb is the most cringe middle school type shit
Rogan talking about grifters with Duncan Trussell sitting across from him is so ironic.
Larry was a legend for that