The Queen of Scams with Jamie Bartlett
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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Jamie Bartlett is the co-writer and presenter of the BBC's podcast The Missing Cryptoqueen, an ongoing investigation into OneCoin and the disappearance of its founder Ruja Ignatova in 2017. In this interview, we discuss the latest updates on the case that triggered the first new episodes in the podcast being released in over 2 years.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Various layers of scamming
00:06:25 Update on OneCoin & characters
00:16:17 OneCoin & Ruja the ‘Cryptoqueen’ recap
00:25:56 Bulgaria corruption, mafia; Ruja rumours
00:33:24 The investigation can’t be solved or shelved
00:40:36 Following the money; how to disappear
00:53:18 What happened in Dubai?
01:00:45 Telling a story of chaos; free speech
01:13:57 Opinions on FTX
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“It’s a gigantic pyramid scheme with all sorts of organised crime and money laundering angles to the story as well, but at the centre of it, it’s just this woman who built a very sophisticated scam and then disappeared with all the money; and then the FBI finally put her on the 10 Most Wanted list about three months ago.”
- Jaime Bartlett
Jamie Bartlett is the co-writer and presenter of the BBC's podcast The Missing Cryptoqueen, an ongoing investigation into OneCoin and the disappearance of its founder Ruja Ignatova in 2017. In this interview, we discuss the latest updates on the case that triggered the first new episodes in the podcast being released in over 2 years.
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OneCoin was called the greatest Ponzi scheme in crypto. Obviously, a lot has happened this year that is likely to result in a reappraisal of that statement. But, the fraud perpetrated was eyewatering: allegedly $4 billion was stolen from investors. This means it ranks as still one of the biggest Ponzi schemes both inside and outside of crypto.
Yet, what differentiates OneCoin from other Ponzi schemes is that the lead character has yet to be punished: in 2017, Ruja Ignatova, the glamourous and enigmatic founder of OneCoin, disappeared. Jamie Bartlett, a seasoned investigative journalist, started looking for her in 2019. Rumours turned into breadcrumb trails, which turned into credible leads, which turned into dust.
Whilst Ruja remains elusive, the deeper Jamie delves into this case the more ominous the story becomes. What started out as a scam by a set of audacious schemers, soon became a broader criminal enterprise involving organised crime, corrupted state officials and powerful interests. The FBI has made Ruja one of their ten most wanted fugitives. The stakes are massive.
A troubling aspect of this case is the willingness of supposedly reputable people and firms to engage in ‘legal’ support for this fraud, including intimidation of those who seek to uncover the truth. This case cuts to the core of what is wrong in both crypto and wider society: willingness within professional groups to go along with malfeasance when there is money to be made.
This is why we need more people like Jamie. More than the dogged determination to see a story through to a suitable conclusion is the dedication to a life without the quick and easy financial payoffs of other professions. Journalists are willing to avoid the incentives offered by other industries to pursue truth. Perhaps such uncelebrated bravery is the real story here.
I sometimes wonder how and why you never seem to mention the exact date the show was recorded, both in the interview and in the show notes. Considering how fast-moving the crypto world is and all that. Considering how much time and effort you spend on the show notes, time stamps etc. which I greatly appreciate btw. it seems like a bit of a glaring omission.
yes just on the top right next tot the "what bitcoin did" Logo just month and year like Dec 22. Not much but it would help.
absolutely, great idea
Never even heard of Ruja, and I'm so glad I watched this. Wow, what a fascinating story. Great work on this, will def. be checking out his book. Thanks WBD, great episode!
This is a different and brilliant ep! Expanding the possibilities of the show, I'm excited to see where this goes in 2023. Can't wait to buy and read Jamie's book
I enjoyed listening to the podcast a lot.
16:40 Danny's smile at that moment LUL I love it
Do you have a link to the debate video?
Peter, you should interview the guys that did the Lazerus Heist (BBC) too.
last night, no shit, I had a dream that I was building a chicken coop for Peter! not even kidding, we were building this big ass hen house, there was probably a thousand laying hens in there and I'll tell you what... they were laying golden eggs.... and it was awesome! I absolutely love adventures into the uroboric unconscious and reemerging from that deep pool as a reconstituted self. : ) Danny was there, I fuckin love Danny btw
We talking about ETH?
Great program, Peter! Thank you for what you do. Comments on free speech were well needed. I focus on technical infrastructure so we can transact safely and freely. I’m gravely concerned internet infrastructure has gotten to centralized not unlike Communist China. It is critical we embrace free speech and personal privacy.
FYI: Taghi has been arrested, now in the EBI highly secured jail awaiting conviction.
i legit thought that you were going to roast ethereum in this episode. 🤣
Seems like Binance is more on top of the pyramid. It's really sad for cryptocurrency seeing how they aggressively targeted the only exchange based in freedom. But in the last video she put out she mentioned CZ, so it's a very bad omen and points to something much larger and darker.
at first glance it looked like you were interviewing nicholas cage
wow! tony greenberg back
Everything that happens after you got offended, is created in your own mind.
As if y’all just said “2-Pack”. I thought “2-Pack Shaker” was just a white person meme. I didn’t think anyone actually said his name that way.
The thumbnail looks like Nicholas Cage
Haha you're right
Anyone else find it kind of hard to follow a podcast when the two people have almost identical voices? :)
Yes, same problem!
yes especially when it's 2 americans, those accents are horrid.
Just an observation on democracy... How can an MP claim to represent me when I'm never asked my views? Sure, once every four or so years they ask me who I want to represent me but they never ask me what I think! Just the platform on which they stand. Additionally if my MP is someone I did not vote for then can they really represent me? And finally if my MP belongs to a particular party then their first allegiance is to that party and not to me! Surely we can do better than this
Ruja Ignatova = Keyser Soze.
#buy bitcoin.
Well, if you want to move on from investigating Ruja and OneCoin, QuadrigaCX bitcoin has just moved for the first time since that happened. so You can shift your energy to searching for Gerald Cotton!
Companies house - jokes
FUD
this interview looks totally scripted,they arent even in the same room together
What are you talking about?
Yep totally staged. Just like the moon landing.