@@jacklegminercanada3866 I’m a HVACR technician. So funny thing about vacuum is... is under vacuum, the freezing point of anything raises. (Kinda like the radiator in your car being under pressure, which raises the boiling point). Do you have a vacuum pump? Put a shot of water in a glass and put it under vacuum. You can freeze it at room temperature. In HVAC there is a concern in the community if you pull a vacuum on a refrigeration system TOO fast you will freeze any moisture in the system. Well in a small blasting tube, you IMMEDIATELY pull that small space into a DEEP vacuum.... and any light moisture is going to freeze. Pulling a vacuum before or after probably will produce near identical results either way, So though “pulling a vacuum before freezing” is logical, the fact is you probably froze any moisture in the tube when you put a deep vacuum on it (in seconds) anyways. And yes... you hold a deep vacuum long enough, the ice will sublimate. It’s physics.
Great point about small unit and the atmosphere in your lines. Considering the size of the tanks the atmosphere in the hose would be a high percentage of the volume
Unless you worked in Europe, you probably didn't do much work with recovering hydrocarbons. Or maybe you did. The US doesn't have much r600/r600a system to work on.
well done bro it some times amazes me how much oil i get some times off of a trim run we have 3 rosin presses and some times i prefure to blast my pucks if ther extrs sticky,and i have to say its unreal how great the quality comes ou t . if i hjad the whole closed loop collection vessel and the other tanks as well i have it soon as well .... ps bang up job its the trash we turn to gold
That's a nice little rig! Thanks for sharing. I've been slowly building up my system using your discount code! Just got a dexaing column in this week. 👍👍
Was this a new system for you? I've been using it for apx 8 years you need to be careful with recovery your oil will travel over with the solvent if you aren't careful
pull the vac, seal it, THEN chill down the vessel to achieve true maximum-possible vacuum. Trust me (test it and see!), the resulting vacuum effect will go beyond the maximum pull of the vacuum pump by itself. Whereas vacuuming the vessel once it's already chilled (as shown in the video) will result in a vacuum only as deep as the pump can deliver by itself.
I'm a chemist, so I want to explain things a bit here. While you would be correct that heating the vessel while pumping the vacuum and then chilling after would produce a harder vacuum it is actually pointless in this scenario because the vacuum itself goes away the second you add the butane. It is not the actual vacuum that is important, the only important part is that only butane gas is in the chamber and no air, which itself exists at high pressure not low pressure. The reason for this is that air, when in contact with the cold surface of the receiving vessel (the one in the dry ice) wouldn't do anything special other than become cold air. Butane gas however as it gets cold will condense into liquid pulling in more butane gas from the source vessel in the process. Therefore if you have too much air mixed in with butane this process slows down and it takes longer to move from one vessel to the next. But once the process starts there is no vacuum it is all at high pressure. So there is no actual benefit from producing a hard vacuum in the first step.
I saw the cooling as a waste of time but pulling a vacuum on this system with what I would assume is trimmings is going to take some time as the moisture comes out of the product.. What kind of time is needed at this point?
You are so want to pull the vacuum before you chill When it's chilling with no vacuum the atmosphere will create ice and the ice will not vacuum out common sense
My problem with the larger one, the 135g mini extractor, it says in the description that it only can use one can of butane max, that's not enough to extract it all, it will take more than a can to get through all that material. I assume it will take like 3-4 cans.
+kody “sorrynotsorry” Frase under vacuum apparently not. i think thats what i heard... bc i thought that too! .... but i think when you lines, tank and the material columb is under full vac it doesnt need all that extra... but im no CLS expert
99.97% Anhydrous alcohol rinses the collection chamber out nicely, and evaporates off with no residue. Really puts the shatter in the result as well :)
It you don't have a vacuum oven is there any reason why you could not just pull a vacuum on the collection chamber and warm that up in a water bath? It seems like essentially the same thing.
what kind of vacuum pump is that oil or oil less if it uses oil do you have any special filters or anything on it. also how often do you change the oil in the pump? thanks for great video!!!
Good video sir. Question, I could I also put a small amount of Everclear in the bottom of the Collection Container to help the extract slide out of the container easier? I've seen someone do it before didn't know if it would help.
Nicholas Hamil sure after you have extracted you can use everclear to help it out and now they just upgraded the mini a lil bigger and with splatter platters for a easy pour
Ok I know I'm to late and way to high but I could have used more explaining twored the end there after you shut of the vaxume and the rambaling made me a little confused but good work
So im considering using a regular open butane extraction system, what is the benefit of the closed loop? I presume better yield? Seems like heaps more expensive equipment.
+Donald Griffin you dont have to have dry ice but things will go alot slower like 10 times slower lol. a run with dry ice will take around a hour where a run with just ice can go longer then six hours. the minis will go a lil faster but dry ice will help everything run alot smoother and faster. hope this helps
Can you put parchment paper in the collection tank so you dont leave a gram of oil on the bottom? Seems a waste to me and a pain in the ass if you need to try to scrape that out.
I purchased this unit and Im experiencing pressure loss. leaks out of where the line threads onto the unit. and once it leaked from the spatter platter. what am I doing wrong !! lol thank you
+AmerikanPBT i doubt your doing much of anything wrong, alot could have happened during shipping. to make sure I dont have any mishaps during a run I do a dry run/distill to test and clean. before you do a run with material do one with out and when your done wipe out the empty equipment with a tack cloth to clean the mystery oil and you can test everything at the same time so you will be killing to birds with the same stone. hope this helps and will try to help more if needed
this was informative but you didn't distill the tane? other than yield increase and easier terp preservation, this stuff is no better than open blasted bho.
Just curious Dirty, how much dry ice did you use on this run? I've just brought the system the next size up and can't wait to run it, just need to know a rough amount of dry ice I need to order. Cheers bro
with the mini 10 to 20 ponds will do great and get pellets if you can, the block will work too just more work lol you can get away with 10 but always good yo jave extra
BTW, you forgot to mention your return. I know that it depends on material quality, and you used trim. Also will the total includes second run ,or will the first run be enough to extract all trichomes by extending soaking time. Thanks again.
+Donald Griffin I usually dont ever mention a return due to everyones material they use is different and have a few that go on every word I say so when they dont get a return as well I do they freak out and start calling names and bashing the equipment and stuff. and you can follow the directions they give you so you can weigh your butane and extractor and know the limits to put in. hope this helps and sorry I didnt mention returns. and also all strains and even plants run different and get different returns
the mini varies the simple unit uses one can and it goes up from there when you upgrade the instructions will tell you the weight that is needed of butane and all cans of butane have different weights so you will have to follow the instructions and weights for the extractor and upgrades that you have or gonna get
Note to Millennials, the video is less than 20 minutes long. How hard can that be? You can also be checking you phone while watching the video to make the absolute best use of your precious time. Then there is your Cheetos stash you could be dipping into, completing your trifecta...cause nugs make you soooo hungry.
Hello, I'm a Michigan medical marijuana patient. I'm interested in constructing a DIY closed loop extractor. While ive gotten a lot of useful info off your channel, I need some direct consulting on the build. Willing to pay within reason for your expertise. Not sure how to get a hold of you, but if this message reaches you, please get back with me and we can arrange the rest. Thanks..
the order page is a clusterfuck..... when you go to recovery, there is not much need to pull vacuum on the first source tank for recovery.. it is full of pure butane gas already and is only waiting to see some cooling .. Run 2 or 3 batches then dump the thing...
18matts a mixture of 90 to 10 is ok and thats 90 butane and 10 propane. propane has high pressure possibilities. i guess its up to the tech, but the with the mini id just go with butane
18matts a mixture of 90 to 10 is ok and thats 90 butane and 10 propane. propane has high pressure possibilities. i guess its up to the tech, but the with the mini id just go with butane
Jeff Jr could be a number of thing but the most important is the material you put in, then also if you using dry ice or not (and yes it does make a difference). also if your able get a small ball valve for your mini so your butane has a chance to really take effect for a few minutes. also make sure you top off the the tank after every use it needs to be full before every run to make a good extraction. hope this helps but please remember the minis wont produce the way the bigger units do because of the amount of material your using. also try to remember if you put bad material in it and except it to produce a great end product thats not gonna happen, but you put in fire you will get fire back. the ball valve should help it soak some more and try the other tips. hope all this helps and would love to hear if they help
I built my own 8 years ago. The systems are easy to put together. If you can tighten weld and some math skills. 3rd of the price even with better ball value than the fucking shitty ones he is using
this thing, that thing, you know. its really small, that's all you said over and over, very hard to watch/uninformative, I cant believe people are asking you questions...
You should vacuum before you chill to avoid condensation inside the closed loop
I know I would...
Pull a deep enough and long enough vacuum... any water or condensation will sublimate... and there won’t be any moisture.
@@nsboost lol, ya really
@@jacklegminercanada3866 I’m a HVACR technician. So funny thing about vacuum is... is under vacuum, the freezing point of anything raises. (Kinda like the radiator in your car being under pressure, which raises the boiling point).
Do you have a vacuum pump? Put a shot of water in a glass and put it under vacuum. You can freeze it at room temperature.
In HVAC there is a concern in the community if you pull a vacuum on a refrigeration system TOO fast you will freeze any moisture in the system. Well in a small blasting tube, you IMMEDIATELY pull that small space into a DEEP vacuum.... and any light moisture is going to freeze. Pulling a vacuum before or after probably will produce near identical results either way,
So though “pulling a vacuum before freezing” is logical, the fact is you probably froze any moisture in the tube when you put a deep vacuum on it (in seconds) anyways.
And yes... you hold a deep vacuum long enough, the ice will sublimate. It’s physics.
@@nsboost I have a robinair 2 stage. Haven't used it really. Just to distill isopropanol.
Great point about small unit and the atmosphere in your lines. Considering the size of the tanks the atmosphere in the hose would be a high percentage of the volume
Just got a mini with splatter platter and sight port havent used it yet waiting on vacum pump coming cant wait great vid thanks peace
so did u use it yet?
I’ve worked on Air conditioning systems most my life. This equipment and the vacuum process of a closed loop system is incredibly familiar to me
Unless you worked in Europe, you probably didn't do much work with recovering hydrocarbons. Or maybe you did. The US doesn't have much r600/r600a system to work on.
@@jonosterman2878lol how is recovering refrigerant any different other than the flammability aspect ?
well done great yeild , i wonder does the wax fuck up the taste thats the worst i hate lipids and waxes...
Hello did I see a Pei in the back-Ground? Great content
well done bro it some times amazes me how much oil i get some times off of a trim run we have 3 rosin presses and some times i prefure to blast my pucks if ther extrs sticky,and i have to say its unreal how great the quality comes ou t . if i hjad the whole closed loop collection vessel and the other tanks as well i have it soon as well .... ps bang up job its the trash we turn to gold
That's a nice little rig! Thanks for sharing. I've been slowly building up my system using your discount code! Just got a dexaing column in this week. 👍👍
I have this now.. double the size column planning on running about 1,200 ml worth of butane through it
Please, where can I find written material explaining how this CO2 extraction process is done?
Was this a new system for you? I've been using it for apx 8 years you need to be careful with recovery your oil will travel over with the solvent if you aren't careful
Good job neighbor lets grow 💪🏾🌲
im impressed, if those things had a little shatter plate on the bottom to make the pour out cleaner and less scrapping
They do offer that splatter platter for extra. I think a 4x4 spool, platter, and extra gasket and clamp would run a little over $100
Shoot it, dry it, bake it. BHO isn't complicated, this loop is.
You should have left a description or a link to this product
hi , thanks great vid , if you use high grade nugs would you wash the nugs twice or is one pass enough ?
you could but id do it at different times do your first run then put aside then do the second so you can see the difference.
Hiw many ice you use ?
pull the vac, seal it, THEN chill down the vessel to achieve true maximum-possible vacuum. Trust me (test it and see!), the resulting vacuum effect will go beyond the maximum pull of the vacuum pump by itself. Whereas vacuuming the vessel once it's already chilled (as shown in the video) will result in a vacuum only as deep as the pump can deliver by itself.
I'm a chemist, so I want to explain things a bit here. While you would be correct that heating the vessel while pumping the vacuum and then chilling after would produce a harder vacuum it is actually pointless in this scenario because the vacuum itself goes away the second you add the butane. It is not the actual vacuum that is important, the only important part is that only butane gas is in the chamber and no air, which itself exists at high pressure not low pressure.
The reason for this is that air, when in contact with the cold surface of the receiving vessel (the one in the dry ice) wouldn't do anything special other than become cold air. Butane gas however as it gets cold will condense into liquid pulling in more butane gas from the source vessel in the process. Therefore if you have too much air mixed in with butane this process slows down and it takes longer to move from one vessel to the next. But once the process starts there is no vacuum it is all at high pressure. So there is no actual benefit from producing a hard vacuum in the first step.
+Jeffrey Phillips Freeman so how exactly would you recommend doing it
I saw the cooling as a waste of time but pulling a vacuum on this system with what I would assume is trimmings is going to take some time as the moisture comes out of the product.. What kind of time is needed at this point?
ViralTuber how much butain should a 6"×4" pot hold?
You are so want to pull the vacuum before you chill
When it's chilling with no vacuum the atmosphere will create ice and the ice will not vacuum out common sense
Great video ditty! I need to look into one of those.😊👍✌
My problem with the larger one, the 135g mini extractor, it says in the description that it only can use one can of butane max, that's not enough to extract it all, it will take more than a can to get through all that material. I assume it will take like 3-4 cans.
+kody “sorrynotsorry” Frase under vacuum apparently not. i think thats what i heard... bc i thought that too! .... but i think when you lines, tank and the material columb is under full vac it doesnt need all that extra... but im no CLS expert
1 can doesn't even go through a large blaster. The rule has always been 1oz per can. I have 8 oz blaster that works like a charm.
Just shake!
99.97% Anhydrous alcohol rinses the collection chamber out nicely, and evaporates off with no residue. Really puts the shatter in the result as well :)
It you don't have a vacuum oven is there any reason why you could not just pull a vacuum on the collection chamber and warm that up in a water bath? It seems like essentially the same thing.
Rational Bushcraft it is🖒
1. It's still only safe when outside.
2. Dry ice is 3x more expensive than butane; why save it?
Sweet I might upgrade my collection container to the splatter platter model and use my other container as second Butane Tank down the road.
what kind of vacuum pump is that oil or oil less if it uses oil do you have any special filters or anything on it. also how often do you change the oil in the pump?
thanks for great video!!!
you should vac it down then chill it, if you chill the tank with the valve open you will create condensation in your tank
What do you mean dewaxed?
You did very good!!!!
Good video sir. Question, I could I also put a small amount of Everclear in the bottom of the Collection Container to help the extract slide out of the container easier? I've seen someone do it before didn't know if it would help.
Nicholas Hamil sure after you have extracted you can use everclear to help it out and now they just upgraded the mini a lil bigger and with splatter platters for a easy pour
awesome video man . liking your videos here in the uk
Where did you get your carbon filter / what kind for your pump
Ok I know I'm to late and way to high but I could have used more explaining twored the end there after you shut of the vaxume and the rambaling made me a little confused but good work
Can you keep using the reclaimed Butane for more runs or is it good for only one?
This vid is badass I like all the extra talking and commentary I am a processor in the Oklahoma medical market. Cannabis heals. Love your vids!
nice set up dirty great gear to beats blasting and praying u don't burn down the garage with a hot plate is that a ez baked oven :)
hey dirty!! I was wondering how many cans you put to the butane canister to begin with?
So im considering using a regular open butane extraction system, what is the benefit of the closed loop? I presume better yield? Seems like heaps more expensive equipment.
you dont have to buy butane you can reuse it over and over in a closed system
is this the ablaze mini system? how is it and can you use co2?
Could I put my 112g tube on that set up if I stay under 5 cans / amount of pounds in the recover tank?
what is that machine after the extraction, when he talking about cleaning the kit. is it like an oven?
Who makes these
I know you posted this video some time ago but how much butane to matieral do you use. One can per 45 grams always?
is there any way to let the material soak in the solvent?
just leave it in there for how ever long you want
no need, the majority of the actives are removed extremely quickly.
I got no plastic caps with our mini from best value vacs?
Hey dirty I was wondering how much material hold? It looks perfect for me.
+Medicated Fish never mind... I just watched it again LOL. I love this mini.
Whats the best way to get a hold of you dirtybong?!
whats exact model used for this???????????????
Thank you for this informative video lesson
Talking in circles. Atmosphere is gone within seconds of turning on pump. No leaks means no loss of pressure. Goddamn
Do you need dry ice. I know dry ice would be colder than regular ice.
+Donald Griffin you dont have to have dry ice but things will go alot slower like 10 times slower lol. a run with dry ice will take around a hour where a run with just ice can go longer then six hours. the minis will go a lil faster but dry ice will help everything run alot smoother and faster. hope this helps
Thanks for sharing dirty, great video
MrNewmanRay thanks for watching
how much cfm pump do you use
Can you put parchment paper in the collection tank so you dont leave a gram of oil on the bottom? Seems a waste to me and a pain in the ass if you need to try to scrape that out.
bump or oil slick paper
I purchased this unit and Im experiencing pressure loss. leaks out of where the line threads onto the unit. and once it leaked from the spatter platter. what am I doing wrong !! lol thank you
+AmerikanPBT i doubt your doing much of anything wrong, alot could have happened during shipping. to make sure I dont have any mishaps during a run I do a dry run/distill to test and clean. before you do a run with material do one with out and when your done wipe out the empty equipment with a tack cloth to clean the mystery oil and you can test everything at the same time so you will be killing to birds with the same stone. hope this helps and will try to help more if needed
try some thread tape, gas line thread tape.
this was informative but you didn't distill the tane? other than yield increase and easier terp preservation, this stuff is no better than open blasted bho.
Exactly!
How is it distilled
Hi DBW food for thought love and peace 😊
You need a digital vacuum gage to show you how many inches of mercury you are pulling to ensure you are as close to 30 as possible.
when that pumps stops making all that racket u just wait like 2 min and u are better than -29
What are you using as a solvent? Butane or is it safe enough to run co2?
+Braxton Wanner butane
Where can I buy a collection vessel from?
check out #BestValueVacs.com and ask for josh or grant and they will get you what you need
How will I know when reclaimed butane tank needs more/less tane?
hey great video where can i get the equipment on video
+Donovan Garcia on the BVV site that I mention on the vid
Love Brett!!
Can you use co2?
Do you have to purge this at all, or bring it up to 240 degrees Fahrenheit for THCA? Nice vid man! Cheers!
what are you making?
Could you tell me where you got your carbon filter for the vac?
Just curious Dirty, how much dry ice did you use on this run? I've just brought the system the next size up and can't wait to run it, just need to know a rough amount of dry ice I need to order. Cheers bro
with the mini 10 to 20 ponds will do great and get pellets if you can, the block will work too just more work lol you can get away with 10 but always good yo jave extra
+dirtybongwater grows meds thanks for setting me strait brother, your a star. Cheers
This guy has the best vacuum chamber (between his ears)
Why ?
what was your final yield of product?
ajradel that was over a yr ago but i believe a lil over 6grams
yea im wondering if i could do several runs with the mini or just spend the extra on the 1lb.
ajradel id go with the bigger scalable system due to you can always build it bigger if needed the mini is great for testing product
not a bad return
BTW, you forgot to mention your return. I know that it depends on material quality, and you used trim. Also will the total includes second run ,or will the first run be enough to extract all trichomes by extending soaking time. Thanks again.
+Donald Griffin I usually dont ever mention a return due to everyones material they use is different and have a few that go on every word I say so when they dont get a return as well I do they freak out and start calling names and bashing the equipment and stuff. and you can follow the directions they give you so you can weigh your butane and extractor and know the limits to put in. hope this helps and sorry I didnt mention returns. and also all strains and even plants run different and get different returns
+dirtybongwater grows meds Thanks for answering the first question, its more important than return I agree. How many cans of Tane needed for run.
the mini varies the simple unit uses one can and it goes up from there when you upgrade the instructions will tell you the weight that is needed of butane and all cans of butane have different weights so you will have to follow the instructions and weights for the extractor and upgrades that you have or gonna get
Has anybody made it through the full video? JFC! I bet people do not pick up his phone calls
what?
@@AlexiasPlaylist He's saying he talks too much.
Jerry Berkey lmao
1.25x playback is key. lol
Interesting set-up though.
Note to Millennials, the video is less than 20 minutes long. How hard can that be? You can also be checking you phone while watching the video to make the absolute best use of your precious time. Then there is your Cheetos stash you could be dipping into, completing your trifecta...cause nugs make you soooo hungry.
Hello, I'm a Michigan medical marijuana patient. I'm interested in constructing a DIY closed loop extractor. While ive gotten a lot of useful info off your channel, I need some direct consulting on the build. Willing to pay within reason for your expertise. Not sure how to get a hold of you, but if this message reaches you, please get back with me and we can arrange the rest. Thanks..
the order page is a clusterfuck..... when you go to recovery, there is not much need to pull vacuum on the first source tank for recovery.. it is full of pure butane gas already and is only waiting to see some cooling .. Run 2 or 3 batches then dump the thing...
can you use propane?
18matts a mixture of 90 to 10 is ok and thats 90 butane and 10 propane. propane has high pressure possibilities. i guess its up to the tech, but the with the mini id just go with butane
18matts a mixture of 90 to 10 is ok and thats 90 butane and 10 propane. propane has high pressure possibilities. i guess its up to the tech, but the with the mini id just go with butane
WOW this nikka talks SO SO MUCH!! I just cannot sit through another min
aye was that a real dog in the background?
You need to be at 500 micron vacuum. 20,000 µm per 1HG vacuum
Hey Dirty, how much do these little guys go for. I'm really interested in getting this its the perfect size
MrNewmanRay I think they go for 560 but check the site and dont forget the discount code DIRTY
Awesome
Does anyone know what this guy is talking about? Good grief
This guy sounds just like the Raven man
How much is that system . good bit for trim . Safe 👽
Mark Howell I believe they are 580 on the site
dirtybongwater grows meds
Make brownies out of pot
I want to learn how to make brownies out of pot
D0mom
thanks for sharing cheers
AWLLL RWIGHT EVERYBUDDY!!
How to talk about something that is simple but make it sound really complicated. Enjoy...
Hey Dirty, would you know why I'm only getting back a little return and the material is still dry? I have the mini. Thanks.
Jeff Jr could be a number of thing but the most important is the material you put in, then also if you using dry ice or not (and yes it does make a difference). also if your able get a small ball valve for your mini so your butane has a chance to really take effect for a few minutes. also make sure you top off the the tank after every use it needs to be full before every run to make a good extraction. hope this helps but please remember the minis wont produce the way the bigger units do because of the amount of material your using. also try to remember if you put bad material in it and except it to produce a great end product thats not gonna happen, but you put in fire you will get fire back. the ball valve should help it soak some more and try the other tips. hope all this helps and would love to hear if they help
thank you so much for the info man
Tossed out like 2 gs
19 mins of babble !
👍👍👍
People get excited making videos. It can be frustrating but just get used to jumping forward and being understanding. Blessings friend.
Yes - a charitable attitude, JA. But at the 6-minute mark I still had not a clue what he was on about, absolute babble, I gave up
Ima make some dabs now
I learned it’s very small
Nice
Great vid bud
mario juana thanks for watching, for some reason it always makes my day when you leave a comment on my vids thanks again
I built my own 8 years ago. The systems are easy to put together. If you can tighten weld and some math skills. 3rd of the price even with better ball value than the fucking shitty ones he is using
this thing, that thing, you know. its really small, that's all you said over and over, very hard to watch/uninformative, I cant believe people are asking you questions...
ben anders
I was going to make a comment saying ... um it's small you know so very little atmosphere in there... You beat me to it lmao
I watched all the way to the end hoping he would give he returns, but what was I thanking.
Hahahaha
@@barryfields2964bro 5 years later and I’m still waiting…
please stop doing two minutes lead ins every time you change the shot lol.
TURN OFF THE PUMP!!
Not a bad pull eehhh
112 for 24hrx14days
watch at 2.0 speed after you skip everything
You know you don't have to be so nervous bro. You can't even talk straight.