Im a man and I wish women would stop saying “ Why she can’t keep a man” about other black women. Y’all tear each other down so much that’s it’s ridiculous! She so casually said that because women say stuff like that on the regularly like it’s nothing. Men never say that about other men
Yeah maybe she doesn't WANT to keep them! Sometimes you find out after the fact that you need and have to get rid of them and don't want to keep them as they are not keepers! I had to tell my granny that regarding myself 😁
I agree, it bothers me too. I cringe when I hear that from black women. It implies something is wrong with the woman because she doesn't stay in a relationship that doesn't work.
@@kathyb3021 And a lot of them that are saying this are in dead end relationships so I guess that means you should settle for less also just because they are🤔 No thanks I'd rather be single and happy than with someone that is making me miserable or unhappy just to say I am in a relationship or I have a man🙄
Nah... Lost me with how nosey this broad is, and why it's her business, or anyone else's. l don't care to know other people's, celebrity or not, business... Period!!! She's worse than Wendy. Some people seem to thrive on other people's short-comings. I guess it makes them feel better about their own fucked-up-ness. 😥
Aside from what Lisa’s father was doing in his private life , his death was a loss to the community being that he provided jobs and opportunities for others.
That's why am big on consistency...you can't live a different life on the streets and another in private. Charity begins at home, clean your home before you go help people clean theirs...
It really is sad that the normal here in Chicago is to bite the hand that feeds many.. It’s been a shithole in that regard for a long time here in Chicago
@Yvonne Blake Da Brat mother must have been one of the many girlfriends Lisa Rae mother was talking about. Her mother stated that she was still married to him when he was murdered.
Exactly you can't keep a man that don't want to be kept. And if the man is putting you through a whole bunch of bs why would you stay? Its all about self love not "keeping a man" I bet all the women who think like that put up with a whole lot of mess from infidelity to abuse physical, mental and emotional all for the sake of looks and "keeping a man"..
@@DC-ps1xf Yep! I have a friend whose daughter is constantly cheated on and verbally abused by her 'man'. She gets upset all the time by this. I asked her whether she thought she deserved better. Her mother jumped in, telling her that at least she had a man, and to just put up with it to avoid being 'alone'. I just shut up after that because daughter was conditioned by that kind of thinking, even though she was always sad being with him. 🤔
1) Iyanla isn’t a therapist. She has a degree in law. 2) Iyanla is a life coach, who’s job is to hold you accountable as you reach your life goals. 3) A therapist deals with the emotional gunshot wounds that you put a band aid on. None of them are getting their lives fixed🤷🏾♀️
She has a Masters in spiritual Psychology ma'am and is an ordained minister along with being a lawyer. PLEASE RESEARCH! Vanzant holds a Juris Doctor degree from the City University of New York School of Law and a Master's degreefrom the University of Santa Monica (USM), Center for the Study and Practice of Spiritual Psychology. She currently resides in Upper Marlboro, Maryland. She is also an ordained New Thought minister.
Purposely hurting your wife and daughters mother by cheating and abusing her, makes you a bad husband AND father. The mother was raising his daughter in a household full of hurt, anger and pain caused by his actions. That makes you a bad parent to have your child raised in a environment like that.
@@edie6949 I disagree, life isn’t black and white. I also feel we are judging people by today’s standards. We sit on our high horses of privilege predicated on the sacrifices by others.
What men don't know is that when you cheat on your wife, you curse yr daughters to be maltreated. Nothing in the universe can be hidden. And energy follows the most familiar path.
Yes, but they won't accept any help because they are too busy not being accountable. 🤦🏾♀️ They both seem to believe the reality show hype...that they are the 💩 and everything is their way or no way. Smh
These women all come from reality tv. Then go to a reality tv show for real life issues with a "spiritual dula". Iyanla is very good at what she does. However, these women need professional help with a clinician. Go to a therapist in private. To help you with your real life issues. Their expectations are off. It's a tv show. Of course some of what is going on is playing up to the cameras for ratings. And they do that a little bit while still maintaining Iyanla's integrity as a healer. But make it clear, she is not a psychotherapist. That is what they really need in real life.
Those marriages back then they stayed married but divorced in their head and heart... My Momma is 1 one of those women married 53 years lived married 3 years of the 53.... that’s just the way it was back then.🤷🏽♀️
LOL 😂😂 I laughed WAY to loud and hard at this comment! He would have to catch me baby. His arms will get tired going around corners and moving stuff out the way because ill be putting chair and everything in his path lol! He'll come around a corner and get hit with a iron skillet but not before i record his behind for evidence. One thing I know you better not let him get his hands on you LOL! People in wheel chairs got strong arms.
She didn’t kill him for jumping at her. She was already plotting hence the brothers arrival and her placing the gun in her robe pocket before the handicapped man “jumped” at her .
@@lalamurray3689 On Iyanla Lisaraye's Mother said she would have to have Lisaraye ask her Dad to give her Mom money for food etc. Iyanla told them Lisaraye was the other Woman.. Lisaraye and her Dad's relationship was a trip. They had a pack of one dies before the other, that the one left would kill themselves... I don't know what type of Father Daughter relationship they had.....
Girl, she did that because he wasn't having anything else to do with her, She felt that was her only option. I was incarcerated with her!@@lalamurray3689
Listening to them they are talking crazy you have to work on everything that is going on in there life and that is what she is supposed to do. Neff and shy don't really want help they need prayer
So many accounts have been reported about Ms. Vanzant. I don't know why people keep expecting her to really help them. Sadly it's more to expose for ratings than to really help. This is equivalent to HURT. I would never seek her "assistance." She's caustic.
@@ATLJazzy the ppl who complain are the ppl who didn't come to do their part. How long are adults suppose to have ppl baby them about their issues? Some ppl aren't looking for healing they are looking for pity.
It didn’t help that the momma asked LisaRaye if she wished she had been shot instead of her dad and LisaRaye’s answer was yes!!! That’s some cold ish!!!
@kwf kwf I also think she would do and accept anything to keep her from going back to Mississippi. I had an aunt that was just like that. She always thought people were dumb for not leaving home. Once her husband was finished with her, she was glad to see her siblings in Mississippi again.
Wait... this dude was in a wheelchair all that time being a cheater and making babies?!?!? Lawd those were some weak minded women ... and he was abusive 😭
As a Mental Health and Wellness Counselor... Iyanla purpose is to pull out of them what is necessary to heal. They resist, therefore it’s like a tug of war!! She’s a bit deep and sometimes hard core but in my opinion, it works if they allow it too!!
Soooo True!!! It's never easy, to face and deal with a deep, hurtful pain...my drug counselor asked me..how you know your daughter still loves you, after all you put her through? I went home and asked her, she was 10 or 11 then, she told me she didn't love me sometimes, I had hurt her!!! She is 26 now and to this day, she does not respect me, loves me, but that pain...it still affects her TODAY
@@caroljordan8777 , I respect you sharing that. I've been in the same position with three adult sons. The love and forgiveness is there, Thank God, but that pain still lingers.
@@MistyEye555 when did she claim to be God? There are more misplaced assumptions thrown around tho.. usually the ppl pushing back to the treatments offered are usually in deep denial. & Definitely let's not forget they chose to sign up for this. Iyanla Didn't force them to be on the show regardless of who reached out. Plus producers be messing with things behind the scenes.... At the end of all of this shallow cattiness from the females video, they still acknowledge the fact that they got deep rooted stuff that needs to be dealt with. And Iyanla said you might night like her and always makes that clear and highlights it when it's more to it, yet they still chose to be on the show. Most often times the benefits are overshadowed because more time is spent on pushback. The ratings come from their own bad reactions to hearing the truth about themselves. Another thing to not forget is that these 'celebrities' who come to Iyanla have most times a lot of ego on their shoulder to fight through before they can even scratch the surface of their deep rooted problems. Notice the husband, after admitting to the fakeness the regularly displayed on tv & lived in, had a completely different experience... Every Blessing ain't going to come see you in a gift box & a bow of choice.
@@caroljordan8777 I hope and pray that you and your daughter are able to establish a better relationship. At least you acknowledged the fact you hurt her. Mines on the other hand doesn't see anything wrong yet I'm still here.
Right! He had 2 children by two different women and a wife all while he was living with a different woman. This reeks of all kinds of other behaviors/issues from this man.
All that shit talking n fighting they did on reality show but you want Iyanla to pussyfoot around and spare your feelings. If you can dish it you should be able to take it, they have a hard time receiving the truth. Both have been extra so going on this show after being prep, counseling and meetings I believe they wanted to be a memborable guest n was not looking for help, but another reality show or check.
Flings ended being forgotten about but when you take on mistress you are making her feel like a second wife... You create the havoc that ends up coming on your family being selfish and self absorbed...
Thats not true. My cousin is Rays son and he has another son and three more daughters outside of Lisa and Brat. It all came out when Ray died and all of the assets had to be divided. 😂😂😂
I remember this so vividly because it happened in y dad's neighborhood. Lisa was a freshman when I was a senior at Aquinas Catholic High School. Lisa lived somewhere near my father's house (who lives in Pill Hill). My sister lived with my father so Lisa and my sister knew each other. She's the one who told me about Lisa's father. One day when my sister and I were at the cemetery visiting our grandparents Lisa was at the same cemetery with a camera crew visiting her father's grave.
Is Pill Hill still a nice area? I don't know why I thought she went to Academy of our Lady, on 95th Street. There aren't any Black girls Catholic High Schools anymore in Chicago.
@@luvingg, I didn't compare. I can't stand the Kardashians. My point is, people are always saying how the Kardashians go after only men with money, but that is what they're used to. Their father was a high-powered lawyer. By the same token, we see now that LisaRaye grew up in the lap of luxury; with a silver spoon in her mouth, so it's understandable that she would seek a man with means.
Why do y’all say she goes for men with means? The only person I know she dated with money is the Prince or King of Turks and Caicos. Where did you all get that info about her? Was she on a show that showed this?
@@kat64470, her first husband was Tony Martin, NFL player. Her second husband was the king. She is rumored to have messed with Gary Payton (NBA player), Terry Norris (boxer) and Datari Turner (film producer).
He was very handsome! He even had a lot of swag appeal even in his chair! He was a genius at making alot of money, handsome, with style! I can see how he " macked" up the ladies!👍😝😜 He did much from his chair, what most walking men can't do even if they had 4 legs!!!!
Believe what you want, but if a paraplegic person get you i their grips its over. They have great upper body strength. I had an uncle who was a paraplegic and would whoop some ass man or woman
Neffe and Shay were doing 📺 and what Iyanla said bout Neffe was the truth. Now Iyanla did apologize to her and clearly Neffe have NOT forgiven her. Shay you were tryna run her show and you could NOT.
Girl, I never knew you before, but I know you now. You broke this all the way down. I am now hitting the like, subscribe and the notification bell. Great job Sis! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Iyanla may be rough around the edges but she gets the job done. She is passionate about her ministry and does not play. She prays diligently for her guest to get better. However, everything is not for everyone.
Vanzant holds a Juris Doctor degree from the City University of New York School of Law and a Master's degreefrom the University of Santa Monica (USM), Center for the Study and Practice of Spiritual Psychology. She is also an ordained New Thought minister.
Probably like people saying Stevie Wonder can see...like there's not "legal" blind vs total blindness. He could've been classified "parapalegic" because he couldn't stand or walk unaided or for a certain distance. Adrenaline gets going, he could probably get up to whoop tail.
Outstanding research! Your comment about the father is true in the sense of Lisa and DaBrat relationships with partners. Often times I think that women have high expectations of their partners, which is fine in my book. I told the man that I was dating for years that, "I thought men suppose to take care of women?" He said "really!"
I applaud the whole family for coming forward! People will always have negative comments, but I am praying for healing and deliverance for LisaRay family.
If You Watch Lisa Raye Show "The Real McCoy" That Came Out 10 Years In 2010 On TV One. That Show Was The Blueprint For This Iyanla Fix My Life Episode.
Lisa Ray is materialistic. Seems it started from her dad giving her things, as a way to use her against her mom. She was used as the "other woman" to hurt her mom, but Lisa Ray doesn't see it. She also seems to have been into guys just like her dad, but she wasn't ready for the abuse that came with it. Therefore, her daughter is trying to walk in her shoes, but Lisa Ray calls her lazy because she doesn't have the same "hustle" that she does.
@@destinykhan3745 If that is the case, why does she allow her daughter to live with her? There is nothing wrong with with nice things, but I said what I said. You do not have to like it. I watched her on Iyanla, and I stand on what I said. It does not make her a bad person, but it is what it is.
@@taneeshathomas2090 He was murdered in 1988. On LisaRaye’s Unsung, she tells a story of trying to teach him how to walk. She was 4-5 years old when she actually REALIZED that her Daddy truly couldn’t walk.
I loved Shelby Lowery's comments. He spoke of Iylana's team praying for him and Nefeteria while on her show. That's beautiful. And he described Iylana Fix My Life, her team as a ministry, not as a TV show. That was a blessing to hear!
@kiki d You’re the pot, calling the kettle black! You’re critiquing someone’s spelling, while your grammar could use some help too. Do you not know how to type a sentence? Where are your punctuations? What I see are a series of run-on sentences, commas instead of periods. If I didn’t know the placement of said commas and periods, I wouldn’t understand what you’re saying. It seems to me you need flash cards too and a book on diction. Nevertheless, like you, who am I to critique you? I am no one. Therefore, if there are misspellings, punctuation and grammatical errors in the comments, it is, what it is. This is not English 101.
After reviewing this clip, here is my take when it comes to Iyanla and the process she administers with her clients on the show. What works for some people does not work for everyone, when her clients come on the show they are generally dealing with past trauma among themselves, each person needs to feel validation, and to feel heard. There are different tools that can be used in therapy as an approach to help people become more self-aware. This also has to be done with mindfulness oh, so that the Therapeutic Alliance between her and the clients it's not disrupted. The fundamental ingredients when handling these type of group sessions is to be mindful that you address issues differently with each individual. There is a tool in therapy called confrontation you have to administer that very selectively, and respectively with the client when you sent the resistance trying to help them become self aware. It must be done without diminishing the client's feelings and also your own empathy need to be present when you are listening to the client. In general, in therapy you don't advise, you may guide, the biggest skill in therapy is active listening.
No, she had a personal.interest in that matter. She would not have inherited anything. I hope the protested that. How would he not leave everything to his own children?
Im a man and I wish women would stop saying “ Why she can’t keep a man” about other black women. Y’all tear each other down so much that’s it’s ridiculous! She so casually said that because women say stuff like that on the regularly like it’s nothing. Men never say that about other men
That part made me cringe. I can't support that mindset
I agree we need to support other women's right to Love and be loved back!! Heck , maybe even play cupid!
Yeah maybe she doesn't WANT to keep them! Sometimes you find out after the fact that you need and have to get rid of them and don't want to keep them as they are not keepers! I had to tell my granny that regarding myself 😁
I agree, it bothers me too. I cringe when I hear that from black women. It implies something is wrong with the woman because she doesn't stay in a relationship that doesn't work.
@@kathyb3021
And a lot of them that are saying this are in dead end relationships so I guess that means you should settle for less also just because they are🤔
No thanks I'd rather be single and happy than with someone that is making me miserable or unhappy just to say I am in a relationship or I have a man🙄
Am I the only one who watched this longer than they cared too?!!?
Me...lol
Lmao! ✋
I lasted 5 minutes😂😂
Yep, and I'm leaving now! 🚪🚶🏾♀️
Nah... Lost me with how nosey this broad is, and why it's her business, or anyone else's. l don't care to know other people's, celebrity or not, business... Period!!! She's worse than Wendy. Some people seem to thrive on other people's short-comings. I guess it makes them feel better about their own fucked-up-ness. 😥
Aside from what Lisa’s father was doing in his private life , his death was a loss to the community being that he provided jobs and opportunities for others.
💯
That is the missing message in all of this..memories don't live like people do 😕
That's why am big on consistency...you can't live a different life on the streets and another in private. Charity begins at home, clean your home before you go help people clean theirs...
It really is sad that the normal here in Chicago is to bite the hand that feeds many.. It’s been a shithole in that regard for a long time here in Chicago
@@chubbykitten13 Absolutely...😔
Lisa Raye Daddy was handsome. No wonder he loved the ladies because the ladies obviously loved him.
Sheila didn’t love him too much, she murdered him
@@DarwinLpayne It's a thin line between love and hate, they wrote a song about it!!! Like to hear 👂🏾it, hear it go... 🎶🎶
@@librasoul1705 LOL, stop! Lawd.
@Yvonne Blake Da Brat mother must have been one of the many girlfriends Lisa Rae mother was talking about. Her mother stated that she was still married to him when he was murdered.
Yesss Good Looking Handsome man
Gotta say...don’t like the framing of “can’t keep a man” as if these men are the prize. Let’s stop speaking like this.
💯💪🏾
Exactly you can't keep a man that don't want to be kept. And if the man is putting you through a whole bunch of bs why would you stay? Its all about self love not "keeping a man" I bet all the women who think like that put up with a whole lot of mess from infidelity to abuse physical, mental and emotional all for the sake of looks and "keeping a man"..
@@DC-ps1xf Yep! I have a friend whose daughter is constantly cheated on and verbally abused by her 'man'. She gets upset all the time by this. I asked her whether she thought she deserved better. Her mother jumped in, telling her that at least she had a man, and to just put up with it to avoid being 'alone'. I just shut up after that because daughter was conditioned by that kind of thinking, even though she was always sad being with him. 🤔
@@cakewalk3094 she doesn't have the best interest at heart for her daughter and thats sad. Hopefully she can break away from that.
@@cakewalk3094 Damn 🤔
1) Iyanla isn’t a therapist. She has a degree in law. 2) Iyanla is a life coach, who’s job is to hold you accountable as you reach your life goals. 3) A therapist deals with the emotional gunshot wounds that you put a band aid on. None of them are getting their lives fixed🤷🏾♀️
Facts
I respect that
Dr. Carey Yazeed
Speak the truth ! Yes !
Exactly 💖💯
She has a Masters in spiritual Psychology ma'am and is an ordained minister along with being a lawyer. PLEASE RESEARCH!
Vanzant holds a Juris Doctor degree from the City University of New York School of Law and a Master's degreefrom the University of Santa Monica (USM), Center for the Study and Practice of Spiritual Psychology. She currently resides in Upper Marlboro, Maryland. She is also an ordained New Thought minister.
Lisa’s father was the love of her life. Sometimes you can be a bad husband and a good father.
Purposely hurting your wife and daughters mother by cheating and abusing her, makes you a bad husband AND father.
The mother was raising his daughter in a household full of hurt, anger and pain caused by his actions. That makes you a bad parent to have your child raised in a environment like that.
@@edie6949 I disagree, life isn’t black and white. I also feel we are judging people by today’s standards. We sit on our high horses of privilege predicated on the sacrifices by others.
@@rachelderenoncourt3881
I hear you...
I'm not judging anyone..
My comment and opinion is Only based on what was in This video and the Iylana episode.
Strange but true!
Very Very True
Lisa is looking for her father. Until she deals with her issues, she will never open her heart to anyone.
Good call
Velicia Williams...True So True, Married & Divorce~Happy Holidays~Stay Safe
@@anngoodman9454 You as well. Thank you Ann.😊
So true
Not!!!!
She's telling this story in a way that holds your interest! Not like some people who keep stopping every 5 seconds!!
Yes, but can’t she properly pronounce Zanzibar is beyond me😑
These women didn’t want healing and they can’t handle the truth. Therapy is a wonderful tool!!
Absolutely!!
They want healing, they just want their “truth” more.
They weren't ready.
Exactly. They need therapy. Separately, not group therapy.
Correct!
I thought Lisa looked just like her mom but sheesh, she looks a lot like her Dad too!
Yes they’re carbon copies of both of their parents‼️💟✝️ God
Bless the both of them because both of their parents are absolutely beautiful ‼️
@Kimhudgens. I found that ironically interesting and observed the same.
Yes 🙌🏾 ikr
@@bessieprince9186 s
Lmfao.. thank God for that. Let's be honest.. moma looks a little ruff 🤧
What men don't know is that when you cheat on your wife, you curse yr daughters to be maltreated. Nothing in the universe can be hidden. And energy follows the most familiar path.
Generation curses.....
Good advice, they need to repent.
right, the sins of the father falls upon the son
Facts 💯 smh 🙄
What happens when women cheat on their husbands? Are their sons cursed as well?
Lisa raye daddy was a handsome man.
Apparently a lot women thought so
Yes he was
Exactly. She gets her good looks from her dad..
Her mom is also very!! Beautiful!! so!!
Both strong genes
Neffy can not blame Iyanla for ruining her marriage. She ruined her own marriage. Her and Shay are both in of need therapy.
Yes Neffy had a wonderful husband
Yes, but they won't accept any help because they are too busy not being accountable. 🤦🏾♀️ They both seem to believe the reality show hype...that they are the 💩 and everything is their way or no way. Smh
Same thing I said
These women all come from reality tv. Then go to a reality tv show for real life issues with a "spiritual dula". Iyanla is very good at what she does. However, these women need professional help with a clinician. Go to a therapist in private. To help you with your real life issues. Their expectations are off. It's a tv show. Of course some of what is going on is playing up to the cameras for ratings. And they do that a little bit while still maintaining Iyanla's integrity as a healer. But make it clear, she is not a psychotherapist. That is what they really need in real life.
They went on thinking it was another reality show for them somewhere they can be seen!
Those marriages back then they stayed married but divorced in their head and heart... My Momma is 1 one of those women married 53 years lived married 3 years of the 53.... that’s just the way it was back then.🤷🏽♀️
The mother let this man beat her and he was in a wheelchair. 😂🤔 Ms. Katie is still allowing this man to control her from the grave.
Couldn’t have been me I woulda rolled his ass down the stairs😭 Lord forgive me lol
@@KyraKennedyHughes 😂
@@KyraKennedyHughes Me too 😂😅🤣
LOL 😂😂 I laughed WAY to loud and hard at this comment! He would have to catch me baby. His arms will get tired going around corners and moving stuff out the way because ill be putting chair and everything in his path lol! He'll come around a corner and get hit with a iron skillet but not before i record his behind for evidence. One thing I know you better not let him get his hands on you LOL! People in wheel chairs got strong arms.
@@Laswm4950 yo ass is crazy lol but I feel u
She didn’t kill him for jumping at her. She was already plotting hence the brothers arrival and her placing the gun in her robe pocket before the handicapped man “jumped” at her .
Right! I’m wondering why she did it though.. it’s hard to believe he was beating on her like that 🤔 and financially I’m sure she was good
Exactly I was about to say that, all that was a set up then looks like she killed another lover years later
@@lalamurray3689
On Iyanla Lisaraye's Mother said she would have to have Lisaraye ask her Dad to give her Mom money for food etc.
Iyanla told them Lisaraye was the other Woman..
Lisaraye and her Dad's relationship was a trip.
They had a pack of one dies before the other, that the one left would kill themselves...
I don't know what type of Father Daughter relationship they had.....
Girl, she did that because he wasn't having anything else to do with her, She felt that was her only option. I was incarcerated with her!@@lalamurray3689
She looks like her dad the most ! May he Rest In Peace 🙏🏾❤️
Iyanla can't fix what folks are not willing to acknowledge in themselves. Neffe & Shay are in denial. I hope Lisa Raye will be more successful.
Listening to them they are talking crazy you have to work on everything that is going on in there life and that is what she is supposed to do. Neff and shy don't really want help they need prayer
So many accounts have been reported about Ms. Vanzant. I don't know why people keep expecting her to really help them. Sadly it's more to expose for ratings than to really help. This is equivalent to HURT. I would never seek her "assistance." She's caustic.
@@ATLJazzy the ppl who complain are the ppl who didn't come to do their part. How long are adults suppose to have ppl baby them about their issues? Some ppl aren't looking for healing they are looking for pity.
@@FaithandNova I can see your point.
Moma still mad about the Daddy👀👀 Deep hurt !!!
Yes I’m like she has not forgiven that man! She has to heal to live her life
Yes she got that Ms E (braxton) type of hurt or mama Joyce
But she's taking it out on her daughter. Yeah, ol' boy did her wrong but her daughter had nothing to do with that.
Bless her heart. She’s stuck in a loop and bitterness has set in.
It didn’t help that the momma asked LisaRaye if she wished she had been shot instead of her dad and LisaRaye’s answer was yes!!! That’s some cold ish!!!
How in the hell are these women so terrified of a man that can't chase you down his words must have been extremely powerful
Afraid to lose the lifestyle/money that comes with HIM.....
Money and I’m sure he had his ppl
I don’t think he was always in a wheelchair.
@@clwxrf6007 don't matter
@kwf kwf I also think she would do and accept anything to keep her from going back to Mississippi. I had an aunt that was just like that. She always thought people were dumb for not leaving home. Once her husband was finished with her, she was glad to see her siblings in Mississippi again.
Wait... this dude was in a wheelchair all that time being a cheater and making babies?!?!? Lawd those were some weak minded women ... and he was abusive 😭
Would've pushed his butt right on out my life...
@@tanitrarobinson7477 it would have been just like the movie diary of a mad black woman the bathtub scene💯
@@PassportBrosAndBlondeManWeaves
(Gasp!!!) Oh no! Not the bathtub scene!! 😳
Lol I dnt think he was in wheelchair all that times sounds like it may of been the last 10 yrs or 15 yrs of his life
@@jazminrodriguez9026 On Unsung, LisaRaye said he was in the wheelchair her entire life.
Mr. Mccoy had a horrible death. I am so sorry for his family to loose him like that. God bless his soul.
Should have stuck with his wife. I bet he found out at the end that the grass wasn't greener on the other side.
You cannot help everyone. The thugs always bring you down.
@@kimson305I’m shocked a paraplegic was being so aggressive with the women in his life .
As a Mental Health and Wellness Counselor... Iyanla purpose is to pull out of them what is necessary to heal. They resist, therefore it’s like a tug of war!! She’s a bit deep and sometimes hard core but in my opinion, it works if they allow it too!!
Soooo True!!! It's never easy, to face and deal with a deep, hurtful pain...my drug counselor asked me..how you know your daughter still loves you, after all you put her through? I went home and asked her, she was 10 or 11 then, she told me she didn't love me sometimes, I had hurt her!!! She is 26 now and to this day, she does not respect me, loves me, but that pain...it still affects her TODAY
@@caroljordan8777 , I respect you sharing that. I've been in the same position with three adult sons. The love and forgiveness is there, Thank God, but that pain still lingers.
@@MistyEye555 when did she claim to be God? There are more misplaced assumptions thrown around tho.. usually the ppl pushing back to the treatments offered are usually in deep denial. & Definitely let's not forget they chose to sign up for this. Iyanla Didn't force them to be on the show regardless of who reached out. Plus producers be messing with things behind the scenes.... At the end of all of this shallow cattiness from the females video, they still acknowledge the fact that they got deep rooted stuff that needs to be dealt with. And Iyanla said you might night like her and always makes that clear and highlights it when it's more to it, yet they still chose to be on the show. Most often times the benefits are overshadowed because more time is spent on pushback. The ratings come from their own bad reactions to hearing the truth about themselves. Another thing to not forget is that these 'celebrities' who come to Iyanla have most times a lot of ego on their shoulder to fight through before they can even scratch the surface of their deep rooted problems. Notice the husband, after admitting to the fakeness the regularly displayed on tv & lived in, had a completely different experience... Every Blessing ain't going to come see you in a gift box & a bow of choice.
@@caroljordan8777 I hope and pray that you and your daughter are able to establish a better relationship. At least you acknowledged the fact you hurt her. Mines on the other hand doesn't see anything wrong yet I'm still here.
that's true but I dont think it should be on tv
Why would her daughter inherit the house, instead of one of his actual daughters?!
"She can't keep a man"?, i bet the ones that are talking does NOT have a man, just several Baby Daddies
Say dat, say dat!
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She looks like her father. And Da Brat looks like her mother. I was shock that her mother went through all those things. Lisa is beautiful .
They are not real blood sisters...that's the lie they keep telling...
Lisa is beautiful but da brat is prettier
@@ginadavis5137 facts
Wow their dad’s life need a whole movie lol very interesting
same thing i said lol... it's like he lived a hard good life which is weird but interesting.
Sounds like he was a Chi Town player for real
Replying to Miss Amber Marie. There will probably be a movie of some in the near future.
LisaRaye should make a movie about her dad!
GOD looks on the inside, whereas man looks on the outside. You can be a good looking devil.
These two ladies is messy
You know it!
Right! He had 2 children by two different women and a wife all while he was living with a different woman. This reeks of all kinds of other behaviors/issues from this man.
Neffie & Shay was not ready to do the REAL self work! At least LisaRaye was ready for the self-work required for the show.
All that shit talking n fighting they did on reality show but you want Iyanla to pussyfoot around and spare your feelings. If you can dish it you should be able to take it, they have a hard time receiving the truth. Both have been extra so going on this show after being prep, counseling and meetings I believe they wanted to be a memborable guest n was not looking for help, but another reality show or check.
Exactly they have terrible attitudes and they both act like trash
True. Black woman don't really want the hard truth..
She had everything she wanted, but him. He was still married and a lot of mistress kill their lovers.
Yep
Flings ended being forgotten about but when you take on mistress you are making her feel like a second wife...
You create the havoc that ends up coming on your family being selfish and self absorbed...
I thought I was good at pulling up receipts but baby you brought the book of tea 🤣💪🏾
Lmao my sentiment exactly, she got me watching the whole damn thing cause she did research and brought receipts 😂
Damn
To some in Chicago, Ray had 1 child, LisaRaye. She's never been poor. He treated Lisa like platinum. It's all she knows
Yes my Mom said the same thing
I laughed when LisaRaye said she spoiled her daughter, just like her daddy spoiled her!
Agree. Why settle for steak when you can have filet mignon.
Thats not true. My cousin is Rays son and he has another son and three more daughters outside of Lisa and Brat. It all came out when Ray died and all of the assets had to be divided. 😂😂😂
Lisaraye has 2 older sisters by her dad also from Chicago they look more like the dad than dabrat
Her father's life is very interesting she should have produced a movie about him, instead of Skinned.
It's not too late.
Her and da brat look nothing alike
She would never want the truth about Ray out.
Right
@@lisaperkins892 Lisaraye looks like her mother. They have same dad different mothers. Why would they look alike. They have similar features
I remember this so vividly because it happened in y dad's neighborhood. Lisa was a freshman when I was a senior at Aquinas Catholic High School. Lisa lived somewhere near my father's house (who lives in Pill Hill). My sister lived with my father so Lisa and my sister knew each other. She's the one who told me about Lisa's father. One day when my sister and I were at the cemetery visiting our grandparents Lisa was at the same cemetery with a camera crew visiting her father's grave.
Impressive
Is Pill Hill still a nice area? I don't know why I thought she went to Academy of our Lady, on 95th Street. There aren't any Black girls Catholic High Schools anymore in Chicago.
Lisa look just like her Dad
@kwf kwf Yes! She looks a lot like her mom as well.
I think the brat looks mor like him
@@teatv8645 Brat is not a biological child
@@AK.126 yes she is
@@jirrellj No she isn't.
Lisa Raye should write a book on growing up around her father . Interesting story.
Vetia Williams I AGREE
Lisa and her mother's story was literally her character and the character who played her daughter on the show The Family Business...
Is she in competition with her mom for the dads affection? Their seemed to be some competition.
Some things are to remain on the HUSH & not in a book..........👀
@@gjugjudarling3627 "People are so thirsty to know other peoples tea, while there own tea is bitter one"
You did such an amazing job investigating this story! Very interesting!
Hello. Iris
I’m sorry but the motive (household bills) of this crime doesn’t even make sense especially if the man was rich.......
Exactly ! I’m not buying that story .
Sounds like they tried to make it seem like a suicide.
EXACTLY!! What millionaire fights about a utility bill he's been paying for years??
Lol well its the Southside of Chicago, small businesses are gangs like gangster disciples etc put it together guys. Lol
That's what I was thinking, over bills?!🤦🏾♀️ Nah bruh.
His girlfriend killed him...Lisa looks JUST LIKE her mom!
Yes she looks like her mom to me also!
I think she looks like both cause mom and dad looks like sister and brother frfr
All the way.
Both
@@reneepearson6616 I àgree she look exactly like BOTH LOL
LisaRaye and Brat are NOT biological sisters 😂😂
It's a thin line..... You can't KEEP treating ppl wrong and not expect one of them to snap. It's sad but this is the truth.
Judy, how true.
YEP! 👍👍
I almost snapped. And that's when I knew it was officially time to walk away.
Yes,,, treating people right most of the time is a good way to avoid waking up Dead 😳
@@narrowroadtraveler4167 How true. Sometimes people forget this common sense rule.
They were all controlled and manipulated by money even her daughter as they all agreed on the show!!!(the man was a millionaire)
That's why Iyanla told them that they weren't ready for healing
@@Anti-democratChick exactly she said she'll be seeing them again
I have an uncle that can barely read and doesn’t have money and always has a woman giving them money. These are people not born in 1935.
@@rachelderenoncourt3881 Right!!
Wow there dad is fine and Lisa look just like him
At least this family was respectful to Iyanla even tho they are still a work in progress.
That Mississippi Chicago mix...we have manners😉
You did a great job covering lisa and her father’s story. 💯
YES SHE DID....Very great!
Absolutely 🎯👍🏾
Why they don’t talk about their other siblings? Their brother in Chicago!???
Or they cousins in NC!! Family aint the same no more
Talk about other relatives for what?
@@kbryant4985 yeah I don't understand that myself my ex has a famous cousin so do I but we don't go around talking about them all the time who cares
You could tell from da pics David Raye McCoy was a cold playa from da Chi!!🙏🏾💯
Which did not get him too far....
LisaRaye, just like the Kardashians, is used to money, so I totally understand why she seeks out a man of certain means.
No comparison.
@@luvingg, I didn't compare. I can't stand the Kardashians. My point is, people are always saying how the Kardashians go after only men with money, but that is what they're used to. Their father was a high-powered lawyer. By the same token, we see now that LisaRaye grew up in the lap of luxury; with a silver spoon in her mouth, so it's understandable that she would seek a man with means.
Why do y’all say she goes for men with means? The only person I know she dated with money is the Prince or King of Turks and Caicos. Where did you all get that info about her? Was she on a show that showed this?
Ya dam.right
@@kat64470, her first husband was Tony Martin, NFL player. Her second husband was the king. She is rumored to have messed with Gary Payton (NBA player), Terry Norris (boxer) and Datari Turner (film producer).
He was very handsome! He even had a lot of swag appeal even in his chair! He was a genius at making alot of money, handsome, with style! I can see how he " macked" up the ladies!👍😝😜 He did much from his chair, what most walking men can't do even if they had 4 legs!!!!
That woman was money crazy.
Yeah that's exactly what I said he was really good looking
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@@bessieking3797 we
😀😅😂🤣 hell Naw
He was a cold piece of work. You could make a movie off of him.
right. lisa should have thiught of this and collect them coins
Oh ABSOLUTELY 💯
I agree she should have made a story about her life
She would never want Rays dirt made public.
Boy this is a Hot 🔥 mess.
Papa was a true Rolling stone
Great story 👏 need to hit the big screen.
The way the narrator dropped the David Guest and Da Brat info was hilarious. I’m legit shocked lol 😂😂
Nobody and I mean "NOBODY" is gonna beat me from no wheelchair and especially a paraplegic..NOBODY😒😒😒😒
Yes I’m so confused. How was he doing all that cheating and beating?!?
Amen they might be rolling down the stairs.
Believe what you want, but if a paraplegic person get you i their grips its over. They have great upper body strength. I had an uncle who was a paraplegic and would whoop some ass man or woman
@@lajuanacarter5080 l agree there are a lot of people with upper body strength. I guess I would just run.
He'd have to catch me first....I'm not going to sit or stand around and wait for him to roll up on me..that's just dumb..
Neffe and Shay were doing 📺 and what Iyanla said bout Neffe was the truth. Now Iyanla did apologize to her and clearly Neffe have NOT forgiven her. Shay you were tryna run her show and you could NOT.
Factz🙅🏾
thank you
Where’s the lie? Neffie is gutter 🙄😂
You did a good job covering this story . If it wasn’t for you I would have never known this story . Good job 👍🏾
Some ppl want a yes person instead of the truth
I wish that I could like your comment 1000 times.💯 Ain't this the truth!
Girl, I never knew you before, but I know you now. You broke this all the way down. I am now hitting the like, subscribe and the notification bell. Great job Sis! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Same here
Me too and she has the same name as my late Grandmother ❤️
Yes!!! Very detailed subscribing now😊
Me too!
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That part..liked & subscribed.
Outstanding Investigating/Researching/Reporting..Nailed it all‼️
Yep that was BIG news when it happened. He was well known
The most shocking thing in this video is that Da Brat was dating David Gest*........wtf!!!!! 😳
631, David/Liza/Micheal Jackson, Da Brat. A bunch of rich troubled souls.
Iyanla may be rough around the edges but she gets the job done. She is passionate about her ministry and does not play. She prays diligently for her guest to get better. However, everything is not for everyone.
Really? I have not seen anybody get better on the show
Very attractive man, Lisa looks like him and the mom.
I agree. I see them both in her
I know Lisa, I remember when this happened. If you live in Chicago on the Southside, this is not big news. Ray owned half of the South East side.
Facts!!
Yep I remember when this happened we had just moved to e 93rd and this creeped out because it was so close.
Facts. He was definitely a big wig
Someone did a video about the brat and said that she is not his daughter. that he could not have any children after his accident. Is that true?
@@ABihStayWinN heard the same thing. I heard they just called themselves sisters and that brat and Lisa used to be lovers. I heard that on Tasha k
I believe Iyanla is an ifa priestess. Does my soul well to hear that behind the seens she is doing real spiritual work.
Vanzant holds a Juris Doctor degree from the City University of New York School of Law and a Master's degreefrom the University of Santa Monica (USM), Center for the Study and Practice of Spiritual Psychology. She is also an ordained New Thought minister.
He threaten to jump out of the car at her? He is paralyzed! Strange. 🤔
I thought the same thing.
Yeah, I caught that also 🤔
Probably like people saying Stevie Wonder can see...like there's not "legal" blind vs total blindness. He could've been classified "parapalegic" because he couldn't stand or walk unaided or for a certain distance. Adrenaline gets going, he could probably get up to whoop tail.
And whip her butt? Strange.
@@kfrancis1872 I don't know. He couldn't wash his own body. His girlfriend gave him a bath the night she murdered him.
This story was a good listen !!
#BriaArmstrong 4real 4real 🙃 word on these UA-cam streets Mr McCoy was a "street pharmacist" also 🤔
Yes! Well reserched
VERY!!!!!!!
I agree I knew the story but not In detail sad story
@@georgiasweetpotato7170 Oooooh.
There Daddy is Fine!!! An they both look like him more to Me!
Their daddy IS fine. I didn't want to be the one to say it. Lol.
Wow getting wild off a picture. I bet this guy was amazing though
DA Brat looks nothing like him to me.
Shay and Nefy arent ready to change point blank , have no emotional intelligence
Definitely...they wanted it done their way....I also think they forget a TV show has to entertain
If they say "par-a-lee-gic" one more time I'm gonna jump through the TV. Its para-plegic!!! I was like what's a paraplegic a cripled lawyer?
Like who cares? Did you jump through the phone yet 🙄.
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@@theseklownskrazyasfuq344 yes I did!
😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 same!!!
My goodness lol it slaps me in the face every time she says it lol. I have to say it the right way each time hahah.
Girl you got all the tea 🍵 and some sugar to go with it
It was piping hot
Her tea had a shot a brandy in too. 😂
@@MzReka 🤦🏾♀️😂😅🤣
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She looks like both her dad and here mom Wow. Idk which one she resembles more
I sure wish she would stop saying “paralegic” Mr. McCoy was “paraplegic”
😂😂😂I thought that too grammar police😇
I wish she would pronounce Iyanla’s name correct, it’s not Eyanla
Girl....Lol
@@jeanwashington7494 😂😂😂 you people are horrible 😇
@@realfan3565 Lord, I didn't catch that ... LOL.
Brat Dated kirk not because he bought her a car it's because he wrote his name and number on 2000 dollars
If you got a dime she got the time.
Who is kirk?
@@secretbearssugar6659 FROST
@@olngray wowwwww..didnt know that thank you for answering..i Love Bratt
@@olngray lmao! three earring ass!
Outstanding research! Your comment about the father is true in the sense of Lisa and DaBrat relationships with partners. Often times I think that women have high expectations of their partners, which is fine in my book. I told the man that I was dating for years that, "I thought men suppose to take care of women?" He said "really!"
I applaud the whole family for coming forward! People will always have negative comments, but I am praying for healing and deliverance for LisaRay family.
If You Watch Lisa Raye Show "The Real McCoy" That Came Out 10 Years In 2010 On TV One. That Show Was The Blueprint For This Iyanla Fix My Life Episode.
Yup ... good show but you could tell then that there was something going on with her and her mother at that time
Lisa Ray is materialistic. Seems it started from her dad giving her things, as a way to use her against her mom. She was used as the "other woman" to hurt her mom, but Lisa Ray doesn't see it. She also seems to have been into guys just like her dad, but she wasn't ready for the abuse that came with it. Therefore, her daughter is trying to walk in her shoes, but Lisa Ray calls her lazy because she doesn't have the same "hustle" that she does.
We're all something...
@Kevin Mitchell I said what I said. My view is not just based on this, but when her, and her family being on Iyanla Vanzant, Fix My Life.
Facts!
Wow why the harsh words on lisa??
@@destinykhan3745 If that is the case, why does she allow her daughter to live with her? There is nothing wrong with with nice things, but I said what I said. You do not have to like it. I watched her on Iyanla, and I stand on what I said. It does not make her a bad person, but it is what it is.
Actually I'm glad that Katie McCoy was entitled to most of his wealth considering what dude put her through.
Jacob, maybe that's why, she stayed in Chi-town, probably in a nice Condo.
Nice
yeah, but money dont heal the mind, only time and great therapy, id give him all his money and tell him to take a hike.
Wow!
Lisa Ray mom has not changed you see her reaction at the end when Lisa was trying to apologize to her
i'm loving Geneva's voice and how she's reading this. she got me laughing... liked and subscribed from both my youtube channels
LisaRaye looks so much like he dad, DaBrat has some resemblance too. Uncanny!!!
This is very interesting 🤔.
Lisa never got to see her father walk. Born in 67 he got shot in 68.
WOW!!
Not correct the brat is the little sister 🤔
He was shot in 88
patty he died after he was shot 3 times...he was killed as the result of being shot...he was murdered should I go on...
@@ShdwSlf great...bye
@@taneeshathomas2090 He was murdered in 1988.
On LisaRaye’s Unsung, she tells a story of trying to teach him how to walk. She was 4-5 years old when she actually REALIZED that her Daddy truly couldn’t walk.
I loved Shelby Lowery's comments. He spoke of Iylana's team praying for him and Nefeteria while on her show. That's beautiful. And he described Iylana Fix My Life, her team as a ministry, not as a TV show. That was a blessing to hear!
Geneva, this was a great video. In my opinion, if Lisa Ray doesn't get her attitude together she is going to be alone for the rest of her life.
She,s got a bitter spirit about her ,
She need 2 get her Spirit right
But look at her mom's, can you imagine growing up facing that everyday? The mom seems to blame her husband's behavior on her daughter.
FACTS....
Baby she 50+this is it
Girl you did your research 👏 ! Very detailed I'm impressed!
Girl!!!!!!!!!!! You are killing it 💪🏻💯💪🏻 this is an amazing, so precise, and well read documentary, (nbc) got nothing on you!!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Damn Lisa looks like her father❤
Nefi wanted the exsposure. She bashing Iyania profession. Some folks can't be helped, she has to reconize her own demons 1st.
SHE WANTED THAT CHECK AS WELL!!!!!!!
Lyania needs to stop the name calling!!!
@kiki d You’re the pot, calling the kettle black! You’re critiquing someone’s spelling, while your grammar could use some help too. Do you not know how to type a sentence? Where are your punctuations? What I see are a series of run-on sentences, commas instead of periods. If I didn’t know the placement of said commas and periods, I wouldn’t understand what you’re saying. It seems to me you need flash cards too and a book on diction. Nevertheless, like you, who am I to critique you? I am no one. Therefore, if there are misspellings, punctuation and grammatical errors in the comments, it is, what it is. This is not English 101.
Amen!
@@philligirl You go girl!
After reviewing this clip, here is my take when it comes to Iyanla and the process she administers with her clients on the show. What works for some people does not work for everyone, when her clients come on the show they are generally dealing with past trauma among themselves, each person needs to feel validation, and to feel heard. There are different tools that can be used in therapy as an approach to help people become more self-aware. This also has to be done with mindfulness oh, so that the Therapeutic Alliance between her and the clients it's not disrupted. The fundamental ingredients when handling these type of group sessions is to be mindful that you address issues differently with each individual. There is a tool in therapy called confrontation you have to administer that very selectively, and respectively with the client when you sent the resistance trying to help them become self aware. It must be done without diminishing the client's feelings and also your own empathy need to be present when you are listening to the client. In general, in therapy you don't advise, you may guide, the biggest skill in therapy is active listening.
This could definitely be a movie good lord Rest in Peace Mr Mc Coy.
You are correct. Most people story, if they told the truth of it could be An a Oprah best seller.
Lifetime movie
I grew up right dwn the street..from Mr McCoy.back then that area was very nice ..alot of business owners and doctors raise their children there
So you grew up rich ?
Pill Hill.
I did too
I knew mr mccoy and went to school with lisa
@@ms.michele357 are his businesses still around?
No, she had a personal.interest in that matter. She would not have inherited anything. I hope the protested that. How would he not leave everything to his own children?
Da Brat is almost 50 so there is no way her Mom is in her 50s.
Dammmmmmmmmmmmmmm you did your research enjoying this
Yesssssss girl she did !!!!!
Thank You for searching this out Good Job Sis!!!
Wow its crazy how Lisa Raye and Da Brat look EXACTLY like thier Mothers. .like twins!
I don’t believe that was really dabrats father. I think her father was somebody else
@@DarwinLpayne cut the sh** trying to create a scenario for clout. 🤦🏾♀️
@@tishthedish1533 No, that person is telling the truth. He was not her biological father.
@@AK.126 where you getting this info from?
@@jirrellj It's common knowledge. People just assumed they were blood but they are not.
Neffie need to ask herself " Why Keyshia and I don't Speak "!! When she figures that out 🙄 she'll get clarity 😎 JM
Rest in Peace Lisa Father, Dame all the rest. I wish you the best Lisa. Life goes on.
Her father aint hard on the eyes now
I love me some LisaRaye but she strikes me as the type that will cuss her man out sumthin turribul!