How QUEER FRIENDLY is PORTUGAL?
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Maru has been living the last couple of years of her life in the queer mecca, San Fransisco, but recently moved back to her parents in Maia, Portugal. In this video she discusses the differences between living as a queer person in San Fransisco versus Portugal and tries to answer the question: How queer friendly is Portugal?
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How queer friendly is YOUR country? Discuss below ⤵️
Well, I live in Israel and like Portugal we’re protected and are almost politically equal to heteronormatives (expect for same sex marriage) thanks to a few left wing political parties which managed to survive among the right wing and conservative parties who dominate Israel.
On the very other hand the Israeli society doesn’t reflect what a few politicians think, the center of the country (with some exceptions) is known to be more liberal, especially Tel Aviv.
Public opinion of Israel might be very tricky since there are so many groups of people who hold different views, beliefs and lifestyles.
Statistics of public opinions do show that around 50% of overall Israelis are tolerant towards LGBTQ people, I believe that in the center of the country (still with a few exceptions) the numbers are a little bit higher by a few dozens.
So no, my country isn’t queer friendly, only the city of Tel Aviv is when it comes to society.
Not friendly at all unfortunately
@@crissmores3434 I'm sorry to hear that!
OMG! Thank you for this video! I'm Leo, from Buenos Aires Argentina. I'm thinking about going to live to Portugal with my husband in the near future as Argentina is struggling. I've covered expenses, work related issues, life in general but Portugal LGBTQIA+ culture was a huge question I had remaining. So thank you both for giving the space and for addressing this topic! Maru is AMAZING! So easy to hear when she speaks. So interesting! Specially coming from a place like San Francisco. I really enjoyed the video. Oh! And beutiful singing voice.
Oh thanks for watching and taking your time to write to me! I wish you and your husband all the best in Portugal! 💕
Your Pessi is also gay
Hello, i am son of a Portuguese family that had to move back to Maia in 1985.
I come out to my parents in 1995 living in Maia, and I can say that it is not San Francisco, but as a Gay man, I can say that I do wear a pride t-shirt with no issues.
I think you just need to get to know more about Porto much better that Aveiro 😊.
This country has changed a lot, Porto is now one of the cities in Rainbow Cities Network.
Thank you for this video. I’m a queer living in Canada and have been playing around with the idea of moving overseas and happened across your video on my research journey. So great to hear from Maru on their experience.
I'm glad you found it and enjoyed it! 😊
Her ability to speak perfect accentless English is very impressive. She went to the US as an adult.
Very interesting video with a person I could continue listen to for a long long time! So interesting to hear a comparison between these two places. And beautiful singing too! ❤️ It’s breaking my heart to hear that you’d have to think twice before wearing a pride flag on your shirt or holding hands in public :/ I’m from Sweden which is considered to be a very queer-friendly country, but I’ve become more and more aware of that there are so much work left to be done…..
There's such an interesting (and devestating!) difference between legislation and how you are comfortable dressing/acting in public. Shows that we need to continue the fight I guess. Thanks for watching and commenting your thoughts ❤️🌈
Hey Elin 👋🏻 I'm Maru. Nice to meet you and thank you for the sweet response. As Oliver said, while legislation is very progressive (per EU guidelines) daily interactions regarding queerness can be a wild card (not so much for tourists but for those who remain, living in Portugal). I also tend to be an introverted and reserved person, so it requires quite a bit of energy for me to do things that I know will make me stand out. 🤷 But I'm working my way up to wearing that t-shirt 🙂 🏳️🌈
And yes, @Queers of the World. It shows that there is still plenty of work to do and that we shouldn't take things for granted 💙
@@xandramartins9942 Nice to meet you to and as I said - to learn from you through the video :)
@proton recuva LOL.
USA and it(Portland, OR and SF/Santa Cruz) are probably some of the most LGBT cities on earth with Berlin. The cities tend to be far more accepting even in the deeply conservitive south. Rual America tends to be not as kind to LGBT people and with trans woman dangerous even.
Such variety within the same country! But living in one of those super LGBTQ+ friendly cities that you mention seems awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Does this mean that the worst you have to worry about is people staring?
(Considering I have been known to sign loudly or dress like, say, the Joker, staring isn't even remotely bad in my book. Plus, when you look back and raise an eyebrow, people tend to get embarrassed at themselves, which is amusing.
Hateful words are more scary, and violence is definitely bad tho. Not something I've ever heard in (Camden) London, but I do worry a bit when I travel.)
Maru is amazing, i wish to have a friend like her. I'm from argentina and I'm thinking about going to live to Portugal with my wife (i'm also lesbian and genderfluid) so all this experience that she's telling is very helpful and hopeful for us. Thank you very much.
I wish you all the best if/when you move!! 😊🌈
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I wonder how difficult it would be to have say like a penpal or something equivalent with today's tech, from portugal? I would like to visit if I could talk to other lesbians in Portugal.
Hello, thanks so much for making this video series. Can you recall the name of the queer friendly place that Mary references at around the 9:30min point? Aveu?
Thanks for watching! The queer friendly town is called Aveiro.
@@Queersoftheworld Thank you!
I had thought Portugal is much more tolerant for LGBTQ, I guess public opinion statistics and political legislations are not reflecting peoples experiences
Exactly. And also, everyone has different experiences, this is Maru's 😊
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Excellent video! I would love to interview someone as a guest on my podcast called Where Do Gays Retire. Preferably an expat who has moved or retired to The Algarve from the US.
She is lovely, and speaks with clarity. Kudos to Maru !!
Agreed!
It's funny though, I born in a small country town not far from Lisbon, moved to Porto while i was still a baby, and i use to Live near Maia city, i went to school in Maia city, wish i really like that small city have some close friends they still live there, but moved to Toronto Canada about 20 years ago, miss my Country and proud of being Portuguese .
As a 22 year old male from Portugal who came out as bisexual rather recently, I absolutely agree with everything you just said.
Portugal in terms of legislation is definitely very progressive, but in terms of social inclusion, it's still far away from being welcoming. As you said, the whole "LGBTQIA+" topic is almost taboo in portugal. No one manifests themselves verbally and outwards against queer people, but the judging stares, the whispers and social exclusion are to be somewhat expected in Portugal. Hell, in schools the whole lgbt topic is avoided, and if not for the internet, I'd know almost 0 about it. I saw it in when I went to school just how indocrinated the other kids were to judge and harass "different" people. This whole "different = most likely bad" mindset in portugal is awful, and is one of the main reasons I only came out this year, after a lot of mostly self-inflicted psychological trauma due to how most discussions around the lgbt topic would normally go.
Truthfully, Portugal is a great place to live as a queer couple, you won't be assaulted or anything, usually, but expect quite a bit of social exclusion and an absurd lack of events pertaining to the lgbt community. Expect a lot of traditional cis-heteronormative religious events though, with a few sprinkles of "lgbt = bad" from some people.
Thank you so so much for sharing your thoughts and experiences! 🌈✨💕
@@MarcellaDS4 It is mostly safe out in portugal, you won't be really at risk of agressions, but the population (not the laws) is very close minded in regards to most matters lgbt-related. It's very unlikely for any sort of physical agression, and verbal assaults are rare, but judgmental attitudes and being given a cold attitude are to be expected in the day-to-day life if you're in any way "different" from the good ol' "Masculine man" and "feminine woman" personality and appearence wise. This is less frequent in the bigger cities though like Lisbon and Porto.
Olha, secalhar é algo recente, mas falaram acerca desse tópico na minha escola várias vezes durante o secundário (ainda estou no secundário), até vimos um filme sobre alguém trans e fizemos umas apresentações. É por causa de um projeto chamado PESES. Td a gente sabe q sou trans e ng se importa e na minha escola há vários casais queers e pessoas q são assim publicamente. E olha q a minha escola tem bué gente da aldeia, eu inclusive. Secalhar só tive sorte msm ahshdh
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