Rings of Power finally broke me! My last review: S2 Episode 6

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  • The Rings of Power somehow manages to get worse and worse, and so our journey of reviewing it ends here! It finally broke me. I have absolutely nothing good left to say about this show and so I'll rather focus my time and energy elsewhere - talking about what actually makes Tolkien great. So expect some more videos soon, where we'll dive into a lot of fascinating topics.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 661

  • @g.t.werber4476
    @g.t.werber4476 День тому +632

    I hold your oath fulfilled . Go ,be at peace

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому +13

      It is now time to take the ship to the Undying Lands, where the lore is undefiled, for none that hold evil in the hearts may enter.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому +10

      Council needs the healing of Irmo and Estë.

    • @mohango9776
      @mohango9776 День тому

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Norderas
      @Norderas 19 годин тому +1

      Would love to see you continue on your version, "The Rings of Power should have been - A Second Age series". :)

  • @lingricen8077
    @lingricen8077 День тому +215

    “And then there is more crying…how else would the island drown?”
    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @tomasz9429
    @tomasz9429 День тому +127

    "There is no lore. -10/10"
    Jesus wept...

    • @Zikuth
      @Zikuth День тому +2

      Hahahaha that was pretty accurate XD

    • @chamuuemura5314
      @chamuuemura5314 День тому +3

      By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

    • @nonamename4367
      @nonamename4367 День тому +2

      No Lore = very bad ima cry lol

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому +2

      Jesus interceded for JRR.🙏✝️

    • @Lrcorndog
      @Lrcorndog 2 години тому

      They don’t have rights to everything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @brian8130
    @brian8130 День тому +133

    Totally understandable, they don't even deserve the negative attention anymore. Thank you for defending Tolkien

    • @calistudent6335
      @calistudent6335 День тому +1

      Agreed. When you spend time filling up comments of unrelated LOTR videos and discussion with obsessive hate about Amazon's attempted work, it's time to move on. Not any better than their level.

  • @frankblack8573
    @frankblack8573 День тому +106

    14 episodes! You are a true warrior. I surrendered after 15min...

  • @GordonSmith-nd4oy
    @GordonSmith-nd4oy День тому +36

    Even as a generic fantasy show it has poor writing, poor direction, poor acting and poor production values. As an adaptation of Tolkien’s work, it is a travesty of both its content and underlying themes.

  • @davidwebb6556
    @davidwebb6556 День тому +119

    Of all the channels that spoke the truth against Rings of Power, yours spoke the truest. Thank you for your service.

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +13

      Thank you! Aurë entuluva! Day shall come again!

    • @TimeGoes-b7x
      @TimeGoes-b7x День тому

      Yes, in a more direct concise least bloated manner.

    • @iainhannify5533
      @iainhannify5533 День тому

      Bomb Tumbletit , nailed the character.

    • @mattteomatei3610
      @mattteomatei3610 День тому +1

      He did not
      The series may have flaws, but is decent at the least. Incredible as far as I'm concerned

    • @TimeGoes-b7x
      @TimeGoes-b7x 22 години тому +2

      @@mattteomatei3610 Jeffery!? 🧐

  • @0jiro
    @0jiro День тому +233

    I again thank you for your service. It's admirable you could make it to episode 6.

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +20

      Thank you! 🙏

    • @fueledbylove
      @fueledbylove День тому +1

      Actually it is episode #14 of the series.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому +3

      ​@@fueledbylove
      Yes, but he had two years to recover from Episodes 1~8😅

    • @fueledbylove
      @fueledbylove 22 години тому +2

      @@Enerdhil Ah, clever.

  • @ralphdamiani1976
    @ralphdamiani1976 День тому +135

    "Why doesn't it feel like Tolkien?" is the big question here, and I think the right answer is: "It wouldn't and won't ever feel like Tolkien." Tolkien is a product of his time and age-of his deep Christianity, of a post-imperialist Britain coming out of one great war and diving headfirst into another. He was a man of academia, raised on classic epics and romantic prose rooted in traditional values. In his later years, Tolkien was already haunted by the invasion of postmodernism, corporatism, and celebrity culture.
    Cut to these two American screenwriters in their early forties, coming fresh out of Yale, landing this job after working a decade as script doctors and assistants. Their entire lifetime experience has been shaped by postmodern literature and mass media consumption. Like most of us, they are hardcore fans of hit television shows and blockbuster cinema. They have no filmmaking experience, were born during the longest peace period in human history, and have never wanted for anything. Their most immediate concern is social injustice and wealth inequality.
    How could they possibly write about subjects like war, chivalry, theology, anthropology, or linguistics? Everything they write will inevitably be pastiche and mimicry. They are not scholars, travelers, or auteurs; they are just fans like us. And they have no substantial material to adapt-just footnotes and lines written for other stories.
    This could never work with this format and writing by committee.

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +42

      Great insights, Ralph! I still think it could be adapted 'well' by people that respected Tolkien and wanted to tell it like he wanted. Not in the current political climate of Hollywood though, but maybe some day.

    • @A5tr0101
      @A5tr0101 День тому +2

      Even the films don't feel like Tolkein in that case, there is so much they missed. And so much included in rings of power actually. Tom Bombadil is arguably one of the most important and powerful characters. You can't claim to be a Tolkein fan if you shit on things that he created which inspire the show. Especially the characters, what they were doing. Who their alliances were, the materials to create the rings. All of this is juicy to me.

    • @AlexSolaire
      @AlexSolaire День тому +18

      ​​@@A5tr0101 Personally I think the exclusion of Tom Bombadil in the movie was necessary. The movie would have suffered so much pacing in the first act.

    • @Relixification
      @Relixification День тому +5

      ​@@A5tr0101ADAPTATION. It's a fking thing. Your hate on such matters for the films completely makes your opinion invalid.

    • @ncheltsov
      @ncheltsov День тому +7

      I will summarise your thoughtful insides - it doesn't feel lik Tolkien because it is total shit.

  • @timbotron4000
    @timbotron4000 День тому +25

    The character of Earien is absolutely frustrating. It's her fault that her father is about to "die" but she is so incredibly sad. Her character makes absolutely no sense.

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +6

      100%

    • @yaroslavgerzhedovich6064
      @yaroslavgerzhedovich6064 День тому +2

      Just wannabe Sansa Stark... but GoT had far superior acting.

    • @BobbyBaloney
      @BobbyBaloney 15 годин тому +1

      Yes. The whole “Bend the knee” and jail scene felt like cheap copies of Ned Stark last moments in GOT.

    • @timbotron4000
      @timbotron4000 14 годин тому

      @BobbyBaloney this whole episode was a rip off of other stories better than ROP...GoT and Star Wars

  • @brushylake4606
    @brushylake4606 День тому +79

    You watched it so we don't have to. I'll pray for your mental health.

    • @PROVOCATEURSK
      @PROVOCATEURSK День тому +1

      You pray for this instead of going back in time and preventing WW2? Priorities of christians...

    • @brushylake4606
      @brushylake4606 День тому +2

      @@PROVOCATEURSK Oh, you're so funny...such a deep thinker...you really showed me up. smh
      You're probably a ROP fan, aren't you?

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому

      Yes 🙏 for healing and recovery.✝️

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому

      ​@@PROVOCATEURSK
      The prayer is for Council, not the series and if you a problem with that then you have darker issues to deal with in your soul.

    • @brushylake4606
      @brushylake4606 День тому

      It was a joke. The show is such a dumpster fire that I was joking that it might emotionally damage him.

  • @niallgaffney2475
    @niallgaffney2475 День тому +59

    Can’t wait for Gandalf to visit the valley of hats in season 3.

  • @domepuncher
    @domepuncher День тому +18

    I've generally believed that even subpar time spent in Middle Earth is better than spent elsewhere. But this episode finally broke me as well. Unforgivable.

    • @troffle
      @troffle День тому +2

      To be fair, the question ought to be whether it's "Middle-earth" or "Bizarro Middle-earth" or "Middle-Hollywood".

  • @danilokrdzavac6603
    @danilokrdzavac6603 День тому +13

    Monthy Python a comedy is far more serious then this enormous hollywood turd

  • @destroy-erase-improve9106
    @destroy-erase-improve9106 День тому +12

    My friend at work was praising this seasons first few episodes (he’s read the history of middle earth so I’m dumbfounded…). He came in last week and said “I just can’t do it anymore. It’s going nowhere. Does anything actually happen?”. My answer “I refuse to watch it so I wouldn’t know”.

  • @JoSan3
    @JoSan3 День тому +6

    "Swallow your pride" said the same people who can't swallow their pride and think they can write better than Tolkien

  • @politicallycorrectindividu2867
    @politicallycorrectindividu2867 День тому +18

    The negative scores always crack me up -5/10 😂

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому

      That's based on a scale of 1-10, where 1 means you like it the smallest amount possible.😂
      Hate starts at -1. So 5-6 is average hate.🤣

  • @Yersina.
    @Yersina. День тому +20

    Thanks for reviewing this show as long as you did. You were one of the few who didn't turn towards fat jokes, jokes against women every chance you got
    I really appreciated your thoughts on the show, even with as little as it had to do with Tolkien

  • @thetownsend2990
    @thetownsend2990 День тому +89

    The shows shit. Thanks for the video though ❤

    • @rudign
      @rudign День тому

      Shit shows dont get renewed. clearly the majority of people wanted more.

    • @matheusxavier9080
      @matheusxavier9080 День тому +7

      @@rudignor they just have money to burn 💁🏻‍♂️

    • @laurensb1b
      @laurensb1b День тому +8

      @@rudign it was never renewed because its Bezo's pet project funded with unlimitied Amazon money. They are gonna make 5 seasons regardless if anyone likes it or watches it.
      Any other show would have been axed after losing 90% of its audience in a season and a half.

    • @DifferentMMO
      @DifferentMMO День тому +6

      @@rudign The show is just an ad for Amazon Prime, nothing else. They try to get more subscribers with a big IP. Thats the only reason why it gets renewed.

    • @rudign
      @rudign День тому

      @@DifferentMMO Amazon needing more subs is the wildest thing you could’ve said

  • @TheMinskyTerrorist
    @TheMinskyTerrorist День тому +11

    Good to hear that the Tolkien Professor is still a traitor. I stopped listening to him the first time he made an IGN video trying to generate cope for the show.

  • @toodlepop
    @toodlepop День тому +18

    no one wants to watch "game of the rings".

  • @lars88hm
    @lars88hm День тому +9

    Not even the Valar can use the secret fire, but aperantly mr "Grand elf" can master it. It all makes so much sense now

    • @tominiowa2513
      @tominiowa2513 День тому +2

      How Eru Ilúvatar let the Ainur use the power of the Secret Fire when creating Arda would be a topic worthy of its own video.

  • @jypsumfantastic
    @jypsumfantastic День тому +19

    Ah buddy! I guess I can't blame you. The show is torture to watch

  • @SamuelBlackMetalRider
    @SamuelBlackMetalRider День тому +29

    Your voice sounded even more weary & blasé than usual! 😅 Stay strong, we are counting on you!! Nay, we NEED you!

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому +1

      You are absolutely right. Council is the best at exposing all the lore violations and fan fiction flaws in TRoP. It is a shame to lose his review videos but he has plenty of must-see lore videos coming up.🙏😁👍

  • @InkyMuste
    @InkyMuste День тому +6

    I genuinely feel that the world would be a better place if this show didn't exist. Props to you for sticking with this for as long as you did.

  • @ChrisMisMYhandle
    @ChrisMisMYhandle День тому +25

    Oh wow, you sound broken. I didn't even make it half way through the 1st episode, and that took 3 sittings.
    Im happy for your decision. Look forward to your other videos.

  • @alcoholfueledgaming9431
    @alcoholfueledgaming9431 День тому +5

    I just can't wrap my head around the fact that people think it's a good show and the 2 dbag show runners haven't been fired.

  • @florpodesta561
    @florpodesta561 23 години тому +9

    The stolen line, they made it mean the opposite of mercy. Of all the crimes, that was the greatest.

  • @lucianotesta5019
    @lucianotesta5019 День тому +15

    We share your pain. This is ridiculous.

  • @HelloTosho
    @HelloTosho День тому +13

    Lay down
    Your sweet and weary head
    The night is falling
    You have come to journey's end

  • @frankvandorp9732
    @frankvandorp9732 День тому +7

    The whole Elendil plot this episode was a blatant Ned Stark ripoff, with the difference that they removed all aspects that made Ned Stark's story impactful and made it lame instead (unlike Ned, Elendil stays true to his beliefs, unlike Sansa, Earien is acting out of her own agency instead of being manipulated, unlike Joffrey, Pharazon loses in the end and all heroes survive, and to top it off, what is supposed to be Elendil's most heroic moment gets ultimately stolen from him by girlboss Miriel).

    • @niallgaffney2475
      @niallgaffney2475 День тому

      Ned Stark with a sprinkling of Tyrion’s trial.

  • @gregorronckers7645
    @gregorronckers7645 День тому +11

    You went above and beyond your duty by watching for so long. You have suffered enough. Rest now and be joyfull that you ll never have to watch it again. Time heals many wounds. Looking forward to your new video! I salute you

  • @KnightRonin0103
    @KnightRonin0103 День тому +20

    I completely understand. The RoP is an abomination.

  • @politicallycorrectindividu2867
    @politicallycorrectindividu2867 День тому +25

    This series is a literal shitshow

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому

      It's a 🤡 show that ---> a 💩 show.

  • @YouTellemFrosk
    @YouTellemFrosk День тому +11

    You’re not alone, I’m seeing plenty of the other content makers giving up. Problem is having to comment over and again that.. the dialogue, the majority of the direction and writing, and the lore; is pretty poor.
    Probably a wise decision

  • @Hemskelol
    @Hemskelol День тому +13

    I don't understand how anyone can sit through this honestly. I was actually excited for RoP before we knew anything about it, because Amazon has unlimited money and I assumed they would hire talented people whom worked on Peter Jacksons trilogy. When the first images dropped I instantly recognized it for what it is: woke dei propaganda, way too on the nose, terrible acting, and horrendous writing.

    • @nonamename4367
      @nonamename4367 День тому

      it got better season 2 have you watched it or only reviews?

    • @troffle
      @troffle День тому

      @@nonamename4367 You didn't watch the video on this very page, did you?

    • @Yugemos
      @Yugemos 12 годин тому

      @@nonamename4367 The DEI gets worse in Season 2... They put token diversity in every scene.
      The show is a California Cast for DEI reasons entirely.

    • @Hemskelol
      @Hemskelol 10 годин тому +3

      @@nonamename4367 bot 🤮

  • @kjellduteweert9262
    @kjellduteweert9262 День тому +13

    Oh i started laughing so hard when Diasa started singing, no jelling. My god that is so stupid.
    Great vid.

    • @Yugemos
      @Yugemos 12 годин тому

      Also, the Dwarfs would've had to leave the spot for like 5 minutes while the giant bats left, then resume moving diversity hire Disa.

  • @luismancerapascual4608
    @luismancerapascual4608 День тому +10

    By the end of the episode i wanted to join Gollum and jump into the lava... I'm trying to be positive here 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Brilliant

  • @williamhowells7777
    @williamhowells7777 День тому +6

    Your reviews have been the most enjoyable aspect of Rings of Power. There is something comforting about commiserating with another about these episodic atrocities. I for one, will really miss your reviews. I would love it if you changed your mind and finished out the season. Thanks again for expressing the frustration that so many of us have been feeling...

  • @georgiosFreeman
    @georgiosFreeman День тому +11

    This was the episode that broke me too. I managed to watch until now, wondering where they are getting with this. And now that they are finally progressing their narrative it is just unimaginable that they inspired themselves from the Legendarium. How much time I wasted with strangers online who tried to convince me and everybody else this show respects Tolkien. I wonder how these people are still feeling.

    • @Jayako12
      @Jayako12 День тому +1

      I don't think those people really care, they are just parroting what they hear.

    • @nonamename4367
      @nonamename4367 День тому

      Na if this episode broke you how did you even survive episode 3-4 😂 like cmon

    • @georgiosFreeman
      @georgiosFreeman 18 годин тому +1

      @@nonamename4367 It was clear they have zero respect for the lore, straight from the first minutes of the first season, when the High King sent Galadriel to Valinor because she would not give up looking for Sauron.
      It has been painful so far, but my curiosity has been able to balance my pain. Now I am no longer curious. They have managed to defile every single concept of Arda and even their made up things like Adar and his Orc rebellion.

  • @laurensb1b
    @laurensb1b День тому +15

    billion dollar budget but somehow weren't able to find a single good actor.

    • @watchrodantvgaming
      @watchrodantvgaming 17 годин тому

      not true at all dont overkill it

    • @Hearto6636
      @Hearto6636 16 годин тому

      There are certainly good actors like Ciarán Hinds. But yeah the show itself is...

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil Годину тому

      The acting has been very good the whole time. The issue is the moronic situations and dialogues the actors find themselves in.

  • @jarvisnelson1878
    @jarvisnelson1878 День тому +2

    CotR: "I can't recall the taste of lore, nor the sound of good writing, nor the touch of good acting. I'm naked in the dark. There's nothing -- no veil between me and the wheel of sh*te."
    Fans: "The let us be rid of it, once and for all."

  • @backtothemoviespodcast
    @backtothemoviespodcast День тому +17

    Oh I agree 100%! But will miss these reviews nonetheless!

    • @backtothemoviespodcast
      @backtothemoviespodcast День тому +5

      Stolen so much dialogue:
      „Sauron rises in the West, the dark wizard in the East. Every soul in Middle-Earth is in peril. Will you abandon them to their doom?“
      „Turn away now and you can never return to this path.“
      The road goes on and on…

  • @AnnieEC4
    @AnnieEC4 День тому +6

    Thank you for your service and for defending Tolkien

  • @oscarstainton
    @oscarstainton День тому +6

    Your reviews had the most clarity and concise understanding about storytelling and lore, still I don’t blame you for backing out. Thank you for putting 100% more time and effort into your videos than the shitrunners responsible for this damn disaster.

  • @rockinHurley777
    @rockinHurley777 День тому +19

    You shouldn't have wasted your time...we all know the show is crap.

  • @STÜDD_Music
    @STÜDD_Music 7 годин тому +2

    When Adar stole Saruman’s line more along the lines of “I have thousands of orcs/uruks” I just about lost it 😂😂😂

  • @Neon002121
    @Neon002121 20 годин тому +4

    How you made it this far is beyond me. As soon as Galadriel decided to swim back to Middle Earth I noped out. I admire your fortitude.

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  19 годин тому +4

      I would have left the moment Finrod talked about why ships float and stones do not, hahaha. I lasted longer than I thought I would

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 56 хвилин тому

      ​@@CounciloftheRings
      Yes. I think their point was that people in glass ships don't throw stones.🤪

  • @odd4824
    @odd4824 День тому +7

    Thank you for getting this far! The door is shut!

  • @blogumlego601
    @blogumlego601 День тому +5

    Too much crying in this show: tears, tears and more tears! No wonder Numenor sinks in the end. Good one, mate!

  • @annaanna1981
    @annaanna1981 День тому +8

    Your review lifts my spirits. This has been pretty terrible - it is admirable that you have lasted so long and I will miss your sighs and ironic commentary

  • @anarionelendili8961
    @anarionelendili8961 День тому +7

    I posted this to the Angry Joe Show:
    A couple of things about the Sauron Vision scene that bugged me...
    1.) It was night when the orcs attacked, but the vision was full daytime with sunshine. Sure, it made for a nice visual contrast, but it also implies that Celebrimbor was so wrapped up in his work and his forge not having any openings to the outside world at all that he would miss that. Mind control handwavey, still, bothered me.
    2.) Celebrimbor is standing there, out in the open, talking to Annatar, without a care in the world. Not one of the elves running around thought to maybe seek some help or solace from the two leaders of the city?

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +4

      As usual - Logic: -10/10

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому +3

      Daylight comes through openings in the building where the forge is housed. Even if Celebrimbor was working his arse off, he still must have eaten. Surely he knows he ate dinner two hours ago, meaning evening.
      They could have easily had those visions inside the building. Galadriel was ushered to the raft and other places without moving.
      But they paid for an expensive statue of Fëanor and wanted to show it off before having it destroyed. Payne and McKay are so transparent.🙄

  • @kengami
    @kengami День тому +12

    too bad, because I really cherish your reviews since you are very much level headed in your thoughts. I can completely understand your decision though. One does feel a bit more violated after each episode...

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому

      I agree that Council's reviews are fantastic, but they are not worth the PTSD.

  • @hugomouro5909
    @hugomouro5909 День тому +13

    We thank you for your sacrifice. It's quite understable and somewhat expected. Funny you mentioned the Tolkien professor, I watched one of his videos and it's 50% explaining Tolkien via the books and 50% grasping at straws to find reasons for reasons about every event of the show. It's quite odd.

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +14

      He is wrong to many times it's painful. I tried to watch one of his videos from season 1 and had to shut it down. I hope he enjoys his 30 pieces of silver from Amazon.

    • @eglar86
      @eglar86 День тому

      ​@@CounciloftheRings yep. Although he is claiming to be a Tolkien scholar, he either gets a lots of things factually wrong or twists facts to support his pro-ROP arguments.

    • @troffle
      @troffle День тому

      @@CounciloftheRings if you recover your strength... well, it does sound as if the Mediaeval Professor who's falsely adopted the title of "Tolkien professor" needs to have HIS videos exposed and scoured by review...?

    • @troffle
      @troffle День тому +1

      @@CounciloftheRings Review HIS videos, we beg of you. Show just how deep his betrayal runs.

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  18 годин тому +3

      @@troffle it takes too long, even watching them. While the internet would love the drama where a self-proclaimed expert gets called out, it’s not worth my time currently. I find it more interesting to tell things as they are

  • @leoruivos
    @leoruivos День тому +7

    I also think I will just abandon it after this episode. The tipping point for me was the whole Galadriel x Adar interactions. None of them make even the smallest shred of sense. This show is written by braindead DEI hires.

    • @Jayako12
      @Jayako12 День тому +1

      Never before had I supported IQ tests being public, but that writing room must lower the world's average considerably.

    • @Yugemos
      @Yugemos 12 годин тому

      Galadriel is supposed to be a gnarly badass she-elf... and they made her into a dumb blonde Starbucks chick.

  • @pdjinne65
    @pdjinne65 День тому +4

    14 hours wasted... you could have gone on a hike or gone fishing.
    Thanks for your service!

  • @arsebusquets2436
    @arsebusquets2436 День тому +10

    Nobody tosses a dwarf!

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +6

      Unless it's your son... apparently

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому +1

      Your best and last joke about the dreaded series.

  • @anarionelendili8961
    @anarionelendili8961 День тому +6

    So something positive...
    When I was watching it, the dialogue between Adar and Galadriel at the table actually sounded alright, like it was actually two people talking for a change.
    Granted, I only watched it once and the bar was almost down to the floor anyway, but still. And compared to Tom's stolen line butchering the meaning and the convulsions of the plot in Numenor, I didn't actively hate that scene. Although the whole how did the orcs remain unnoticed by the keen elven eyes while Sauron had time to gallivant to Khazad-Dum and back (as Angry Joe Show pointed out), I do not know.

  • @davidevans5961
    @davidevans5961 7 годин тому +2

    It's almost 2 full seasons in now and there isn't a single character in the entire show that I would care if they somehow died. Not one. Not even one. It's awful.

  • @Pandamodium199
    @Pandamodium199 День тому +4

    I wish they would of focused on story and displaying Tolkien's energy instead of the shit they did try to focus on

  • @johnw1743
    @johnw1743 День тому +3

    I feel your pain. After witnessing a blatant rerun of Yoda training Luke on Dagobah even my resolve is weakening.

  • @allenwilhelm7799
    @allenwilhelm7799 День тому +17

    It's so bad lol

  • @kenkunkel1995
    @kenkunkel1995 День тому +4

    PLEASE,PLEASE CONTINUE!!! Your witty and hilarious banter on this train wreck actually makes its existence justifiable and I always looked forward to your videos. Each one is like a flower that grows out of a pile of manure.

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +6

      Well, hopefully the new videos coming will be even better, though less 'banter' and fewer jokes. But I'll review the War of the Rohirrim in December, when it comes out.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 19 хвилин тому

      ​@@CounciloftheRings
      Your lore videos are fantastic, but you are a rare talent when it comes to making review videos. You have us laughing and cussing at the screen while you reveal many things we did not even notice. I actually have learned more about Tolkien in your review videos than many more videos of other Tolkien UA-camrs.
      I totally get why your flushing that 💩 down the proverbial 🚽, but many of us will miss your way/deadpan/sarcastic humor.
      Please use more of it in your lore videos.🙏😁👍

  • @Ryansghost
    @Ryansghost День тому +2

    Anattar showed Celebrimbor a misleading vision because, funnily enough, they had told us 10 minutes earlier that Anattar could show people misleading visions. Pure coincidence. Thank you for enduring so long... I surrendered after episode 1 of this season.

  • @gabrielcruz6752
    @gabrielcruz6752 День тому +4

    4:21 I now comprehend why it finally broke you. Olórin, the disciple of Nienna. Olórin, the humble keeper of Gnosis, Sophia and Estel that fulfilled the new approach in which the Valar helped Middle earth without the use of force or other authoritarian measures. Olórin, treated like this by Am4zon, is enough.
    Thank you for your work!

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 26 хвилин тому

      I think a lot of people are going to be shocked 😱 and enraged 🤬 when the Stranger turns out to be one of the Blue Wizards.

  • @snackymcgoo1539
    @snackymcgoo1539 День тому +1

    Don't quit making these. We need voices like yours. Think of it this way, you aren't degrading your love of Tolkien, you are fighting for it at the expense of your mental health.

  • @LaitoChen
    @LaitoChen 18 годин тому +2

    Thank you for weathering this storm. I never watched a single episode of ROP and never will. You did gods work. Rest now.

  • @aoisagara8475
    @aoisagara8475 День тому +4

    Just a reminder that Nerd of the Rings gave s1 ep 1+2 an 8/10. Let that sink in

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +3

      Really? Jeez

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 28 хвилин тому

      That was after Matt got back from his all-expenses-paid trip to England to see the special trailer only seen by influencers who accepted Bezos' invitation.

  • @Krapvag
    @Krapvag День тому +6

    there's simply no point watching this absolute garbage. Take lord of the rings out of the title and it is still a desperately poor show filled with awful characters and appalling storytelling

  • @blaquemargin
    @blaquemargin День тому +7

    I actually gasped at the heresy. 😨 How dare!!

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil День тому +1

      Which heresy? TRoP is a series of heresies strung together.

    • @blaquemargin
      @blaquemargin День тому +1

      @@Enerdhil True, actually. There're too many to count!! 😭

  • @toodlescae
    @toodlescae День тому +2

    I salute you for lasting this long. I dropped out after the explanation of why a ship floats abd a rock sinks. My roommate fell asleep during episode 2 of Season 1 and slept through the rest..he never went back to watch more.

  • @etistone
    @etistone День тому +20

    I enjoy the roasting of this show since season 1 since I was so upset and disapointed by the butchering of Tolkiens universe.
    But now, more and more, I don't care. Let this sorry show fall into oblivion.

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +10

      Yeah exactly. Let it rot in the darkness where it belongs.

    • @etistone
      @etistone День тому

      @@CounciloftheRings Next to the russianTV version of LOTR. 🤢

    • @nonamename4367
      @nonamename4367 День тому

      Yikes just watch it lil bro you may like it. It’s like when a baby eats food they like but make a ugly face just to say no

    • @etistone
      @etistone День тому +3

      @@nonamename4367 I'm 40, I read the hobbit, the LOTR, with the appendix, the Simarillon, the unfinished tales 20 years ago. I loved Peter Jackson adaptation, that is how I discovered this universe. But I'm really not the target audience for this show, I think. I've seen a bit of it and it is not for me.
      I love watching house of the dragon though. So, it's not that I lost interest in this kind of stuff.

    • @olaf3140
      @olaf3140 День тому +2

      No no, no oblivion until they've spent a billion on the full five seasons 😂

  • @tobygoodman9134
    @tobygoodman9134 День тому +2

    Thank you for your coverage of this show. I truly don't blame you for checking out.

  • @MarkFilipAnthony
    @MarkFilipAnthony День тому +5

    Sad. I've been looking forward to your episodes. Best part of the series

  • @Arcessitor
    @Arcessitor 17 годин тому +2

    This is AI-generated Tom/Gandalf exchange. Compare and contrast:
    The trees of the Old Forest rustled in the soft evening breeze, their leaves whispering secrets in a language older than elves. Birds chirped, and the sun dipped low, casting long shadows over the ancient woods. A gentle melody floated on the air, the sound of a voice as old as the hills, singing to the rhythm of the earth itself.
    Gandalf, now dressed once more in his grey robes, walked slowly along the edge of the trees. His staff tapped the ground lightly as he moved with purpose, yet his heart was not heavy as it had been in the days of war. He felt the world beginning to heal, but there were questions in his mind-questions that had lingered through the ages.
    As if in answer to his thoughts, the singing grew louder. Ahead of him, seated on a fallen tree, was Tom Bombadil. He wore his blue coat and his bright yellow boots, his hat adorned with a long feather swaying as he bobbed his head in rhythm. His eyes sparkled like sunlight on a rippling brook.
    “Hey dol! Merry dol! Ring-a-dong-dillo!” Bombadil sang, laughing as he spotted the wizard. “Old Gandalf is wandering, out in the green fields! What brings you, oh Greyhame, to my borders once more?”
    Gandalf smiled, his old eyes twinkling with a mixture of amusement and curiosity. “I had a feeling I might find you here, Tom. The world has changed much since last we met.”
    “Changed, yes, and still the same in many ways!” Bombadil hopped down from his perch, as spry as ever, and approached Gandalf, a wide grin on his face. “The birds still sing, the trees still grow. Seasons turn, wind blows. But the world beyond the woods, ah, that’s what troubles you, I think.”
    Gandalf chuckled. “As always, you are more than you seem. Yes, the world beyond your woods has been through much. The Dark Lord is gone. The Ring is unmade. But there are still shadows that linger-questions that remain.”
    Bombadil’s face softened, and for a moment, his gaze grew distant. He was not often serious, but something in Gandalf’s words struck a chord. “Ah, the long dark and deep waters. The old wounds of the world, scars that do not heal with the turning of the age. What weighs on your mind, Gandalf?”
    Gandalf leaned on his staff and sighed. “So much death, Tom. So much loss. Sauron’s evil claimed many lives-some innocent, some guilty. And yet... I wonder. What of those who perished in darkness? Could they not have been redeemed? Even Gollum, in the end, played his part in the undoing of evil. But there are others-those who did not have a chance.”
    Tom Bombadil’s eyes twinkled again, though his smile was softer now, filled with ancient understanding. He sat on a nearby stone, gesturing for Gandalf to do the same.
    “Ah, you ponder the great question. Life and death, who is worthy of what fate? A hard riddle for even the wisest of wizards.” Bombadil chuckled, his tone gentle. “You speak of mercy. Perhaps you, Gandalf, already know the answer, deep in your heart.”
    Gandalf sat beside him, feeling the quiet power of the earth beneath his feet. “I have always believed in mercy, yes. But sometimes, I question whether my choices were right. The lives that were lost... Could I have done more?”
    Bombadil reached down and plucked a single flower, holding it up to the fading light. “Old Tom knows this world well, Gandalf. The flowers bloom, the trees grow tall, but all things must fade in time. Some pass in peace, and others... by violence or hatred. Yet life is not something easily judged.”
    He turned, his bright blue eyes fixing on Gandalf’s. “Do you remember what I told Frodo, when he came to my house? The barrow-wight, a dark soul long lost, was sent away, but not destroyed. Evil may fall, but it may also rise again, in strange forms. And yet, not all dark things are beyond hope.”
    Gandalf nodded, his face thoughtful.
    Bombadil rose suddenly, casting the flower into the wind. “And so, dear Gandalf, do you ask yourself who deserves to live? Who deserves to die? It is a question beyond even the Valar, I reckon. For what is death but a door? Some who pass through it deserve life again, and some who live may not yet be ready for it.”
    The wizard’s breath caught. He turned to Bombadil, sensing the gravity of his words.
    The old forest-dweller paused, gazing out over the ancient trees, his voice quiet yet resonating with ancient wisdom.
    “Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Gandalf? Can anyone?”
    Gandalf was silent for a long while, the weight of the question resting heavily upon him. He had seen so much, fought so long, and yet even now, there were mysteries beyond his understanding.
    “No,” Gandalf finally said, his voice filled with both sadness and acceptance. “I cannot.”
    Bombadil turned to him with a smile, though there was kindness in his eyes. “And that, my friend, is why mercy is greater than wisdom. We cannot know the fates of all, but we can show kindness where it is in our power. That is the gift we can give to this world.”
    Gandalf nodded slowly, his heart lighter. “You are wise, Tom. Far wiser than many realize.”
    Bombadil laughed, the sound echoing through the trees. “Wise, perhaps, but still Tom Bombadil! Old Tom is just himself, and that is enough. Now come, Gandalf! The night is young, and there’s still time for another song.”
    And with that, Bombadil began to sing once more, his voice mingling with the wind and the leaves, while Gandalf sat in peaceful contemplation, the weight of the world eased, if only for a little while.

    • @Arcessitor
      @Arcessitor 17 годин тому +1

      The prompt was "Okay, so, we're now Tolkien. I want you to write an imagined scene between Tom Bombadil and Gandalf, which ultimately ends with Bombadil being the first to do the "Some that death deserve life" quote. '
      Now, it didn't quite get what 'being the first to' means, but take the earlier context of the scene out and this seems quite like something Bombadil could say in Tolkien's story.

  • @lunaboy1977
    @lunaboy1977 День тому +4

    This episode broke me as well. I couldn’t even hate watch until the end. Didn’t even finish it. It was so bad I think that that’s it for me

  • @lluscheri
    @lluscheri День тому +2

    Can't wait for season 3, where the orcs fly the pride flag, are vegan and eat gluten-free food.

  • @ragnarokivae6136
    @ragnarokivae6136 День тому +5

    Absolutely understandable. I'm glad I watched not a single episode of this abomination. I just enjoyed your reviews

  • @ash23neuro
    @ash23neuro День тому +4

    Ever since Galadriel jumped overboard and swam across Belegaer, I've been trying to get the best out of this show. I expected an interesting show about the events of the Second Age based on Tolkien's chronology, and what I got was a funny show featuring the imagined visions of showrunners/writers of questionable dramatic talent, woven into a timeline twisted at ill will...

  • @Rel3D
    @Rel3D День тому +3

    Your scoring session at the end was more entertaining and well written then a season and 6 episodes of Amazon attempt at telling an already established well loved tale poorly lmao well done. Keep up the great work!

  • @scorpio_9810
    @scorpio_9810 День тому +2

    It's not that the show doesn't even attempt to follow the lore; it's just that the writing is appalling. They could have made a fan fiction and some of us would still enjoy it, if it were well written and acted. This scab is not it.

  • @andykoren7627
    @andykoren7627 День тому +7

    Live to fight anhoter day, this shit sucks your soul like the one ring.

  • @damienruzco
    @damienruzco 19 годин тому +1

    Young screaming somewhat frustrated Galadriel was 10x scarier that green demon treacherous as the sea Galadriel

  • @gargonauts
    @gargonauts День тому +3

    I'll be sad to not have your review videos on Rings of Power as I always look forward to them. That being said, it's hard enough for me to watch, so I can imagine how soul draining it would be to have to take notes and edit videos, and rarely have anything positive to say about it, so I 100% understand why would you stop.

  • @chandran4799
    @chandran4799 День тому +3

    I think Amazon has doubled the money being paid to Nerd of the Rings , to keep praising it while this shit show goes down the same hole where pippin threw the rock .. RIP

  • @exnihiloism
    @exnihiloism День тому +3

    We all deeply honour the sacrifices you've made to endure this abomination so we don't have to. Go be at peace, mellon.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek
    @CuivTheLazyGeek 22 години тому +4

    I broke on this same episode. The previous episode was almost decent but this one... Tom Yodadil being a mentor to Lukedalf, spewing nonsense about the secret fire, and then misusing my favorite quote of the whole Lord of the Rings to mean something completely opposite (it's fine to let your friends die if it's for a good cause) just... It killed me. I can't watch this anymore...

  • @visitingforgefather5997
    @visitingforgefather5997 День тому +8

    Wait, why would the King's Men and Ar-Pharazon leave anyones judgement up to the Valar?
    Isn't the whole deal with those guys the fact they hate the Valar and Elves because, in their arrogance and growing decadence, they were jealous of the Elves their immortality and despised the Ban of the Valar?
    Wouldn't they just go 'Screw the Valar Ar-Pharazon rules Numenor his judgment is the only one that matters.'
    Why did that scene with the Dwarf lady and her bat army, seriously the f*ck, even exist if Sauron gets his hands on mithril anyway?
    Why does that lady insist Elendil refuses to bend the knee out of pride? Has she considered that he probably swore oaths and in this world casually breaking oaths has consequences? Or maybe that he is just a man of principle? (Yes I know I'm expecting too much assuming these 'writers' and showrunners even understand what principles are.)
    Can't blame you for not even bothering anymore, hope you can recover from this mess.

    • @Yugemos
      @Yugemos 12 годин тому +2

      Because Diversity Disa needs screen time. They are coming with all kinds of nonsense scenes for her to be in.

    • @visitingforgefather5997
      @visitingforgefather5997 9 годин тому

      @@Yugemos Ah yes of course, silly me.
      It's not like there was any other way to give her screen time or a purpose in the plot.
      Imagine if they did something as silly as have her be ignored by Ar-Pharazon after he forcefully married her and saw no more value in her now that he was king of Numenor.
      Imagine doing something so silly as her making use of that arrogance by having her use the few servants and guards still, covertly, loyal to her as a small spy network in court to help Amandil, Elendils father, in his attempts to shield the Fateful Numenorians from the persecutions of the King's Men.
      Imagine them doing something so stupid like having her have a hand in Isildurs infiltration of the court to save one of the fruits of the White Tree, since she would know about her fathers prophecy that the line of Kings will last as long as the line of the Tree did.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 43 хвилини тому

      I think the obvious answer to your first question is that in the history of Númenor, there has never been a survivor who came up out of the ocean. 100% had been eaten. In other words, it was supposed to be a death penalty but Eru or Ulmo or Ossë intervened to save Míriel.
      So she can marry her first cousin.😞

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 40 хвилин тому

      Apparently, Narvi gave some Mithril to Annatar. I guess he thought he was Celebrimbor.🙄

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 32 хвилини тому

      Eärien is supposed to be Elendil's daughter, but she clearly doesn't have a clue what kind of man her father is. She is the worst character in the whole series. She gets into the Architect Guild in Season 1, making her Dad very proud. She meets Kemen, Pharazôn's son, and likes him. From that point on, her relationship with Kemen and his father became more important to her than her actual family.
      We are supposed to think that she is mad at her father for allowing her brother Isildur to go to the Southlands to die.
      Then she gets promoted to girl-boss, but sux at it, as does Kemen suck at leading the King's Men.
      Those two should marry and jump into the sea for their honeymoon. I am sure the Sea Worm will treat them properly.

  • @elck3
    @elck3 19 годин тому +1

    No please don’t stop your reviews of the episodes! Just two more left! Your reviews are the only things I look forward to with this show.

  • @thundercliff93
    @thundercliff93 День тому +2

    “Tolkien has become a monster, devoured by his own popularity and absorbed into the absurdity of our time. The chasm between the beauty and seriousness of the work, and what it has become, has overwhelmed me. The commercialization has reduced the aesthetic and philosophical impact of the creation to nothing. There is only one solution for me: to turn my head away.”
    ― Christopher Tolkien

    • @troffle
      @troffle День тому

      This is beautiful. Do you have the source please?

    • @thundercliff93
      @thundercliff93 День тому +1

      @@troffle I believe it is from an interview him on by Le Monde. In it he also criticized the Peter Jackson films for being action movies for teenagers.

    • @troffle
      @troffle День тому

      @@thundercliff93 will hunt it down. Thank you.
      AH
      Found through a combination of a the Wayback Machine hitting an archive by WorldCrunch.
      ... you know, I accepted the PJ movies, with their differences, until I heard somebody defending changes in RoP based on "but we know that's why the Elves needed the rings, to prevent their own weakening" from the movies. And that's when I became one of those defending the books from the movies.
      ... and then I read:
      With the incredible box office figures, the lawyers for the family shook the dust off the contract and demanded their share of the pie from New Line, the American producer of the films, who had bought the movie rights for Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. And surprise! Cathleen Blackburn, lawyer for the Tolkien Estate in Oxford, recounts ironically, "These hugely popular films apparently did not make any profit! We were receiving statements saying that the producers did not owe the Tolkien Estate a dime."
      And the article's last paragraph ends with: "It is hard to say who has won this silent battle between popularity and respect for the text."
      ... it is to weep.

  • @BehindThePringles
    @BehindThePringles День тому +3

    If Sauron knew about the Balrog in Moria (which he didn't), I'm pretty sure he's make it a priority to recruit/subjugate it, given it's essentially a hugely powerful weapon if you can control it. In RoP, its just a memberberry an Age out of place.

  • @annienglish4378
    @annienglish4378 День тому +7

    You've done your duty, rest now. ❤

    • @JulieWilliams-i9f
      @JulieWilliams-i9f День тому +2

      "Lay down your sleepy head".
      This is a false illusion from Sauron.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 24 хвилини тому

      ​@@JulieWilliams-i9f
      😈------>😴 Look out!!😱

  • @Zensor0815
    @Zensor0815 День тому +6

    You missed the opportunity to say "I find it hard en-Durin them"

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +1

      lol

    • @Yugemos
      @Yugemos 12 годин тому

      One could say it's the bane of his existence at this point.

  • @aunggatshah4243
    @aunggatshah4243 20 годин тому +3

    Myfordd Clark would need an actual ring of power to rebuild her acting career after this.

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  19 годин тому

      😂😂

    • @Yugemos
      @Yugemos 12 годин тому

      I wonder if the next villain in her career will get two extra S's added to his name. Sounds like she's impersonating a snake.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 17 хвилин тому

      Would that be an engagement ring?💍🤣😂😆

  • @ecthelionofthefountain8267
    @ecthelionofthefountain8267 День тому +2

    Oh no! Not you too. To be fair I died on a hill a long time ago. I'm glad you're focusing more on Tolkien's lore from now on and not this horrendous show.

  • @mrcat3493
    @mrcat3493 День тому +3

    Morgoth’s crown was such nonsense, that is not where the crown is. I still don’t understand who the show is for they use names and characters that have a lot of meaning and backstory that the casual fan would have no idea who that is and it just infuriates those of us that are familiar with the source material.

  • @anna_luin
    @anna_luin День тому +5

    I've watched the episode now and fully understand why it broke you. Thanks for the reviews. Looking forward to upcoming non ROP content :)

    • @CounciloftheRings
      @CounciloftheRings  День тому +1

      Thank you! You've I'm excited to see how people react to it

  • @Enerdhil
    @Enerdhil День тому +2

    Galadriel was very rude to not eat the food on her plate or thank Adar for being such a kind host

  • @TheSaltyAdmiral
    @TheSaltyAdmiral 17 годин тому +2

    *_"Sure it might not be as profitable"_* Thank you for that honesty and actually stopping, when you don't like it. You just pointed out my biggest problem with a lot of "critic" channels. They earn so much money from tapping into the "anti-woke", "culture war" BS that it's hard to believe anything they say. I mean even if RoP somehow gave out an episode that was absolutely as perfect it could have been, channels like Nerdcrotic and Critical Drinker would still make their stupid thumbnails and pretend it the worst episode ever, as every episode is. I understand why people don't like it, and rightly so, *but when it somehow still becomes the biggest part of your life, instead of moving on, something is deeply dishonest.* And this goes for the channel viewers just as much as it's creators.

  • @henrikg1388
    @henrikg1388 День тому +2

    Proto-hobbits live in a fremen sietch, and Elendil having a Tyrion moment...
    Well, have your peace. You deserve it. 🙏