Both Sthil and Husky are excellent saws, I have owned both. I find Stihl harder to start but more reliable. At the end of the day it comes down to buying the brand where you can get the best repair and customer service in your local town. My local town is Sthil and so I now own 2 sthil saws. If I lived close to a Husky town I would probably be owning 2 Husky's. Both manufacturers are good.
I was a Husqvarna man for years. I used them cutting logs. I went to the 044 Stihl and never looked back . Even after I become a paraplegic. I bought the Stihl 391 like the one you have and it works great. About the grease hole. The tip will last longer with out grease. dirt and grit sticks to the grease . Without it the bar oil will keep it clear
I found a 391 on the street, had it checked by my favorite chainsaw mechanic, cost $90.00. I have been using it since and never used my Husqvarna 460, which I loved and was proud to own. The Stihl 391 is a beast. It is the top of the line before going pro. I love that it does not use grease at the tip. From what I hear, the grease makes saw dust get stuck on the grease and it creates problems whereas the Stihl does not have grease at the tip so it stays dry. I love it and don't want to use any other brand. Great video.
I like what you're saying with the Stihl easy compression full chord I have a Husqvarna 359 just as you I use the decompression button on my to start just to make it very easy I'm in total agreement with you my 359 is a beast once I learned how to sharpen a chainsaw correctly which I'm sad to say took a little bit but I have not had anyone they can beat my 359 since I've become the sharpening master I look forward to more of your videos with the the new saw I'm curious myself I've always wanted a Stihl brand chainsaw but have only had Husqvarna once again my 359 is a beast
Actually, the 359 is a commercial saw, easier to work on and probably produces more power. The Stihl is a homeowner's saw but is still a good saw. The flippy caps aren't something most woodcutters want, especially when they leak on you while you're using it..
I have been a Husq chainsaw person from 1980... I bought my first Stihl awhile back and it's been a great saw saw.. I have always run Oregon or Winsdor bars.. I greased the sprocket nose after use each day.. The light weight Stihl bar is a laminated bar, hollow.. The bar rails showed wear after a year where Oregon bars didn't.. Both dealers told me pretty much the same thing.. That sprocket on the nose gets more than enough bar oil and does not need grease.. Stihl is made in VA from what the dealer told me with some components from Germany.. Hope that helps .. Oh I did replace the Stihl bar with an Oregon bar which added more weight out front.. In the passed I have got 15 years service from a bar. I have my bars reground from time to time to extend their life, true up the bar rails in the grinding..
Over the years I have handled a variety of chain saws from inexpensive to expensive professional saws there are lots of good saws and it’s been my experience Stihl chain saws are among the best plain and simple
I've run both Stihl and Husky for close to 35 years. Each has their strengths and weaknesses. I did have a little 192 Stihl that had some sort of spring assist in the recoil, to help start it. It really worked well but they discontinued it the following year. You may have something similar with your saw. And don't count out Echo saws, I just purchased 3 within the last year and I'm thoroughly impressed. I'd never say that 10 years ago. The smallest Echo only weighs 5 pounds and has good power.
i bought a stihl ms391 about 5 years ago and its been great, never any problems, i have a 25" stihl pro bar and an oregon 20" pro bar never greased, yes the ms391 is the biggest saw in the farm/rancher line after that it goes into the pro line
I’ve had a Husqvarna for over 30 years now. It’s cut heaps of wood and still has the same compression when I bought it. It ALWAYS starts on the third pull...ALWAYS.
Great video. I have had Husky 257 saw since 1994 its 57 cc. This saw has performed flawlessly for 25 years. I am not a professional wood cutter but this saw has cut a lot of wood. I'm sure if you take good care of either brand it will take care of you.
Great deal on the Stihl!!😀😀 I do believe the reason the Stihl pulls over easier is that it has a larger diameter recoil spool than the Husky. The bigger the diameter the easier they pull. They are also much easier on the life of the rope. Take care and work safe!!😀😀
I have a husqvarna push mower from when I was a kid. Many years later, I was like, "Damn that thing still runs!" I didn't even take care of it. Left it ouside usually. Stihl and husqvarna are all I buy.
This Stihl ms391 was my first chainsaw it works awesome I've had it for 3 years and still works like a beast. And this is 64.1 CC motor. I would also recommend this saw to anyone that wants a good saw.
Another good video.You got a great deal on the saw.I wish you would get chaps.You work alone,and they could save your legs.Just my two cents.Have a great day in the woods.
Scott Arceneaux totally agree. A good friend of mine actually had an accident last year of his chainsaw kicking back. 123 stitches from his thigh down. Almost lost his knee too. He’s been cutting wood for over 20 years.
I bought a pair of chaps after slicing my knee. Couldn't get out of the woods till evening. Started with paper towels and scotch tape to stop blood. Got out of woods n used butterfly bandages. Got to the ER before dark. After five hours in ER they said to me we have good news n bad news. Good news is your next. Bad is if we use novacaine you're gonna b here alot longer. I said just sew it up doc. He let me put in some of the stitches myself. Good stuff to know. Anyway. I bought safety chaps. Saved a cut on my leg but then you have to replace them. So recommend pair saved my leg again. On my third pair now. I've been cutting for over forty years now.
Some are made in VIRGINIA BEACH, VA and in Germany. I bought a MS 362 last year, love it...tons of power and lighter weight. You got a great deal on your new Stihl! 👍
Woman’s point of view.... I’ve always wanted a Husqvarna... we used them in Oregon where i grew up. My issue was i could never get them started on my own unless we had been running them for a bit. I had 2 older male cousins or my dad to help get the saws going for me... I heard just how easy the Stihl is to start from where I purchased my saw. Im over the moon I can start it myself... on the 3-4 pull !!!
I've used a Stihl 029 , bought it new in 1996 .That saw is the best saw on the market for size and power. The bar tip sprocket gets oiled from the chain/bar oiler E-Matic bar and chain. 029 Super Farm Boss / 18" bar.
I love my O29 with a 16” Bar. Ive had it for over 30 years. I cut about 3 cords a year. Cut some 32” diameter oaks with it. Bought a newer 029 Super & equipped it with a 20” bar.
That's a GREAT deal! I was out the door with 20" bar/hard case/6 pk of mix and a 2 yr warranty for around $750 (2012). You may be interested how mine is running now that's it's been 8 years. It has performed flawlessly for me and seldom takes more than 3 pulls to be up and running (starting the 3 count after the compression button pops up). Admittedly it's gotten casual use (and some BIG trees) and I'm only on the 2nd chain and just recently changed the air filter for grins ($8 on Amazon). I usually run/store it with 95 octane premix gas, a little more $$ but I'll use regular gas and mix for a long session, but the premix gas stores great over a few months and is ready to go at a moment's notice. YEAH, it's a beast weight wise for a home saw. You must be a bigger guy, you were making it look light in your hands when branching that log, like the little MS170 in my hands. Kudos on your purchase.
Way late to the party but that was one heck of a deal on that saw. That bar was perfect, hardly used. I just got one from a old friend for $100.00 it was to heavy for him and he also gave me a farm boss.
Great deal. I got the MS311 because it was cheaper at the dealer. It replaced my 038 AV Super that was 29 years old. The MS311 has the decompression button for starting and following instructions it will start cold with about five pulls, a burp, flick the choke switch up one and pull and it’ll start. I’ve cut a bunch of oak now with the MS311 and Stihl works on torque while Husky works on RPMs. On a 24-30 inch oak let the saw do the work. The new saw isn’t as powerful as the 038 Super but letting it do the work gets it done.
I have a 290 and 170 stihl, and like both. I have a Husqvarna 51 someone just gave me, waiting on a spring for my chain break. It runs good, but not used it until I get break working. Good video, thanks and God bless.
low end Stihl’s are made in China mid and high end saws are made in Germany and USA. The tips of the Stihl do not require greesing, this is much better in the long run as the grease does not catch dust and dirt and get clogged.
As far as the sprocket in the bar goes, the stihl chains have extra grooves and divots on the drive links to carry oil farther around the bar and to the sprocket. Works fine.
I have.been cutting firewood since 1976 and have 2 stihls and a pro Mac 10-10 . My stihls are old enough to be antiques but still work great, one is a028 and the other is a 015av bought both in 1980 and still going strong. Make sure you use fuel without alcohol in your saw and it will last a long time. The bars on the new Stihls have a sealed bearing that is pre lubed and guaranteed for the life of the saw my dealer said
That sounds almost exactly how I got my 391 except for one small change. Some kid over in Georgia bought one. Tried using it once and basically took his kneecap off with it...... I bought it from him but I think I paid closer to 400 or 450
Hi Dale, Yes you got a great deal and the saw looks like it's going to give you excellent service for years to come. Stay safe and happy thanks for the video!
Bought my 391 bout 10 plus years ago. 4.4hp vs the rancher 460 at 3.62hp if your in the game of being a man lol the horsepower is enough to get the Stihl. Variable carb helps too. Nice saw good video bud.
I haven’t always heard good things about husky homeowner saws. But husky pros are fantastic. The pro saws are the ones from Germany. The Stihl homeowner are well respected
I have a husky 362 Auto tune. I've had no problems. I can not use anything but pro saws. Consumer quality saws just frustrate me. If money is tight, I understand buying consumer grade. I'm fortunate in that I can afford pro saws.
I got a MS 250 ( in Canada) it has a sticker, made in Germany on it. Not the pro saw line but it has been great for my occasional use for firewood. You scored a great deal on your 391.
Same weight as my MS311, 13.6lbs. with just the powerhead (2lbs lighter than my MS461) The 311 is 59cc 4.2bhp, the 391 is 63.1cc 4.4bhp. Performance wise the 391 should feel very similar to the older professional grade MS360-362 saws. It should do great with a 20inch bar or so on it. Stihl recommends p to a 20, but it could probably pull a 25" bar and chain in softer wood ok. The 391 has the Intellicarb on it, which adjusts itself automatically to compensate for lost airflow when the air filter starts getting dirty. I've seen a few videos from well known saw builders/porting wizards that say the 391 has a few minor upgrades the other saws in the farm and ranch range don't have like the carb and beffier crank and conecting rod, better crank bearings etc.Overall it should be a great saw for anything short of professional falling/logging. Stihlusa.com has all the specs for their current saws, and you can compare them side by side. My 311 and 461 both had "Made in Germany" stickers on them. My 461 is only about a month old. I believe most of the saws being sold in the US that use the M-tronic (newer computer controlled carb and ignition timing) are being built in the VA plant. They are also making bars and even the plastic covers here in the US now. Supposedly the majority of parts used ot build the saws here are being manufactured here in the US too.
Hi, New Stihls run an elastostart pull cord that reduces strain on the wrist by winding a spring type mechanism as you pull, that’s why it feels like lower compression. The new Husqvarnas also now run a sealed bearing in the bar tip, which needs no grease for the life of the bar, it’s called their x-cut range. Hollow bar inside also, to reduce weight. ( doesnt need grease before bar will wear out). New Husky’s also have flip top fuel/oil caps and other features like push stop that returns to run position on release.
Congrats for buying a new STIHL. You are right, the MS 391 is the biggest 'non-professional' saw in the STIHL program. You did an awsome deal! Thus, maybe this is worth the extra weight. If the weight should be an issue, the next step would be to the professional series. The type nearby would be the MS 261. It come with 4.1 HP but with only 4.9 kg. Anyway, you bought a great saw, man! According the roumors about 'made in Germany': Headquarters, R&D, and most of the production is still located in Germany. According to the longterm business-realitionship to US-Manufacurers, STIHL successfully built up some manufacuring facilities in the US. Most of the STIL-Lovers has to accept that there are some part-manufacturers in China. They are fully controlled by the STIHL headquarters. For the European market, only the STIHL MS 170 series is produced in China. The bigger ones and especially the pro-series is still produced in Germany. As far as I know. Enjoy your new saw, let the chips fly and stay save out in the woods!
Good deal! Other than that, i own a stihl but only use it for light work. When it comes to serious work, i use one of my Husqvarna's. Thanks for sharing with us and good luck with your new saw.
Stihl made everywhere like johndeere. I have an ms362 (pro saw) and have great luck with it, ive found oregon chains to last longer and keep edge longer. The stihl chains do oil better and run faster but curf is narrower so it needs filed more. Open gas cap slow or u will get sprayed( issue with the caps). My stihl did have decomp button but i removed it with a plug. Ive heard horror stories about the stem falling in. If ur saw doesnt already have it, stihl makes a cushioned pull cord handle that makes it easier on the fingers. Stihl consumer saws also have light duty A/V springs and mounts so dont pull and reef on saw too hard if u get it stuck. Husky makes good pro saws but consumer saws are now basically a poulin . Hopefully this is useful
I have a Stihl and a Husqvarna. The Husky has a 20 inch blade and is bigger than the Stihl which is 16 inches. I use the Husky for dropping big trees. The Stihl I use for limbing. Having a backup saw is good for when you accidentally pinch the otber one. I like the Stihl better only because there is a shop that services them close by. Good video! I didn't know where the saws were made.
Nice Saw you got a good deal! While I don't have the chainsaw I do have the Stihl unit with changeable heads where you can change out to different attachments. I have several different items for different jobs, one is the extension shaft with the pole saw to put on the end. Works great to reach way up trimming down limbs. Also have a beast of a leaf blower by Stihl! Run that thing all day long and very powerful. Great buy on the saw but please get some chaps to go with it. Keep them coming!
I’ve noticed that a brand new saw will have less compression versus after Running several tanks of fuel I just got my first Husqvarna 359 and 137 I like the 359 I did a head gasket delete and ported the cylinder. ported the muffler tuned it up and I’m very happy with it I’ve always ran stihl and I cut timber here on the Oregon Coast I’ll tell u if u know how to tune up a saw and truly know how to run it not just start it and make a few cuts I run saw 10-12 hours 7 days a week and the only saw I was not happy with was a ms170 until I did a lot of work to it but now the carburetor keeps going bad in it those non tunable carbs are a pos
I think stihl calls it ergostart? I have a small one for the backyard, ms250c I think, then a Med and larger husky and the little stihl is usually my go to saw for around the house. Those oil and gas caps are awesome as well as the system to remove and tighten the bar and chain. Also in Maine!! Keep up the great vids! Snow on the way Friday!!
Hello my friend hope you’re doin well I work for the maintenance Department for the county I live in and all we’ve got are stihl saws we’ve got half a dozen ms250’s there a work horse very tuf saw get used every day and some days all day long I think you got a hell of a deal and you’ll be very happy with it take care my friend and stay safe
A couple years after you made the video, but my new 391 has "Made in Germany" plastered on it, not only on the bar - maybe the previous owner just peeled off the sticker. The 25" bar for the MS391 (came that way at Ace) has the replaceable tip. The 391 should be a 65cc (tho I don't think that would be much weight-wise). I like mine, it was an upgrade from an MS251C which was a pretty great saw.
You need to wear chaps. Glad you like the saw my husband only has Stihl and loves it. Please wear protect gear you only have to slip and hurt yourself. Happy Thanksgiving keep those videos coming.
Would like to see a video of what u think about ur STIHL saw now... I won’t own anything but a Stihl .. Love em . I have that same saw.. great power for around the farm. “ I think”
I've always owned Stihl, but most my family are loggers and we have several brands in our family. My input is....Husky is lighter, and runs at a higher RPM. Stihl is heavier and more durable and has more torque. It's all user opinion.
File them rakers down a bit and cut faster. I use an old Homelite XL my dad had and still fires up fast and with the correct chain grind, cuts super fast. 👍🏻
I run a dolmar 351 for limbs and small wood up to 10 inches. But the 391 is for the big wood. I cut 8 cords a year and it's never failed yet. Great saw and you got a great deal. But get some leg protection. One kick back and it can take you out. Saw makes a nasty cut in human flesh and bone
I Think Stihl is made Germany or in somewhere in near under EU spec. It s good guality product still .It s professional looking new style and very good deal in dead. Well done.I have smaller one here MS 241 C. And big Jonsered 2186 with long blade. Watch your back my friend and be safe there.
The stihl is 64.5cc. Its top of the line for ranch saws and that doesn't mean everything bigger is a pro saw, they make smaller cc saws that are professional grade, like the 362, it's a 60 cc saw, but way lighter than the 391, better materials I reckon
I can’t switch from my Husqvarna saws my dealer support is unmatched, he’s a factory trained mechanic. My saws never needed repairs but if they ever did my dealer support is there.
I may not even be fully broken in .. as time goes by the compression will go up . ive had new saws where i thought the same thing and after about 10 tanks of fuel . it was much harder to pull over,
The MS391 is 64.1cc and the power head is 13.9lbs. I just bought a MS391 and there is a big sticker on the front that says "Made In Germany". Didn't get the bar or chain, got Oregon.
Stihl and husqvarna made in China now. Most the parts anyway.. bearings and cylinder and plastic might not be made in china. But I might be wrong... I know my husky 450 is Chinese made.. but great saw.
Thank YOU. I'd have paid $10 for a ticket plus a big tub of Buttered Popcorn to graze on as I soaked-up you presented on this 391 RECON. Truly effective in every aspect. I owe you a six-pack of dark german Bock. Virtus Junxit More Non-Seperabit -14*
i think thos stihls have a lastic thing built into the pull cord handle which makes it easyier to pull and you dont feel the compression as much that nmight be it
Tbis is what i know, but dont hold me to it 100% as things change from year to year sometimes. Most all Stihl chainsaws sold in the USA are made in the USA from parts made in several possible countries at Stihl owned plants. Stihl saws still made in Germany are the 441 and larger. At the Stihl plants in other countries they control all aspects and quality of production. As far as Husqvarna, the 2 and 4 series saws are made in the USA at the Poulan factory, maybe why they have a lot of problems and you can find them refurbished all the time. The rest of the Husky saws are made in Sweden. I don't own a Husky, but would love to have one of their Pro saws. As far as Stihl goes they are all good saws, but their Pro series saws are some of the best around.
I'm sure someone has answered the question about where Stihl is made, but from what I've heard they can be made either in the States or Germany. I have an MS 362 made in Germany and I've heard the 362's made in the states are not very good. But the German made ones are way better. Just what I've heard. My saw is awesome.
I have a Stihl MS-391 Farm Boss with a 20" bar and 64.1cc engine. I also have a Echo CS-490-16 with 16" bar and 50.2cc engine I use for light stuff like limbing and pruning. It also makes a great camping saw. I was looking at getting a Husqvarna 435E with a 16" bar and 40.9cc engine until I read a lot of bad reviews on it. It's a piece of crap and is temperamental. It also leaks bar oil while setting out of use. This coupled with the hard starting and running issues lead me to steer clear of it. My Stihl and Echo are much better saws and have tons of power. They haven't bulked at anything I have used them for this far. The Stihl was $599 new and the Echo was $349 new. If you paid $300 for a slightly used MS-391 I would question on whether it was hot or not. A "great deal" would have been $450 - $500. It sounds too good to be true and I would be leary of what and where it came from. Maybe the guy is lying and boosted it somewhere. It happens every single day you know. Even so, it's a beast of a machine and well worth the money even full MSRP price as new. The Echo is equally good and powerful for it's size. I believe BOTH to be far superior to the Husqvarna brand name. Remember they make Poulan......I had a Pro 260 with a 18" bar and 42cc engine. It never ran all that great and was always a pain to get started. I finally burned it up and tossed it. It was $139 new when I purchased it in 2000 from Lowe's. I could put a top end kit on it and a new carb, but why go through all of that for a cheap big box store junker? I ain't going to....not with these new ones. John
I like this husqvarna 359😍😍😍
Both Sthil and Husky are excellent saws, I have owned both. I find Stihl harder to start but more reliable. At the end of the day it comes down to buying the brand where you can get the best repair and customer service in your local town. My local town is Sthil and so I now own 2 sthil saws. If I lived close to a Husky town I would probably be owning 2 Husky's. Both manufacturers are good.
My first Stihl but i have no doubt it will be a work horse.
This is exactly why I bought a Stihl today, and the $200 discount.
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I was a Husqvarna man for years. I used them cutting logs. I went to the 044 Stihl and never looked back . Even after I become a paraplegic. I bought the Stihl 391 like the one you have and it works great. About the grease hole. The tip will last longer with out grease. dirt and grit sticks to the grease . Without it the bar oil will keep it clear
I found a 391 on the street, had it checked by my favorite chainsaw mechanic, cost $90.00. I have been using it since and never used my Husqvarna 460, which I loved and was proud to own. The Stihl 391 is a beast. It is the top of the line before going pro. I love that it does not use grease at the tip. From what I hear, the grease makes saw dust get stuck on the grease and it creates problems whereas the Stihl does not have grease at the tip so it stays dry. I love it and don't want to use any other brand. Great video.
I like what you're saying with the Stihl easy compression full chord I have a Husqvarna 359 just as you I use the decompression button on my to start just to make it very easy I'm in total agreement with you my 359 is a beast once I learned how to sharpen a chainsaw correctly which I'm sad to say took a little bit but I have not had anyone they can beat my 359 since I've become the sharpening master I look forward to more of your videos with the the new saw I'm curious myself I've always wanted a Stihl brand chainsaw but have only had Husqvarna once again my 359 is a beast
The stihl is a great working saw but I wouldn't trade it for a 359! 👍
Go 359 woo woo
Actually, the 359 is a commercial saw, easier to work on and probably produces more power. The Stihl is a homeowner's saw but is still a good saw. The flippy caps aren't something most woodcutters want, especially when they leak on you while you're using it..
I have been a Husq chainsaw person from 1980... I bought my first Stihl awhile back and it's been a great saw saw.. I have always run Oregon or Winsdor bars.. I greased the sprocket nose after use each day.. The light weight Stihl bar is a laminated bar, hollow.. The bar rails showed wear after a year where Oregon bars didn't.. Both dealers told me pretty much the same thing.. That sprocket on the nose gets more than enough bar oil and does not need grease.. Stihl is made in VA from what the dealer told me with some components from Germany.. Hope that helps .. Oh I did replace the Stihl bar with an Oregon bar which added more weight out front.. In the passed I have got 15 years service from a bar. I have my bars reground from time to time to extend their life, true up the bar rails in the grinding..
Over the years I have handled a variety of chain saws from inexpensive to expensive professional saws there are lots of good saws and it’s been my experience Stihl chain saws are among the best plain and simple
I've run both Stihl and Husky for close to 35 years. Each has their strengths and weaknesses. I did have a little 192 Stihl that had some sort of spring assist in the recoil, to help start it. It really worked well but they discontinued it the following year. You may have something similar with your saw. And don't count out Echo saws, I just purchased 3 within the last year and I'm thoroughly impressed. I'd never say that 10 years ago. The smallest Echo only weighs 5 pounds and has good power.
i bought a stihl ms391 about 5 years ago and its been great, never any problems, i have a 25" stihl pro bar and an oregon 20" pro bar never greased, yes the ms391 is the biggest saw in the farm/rancher line after that it goes into the pro line
I’ve had a Husqvarna for over 30 years now. It’s cut heaps of wood and still has the same compression when I bought it. It ALWAYS starts on the third pull...ALWAYS.
Great video. I have had Husky 257 saw since 1994 its 57 cc. This saw has performed flawlessly for 25 years. I am not a professional wood cutter but this saw has cut a lot of wood. I'm sure if you take good care of either brand it will take care of you.
Great deal on the Stihl!!😀😀
I do believe the reason the Stihl pulls over easier is that it has a larger diameter recoil spool than the Husky. The bigger the diameter the easier they pull. They are also much easier on the life of the rope.
Take care and work safe!!😀😀
I just picked up a brand new 391 today and there's a sticker on it that says Made in Germany
I have a husqvarna push mower from when I was a kid. Many years later, I was like, "Damn that thing still runs!" I didn't even take care of it. Left it ouside usually. Stihl and husqvarna are all I buy.
This Stihl ms391 was my first chainsaw it works awesome I've had it for 3 years and still works like a beast. And this is 64.1 CC motor. I would also recommend this saw to anyone that wants a good saw.
Is this the biggest saw before Stihl goes pro? Can you use a 26" bar on it?
@@kevinneumann3845 I have a 28" bar on mine. No problems.
Another good video.You got a great deal on the saw.I wish you would get chaps.You work alone,and they could save your legs.Just my two cents.Have a great day in the woods.
Scott Arceneaux totally agree. A good friend of mine actually had an accident last year of his chainsaw kicking back. 123 stitches from his thigh down. Almost lost his knee too. He’s been cutting wood for over 20 years.
I bought a pair of chaps after slicing my knee. Couldn't get out of the woods till evening. Started with paper towels and scotch tape to stop blood. Got out of woods n used butterfly bandages. Got to the ER before dark. After five hours in ER they said to me we have good news n bad news. Good news is your next. Bad is if we use novacaine you're gonna b here alot longer. I said just sew it up doc. He let me put in some of the stitches myself. Good stuff to know. Anyway. I bought safety chaps. Saved a cut on my leg but then you have to replace them. So recommend pair saved my leg again. On my third pair now. I've been cutting for over forty years now.
It's defective if it's easy to pull no ato decompression
Some are made in VIRGINIA BEACH, VA and in Germany. I bought a MS 362 last year, love it...tons of power and lighter weight. You got a great deal on your new Stihl! 👍
Woman’s point of view.... I’ve always wanted a Husqvarna... we used them in Oregon where i grew up. My issue was i could never get them started on my own unless we had been running them for a bit. I had 2 older male cousins or my dad to help get the saws going for me... I heard just how easy the Stihl is to start from where I purchased my saw. Im over the moon I can start it myself... on the 3-4 pull !!!
I’m a Husky guy, I’m running the rancher 455 and really like it but at $300 I would of snatched that up to, good score!
I had a Stihl 390 for years. Great saw! I paid $499.00 for it in 1999, so you got an awesome deal. Enjoy!
I've used a Stihl 029 , bought it new in 1996 .That saw is the best saw on the market for size and power. The bar tip sprocket gets oiled from the chain/bar oiler E-Matic bar and chain. 029 Super Farm Boss / 18" bar.
I love my O29 with a 16” Bar. Ive had it for over 30 years. I cut about 3 cords a year. Cut some 32” diameter oaks with it. Bought a newer 029 Super & equipped it with a 20” bar.
That's a GREAT deal! I was out the door with 20" bar/hard case/6 pk of mix and a 2 yr warranty for around $750 (2012). You may be interested how mine is running now that's it's been 8 years. It has performed flawlessly for me and seldom takes more than 3 pulls to be up and running (starting the 3 count after the compression button pops up). Admittedly it's gotten casual use (and some BIG trees) and I'm only on the 2nd chain and just recently changed the air filter for grins ($8 on Amazon). I usually run/store it with 95 octane premix gas, a little more $$ but I'll use regular gas and mix for a long session, but the premix gas stores great over a few months and is ready to go at a moment's notice. YEAH, it's a beast weight wise for a home saw. You must be a bigger guy, you were making it look light in your hands when branching that log, like the little MS170 in my hands. Kudos on your purchase.
Way late to the party but that was one heck of a deal on that saw. That bar was perfect, hardly used. I just got one from a old friend for $100.00 it was to heavy for him and he also gave me a farm boss.
Great deal. I got the MS311 because it was cheaper at the dealer. It replaced my 038 AV Super that was 29 years old. The MS311 has the decompression button for starting and following instructions it will start cold with about five pulls, a burp, flick the choke switch up one and pull and it’ll start. I’ve cut a bunch of oak now with the MS311 and Stihl works on torque while Husky works on RPMs. On a 24-30 inch oak let the saw do the work. The new saw isn’t as powerful as the 038 Super but letting it do the work gets it done.
I have a 290 and 170 stihl, and like both. I have a Husqvarna 51 someone just gave me, waiting on a spring for my chain break. It runs good, but not used it until I get break working. Good video, thanks and God bless.
low end Stihl’s are made in China mid and high end saws are made in Germany and USA.
The tips of the Stihl do not require greesing, this is much better in the long run as the grease does not catch dust and dirt and get clogged.
its allways handy to have a spare one you never now when you need it good deal there.
As far as the sprocket in the bar goes, the stihl chains have extra grooves and divots on the drive links to carry oil farther around the bar and to the sprocket. Works fine.
Stihl is a 64cc Husqvarna is a 59cc. Just for those who were wondering.
I have.been cutting firewood since 1976 and have 2 stihls and a pro Mac 10-10 . My stihls are old enough to be antiques but still work great, one is a028 and the other is a 015av bought both in 1980 and still going strong. Make sure you use fuel without alcohol in your saw and it will last a long time.
The bars on the new Stihls have a sealed bearing that is pre lubed and guaranteed for the life of the saw my dealer said
I have both saws & love them but the391 is a beast
That sounds almost exactly how I got my 391 except for one small change. Some kid over in Georgia bought one. Tried using it once and basically took his kneecap off with it...... I bought it from him but I think I paid closer to 400 or 450
Hi Dale, Yes you got a great deal and the saw looks like it's going to give you excellent service for years to come. Stay safe and happy thanks for the video!
Bought my 391 bout 10 plus years ago. 4.4hp vs the rancher 460 at 3.62hp if your in the game of being a man lol the horsepower is enough to get the Stihl. Variable carb helps too. Nice saw good video bud.
Nice score on the saw!! Just a thought, you should pick up a pair of chaps. They might save an injury one day. You are out there alone.
Roger that.
With the stihl saws, alot of them have a recoil start now. You pull the cord and let it go, it'll fire up with ease
I haven’t always heard good things about husky homeowner saws. But husky pros are fantastic. The pro saws are the ones from Germany. The Stihl homeowner are well respected
The Stihl ms391 should be manufactured in Virginia Beach, Virginia which is Stihl headquarters in the US.
That's good to hear!
Yeah, but the parts came from China. It's only assembled in USA.
@@bart1289 Very well then, buy a chainsaw that's made in China.
@@bart1289 As i am dissapointed in Chinese products. If we'd had in my country American products, Jeesus, it' will be like striking gold!
The professional saws are still made in Germany. The 391 is still considered a farm and ranch saw.
You got a great deal. Good luck with it.
I have a husky 362 Auto tune. I've had no problems. I can not use anything but pro saws.
Consumer quality saws just frustrate me. If money is tight, I understand buying consumer grade. I'm fortunate in that I can afford pro saws.
Can't stand the plastic handle....
I got a MS 250 ( in Canada) it has a sticker, made in Germany on it. Not the pro saw line but it has been great for my occasional use for firewood. You scored a great deal on your 391.
Same weight as my MS311, 13.6lbs. with just the powerhead (2lbs lighter than my MS461) The 311 is 59cc 4.2bhp, the 391 is 63.1cc 4.4bhp. Performance wise the 391 should feel very similar to the older professional grade MS360-362 saws. It should do great with a 20inch bar or so on it. Stihl recommends p to a 20, but it could probably pull a 25" bar and chain in softer wood ok. The 391 has the Intellicarb on it, which adjusts itself automatically to compensate for lost airflow when the air filter starts getting dirty. I've seen a few videos from well known saw builders/porting wizards that say the 391 has a few minor upgrades the other saws in the farm and ranch range don't have like the carb and beffier crank and conecting rod, better crank bearings etc.Overall it should be a great saw for anything short of professional falling/logging. Stihlusa.com has all the specs for their current saws, and you can compare them side by side. My 311 and 461 both had "Made in Germany" stickers on them. My 461 is only about a month old. I believe most of the saws being sold in the US that use the M-tronic (newer computer controlled carb and ignition timing) are being built in the VA plant. They are also making bars and even the plastic covers here in the US now. Supposedly the majority of parts used ot build the saws here are being manufactured here in the US too.
I have a ms311 I put a 25 inch sabre bar on it with the most aggressive chain they make and it walks through oak like melted butter
Hi,
New Stihls run an elastostart pull cord that reduces strain on the wrist by winding a spring type mechanism as you pull, that’s why it feels like lower compression.
The new Husqvarnas also now run a sealed bearing in the bar tip, which needs no grease for the life of the bar, it’s called their x-cut range. Hollow bar inside also, to reduce weight. ( doesnt need grease before bar will wear out).
New Husky’s also have flip top fuel/oil caps and other features like push stop that returns to run position on release.
That's great, thanks for the info. I love that elastostart pull!
Congrats for buying a new STIHL. You are right, the MS 391 is the biggest 'non-professional' saw in the STIHL program. You did an awsome deal! Thus, maybe this is worth the extra weight. If the weight should be an issue, the next step would be to the professional series. The type nearby would be the MS 261. It come with 4.1 HP but with only 4.9 kg. Anyway, you bought a great saw, man! According the roumors about 'made in Germany': Headquarters, R&D, and most of the production is still located in Germany. According to the longterm business-realitionship to US-Manufacurers, STIHL successfully built up some manufacuring facilities in the US. Most of the STIL-Lovers has to accept that there are some part-manufacturers in China. They are fully controlled by the STIHL headquarters. For the European market, only the STIHL MS 170 series is produced in China. The bigger ones and especially the pro-series is still produced in Germany. As far as I know. Enjoy your new saw, let the chips fly and stay save out in the woods!
I have used Stihl, they are great for about 3 years, then they develop carburation problems, husqui is the best choice.
Good deal! Other than that, i own a stihl but only use it for light work. When it comes to serious work, i use one of my Husqvarna's. Thanks for sharing with us and good luck with your new saw.
Stihl made everywhere like johndeere. I have an ms362 (pro saw) and have great luck with it, ive found oregon chains to last longer and keep edge longer. The stihl chains do oil better and run faster but curf is narrower so it needs filed more. Open gas cap slow or u will get sprayed( issue with the caps). My stihl did have decomp button but i removed it with a plug. Ive heard horror stories about the stem falling in. If ur saw doesnt already have it, stihl makes a cushioned pull cord handle that makes it easier on the fingers. Stihl consumer saws also have light duty A/V springs and mounts so dont pull and reef on saw too hard if u get it stuck. Husky makes good pro saws but consumer saws are now basically a poulin . Hopefully this is useful
I have a Stihl and a Husqvarna. The Husky has a 20 inch blade and is bigger than the Stihl which is 16 inches. I use the Husky for dropping big trees. The Stihl I use for limbing. Having a backup saw is good for when you accidentally pinch the otber one. I like the Stihl better only because there is a shop that services them close by. Good video! I didn't know where the saws were made.
Me Stihl Fan too,,its n great Machine!Just for daily work.
I’m a husky guy also but if a deal like what you got came by I would buy it in a heartbeat. Great video
I have a stihl ms 391 and is amazing saw, is very good
Nice Saw you got a good deal! While I don't have the chainsaw I do have the Stihl unit with changeable heads where you can change out to different attachments. I have several different items for different jobs, one is the extension shaft with the pole saw to put on the end. Works great to reach way up trimming down limbs. Also have a beast of a leaf blower by Stihl! Run that thing all day long and very powerful. Great buy on the saw but please get some chaps to go with it. Keep them coming!
I’ve noticed that a brand new saw will have less compression versus after
Running several tanks of fuel I just got my first Husqvarna 359 and 137 I like the 359 I did a head gasket delete and ported the cylinder. ported the muffler tuned it up and I’m very happy with it I’ve always ran stihl and I cut timber here on the Oregon Coast I’ll tell u if u know how to tune up a saw and truly know how to run it not just start it and make a few cuts I run saw 10-12 hours 7 days a week and the only saw I was not happy with was a ms170 until I did a lot of work to it but now the carburetor keeps going bad in it those non tunable carbs are a pos
359 waayyy better saw
You got a really great deal. Always use 89 octane, no need to grease the tip. thanks
I have a 359G for abt 20 years and its heavy but a beast. So the stihl is heavier, oh man.
I think stihl calls it ergostart? I have a small one for the backyard, ms250c I think, then a Med and larger husky and the little stihl is usually my go to saw for around the house. Those oil and gas caps are awesome as well as the system to remove and tighten the bar and chain. Also in Maine!! Keep up the great vids! Snow on the way Friday!!
yes, looks like about 8" coming Friday. Could be messy.
Hello my friend hope you’re doin well I work for the maintenance Department for the county I live in and all we’ve got are stihl saws we’ve got half a dozen ms250’s there a work horse very tuf saw get used every day and some days all day long I think you got a hell of a deal and you’ll be very happy with it take care my friend and stay safe
A couple years after you made the video, but my new 391 has "Made in Germany" plastered on it, not only on the bar - maybe the previous owner just peeled off the sticker. The 25" bar for the MS391 (came that way at Ace) has the replaceable tip. The 391 should be a 65cc (tho I don't think that would be much weight-wise). I like mine, it was an upgrade from an MS251C which was a pretty great saw.
You need to wear chaps. Glad you like the saw my husband only has Stihl and loves it. Please wear protect gear you only have to slip and hurt yourself. Happy Thanksgiving keep those videos coming.
very nice saw for sure !!
Would like to see a video of what u think about ur STIHL saw now... I won’t own anything but a Stihl .. Love em . I have that same saw.. great power for around the farm. “ I think”
I've always owned Stihl, but most my family are loggers and we have several brands in our family. My input is....Husky is lighter, and runs at a higher RPM.
Stihl is heavier and more durable and has more torque.
It's all user opinion.
File them rakers down a bit and cut faster. I use an old Homelite XL my dad had and still fires up fast and with the correct chain grind, cuts super fast. 👍🏻
I run a dolmar 351 for limbs and small wood up to 10 inches. But the 391 is for the big wood. I cut 8 cords a year and it's never failed yet. Great saw and you got a great deal. But get some leg protection. One kick back and it can take you out. Saw makes a nasty cut in human flesh and bone
The 391 is a farming and landscape saw
stihl has factorys around the world.This one is made i Virginia
they are all good saws, husky, stihl, johnsorud, , cant spell them foreign names to well, good care and a sharp chain is where it is at
I Think Stihl is made Germany or in somewhere in near under EU spec. It s good guality product still .It s professional looking new style and very good deal in dead. Well done.I have smaller one here MS 241 C. And big Jonsered 2186 with long blade. Watch your back my friend and be safe there.
And originel chain is mostly cheap one .Oregon chain is better .
The stihl is 64.5cc. Its top of the line for ranch saws and that doesn't mean everything bigger is a pro saw, they make smaller cc saws that are professional grade, like the 362, it's a 60 cc saw, but way lighter than the 391, better materials I reckon
Yes Chaps please they work when needed 👍
You'll change your mind about the Stihl gas and oil caps. Best carry some spares.
I can’t switch from my Husqvarna saws my dealer support is unmatched, he’s a factory trained mechanic. My saws never needed repairs but if they ever did my dealer support is there.
let me anser your question about compresion.Evry Stihl or Husqvarna profesional saws has compresion boton.Ptes it evry time when you start it.
The decompression kicks on when you pull it without ut
Finally someone who can pronounce Husqvarna correctly! I love my Stihl's, and you got an awesome deal.
not correct if in Sweden
Also nice to hear Stihl pronounced correctly.
Wrong pronouncing Stihl . Just listen some Germans and you will learn.
Yes top of the line farm and ranch yes made in Germany
Like a hot knife thru butter. Fantastic job. Just be careful they cut people too
always careful! ;)
If I had one saw to take to war it would be a husky 346xp with a 16" bar and chain......hands down.
If you used a small limbing saw instead of your 391 to limb it would be safer and less fatigue
Yes, I didn't mention it but I also have a husqvarna 340 for those type of jobs.
Husky chain break is my hold up.
I may not even be fully broken in .. as time goes by the compression will go up . ive had new saws where i thought the same thing and after about 10 tanks of fuel . it was much harder to pull over,
The MS391 is 64.1cc and the power head is 13.9lbs. I just bought a MS391 and there is a big sticker on the front that says "Made In Germany". Didn't get the bar or chain, got Oregon.
Stihl and husqvarna made in China now. Most the parts anyway.. bearings and cylinder and plastic might not be made in china. But I might be wrong... I know my husky 450 is Chinese made.. but great saw.
Thank YOU. I'd have paid $10 for a ticket plus a big tub of Buttered Popcorn to graze on as I soaked-up you presented on this 391 RECON. Truly effective in every aspect. I owe you a six-pack of dark german Bock. Virtus Junxit More Non-Seperabit -14*
i think thos stihls have a lastic thing built into the pull cord handle which makes it easyier to pull and you dont feel the compression as much that nmight be it
You have a pro saw. Stihl is a big home owner saw.
Tbis is what i know, but dont hold me to it 100% as things change from year to year sometimes. Most all Stihl chainsaws sold in the USA are made in the USA from parts made in several possible countries at Stihl owned plants. Stihl saws still made in Germany are the 441 and larger. At the Stihl plants in other countries they control all aspects and quality of production. As far as Husqvarna, the 2 and 4 series saws are made in the USA at the Poulan factory, maybe why they have a lot of problems and you can find them refurbished all the time. The rest of the Husky saws are made in Sweden. I don't own a Husky, but would love to have one of their Pro saws. As far as Stihl goes they are all good saws, but their Pro series saws are some of the best around.
Thanks for the info.
shawn engstrom the ms 311 and 391 are made in Germany
I'm sure someone has answered the question about where Stihl is made, but from what I've heard they can be made either in the States or Germany. I have an MS 362 made in Germany and I've heard the 362's made in the states are not very good. But the German made ones are way better. Just what I've heard. My saw is awesome.
Use the $300+ you saved and buy some Icy Hot for your arms. I would jump on a deal like that in a heartbeat.
I love it when people call them steals/steel's
Yes you got a great deal
And that bar with no hole is just part of their ematic oiling system, basically uses all the oil with very little waste. All on the stihl site.
Hi
Just got a new husky bar for my xp 386 and it does not have lube holes. Just an fyi. Great video.
Yeah great deal great saw. Stihl has what they call elasto start, it’s a dampener in the handle just makes it easier without a big shock load.
It has a smaller/shorter piston stroke so that makes it easier to pull it's a $tihl
I have a Stihl MS-391 Farm Boss with a 20" bar and 64.1cc engine. I also have a Echo CS-490-16 with 16" bar and 50.2cc engine I use for light stuff like limbing and pruning. It also makes a great camping saw. I was looking at getting a Husqvarna 435E with a 16" bar and 40.9cc engine until I read a lot of bad reviews on it. It's a piece of crap and is temperamental. It also leaks bar oil while setting out of use. This coupled with the hard starting and running issues lead me to steer clear of it. My Stihl and Echo are much better saws and have tons of power. They haven't bulked at anything I have used them for this far. The Stihl was $599 new and the Echo was $349 new. If you paid $300 for a slightly used MS-391 I would question on whether it was hot or not. A "great deal" would have been $450 - $500. It sounds too good to be true and I would be leary of what and where it came from. Maybe the guy is lying and boosted it somewhere. It happens every single day you know. Even so, it's a beast of a machine and well worth the money even full MSRP price as new. The Echo is equally good and powerful for it's size. I believe BOTH to be far superior to the Husqvarna brand name. Remember they make Poulan......I had a Pro 260 with a 18" bar and 42cc engine. It never ran all that great and was always a pain to get started. I finally burned it up and tossed it. It was $139 new when I purchased it in 2000 from Lowe's. I could put a top end kit on it and a new carb, but why go through all of that for a cheap big box store junker? I ain't going to....not with these new ones.
John
Work horse. Very good deal you got and proud for you. I own 2 Sthil saws. Husky is good as well but i favor Sthil..