Why Is Transformers War for Cybertron Loved?

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  • @VirtualLegacy
    @VirtualLegacy  Рік тому +31

    If you want to remember some more gems from the Xbox 360/PS3 era check out my retrospective on Star Wars the Force Unleashed here: ua-cam.com/video/H16Z61CRRT4/v-deo.html

  • @Bcd31997
    @Bcd31997 Рік тому +589

    War and fall of cybertron need to make a comeback for current gen systems, its my favorite generation of transformers to this day

    • @VirtualLegacy
      @VirtualLegacy  Рік тому +42

      I would love to see the games get remasters

    • @TheBlackKakashi
      @TheBlackKakashi Рік тому

      It did a few years back. Both games were remastered

    • @ayaannazir7308
      @ayaannazir7308 Рік тому

      @@TheBlackKakashiwait they did?

    • @confluxes5514
      @confluxes5514 Рік тому +20

      @@ayaannazir7308 I think he means the backwards compatibility for Xbox that I think they removed.

    • @irishempire9811
      @irishempire9811 Рік тому

      i hope for a double remaster of both someday

  • @yoshidinono8095
    @yoshidinono8095 8 місяців тому +94

    War for Cybertron got the physics JUST RIGHT. You can hit a ramp as a car. Transform into robot in mid-air. And then continue that momentum by sliding on your feet when you landed, while shooting. It was *perfect.*

    • @devilmayclarify666
      @devilmayclarify666 7 місяців тому +8

      Yes, you get it! Was kind of disappointed by FOC's vehicle mode

    • @milkedbag9212
      @milkedbag9212 5 місяців тому +1

      You guys aware the MP + escalation servers are back online across all TF games? The team behind all this is TF-re-energized! 🙌 They’re here on YT and on discord. Everyday new people join in, all of us round up and play!

  • @fernfernacelli
    @fernfernacelli 9 місяців тому +92

    WfC, FoC, and Devastation are (to me) the absolute epitome of the franchise.

  • @Breadn11
    @Breadn11 Рік тому +177

    This and Fall of Cybertron were my childhood. I have so many fond memories of staying up late trying to get high rounds in escalation.
    Great retrospective, by the way. Great to see people still remember this game.

  • @GG_Canti
    @GG_Canti 9 місяців тому +62

    The multiplayer was so good. Spent so much time in this game. I’ll never forget reaching higher waves on escalation or the glitch at Broken Hope to open certain doors.

    • @aeonversestudios01
      @aeonversestudios01 9 місяців тому +2

      Using the scientist's disguise ability was my favorite. Unfortunately it didn't fool anyone with a decent eye for multiplayer mechanics

    • @PurpleTrooper
      @PurpleTrooper 9 місяців тому +1

      faaacts

    • @ignotiev
      @ignotiev 9 місяців тому +1

      One of my favorite things to do was zoom up to a platform as a scout in vehicle mood, jump, transform and double jump, and then transform again on the landing. It was such a smooth experience that it was a great way to escape pursuers.

    • @pacotaco1246
      @pacotaco1246 8 місяців тому +1

      I miss the multiplayer so badly. We need click-to-transform gameplay return to online gaming

    • @GG_Canti
      @GG_Canti 7 місяців тому

      @@ignotiev ik what u mean. Scout was my best class. I would zoom jump do the barrel roll transform at the peak then sometimes it’d let u jump again. Good times. Felt like a movie

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
    @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 Рік тому +152

    Because it's not a game, nor is it simply a movie, granted it is "THE" movie we all have wanted, It is a work of art, a literal Shakespearean theater piece come to the consoles,

  • @derekosoriomartinez5974
    @derekosoriomartinez5974 Рік тому +58

    These games have forever shaped the lore and the history of Transformers, from it’s amazing plot, and it’s sequel series, which characterize Megatron as a Revolutionary turned Tyrannt, I hope Reactivate lives to be almost to hopefully as great as War for/ Fall of Cybertron

    • @bluewinter-e5u
      @bluewinter-e5u Рік тому +3

      I love war for Cybertron let's hope you're right about it

    • @magnusprime962
      @magnusprime962 7 місяців тому +2

      Megatron as a revolutionary started earlier than these games. It was first done in IDW's 'Megatron: Origins' comic. That said, the Aligned continuity established it as the standard Megatron origin going forward.

  • @periclod1877
    @periclod1877 Рік тому +70

    8:15 Megatron just casually kick flips himself

  • @titanapd9647
    @titanapd9647 9 місяців тому +16

    I actually did find out that trypticon's size is fairly consistent with the orbital station, he's about double the size of omega supreme when comparing the two side by side; I think the reason why he looks smaller is because he's crouching down

    • @guywiththesly3321
      @guywiththesly3321 8 місяців тому

      no he is not LMAO he is exactly the size of omega supreme
      source: I just did the boss fight

    • @titanapd9647
      @titanapd9647 8 місяців тому +2

      @@guywiththesly3321 my source: I compared the two official models right next to each other

  • @ProfessorAlexSilver
    @ProfessorAlexSilver Рік тому +34

    Surprisingly epic game. I have fond memories of playing it

    • @jetsetsnic5109
      @jetsetsnic5109 Рік тому

      You were the last guy I expected to see here 💀

  • @kidmjr
    @kidmjr 8 місяців тому +8

    I played it on PC and was blown away. The way it portrayed both sides of the conflict and the pacing of it, I was properly satiated.

    • @lucas-kr7xd
      @lucas-kr7xd 7 місяців тому

      howd u get it on pc bro plsss lmk im fiending to play this game again

    • @rythma7984
      @rythma7984 5 місяців тому

      ​@@lucas-kr7xd it was probably on steam before it got delisted but if you want to play it get RPCS3 and go to Vimms Lair and just search transformers up it has this game and every other one there

    • @SifsBestFriend
      @SifsBestFriend 4 місяці тому

      @@lucas-kr7xdI could only play fall, and that was by buying a key straight from Amazon and redeeming it on steam

  • @Panzerboy420
    @Panzerboy420 8 місяців тому +7

    I will never understand why Hasbro hasn’t done a movie about the cyberteonian civil war. Everyone lost their mind when Bumblebee 2018 had a WFC scene at the beginning and for good reason

    • @brucesnow7125
      @brucesnow7125 4 місяці тому

      It would be extremely expensive

  • @silverkingprime2121
    @silverkingprime2121 Рік тому +23

    Really well made retrospective! One thing I just want to mention is that thanks to the user DarkElement that is also on the ReEnergized server managed to transfer DLC maps for online modes and DLC characters to the PC version of the game which is really amazing to experience since I didn't get those on my ps3 version before they were delisted.

  • @novius1051
    @novius1051 Рік тому +8

    Amazing retrospective video about one of my favorite childhood game!
    I'm sure you will enjoy Fall of Cybertron once you play it in the future.

  • @ultronsigma2737
    @ultronsigma2737 7 місяців тому +1

    I replay this game once a week and refresh my memory every time i finish it. Even a century later, the game will never get old

  • @40kfanatics
    @40kfanatics 8 місяців тому +11

    showing Warhammer 40k space marine at 1:50 as a "gears of war clone" couldn't be a more bizarre comparison.
    space marine doesn't even have a cover system

    • @SonOfExcess
      @SonOfExcess 3 місяці тому +2

      100% agree. Stupid and ignorant comparison.

  • @ffffffffffffff43
    @ffffffffffffff43 Рік тому +4

    Brilliant essay and nostalgia throwback for me in uni. Subbed

  • @Roubainx
    @Roubainx Рік тому +6

    There is a physical PC version, I got it when I was 11 in Poland! Now I'm here in Virginia, reminiscing about the good old cybertron days.

  • @kyleRayn
    @kyleRayn 6 місяців тому +2

    For the energon repair ray characters in the campaign, like Soundwave or Thundercracker for example, can use it for their special ability with the floating turret. They take a lot of damage so staying close to it to heal it is ideal.

  • @getsumjr1044
    @getsumjr1044 8 місяців тому +2

    Don't know if this has been commented already, but on pc there is a popular FPS unlock tool that lets you play up to 120 frames. Instantly brings this game to modern standard and maybe beyond! One of my absolute favorite titles of PS3 era

  • @UltimateTS64
    @UltimateTS64 9 місяців тому +4

    They really need to do a remastered dual pack of these games, or just full on remake them. Imagine what they would look like in 4K with Unreal Engine 5 and on PS5 the adaptive triggers and rumble would be insane.

  • @3Kings_Industries
    @3Kings_Industries 9 місяців тому +3

    This game was a solid game changer into unique team formats during the era of shooters and team games.

  • @maxhocks2006
    @maxhocks2006 9 місяців тому +2

    Jet fire and the aireal bots section was my favorite part of the campaign. These two games were great

  • @Handinmapocket
    @Handinmapocket Рік тому +2

    Great video! Really well made in writing, editing and cohesion!
    You deserve a lot more views!

  • @jmorgmate
    @jmorgmate 8 місяців тому +1

    This game and Fall of Cybertron were literally my entire childhood. Must have lost thousands of hours to the multiplayer across both games. Genuinely breaks my heart that we never got another one, and that High Moon are nothing but a support studio for COD games now.

  • @JohnSmith13334
    @JohnSmith13334 9 місяців тому +1

    Incredible games loved the feel fall of cyber torn was incredible and hearing ‘the touch’ made me tear up. Playing as Dinobots in multiplayer. Loved it

  • @skeletor8951
    @skeletor8951 8 місяців тому +2

    The PC version of WFC did in fact have a physical release, I have it. Unfortunately disk drives are not that common on PCs anymore, which left it unplayable for me lol.

    • @D00MNUKEM90K
      @D00MNUKEM90K Місяць тому

      You can buy a usb disk drive

  • @sirrr4881
    @sirrr4881 Рік тому +2

    This was my childhood, god i miss this game so much. So much memories!

  • @legojedi5296
    @legojedi5296 Рік тому +3

    i have so many memories of this game i love it with my entire heart

  • @HiddenChannel
    @HiddenChannel Рік тому +1

    Another amazing video.
    This series really needs a proper conclusion.

  • @Ben942K
    @Ben942K 9 місяців тому +3

    I had the pleasure of playing with the leader on the scoreboard or whatever it was called. This game was really fun and I think BF3 followed after. Great times.

  • @dcspidey1218
    @dcspidey1218 5 місяців тому +1

    I acually like the low quality of colour in wfc it makes the game feel more like a war game as war always feels black and white

  • @_netnavi_
    @_netnavi_ 4 місяці тому +1

    The DS games from the first movie are HELLA slept on

  • @Turtle_D_Money
    @Turtle_D_Money 9 місяців тому +4

    This was such a fun game and in my opinion easily the best transformer game I’ve ever played and I’m 80s baby

  • @ignotiev
    @ignotiev 9 місяців тому +2

    I played on the PS3. I loved the multiplayer so much. While the maps were a little generic, the combat was very intense and very fun. While there was one or two things that I liked that were added in Fall of Cybertron, I felt the attempt at simplifying combat was a mistake. It's my hope that with the arrival of Transformers One next year that Hasbro might consider making an MMO game set on Cybertron or across multiple planets.

  • @StaviPorter
    @StaviPorter 8 місяців тому +1

    Both the campaigns and online matches for war and fall of cybertron were before their time! Definitely would love a comeback of the same game mechanics on the new gen graphics

  • @MrBdog1021
    @MrBdog1021 9 місяців тому +1

    Armada is such an underrated series. Also had the pleasure of watching it growing up. Best Starscream of any series.

  • @Odden8484
    @Odden8484 9 місяців тому +1

    A few years ago, I bought fall of cybertron at gamestop, and when I opened the case, I got the download code for war for cybertron. Literally the best purchase of my life.

  • @TheBlackKakashi
    @TheBlackKakashi Рік тому +22

    Still waiting on a third game

    • @VirtualLegacy
      @VirtualLegacy  Рік тому +3

      It seems unlikely at this point, but we can hope

    • @dalenlewin
      @dalenlewin Рік тому

      @@VirtualLegacy well, there is rise of the dark spark, but we don't talk about that.

    • @autobot1stlieutenantjazz980
      @autobot1stlieutenantjazz980 Рік тому +2

      We don't talk about "the third game"

    • @KaizerSozaye
      @KaizerSozaye 9 місяців тому +2

      We don’t ever mention that embarrassment of a game Rise of the dark spark

    • @explodingdynamite7319
      @explodingdynamite7319 9 місяців тому

      No No No!

  • @jamesconway7695
    @jamesconway7695 9 місяців тому +1

    this is one game that should get remade for next gen console

  • @bitwize
    @bitwize 9 місяців тому +1

    I would rank the campaign a B. It was really solid, I loved the third-person shooter setup that emphasized mobility and the use of your robot abilities (including "changing form") to gain a tactical advantage rather than just bog-standard fire-and-motion tactics. And the story and characters were well done, akin to one of the Transformers comics, with recognizable characters displaying personalities faithful to the G1 originals.
    It's really sad that what I had feared would happen when I played this game has come to pass; and the servers were shut down rendering multiplayer impossible except for those who go out of their way for an unofficial multiplayer setup using DNS spoofing. This and Titanfall 2 are in the category of those games that deserve to live forever, like Doom does.

  • @famalam943
    @famalam943 8 місяців тому +1

    Man, the 3rd game, what the he’ll happened there? We had a good run of 2 games, then just crash & burn hard

  • @docsavage4921
    @docsavage4921 Рік тому +1

    It's loved because you get to fight Omega f'n Supreme in an arena. I remember just before this game came out, all anyone could talk about was how Megatron rose up to Omega's ankle.

  • @SosaXSeraphim
    @SosaXSeraphim 9 місяців тому +1

    I think this games timeline of events was perfect we got the war the fall out and then transformers prime on earth

  • @incognit01233
    @incognit01233 9 місяців тому +2

    This is the cartoon and movie transformer fans wanted to be honest. Would like to see them make a canon version of the original script that was supposed to be done for the og movie.
    Would like if they had a build your own bot type thing.

  • @MajinKakarot1386
    @MajinKakarot1386 9 місяців тому +3

    I am Majinkakarot1386 and I was one of the top players in this game and yes it was so ahead of it self please remake this for us game devs please

  • @TheRandomrandom97
    @TheRandomrandom97 8 місяців тому +1

    campaign banged, escalation banged, multiplayer banged one of the greatest games ever made

  • @titan_redeemer7371
    @titan_redeemer7371 9 місяців тому +1

    I think that, with evidence from the concept art, the final fight arena with Trypticon was originally meant to be far larger to accommodate a fight with him at a more consistent scale

  • @Daneuwill
    @Daneuwill Рік тому +2

    definetly needs more subs

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop 6 місяців тому +1

    That final Trypticon boss fight frikken SUCKS to do.
    It's the one thing that prevented me from getting the hard mode trophy

  • @thehoodedone3822
    @thehoodedone3822 9 місяців тому +1

    I loved this game so much. I use to play it every day after school. 1 day my PS3 just stopped working and I was mentally destroyed! 😂😂

  • @tokusatsukeyblade797
    @tokusatsukeyblade797 9 місяців тому +2

    We need more Transformers games like the Cybertron games.

  • @iisling
    @iisling 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for mentioning the DS versions! I grew up on those before getting it on the Xbox 360. I remember having so much fun as a kid on the ds versions, I still have the deception one today but I’ve grown out of it sadly. I’ll still go back to it one day I’m sure.
    PS: I know you didn’t put that at C???? 😟

  • @jeff_howard_photos
    @jeff_howard_photos 9 місяців тому +3

    Most people forget, but Starscream was never known by that name he used to be name sky commander

  • @Soundwave_0908
    @Soundwave_0908 9 місяців тому +3

    Dark of the Moon is the best tie in movie game, making it a prequel was so much better

    • @abnormalitiesinreality6649
      @abnormalitiesinreality6649 8 місяців тому +2

      Its crazy how they made 2 of the greatest movie tie-in games (X-Men Origines: Wolverine and Dark of the Moon) Not many game development studios can say the same

  • @actionman9451
    @actionman9451 8 місяців тому +1

    We need more games or series that actually focus on the war on Cybertron instead of focusing on them with the humans or landing on Earth.

  • @FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99
    @FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99 Рік тому +1

    Another great video❤ love the transformers really wish this storyline got a conclusion

  • @BoringRoboBoi
    @BoringRoboBoi 9 місяців тому +1

    Don't know if anyone's posted this comment, but there is a physical release for PC, but its difficult to find as far as I'm aware and still reasonably priced (paid $20 for mine on ebay about a year ago)

  • @gimpsickle5806
    @gimpsickle5806 9 місяців тому +2

    Because the gameplay was so solid

  • @Atoku_13
    @Atoku_13 Рік тому +3

    I just got out my Xbox 360 the other day and first thing I did was see if any of my transformer games worked sadly 2 don’t but but the cybertron games still work thankfully and I’m playing both from start to finish to just feel how good it was to play

    • @konstantinivanov1717
      @konstantinivanov1717 9 місяців тому

      Out of curiosity, which are the 2 that don't work?

    • @firepounder
      @firepounder 9 місяців тому

      @@konstantinivanov1717probably the ones based on the movies which is a W

  • @AdamSelvig
    @AdamSelvig 9 місяців тому +2

    War for cybertron is my 3rd transformers game

  • @MeruAileron
    @MeruAileron 9 місяців тому +1

    Yo, I remember playing as Grimlock in this game and just whooping the shit out of Shockwave!
    Edit: I realize now that might've been Fall of Cybertron... still a memorable series of games. Trailers were hype!

  • @daveyfgn
    @daveyfgn 9 місяців тому +2

    SIMPLE….. GREAT STORY/ GAMEPLAY AND GREAT PVP!!!!! If a new transformers game doesn’t have good PvP I’ll wait for a sale

  • @Juju-cm7ge
    @Juju-cm7ge 9 місяців тому +3

    The mp was so underrated

    • @matternot666
      @matternot666 8 місяців тому +1

      the unique bodies you could make were goated

  • @chifuee226
    @chifuee226 Рік тому +2

    There is a physical pc version, I am holding it rn

  • @PhillipOnTakos
    @PhillipOnTakos 2 місяці тому

    I was there for this game's prime (Hah). The Multiplayer was fun but not my favourite (FoC is the best TF multiplayer). The Campaign was good and co-op was a great time. What took this game over the edge was the Escalation mode. I can't tell you how many days I've spent in Escalation alone.
    It might be my favourite "horde" mode in any game. The maps, the difficulty scaling, the character choices that could make any match unique and most importantly the glitches. Breaking through the spawn walls as a car/jet Transformer. The ability to open doors out of sequence on some maps, break out of the maps and explore. Nothing has ever captured that magic again.
    Maybe it's because this was before UA-cam was huge but discovering all of these back in the day was crazy.

  • @God-xd1wr
    @God-xd1wr Рік тому +2

    The Cybertron games are my all time favourite parts of the entire Transformers franchise. Gotta be two of my favourite genders 🙏

  • @TheatreJosh24601
    @TheatreJosh24601 25 днів тому

    War for Cybertron did indeed have a physical release for PC. I have a physical copy.

  • @pacotaco1246
    @pacotaco1246 8 місяців тому +1

    cuz it's the best TF Game and one of the best 3PS Games ever made

  • @ARCtrooperblueleader
    @ARCtrooperblueleader Місяць тому

    WFC and FoC is peak Transformers. ❤️

  • @Krystof_animation
    @Krystof_animation 7 місяців тому

    Nice video🎉

  • @vibespidersstudios8895
    @vibespidersstudios8895 Рік тому

    I say for experience too that performance issues hinder my experience a lot. I’ve been through 2 classes into maya and a lot of teachers and assistant say if you are making a model or animation. Less is always better especially a game. If you put less models in a scene the less time the game doesn’t have to optimize and can run better. To be honest, if wfc probably polish their models by doing decreasing facing or vertices (or whatever they can.) Then yeah I think the performance issue would’ve been fixed and especially on consoles like ps3 and Xbox didn’t have the capability to run a game like this at the best performance at the time. Where a pc probably has the better to run the game.
    Also I didn’t like how slow the robot to alt mode it took.
    Other than that really solid game and I think people should play it and I hope they open the multi player servers again if they put it on ps5/Xbox (they have the codes really to go for remaster the game but I think it is a copyright issue) 😊🙏

  • @realname4430
    @realname4430 6 місяців тому +1

    1:50 is space marine really a gears of war clone? Id argue it has much ot the same strength that the transformers games had.
    You cant even actually take cover in space marine

  • @kaymeachem1619
    @kaymeachem1619 9 місяців тому

    If it’s not able to be downloaded might get the same treatment as metal gear solid and grand theft auto. Getting a version for newer consoles

  • @joshy9140
    @joshy9140 9 місяців тому +1

    good video, although I don't think I'd say Space Marin is a gears clone >.>

  • @wifine1951
    @wifine1951 Рік тому

    The cover art goes hard

  • @cxh_11
    @cxh_11 3 місяці тому

    They need a remaster!

  • @darthdavlo9516
    @darthdavlo9516 Рік тому

    curious how this video comes out around the game´s new toyline being released

  • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
    @aircraftcarrierwo-class Рік тому

    Awfully long video to say "Because it's extremely good", but I appreciate the work that went in.

  • @Ace-rp7vr
    @Ace-rp7vr 8 місяців тому

    Ok the DS games for the first bayformers movie was amazing

  • @expertbacon6447
    @expertbacon6447 9 місяців тому

    It probably doesn't matter but this game came out before they were trying to combine continuity so it was actually canon to the g1 series

  • @matternot666
    @matternot666 8 місяців тому

    it was the first time transformers committed to being mature, too bad they refuse to go that direction in modern media other than comics

  • @kevinhardy8997
    @kevinhardy8997 3 місяці тому

    Just finished replay in Hard. Trypticon is BS. The game still looks good. With a framerate boost and sharper graphics? That would be amazing.

  • @johnprime1147
    @johnprime1147 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for not Acknowledging the Abortion known as Transformers ROTDS. I like the Idea. Not the Execution. There's this Saying we have Among out Community. There are ONLY 2 Transformers Cybertron Games. Not 3. A 3rd NEVER Happened. But I grew up with War For Cybertron. So I got used to a Lot of things. And I was Really Young when I played it. Like 5 Years old to 10 Years Old. The Game was Apart of my Childhood. Without it I wouldn't have Been able to Live. Oh and it's Sequel. Jesus. When I saw the Trailer for the First Time. I HAD To get it. The Teo Trailers for Fall of Cybertron Sold the Entire Game Series for me back then. Rewatching the Trailers. They Still Hit Fucking Hard. The Trailer's have Aged like Fine Wine

  • @o0junglist0o93
    @o0junglist0o93 5 місяців тому

    Nightdive studios need to get involved...

  • @ayaannazir7308
    @ayaannazir7308 Рік тому

    This game was amazing but I’m confused as to why the game was capped in on 30fps, idk it just bugged me

    • @VirtualLegacy
      @VirtualLegacy  Рік тому

      The game really struggles to hold even 30fps on the Xbox 360. Is the PC version locked to 30fps? The games delisted now so I couldn't play that version, but I heard it wasn't a very good port.

  • @g04tn4d0
    @g04tn4d0 8 місяців тому

    Because they're fucking awesome. That's why. 🐐😎🎉

  • @lumpies
    @lumpies 9 місяців тому

    Please remaster these games, please!

  • @00nanoo99
    @00nanoo99 Рік тому

    I still own my original copies of both WFC and FOC

  • @guyarmon9410
    @guyarmon9410 8 місяців тому

    No no no, i remember
    I got my pc copy in a shop with a disk!!!
    It has a pc copy

  • @jay-pd7rt
    @jay-pd7rt 6 місяців тому

    This game was so good

  • @SuperHns
    @SuperHns 7 місяців тому

    because is goooodd so good

  • @Jellokop
    @Jellokop 7 місяців тому

    tfwfc Is just good there no questioning to why is it good or how good it is

  • @ElJorro
    @ElJorro 10 місяців тому +1

    We need a renewal

  • @novustalks7525
    @novustalks7525 9 місяців тому

    Not a fan of the story, but the gameplay and world building is fantastic

  • @AutisticPrime-2.0
    @AutisticPrime-2.0 Місяць тому

    Short answer, it’s a great game

  • @kahtanalobaidi1550
    @kahtanalobaidi1550 6 місяців тому

    Can you please do fall of cybertron

    • @VirtualLegacy
      @VirtualLegacy  6 місяців тому +1

      I'm currently playing through it for a video!

  • @TBH_happymeal
    @TBH_happymeal 8 місяців тому

    Is it just me or did the designs regress in the sequel, i think optimus looks way better in this game honestly, but i like his car mode better in the sequel, both are amazing but i think war had the better designs

  • @RGM-79m3r
    @RGM-79m3r Місяць тому

    so whos going to tell him there was a physical release for wfc