Sinkhole creates new Florida lake: History of Lake Rose in Winter Park
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2022
- Winter Park, Florida is known for its beautiful homes, restaurants, and shops, but the city has a lot of natural gems as well. One example is Lake Rose, near the intersection of Fairbanks Ave. and S. Denning Dr. The lake can trace its beginnings to a massive sinkhole that opened up near the intersection 41 years ago
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I remember that , I was working as a Deputy Sheriff when the news about the sinkhole came out. A lot of smaller lakes in the area started as sinkholes. Every time I see a smaller lake that's fairly round I wounder if it started that way. See several others over the years , I have been here since 1944.
Jesus h. what are you - 100?
Obviously math is not your strong point.
@@marianne3024 oh "obviously" I must not be good at math b/c I'm black?
@@darnelljackson2160 true
@@zfg8516 reported 4 the Ray Cisms.
I'd like to know more about Rose who lost her home- I hope she wasn't jilted by the system especially since she lost her home on mother's day
what system , if she didn't have insurance , just tough , no one was at fault here but the earth .
She's long gone. Just move along sir. Nothing to see here.
It was a mobile home she could have just moved🤡
@@moneymanifestation9505 not really "mobile homes' means it has wheels or can be moved but in reaility it would damage the home and needs specail equipment sometimes people buy it cause it cheaper and their a loop whole for taxes
@@jonesy4588 ... Not even close to true. Florida has a vast network of natural, water filled caves. The water in the cave networks keeps pressure on the cave walls. Evil corporations like nestle have been draining millions of gallons per day for decades and only pay a $65 a mo land lease and $0 for our water that they sell to us. No pressure on the walls, caves collapse and, it's only going to get worse.
Cant believe its been that many years. My brother Phillip was employed by the Jamal's starting his early career as a Civil Engineer. Many discussion's about sinkholes and the Geo technical aspects of Florida became popular at our house. Lots of Engineers came to Florida to see this phenomenon.
how the years fly. live every day to its fullest people, it just keeps speeding up
I was about 4 years old and lived a few blocks away on Balch Ave. I remember standing at the barricade looking at the debris in the water. there was a beach ball floating in the sink hole after it happened.
I was nearly 6 years old and what I remember most is the big clay boulders that would just randomly break off and roll down the sides to disappear below…it was impressive to say the least!
Lakefront property? Lady thats a pond
No way, Kool-Aid Man. That's a damn puddle. A big puddle. Oh yeah.
Just ask any realtor, that's Waterfront and they're going to charge more for it!
Smelly and brown 🤢
Can't help but feel I've been clicked baited. The video looked as if something recently happened, instead I'm watching a video of something that happened 40 years ago.
Congratulations you are one of the few that paid attention... while everybody else think it happened yesterday.
@@ShainAndrews 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He must've missed the word, "history" 😁😁😁
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you read the title to fast that you missed the word "history" 😁😁😁 😉😉
I always get a little uncomfortable walking around newly formed ones because you were just walking on that spot yesterday and today it sunk! Like which way do you run if it happens to sink right at the moment your on it!?Scary!!! Watching the Oleno river disappear underground at the speed it does , you wonder there aren’t more sinkholes!
Giant underground caverns filled or filling with water. For all we know maybe even underground seas with strange lifeforms in them. Way underground. Wouldn't that be vierd?
Sinkholes are some of the scariest natural disasters. Reminds you that you are not safe anywhere, not even on what seems like solid land lol. It's crazy. I'm glad no one died back then when this happened
I was a tourist driving around Florida and heard this on the radio as it happened. Took a detour and had a look.
Fun fact: right smack in the middle of Walt Disney World's main parking lot, is a large sinkhole. They just built the lot around it, and never developed that part of the land.
Don’t park in Walt’s main lot…✅
Same with EPCOT
@@sifakalemur4162 Epcot's parking lot has a creek running through it!
@@joho0 and the Odyssey was built on a sink hole, more or less
Epcot yes.. parking lot NO. There is no sinkhole or was one in the parking lot at magic kingdom. It was a wetland/marsh area they covered up during construction and is now leveled off. WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR FACTS?
I'm still just trying to wrap my head around the fact there's a town in Florida called Winter Park
Also winter garden...winter springs..winter haven and others
Half of Florida is retired New Yorkers, FYI.
Would you like to wait in the sitting room or sit in the waiting room, drive on the parkway and park in the driveway? WTF with screwey English? The town of Hells Bells!
Probably named after the space aliens. Or named by them.
Why do people think that California is going to sink in the ocean, when clearly Florida is going 1st?
We dont think California is sinking we hope it is. Biiig difference
As someone who lives in California, we are sinking, morally speaking. Now Florida is a turd nature is slowly flushing away 1 sinkhole at a time.
California actually separates from the US at wild rate
Because of all the people leaving cali the nations most beautiful shithole
just because florida sinks first does not mean California will not sink as well..
My grandparents lived not too far from the sinkhole. This was a hot topic for many years! While I was too young to remember the specifics (3 years old) my grandparents and aunts spoke of it often. A few family members witnessed some of the luxury cars disappear. A part of Winter Parks history, that I think of when I drive by this area.
How nasty is the water? Or does fishing occur on the banks?
Didn't another luxury car place sink into another sinkhole like 10 or 15 years later a large collection of Corvettes or something
The sinkholes want some nice cars I guess
@@captzoom1778 yes a few steps up the road…in Kentucky
@@captzoom1778 Bowling green Kentucky's Corvette Museum.
@@captzoom1778 You meet the nicest class of people at a sinkhole.
I remember the day that sink hoke opened up and ate the house. I can’t believe it was 41 years ago.
Whatever happened to Mae Rose Williams whose house was destroyed by the sinkhole? Did she survive? Was she ever relocated? What happened to her?
41 years ago.
Mrs. Owens said she still misses the old house and her possessions.
″I had been there for 40-some years. ... I try not to even go that way if I can help it.″
Residents of this Orlando suburb quickly began a fund, and with the help of insurance and $15,000 in donations, Mrs. Owens soon moved into a new home.
″Since the memories are fading, I would like for it to fade,″ she said. ″Every time you dig it up, that just makes it fresh.″
This interview was in 1986 when Mrs. Mae Rose (Owens)Williams was 72 years old.
@@one4truth236 what a shame. I’m sad that she has not healed even after so much time has passed but I’m also sad that she doesn’t want to talk about it because she could educate many others about the reality of dealing with the consequences of it. People need to know since a big part of the fear stems from not knowing. There are important take-aways like listen for unusual sounds and don’t ignore them and wet periods following extreme dry periods are the time to be most aware.
Sadly...
WILLIAMS, MAE ROSE, 95, of Winter Park, passed away, Sunday, September 11, 2005.
@@ajbunches825
SOME THINGS JUST CAN'T BE HEALED & PUT ASIDE,
NO MATTER WHAT. OH, IF ONLY IT WERE THAT SIMPLE.
EVEN WITH ALL THE BEST WILL IN THE WORLD & THE BEST HELP FROM MANY DIRECTIONS INC. MEDICATIONS SOME THINGS ARE BEST LEFT UNSAID & MS. ROSE MAE PREFERRED IT THAT WAY.
IT HAUNTED HER TO LOSE ALL THAT SHE DID, NO AMOUNT OF MONEY CAN REPLACE YR LIFE & ALL THAT YOU HAD ATTAINED OVER 40 YRS. . . UNLESS YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH SUCH A LOSS YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO!
SHE WASN'T THERE TO BE AT PEOPLE'S BECK & CALL TO 'EDUCATE' THEM IN HOW IT FELT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, WHAT A SELFISH THING TO EXPECT FROM HER.
NOW LET HER REST SOUNDLY IN PEACE. 🙏🏼
There are fish in there. Some decent size bass. Definitely deep. Made a mistake of letting my crankbait drop to the bottom. Took a while to reach the bottom. I think i snagged a porshe. Broke the line.
It didn’t swallow a Porsche. That’s just what the owner or employee of the dealership said about that nice Porsche sitting in his garage.
How did fish end up there
@@melonie_peppers they can migrate during heavy rain and flooding, people dumping in there or bird drops one in there.
Florida reclaiming it's swampland.
Yup. Earths overpopulated the land can’t take the weight of 21 million people and all their buildings in an area that’s been falling into the oceans since the beginning of time lol
who would thought
Realtors upscaling the area by claiming it a lake $$$$
That father/daughter photo is beautiful!
What a touching story. The Soft pretty music.... Kinda makes me want a sink hole of my own.
What no one tells you is that it's a breeding ground for mosquitoes like the kind only Florida can make... it's NASTY to be around that stagnant water. And calling it a lake is just absurd. It's a puddle/pond/swimming... more like a cesspool since it's so stagnant and nasty!
you clearly havent seen alaskan mosquitos. they will take your wallet and keys, and laugh at you. i lived in florida for 17 years and not a single retention pond or lake, even man made, was an issue. its a bigger issue with backyard swimming pools of lazy homeowners that dont keep it clean. sinkholes are totally natural. its earth rebuilding itself beneath our feet.
It needs a circulation pump or some fountains scattered about...
I traded snow plows for mosquitoes trucks. No radgrets.
Called bats! Best mosquito control ever. Idiot for an engineer.
Add some of those little free for the asking mosquito gobbling fish the watch the magic happen.
I grew up in Titusville at that time and my grandfather lived in Winter Park. We went by there after it happened. Last I knew, all the Porches from that shop that went in are still down there.
That's no Lake, that's the Winter Park sink hole in the hood.
Lol
What size defines a lake?
That isnt a lake.
I was at that lake when I was a teen like 20yrs ago, folks used to go to one of the shops and my cousin and I would go down to the like. I had no idea!
Sinkholes are so scary….. terrifying thought to be a victim of one
I'd be concerned living there; planning to move in a hurry!
Florida had 1,000 insurance claims a day for sinkholes.
This was twenty years ago
Florida is like a big island..
I'm surprised you can dig one foot.
"I got to see my father reassuring people when he wasn't sure", she makes it sound like lying to people is a good thing
Yeah, that’s a really hazardous and libelous approach to public safety
sounds like dr fouchee and the byedone administration
My boss does it better
These sink holes are showing up everywhere around the globe. Its like a new trend.
Any links, I'd like to research it.
Mexico gets alot of sinkholes, u know sinkhole de mayo right lol
i see a terrible disaster at some point in the future happening between the 2 large lakes, 0:22 im betting that sink hole is only the beginning of the ground collapsing and washing out. who knows what the damage under the land looks like but eventually i can see more of those ponds like lake rose popping up around the near by houses
Curious to know what was done to stabilize this one.....
SO Cool.
Nature: "Surprise! Your new lakes has arrived!"
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Saint Clare, pray for us. Amen 😇💓🙏✝️💥💯GOD BLESS AMERICA 🇺🇸
Really interesting and well put together reporting; why can't more news be like this?
Edit: for punctuation.
I wonder if the lake now has an inlet/outlet system or it's just a mass of stinky water.
Now as for the mosquitoes and frogs, perhaps some gators too...can't be fun living around there.
There might be gators in there too
Imagine if Death Valley just sunk one day after a heavy rain and we got a new Grand Canyon….
Nice images, now what if they joined at one point? And death valley filled with seawater via another huge crack. Instant inland sea. Lower California goes full tropical. Interesting.
I just finished reading and 1830s book from James Lowry Donaldson, who discussed how unstable the ground of Florida was and how sinkholes just randomly appears..... YET, the idols we worship sold the land and told everyone the American Dream could be found.
So.... Almost 200 years and the holes still appear, but as long as there is shopping - have no fear!!!!
You say all that as if its your proof of the badness of that state... but this event happened 40 years ago. It didn't happen last week. You got anything else you'd like to cover with your Blanket Statements?
@@suburbangardenpermaculture3117 how do you start and engineering firm with no engineering job experience? are they giving them out like candy?
Many states have areas of concern but that doesn’t mean the whole state should be condemned! Louisiana floods, California earthquakes, Kansas tornadoes, Montana (Yellowstone)landslides from flooding, Mississippi floods, etc…
I think you may have taken that book a bit too literally.
It turned into a beautiful park
Give it a month or so and they'll find a gator in it lol 😆
wow. i remember this. i was time traveling and had stopped near by, then this happened
I think filling it with dirt not water would have been the way of correcting it water will just make things worst over time I can only imagine the value of the home around it are worth nothing.
There's another sinkhole that's further down Fairbanks hidden in a neighborhood.
OMG!
Nice history
I hope the woman and her dog were fine...
My first thought was, underground water flow from rain was washing away the limestone from underneath the land. They couldn't think of that?
I've been inside sinkholes that were wider, deeper, and longer.
As to those set aside for public use I recommend Bottomless
Lakes State Park in NM
I will have to look in to that.
Wow, interesting story. How did she retire so young?
I remember seeing that as a kid was 9 and lived close
"It just kept getting bigger"
That's what she said.
What a nice story.
I've heard that before!!
0:35 your boy just wanted a backyard lake for fishing.
I remember when this happened... I was in my late teens... we'd drive around and try to see what we could of the sinkhole, some of us even swan in the pool and would talk about what we would [do] if we owned one of those nice ass cars...
Same here...
It was nuts.. been bigger , just no cave writing to document.
So it’s a pond sized lake, ok
Was there eating lunch, ended up helping the Porsche dealer move cars. The sound was weird and the earth moved like a very slow whirlpool.
I lived not far from there when that happened
One thing missing from the explanation about the cause of the sink hole is karst geology that underlies much of Florida. Karst is composed of limestone which is relatively easily eroded by water percolating/ flowing through especially after a heavy rain. Eventually the ground beneath the surface becomes so porous that it collapses under its own weight.
did this happen with those collapsed condos at surfside?
@@tammyfoster6223 I think Surfside was said to have been built with inferior steel..not 100% sure
It's Florida. Philadelphia USA
"41 years ago"
Me thinking it's from the 60s...
"Back in May 1981"
😮😧🤯😱
I remember this happening! It made the National News.
Notice the road breaking away squarely? Sorry I’m just wondering how it was made lol
so how on earth did they stabilize it
they didnt. earth reconstructs. this is how the florida region does it. thats all. up here in the north we dig until we hit the natural water table, and the lake fills itself, then we move to mine elsewhere. its just earth.
Over time, I’d wonder about the stability of the perimeter.
Im a little confused. So was that her mother in the beginning whose house sunk?
Fascinating story of terraforming natural disaster into a public park with a lake!
My Belief is that they are Rivers under the land when the water level drops the soil above will collapse.
This is a perfect spot to looks for missing people..
How DEEP is that hole? That's what I want to know!!!
How deep is your love? I really mean to learn
Because we’re living in a world of fools
Bringing us down
When they all should let us be
We belong to you and me
I USE TO SWIM IN THAT POOL AND LIVED RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THERE.
The day after it sank there was probably a bass tournament.
Retired! Wow shes beautiful looks to young to be retired but maybe the sink hole business is good!
1:37 Literally looks like a crater when a super hero falls to the ground or some anime fight has happened, but I am surprised it turned into a lake
I hope LA gets alot of these... Maybe NYC too 😜
I’m confused…..she said sink holes problem solved….how do you solve it ….????….it’s still a bigger sink hole filled with water !!!!
I saw the head line and a thought from my past screamed forth with such a force I decided to comment "THATS WHAT SHE SAID"
Lake "Used to be My Home"
Gators, giant snakes, ridiculous heat and humidity and if that isn't enough; sinkholes. Welcome to Florida, the sunshine state y'all! 😂😂
“Arrive stoned”
@@shepdgc.og.soldier7732 🤣🤣
Sharks, crocodiles, hurricanes, Cubans, Haitians. Florida has it all.
Now gimme yer wallet.
Um I'll pass. California is weird enough but not that weird.
All those round lakes in that area were formed that `way.
t's the Limestone odd they didn't mention that in this report
Wait…there’s Porsche 911’s down there?!
Every time I go to FL i ask, "What's that smell?"
Funny, I always noticed sinkholes formed after rain.
Some can also happen bc of dryness
@@dd4850 Sinkholes can happen at any time.
nah, it was caused by the leaking Olympic sized swimming pool that was there before the sinkhole occurred. just like the small sinkhole in my backyard was caused by a leaking toilet pipe.
It always blows my mind when they use a drone video and leave the sound of the propellers. Why even record sound?
That's why wells and septics go hand and hand in Florida and city government needs to be limited. Pulling the water from underground but not letting it flow back where it comes from is bank for utilities but a disaster waiting to happen for property owners
If you're a local, this is the smoking spot, behind Austin's coffee
Next headline will be: Florida Man falls into sinkhole, lives, and finds one eyed Willy
Cars still down there?
There should still be some (luxury) cars down there somewhere
I need more information from Leila, is there an address to contact her?
I bought property next to it hoping to get some lakeside property, but it fell in.
I saw the car in it when it happened.
Been a long time ago
How deep is the lake/sinkhole today?
The stabilized sinkhole was 350' wife and 75' deep. Today it's probably 50-60 feet deep.
@@maxsdad538 wow!
Florida is a state with many lakes and swamps and tha means plenty of sinkholes!
Does anyone know if there's a cave at the bottom of the sinkhole?
There isn't. I've dove "Lake Rose" and I'm a cave diver. It wasn't worth a second dive.
I hear everyone use the Termanology of leak can anyone define what a leak is , what a pond is , what a sinkhole is how can you define stagnant water as a lake ?
and a pond stagnant water isn’t a leak ,
running water can be define as a lake or a running stream 👍
I have family who bought property with a pond in front of the house or a pond behind there house and was told it’s a Lake I’m confuse stagnant water is not at Lake sinkhole stagnant water again it’s not a link it’s a pond 👌
The difference between a pond and a lake is a judgment call based on size. (A lake is larger than a pond). Rivers and streams have motion, lakes and ponds do not unless they are connected to a river or stream. They need to add some fountains in there to circulate the water.
You don't need to question anything. These people have no idea what a lake is. This is exactly what you think it is. I think this engineer is keeping quiet about a building problem. Her dad was there. I wonder if there's anyway building that area up caused this. Engineers would know. Is this really only possible naturally? She even said herself that's sinkholes like that don't usually happen so my guess is man interfered somehow and someone knows something. This whole story seems odd to me. If they call it a lake and put houses around it and trash an old lady's house to do it, who would know? It would drive up property values and they could stock it with fish and sell permits, collect taxes for upkeep around it, etc. She could have been in the way. It completely gave way while she happened not to be home too. Maybe she got lucky or maybe someone finished the job they started. I am no expert here. I just don't buy what this lady said at all and she made a weird comment about her dad imo when she said that he was telling people things when he didn't really know. I don't know, something just seems off to me. But yeah, no way in hell this is a lake. A huge puddle, maybe, a small bog or pond but I don't know. It's definitely a breeding ground for mosquitoes. That one is a definite. Not a place I would want to live.