That's why you don't buy Yamaha Tracer 9 - the biggest marketing flaw

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  • Опубліковано 14 лис 2024

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  • @SergeyVikultsev
    @SergeyVikultsev  7 місяців тому

    Join me on the next motorcycle trip in Europe. On that tour, you can ride this motorcycle across Balkan countries and experience local cuisine, culture, and scenic roads. To join the next tour, register your interest: stoppie.me/tours/grand-balkan-motorcycle-tour/

  • @aristarxosomegas
    @aristarxosomegas Рік тому +6

    Dear Sergey, here George from Greece, owner of a red Tracer 9. I couldn't aggree more with your arguments nevertheless i have ride a GT version and what I conclude is that GT is totally different bike. It has better handling on twisted road due to its suspension. I am planning to adjust an ohlins suspension on mine. It will be better than the GT. Ride safe!

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Рік тому +2

      Thank you George 🙏

    • @ionescugeorge2003
      @ionescugeorge2003 5 місяців тому

      I found the GT in the soft suspension setting to be more comfortable than the normal Tracer.

  • @Hooner77
    @Hooner77 6 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for your take on the Tracer 9 suspension vs the GT. The problem for us in the USA is Yamaha dropped the Tracer 9/GT from its lineup in 2023. Currently they have brought back the Tracer 9GT for 2024. With all the new goodies added to the GT I would buy it over the non-GT if were available here. I will see if the new active suspension works on rough pavement when I take it on a test drive.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  6 місяців тому

      Hi! Thanks for watching. I guess the non-GT version doesn't make much sense for the US. I might be wrong, but my perception that you guys ride highways rather than backroads (not talking about adventure riding). So you don't really need a "manual" version.

    • @Hooner77
      @Hooner77 6 місяців тому

      @@SergeyVikultsev I can understand that perception as people from other countries think we all ride Harley Davidson motorcycles. That is so far from the truth. Consider this fact. At 6,803,479 km the US has more roads than any other country. Those roads run from large multi-lane freeways to dirt tracks that will test the most experienced adventure motorcyclist. When I plan a long motorcycle trip, I pick a route with lots of twisty roads and as little freeway as I can get away with. I think the Tracer 9GT is great motorcycle for that type of touring. I am sure it would be better than my 2017 V-Strom 650. But it still puts a smile on my face running a twisty road.

  • @matt-ze6fc
    @matt-ze6fc 11 місяців тому +6

    I completely agree. I got one of the few non GT Tracer 900 in the States and switched out the suspension with RaceTech suspension and modified it to my personal needs and riding style. I still came out way cheaper.. However, I do miss the quick shifter, heated hand grips and cruise control.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  11 місяців тому +1

      I think Yamaha tried too hard with this electronic suspension. Probably, if they have more extended travel, that would work better.

    • @MrBeracah
      @MrBeracah 9 місяців тому +1

      Hi plse advise your height and inside leg, and if you have the seat in the lower or higher position. Thank you

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  9 місяців тому

      @@MrBeracah hey, I am 6.2 (188cm) tall and 32 inseam. The seat is in high position.

    • @ChrisSauer-oe5ve
      @ChrisSauer-oe5ve 8 місяців тому

      How much was suspension cost?

    • @ADV-EXPLORERS_MkM
      @ADV-EXPLORERS_MkM 8 місяців тому

      @@SergeyVikultsevwe have the same height ! What about the wind protection ? Is it satisfying ?

  • @tbrama4143
    @tbrama4143 3 місяці тому +2

    I sold my MT09 Tracer because of the bad suspension. I did everything to set it up right but it just wasn’t right for me. And at high speeds (160 kmh +) the bike was shaking on the rear. Did a test drive on a big German adventure bike with electronic suspension…. So much beter! Never had any regret trading in the Tracer. I hope that the Tracer 9 has a better suspension nowadays, but in my opinion the cheap suspension is to keep the price low and the bike interesting.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  3 місяці тому +2

      I think that this generation is been improved compared to the previous one. I also think everything is build to the price. Big German ADV almost double in price, it has to be better :)

  • @RRRRefuelRideRace
    @RRRRefuelRideRace 9 місяців тому +3

    Wonderful topic. Just before deciding for the base model I test rode (also filmed it) the GT model and I completely agree about the suspension. Just two modes and both too hard. At least for me. :) Anyways the base model has everything a usual riders need. I am a happy owner just like you. Take care and keep going bro.

  • @StefanRIDES
    @StefanRIDES 5 місяців тому +1

    I have a 2019 Tracer 900 GT, and i absolutely love it. Feels way more premium then the regular 900. I will just use it for long distance rides and holidays.

  • @EdDesan77
    @EdDesan77 Місяць тому +4

    The Russians, Ukranians and neighbor countries ALWAYS complaining about minor things like they want to buy a Yamaha and expect the most expensive DUCATI for the same price

    • @serezhka2943
      @serezhka2943 16 днів тому

      Just russian and ukrainian have "Izh Upiter 5". The Best motorcycle in the world. You will smell gasoline and oil like a men and looks like tracktor mechanic in dirty suit after one week job. You will have every evening the leg day gym pushing your died bike after dance party (discoteka) to your home from neighbors village

  • @k01yunya
    @k01yunya 2 дні тому +1

    Versys 1000 has fully adjustable electronic suspension: preload, compression, rebound. Front and rear.
    A real windshield and the 4th cillinder 🤣

  • @marklee519
    @marklee519 9 місяців тому +7

    Hi man mark here from the UK. I am riding my tracer from the UK To Macedonia this summer ( my wife is Macedonian) it's going to be a long trip I want to see as much of the beautiful Balkans as I can. Regards mark

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  9 місяців тому +1

      Hey Mark. Sounds good! You will enjoy it for sure! Feel free to reach me out (you can use email in about tab, or social media) if you need any info. We can meet in Montenegro, maybe do a short ride if time is good! Ride safe, cheers!

    • @RRRRefuelRideRace
      @RRRRefuelRideRace 9 місяців тому +1

      This is just great. I already know that you will have fun. Drop by to check my content. I am from Slovenia. :)

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 7 місяців тому +1

      hey I'm from Macedonia, I hope you enjoy our country

    • @marcoaurelio6941
      @marcoaurelio6941 5 місяців тому +1

      How is the avg fuel consumption on travel for 2pax?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  4 місяці тому

      @@marcoaurelio6941i am happy with fuel consumption on this bike

  • @creativeleodaily
    @creativeleodaily 10 місяців тому +1

    Huge Yamaha Fan... Drove my first ever Yamaha Nmax 125, in urban, hilly, off-roadish bad roads of Lisbon and Greater Lisbon, 75000KM in past two years, which surprisingly happend today.
    I owe my life to Yamaha as this moto saved me from flooded Roads, Crazy slippery roads, crazy cars drivers trying to kill me....
    Now my Plan is to buy Yamaha Tracer 9GT, before I finds a girl to make her my WIFE lol because after that it will be very hard, I know...
    Thanks alot for such a great video

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  10 місяців тому +1

      That’s why they say “Revs your heart” ;)

    • @ChrisSauer-oe5ve
      @ChrisSauer-oe5ve 8 місяців тому

      Skip the Chic and enjoy the bike 💯🙌😂

  • @adiblum
    @adiblum 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi, Another difference to GT is the turning\lean head lights, that can not be added to the regular GT (that I have been told).

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  6 місяців тому

      Yes GT and GT+ have it. Regular Tracer doesn’t.

  • @ossBASHA
    @ossBASHA 8 місяців тому +6

    I assure you that roads in Canada are trash

  • @leastanley73
    @leastanley73 Рік тому +4

    Though you switched to the Tiger, I'm between those two, great reviews.

    • @MrTeslaX
      @MrTeslaX 8 місяців тому

      what did you decide on?

    • @leastanley73
      @leastanley73 8 місяців тому +1

      @@MrTeslaX as we are on winter here I decided to wait and have more reviews of the new tigers, they look very good. Cheers

    • @MrTeslaX
      @MrTeslaX 8 місяців тому

      @@leastanley73 makes sense. I al looking to buy two new bikes, one for touring and other for offroading. Might get tracer GT+ and KTM adv 390!

  • @alinwithther6
    @alinwithther6 Рік тому +5

    Fantastic Sergey, you are nailing these videos , well done,
    And the views up there in the mountains 😮 are amazing,
    I’m so jealous 😅

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Рік тому +2

      Come! And we ride together ;)

    • @alinwithther6
      @alinwithther6 Рік тому +3

      @@SergeyVikultsev I wish I had the time 🤣🤣
      Maybe when I retire or if I get enough subs so I can make a living out of the youtube videos will have more time to travel 🤔

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Рік тому +2

      @@alinwithther6 one day for sure! You are doing great mate!

    • @deanchild9848
      @deanchild9848 4 місяці тому +1

      @@alinwithther6 you are always on tour LOL.....I ride with you anytime bro

    • @alinwithther6
      @alinwithther6 4 місяці тому +1

      @@deanchild9848 🤣🤣
      I’ll be in Montenegro with Sergey in August 🤣🤣
      And today will meet with another subscriber 🤩
      Will be great if we meet one day as you not too far from me 🤣🤣

  • @tomi1ie
    @tomi1ie 8 днів тому

    Most people tell me to go for gt version because it is more comfy than standard, and also handle better on twisty roads. Is it true? My first bike was YAMAHA FZ6 S2, but to be honest I found it uncomfortable after an hour or 2 of a ride, so decided to sale it and get my self more comfy machine ( also newer and with more power). So tracer 9 looks like perfect solution, but can't decide, which to choose standard or gt?
    I am a fan of MT 09 especially new one 2024, but.. small gas tank and no wind protection puts me off , as I like to go for longer ride every so often. I think tracer may be almost as fun as mt 09 to ride if I will want it , but will also be better because has a bigger tank and is better on wind protection. But than again I would love to have a bike with that kind of houligan nature like mt 09 when I want, and on the other side if I want I would like nice comfy crouser for longer distances.
    So GT or standard with quick shifter?😊
    Btw I ride without passenger.

  • @ralfk.5552
    @ralfk.5552 Рік тому +1

    Next Season I´m with you!

  • @Pops-007
    @Pops-007 2 місяці тому +1

    Montenegro is lovely place to visit. The people are nice and prices are great
    I would love to ride my Triumph Tiger there.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  2 місяці тому

      It is! Come to visit!

    • @magualex917
      @magualex917 2 місяці тому

      ok i am in Romania , i come with you on my f900xr , lets go

  • @dumptrump3788
    @dumptrump3788 7 місяців тому +2

    The biggest "Flaw", if you live in N. America, is that Yamaha North America don't support this bike. While Yamaha dealers in Istanbul, London, Paris, Adelaide etc etc, have them lined up & ready to buy, in the USA you can hardly find one & there's NO OEM accessories. They give the lame excuse "Supply chain problems" yet dealers i the rest of the world have accessories on the shelf, ready to buy.
    It's a GREAT bike, but Yamaha N. America sucks, IMO. The dealers in the rest of the world seems to have no problem. I'm jealous.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  7 місяців тому

      Yeah, I am surprised you guys don’t have a better choice, as we are in Europe. I am sure the US is a big market and can consume anything.

  • @mcreact6626
    @mcreact6626 4 місяці тому +1

    Very great perspective 👌

  • @concernedcitizen5826
    @concernedcitizen5826 Рік тому +1

    Another very good video, thank you sir!

  • @bartubiber
    @bartubiber 3 місяці тому +1

    great content 👍

  • @533c
    @533c 8 місяців тому +1

    What about the suspension of first GT gen /2018-2020/? Is it more fragile than the base model? If I get the base model and put all the accessories it will be more expensive than the GT

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  8 місяців тому

      Previous generation didn't have that much rigidity, this one is much better.

    • @533c
      @533c 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SergeyVikultsev so If I'm looking for previous gen it will be better to get the GT version?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  8 місяців тому

      @@533c yes, GT will be better

  • @ruffleschips9055
    @ruffleschips9055 Місяць тому +1

    Is it aggravating to have to clean and oil the chain every 600 miles???

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Місяць тому

      Not at all. It's super easy. Depending on the conditions in which you ride the bike, cleaning can be done at longer intervals. Lubing the chain takes less than 2 minutes.

  • @Zazir
    @Zazir 11 місяців тому +1

    and what about high speed aerodynamics? Is it still wobling, does this bike need a stering dumper from the first ride?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  11 місяців тому

      No issues with high speed stability as it was with previous gen. Windscreen is not performing well, so you might want to replace it with aftermarket options.

  • @creativeleodaily
    @creativeleodaily 10 місяців тому +2

    Watched your Video till the end and Subscribed after giving a like, awesome feedback

    • @RRRRefuelRideRace
      @RRRRefuelRideRace 9 місяців тому +1

      He know how to make a video. I enjoyed it too. I am one of his subs for a long time now. :) I also own a Tracer 9. Drop by to check my content. Cheers.

  • @MrTeslaX
    @MrTeslaX 8 місяців тому +1

    Your advice on TGT+ Vs Tiger 900GT

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  8 місяців тому

      All depends on where you are going to ride those bikes, and what you value more, comfort or excitement?

    • @ChrisSauer-oe5ve
      @ChrisSauer-oe5ve 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SergeyVikultsevVery rough streets & hwys?
      What is your opinion sir?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  4 місяці тому

      @@ChrisSauer-oe5veTiger will do better in town.

  • @lold6130
    @lold6130 9 місяців тому +3

    But the base model has that horrible split dash.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  9 місяців тому

      It’s not looking good, but it’s functional. Probably there will be a refresh any time soon.

    • @nickcurfs5027
      @nickcurfs5027 8 місяців тому +3

      I love the split dash

  • @bluesaga
    @bluesaga Рік тому +3

    I like it. "Less electronic, more reliability, less electronic, more control." perfect.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Рік тому

      What's going to happen when all bikes are EVs? :)

    • @bluesaga
      @bluesaga Рік тому +1

      I was quoting you. ;-) It's not that electronics are bad, but like anything, having more (unnecessary) things will eventually cause more maintenance and potentially repair cost. EVs usually have an order magnitude less parts so your reliability should increase, if you just base it on the potential of any part failing randomly. However, reliability is only as good as as the most frequent failing part, especially in a critical system. @@SergeyVikultsev

    • @Paul-899cc
      @Paul-899cc 2 місяці тому

      Yep my thoughts exactly 👌. If I where a salesman I'd worship electronic suspension 👍🤣

  • @juliemcgillivray3394
    @juliemcgillivray3394 Рік тому +1

    Did you sell your Tiger?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Рік тому

      No ;)

    • @jeromequimson1922
      @jeromequimson1922 Рік тому

      ​@@SergeyVikultsevso which is better? Gt or Gt+?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Рік тому +1

      @@jeromequimson1922 GT+

    • @suzukik9833
      @suzukik9833 10 місяців тому +1

      9GT+ vs suzuki upcoming S1000 gx which is better choice?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  10 місяців тому

      @@suzukik9833They both are great bikes, and I am exited to try Suzuki. I'd stick with Yamaha for now. They have been using electronic suspension and other tech for long enough to make it reliable. Also, they sell plenty of Tracers, where I don't feel Suzuki will be sold that much because of price tag.

  • @DC-BG
    @DC-BG Рік тому +2

    한국에서는 gt와 gt+를 팔지 않아서 선택지가 일반 모델 하나밖에 없다 ㅜㅡㅜ 하지만 나는 만족하고 있음

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Рік тому

      That’s what I am saying. Enjoy riding your bike ;)

  • @convertorx
    @convertorx 3 місяці тому +3

    It would be better for some of the people commenting to- including the guy who made the video- to go and buy a car.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  3 місяці тому +5

      What’s wrong with the video and the guy who made it?

  • @MK-bk6nt
    @MK-bk6nt Рік тому +2

    The problem is that Yamaha does not have touring in its offer. Tracer is a pretend tour, people treat it as tourism, while the competition offers real tourism for similar money.
    GT+ version is a scam in my opinion. For much more money you get a radar and a repaired dash which should be the same in the standard model because the current one is not different but broken. I dont want pay this price for repaired dash and radar... why do i need radar wtf? At the same time, I don't want broken clocks in the GT. Now I have to buy the extremely expensive gt+ version. But for this money I already have other motorcycles.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Рік тому

      They had FJR which was long distance touring machine. But it is not present anymore. Maybe there will be a replacement. Will see.

    • @ChrisSauer-oe5ve
      @ChrisSauer-oe5ve 8 місяців тому

      All theses manufacturers are selling gadgets that either over the top, or just useless 🤦‍♂️
      Maybe they will see comments and address the issues in the near future 🙏

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 7 місяців тому

      so whats the alternative in this price range then? and pls don't say Kawasaki Versys, the bike is 50+ kilos heavier than the tracer and more expensive

  • @010dommel010
    @010dommel010 3 місяці тому +1

    je praat veel man