Cams: Football fans always have agendas now, we’re having too much agendas and not loving football 3 minutes later: Blame Van Djik for everything 😂 love the hypocrisy
LMAOO Spends 10 minutes talking about how football discourse is cooked and it's all about agendas and hate watching. Few minutes later proceeds to blame Van Dijk for Austria defeat. Cans and Mayowa are Hypocrites.
@@MindfulMastery- oh I am happy. Got an fa cap last season. Looking to improve next💪🏾 U lot are always the “almost” team. Keep up the good work though. We finished 6th and still had a more successful season.
Cams is taking a huge L, saying that everyone needs to adopt to how Pep plays football, but miss me with that nonsense, Klopp did beat Pep, how did he do that, by doing something completely different then Pep, not by being a versjon of Pep from Wish like most other modern managers. And Fuad is completely right that fans like Cams himself are begging for a structure and a team philosophy of play. Norway does sadly have a manager that is even worse then Southgate, so their chances of making it are very slim unless they get a better manager and a better system in place, Outside of Haaland, Oscar Bobb, Sorloth, Odegaard and Sander Berge everyoen plays in the Norwegian league which is a very low quality league.
This idea that a teenage midfield is what wins England the title is mad..Spain and Germany would terrorise those boys and it wouldn't be their fault... experience is still key
12:40 the mad thing is, the game hasn’t been basketballfied, but more American Footballfied. All this sectioning of the football pitch and extreme tactics. It’s like man need certain plays ran for them to do things, when football had attackers that could generate something out of nothing.
This Saka LB discussion is dumb. He hasn't played there for 4 years and can't defend 1v1's etc, why do it now at a major comp comes across as wildly unprepared. Saka will unfairly be the face of criticism when England concede any goal. If you must get Palmer at RW, put Saka LW hes the ONLY one good enough to play both wings well. Scholes is acting dumb on socials again, only calling out the Arsenal players when there has been Kane, Jude, Foden, Walker all being sh*t
I agree with you about the Saka at LB discussion being dumb. I think it wouldn't be as dumb if you put him as a LWB, but realistically Southgate isn't changing his formation
Its dumb because of the underlying tones being Palmer > Saka. Its nothing about Saka to LB. What if Wright said Foden LB. Or Palmer LB. It would then be seen as Arsenal players and fans with their agendas.
Walker hasn’t been great but he hasn’t been shit. It was his pass that break the lines for Saka’s cross to Bellingham and his pace and pass that created Kane’s goal. We should be more worried about the fact that Walker is more consistently involved with our goals than anyone else than concerned with calling him shit.
Southgate is what happens when you promote someone to a position they wouldn’t have got to themselves through hard work and ability. He’s got players with 30+ GA, you’ve got Bellingham, Foden, Kane, Saka, Watkins the list literally goes on and they’ve scored 3 goals because of the tactics set in place by Southgate. Imagine you’re being coached by Ancelotti, Pep, Tuchel, Arteta, Poch, Emery and then you go to this. Foden should just stay home, spend the valuable time with your family there’s no point wasting your time here playing 2002 tactics against 70th ranked teams scraping a draw. Ben white was right all along enjoy some drinks by the beach instead of training for a manager who couldn’t coach a league one team.
I hate when people expose that they don't actually watch football and all 3 of you did it here, Ian Wright's suggestion about Saka is dumb because he never actually played LB in a back 4 at Arsenal and if he did Xhaka was doing all the defensive work for him out of possession, pair that up with the fact that he's England's best winger, he hasn't played LWB in 4 years and Palmer is better in central areas and it's the dumbest take of the tournament, you guys have BEEN hating on Saka though so I'm not surprised. No talk of the fact that Foden has been invisible bar a few good touches (no end product) and keeps roaming infield leaving England without a LHS isn't surprising at all.
This cam guy always tries to move saka from his position, he’s loving all of this. These black content creators are a big part of these narratives it’s actually nasty
They literally said it wasn’t a good take just not outrageous, Palmer has been better than Saka at RW, fact. Suggesting a winger play full back is not crazy at all. It’s actually really common in football. Are you sure you watch football?
@@tominigerianinterfan2758 no he has not bro wtf are we doing here. No one apart from dumb casuals think Palmer is anywhere near Saka level. Like it’s mad disrespectful to even compare them two.
England aren’t the Real Madrid or Man City of international football so not winning anything is not mediocrity. Getting close to winning something is excellence in their case, and winning something would be pure divinity. You lot are talking shite.
saying Palmer is England most creative player is a lie. Its actually Saka funny enough England most creative midfielder is Morgan Gibbs White from last season
Palmer started RW against Bosnia and Iceland. Didn’t impress and the shouts went quiet. He had a lovely cameo off the bench and now they have to start running their agendas again. It’s not tactical and most of it is in bad faith.
Guys I'm not on Twitter so I can't gage the amount of hate Ian Wright got for that suggestion.. but either way for me it was a horrible take cause if you think Saka can go LB under Southgate in the round of 16, when he hasn't played there in 4 years. He didn't play LB at youth level. Only under Unai Emery. Under a top manager I would get the suggestion.. or letting him go LW, hell, I would have preferred he said bench him for the next game (which for me would be a completely fair suggestion given his form and that of others in the team in his position). Talking about LB given the situation is a disappointing and horrible take by a football legend. Simple as that for me.
Cams asking which players are moving us and what not when everyone has been on about Musiala, Nico Williams, Lamine Yamal, Wirtz, Kante, Kroos etc and how they are very exciting, this includes Cams btw. And this whole idea of Pep ruining football is nonsense to me. Pep has not forced a single manager to copy his style of football so I don't see how people trying to copy him is his fault. Pep's managerial career and philosophy didn't start with Man City. He played a similar way with Bayern and the Barca that everyone loved and there were still many teams that played their own style of football. Ancelotti won the league and champions league playing his style of football. Klopp won the league with Liverpool playing their gen gen press football. Sean Dyche plays his fossil football and still manages to win games and stay in the league. Hell even Ten Hairs beat Pep playing some dusty football and won the FA cup against him.
I think a lot of people just can’t stand people being nothing but negative towards the team, never saying anything good to give the lads confidence. Rio is literally the only person that talks positively.
Yeah but it isn't easy to find positive things to say about the team despite them finishing top of the group. Also if the lads need fans to give them confidence to play well then that is embarrassing. Having said that Southgate is a bigger reason why the team isn't performing well, at least in my opinion.
When talking about modern football being boring and needing to be boring to win you missed an obvious outlier, probably because of your bias: Jurgen Klopp
You man going on like if Saka was starting at LB Arsenal fans wouldn’tbe getting absolutely cooked. Go drop Foden LB. And on the silencing people When you give your opinion and you have big platform expect a reaction.
@@CultureCams lol I’m trolling with the Foden shout. But on a serious one Saka like it or not is one of the top 3 rw in the world. Why would you move him out of that position it’s insanity. Palmer does not deserve to be forced into the England team at the expense of Saka. Back to back England player of the year. Respect please.
not many goals, younger players gets their huge contracts don't care about playing anymore, younger guys not partying but having kids/partners at a young age. english premier league is 97% players are south american england/europe don't have talent anymore like 1990's and early 2000's.
Footballs dead because talent isn’t being cultivated anymore. Young players get paid too much too soon, young players have a lot more distractions now, they’re spending too much time on improving fitness and strength rather improving technique. If you compare striker now and strikers then, strikers then could actually strike a ball; van persie, Rooney, aguero, drogba, ibra, Defoe, Torres, list goes on. Now you have strikers that are strong fast, can link up but can’t shoot for shit (the one thing you should have mastered as a striker).
KOBBIE MAINOO ALWAYS BEEN SPECIAL SAW HIM IN LOCKDOWN WHEN HE WAS 15 AND THE WORLD NEVER KNEW WHO HE WAS BUT ALWAYS KNEW HE WOULD BE A BIG PLAYER IN FURURE ITS JUST COME VERY QUICK PROUD OF HIM ENGLAND LUCKY TO HAVE SUCH A MIDFIELD MYSTRO!!!💫
Instead of discussing actual football, these man went to wembley, sat outside in the heat and discussed the opinions of faceless avi twitter narratives. You can't make this up
These man turned into your standard Sky Sports pundits who dont show any interest in discussing the actual football and just repeat the same rhetorics, sad state.
France have been poor, Italy have been poor, Belgium have been poor, Holland have been poor, other teams have been poor as well, not just England. Even the “two best teams” so far, Germany still drew with Switzerland, and Spain only beat Albania 1-0. People get so excited at the prospect of hating on England that you can see them actually wetting their pants with the excitement, it is so embarrassing it really is.
Spain played their second team against Albania in their 1-0 win. Plus, Switzerland is of higher quality than any team England has faced. So yes, the two best teams are still playing way better football than England lol. No one is hating, it’s simply what the team has presented us so far.
Cams: Football fans always have agendas now, we’re having too much agendas and not loving football
3 minutes later: Blame Van Djik for everything 😂 love the hypocrisy
Van Dijk literally kept everyone onside. Thats not an agenda LOL. Its an objective fact
Everyone forgets that Palmer was playing against Iceland.
And didn’t do shit 😂for 70min
@@Zamanipupuhe actually missed 2 big chances and was the reason England lost
@@4LClipsAndShorts No he wasn’t he did better than Rice Bellingham and Kane in 20 mins what did they do in that game nothing
@@Zamanipupu Palmer had shots on target Kane and Arnold’s shot was off target there’s a difference
My concern about Palmer is that the Slovaks will try to exploit space in behind him and Gordon, if they play high and wide..
LMAOO Spends 10 minutes talking about how football discourse is cooked and it's all about agendas and hate watching.
Few minutes later proceeds to blame Van Dijk for Austria defeat. Cans and Mayowa are Hypocrites.
This man Cams is straight up AI
I'm an Arsenal fan and i recommend you drop both Saka and Rice. In fact just send them back home, you can play Palmer and Mainoo.
It would be nice to keep them fresh for you lot to finish 2nd again next season
@@seyba6297 Whatever makes you happy looking up to us from that 6-7 position your team belongs in.
@@MindfulMastery- oh I am happy. Got an fa cap last season. Looking to improve next💪🏾
U lot are always the “almost” team. Keep up the good work though.
We finished 6th and still had a more successful season.
@@seyba6297 Enjoy your FA cup, we have the most fa cups btw.
@@MindfulMastery- nice, I’m glad you acknowledge it as a big achievement. We’re 1 behind tho don’t get too comfortable 😉
Cams movin’ like a man who doesn’t know football of today… he thinks it’s the players fault, let England get a better coach & then talk lad
Cams is taking a huge L, saying that everyone needs to adopt to how Pep plays football, but miss me with that nonsense, Klopp did beat Pep, how did he do that, by doing something completely different then Pep, not by being a versjon of Pep from Wish like most other modern managers.
And Fuad is completely right that fans like Cams himself are begging for a structure and a team philosophy of play.
Norway does sadly have a manager that is even worse then Southgate, so their chances of making it are very slim unless they get a better manager and a better system in place, Outside of Haaland, Oscar Bobb, Sorloth, Odegaard and Sander Berge everyoen plays in the Norwegian league which is a very low quality league.
3:15 Cams germany finished 1st bro
He’s been miles off it lately
This idea that a teenage midfield is what wins England the title is mad..Spain and Germany would terrorise those boys and it wouldn't be their fault... experience is still key
Production: Use a pop shield on the mics pleeease
12:40 the mad thing is, the game hasn’t been basketballfied, but more American Footballfied. All this sectioning of the football pitch and extreme tactics. It’s like man need certain plays ran for them to do things, when football had attackers that could generate something out of nothing.
This Saka LB discussion is dumb. He hasn't played there for 4 years and can't defend 1v1's etc, why do it now at a major comp comes across as wildly unprepared. Saka will unfairly be the face of criticism when England concede any goal. If you must get Palmer at RW, put Saka LW hes the ONLY one good enough to play both wings well. Scholes is acting dumb on socials again, only calling out the Arsenal players when there has been Kane, Jude, Foden, Walker all being sh*t
I agree with you about the Saka at LB discussion being dumb. I think it wouldn't be as dumb if you put him as a LWB, but realistically Southgate isn't changing his formation
Its dumb because of the underlying tones being Palmer > Saka.
Its nothing about Saka to LB.
What if Wright said Foden LB. Or Palmer LB.
It would then be seen as Arsenal players and fans with their agendas.
Walker hasn’t been great but he hasn’t been shit. It was his pass that break the lines for Saka’s cross to Bellingham and his pace and pass that created Kane’s goal. We should be more worried about the fact that Walker is more consistently involved with our goals than anyone else than concerned with calling him shit.
Is Saka at LB worse than Trippier at LB?
Funny how these guys say the football discourse is gone... These guys are the reason for this. Agenda driven in every moment
Southgate is what happens when you promote someone to a position they wouldn’t have got to themselves through hard work and ability. He’s got players with 30+ GA, you’ve got Bellingham, Foden, Kane, Saka, Watkins the list literally goes on and they’ve scored 3 goals because of the tactics set in place by Southgate. Imagine you’re being coached by Ancelotti, Pep, Tuchel, Arteta, Poch, Emery and then you go to this. Foden should just stay home, spend the valuable time with your family there’s no point wasting your time here playing 2002 tactics against 70th ranked teams scraping a draw. Ben white was right all along enjoy some drinks by the beach instead of training for a manager who couldn’t coach a league one team.
Palmer foden etc played against Iceland and lost 1-0.
Bro Palmer played better in the last game, and the other one was a friendly
I hate when people expose that they don't actually watch football and all 3 of you did it here, Ian Wright's suggestion about Saka is dumb because he never actually played LB in a back 4 at Arsenal and if he did Xhaka was doing all the defensive work for him out of possession, pair that up with the fact that he's England's best winger, he hasn't played LWB in 4 years and Palmer is better in central areas and it's the dumbest take of the tournament, you guys have BEEN hating on Saka though so I'm not surprised. No talk of the fact that Foden has been invisible bar a few good touches (no end product) and keeps roaming infield leaving England without a LHS isn't surprising at all.
This cam guy always tries to move saka from his position, he’s loving all of this. These black content creators are a big part of these narratives it’s actually nasty
Grow a pair 😂😂😂
@@Reesa89 some Uncle Tom business
They literally said it wasn’t a good take just not outrageous, Palmer has been better than Saka at RW, fact. Suggesting a winger play full back is not crazy at all. It’s actually really common in football. Are you sure you watch football?
@@tominigerianinterfan2758 no he has not bro wtf are we doing here.
No one apart from dumb casuals think Palmer is anywhere near Saka level.
Like it’s mad disrespectful to even compare them two.
poet and vuj throwback
There's no rules....
England aren’t the Real Madrid or Man City of international football so not winning anything is not mediocrity. Getting close to winning something is excellence in their case, and winning something would be pure divinity. You lot are talking shite.
saying Palmer is England most creative player is a lie. Its actually Saka funny enough England most creative midfielder is Morgan Gibbs White from last season
Palmer, Maddison, grealish all clear both of em
Palmer played against Iceland on the right and was completely ineffective
Wrong.
Just wanna know how old he was then
@@Abdul-l2rwasn’t it like a few weeks ago? Like the friendlys pre euros?
Fuad is right about the "football is dead" argument
Palmer started RW against Bosnia and Iceland. Didn’t impress and the shouts went quiet. He had a lovely cameo off the bench and now they have to start running their agendas again. It’s not tactical and most of it is in bad faith.
If saka was standing out so much there would be no discussion
Everyone bar our back 4 could see the bench so saka gotta hold it as much as Kane Bellingham foden etc
Aye Robbie. Fire these anti Arsenal pagans man
Guys I'm not on Twitter so I can't gage the amount of hate Ian Wright got for that suggestion.. but either way for me it was a horrible take cause if you think Saka can go LB under Southgate in the round of 16, when he hasn't played there in 4 years. He didn't play LB at youth level. Only under Unai Emery. Under a top manager I would get the suggestion.. or letting him go LW, hell, I would have preferred he said bench him for the next game (which for me would be a completely fair suggestion given his form and that of others in the team in his position). Talking about LB given the situation is a disappointing and horrible take by a football legend. Simple as that for me.
Cams asking which players are moving us and what not when everyone has been on about Musiala, Nico Williams, Lamine Yamal, Wirtz, Kante, Kroos etc and how they are very exciting, this includes Cams btw. And this whole idea of Pep ruining football is nonsense to me. Pep has not forced a single manager to copy his style of football so I don't see how people trying to copy him is his fault. Pep's managerial career and philosophy didn't start with Man City. He played a similar way with Bayern and the Barca that everyone loved and there were still many teams that played their own style of football. Ancelotti won the league and champions league playing his style of football. Klopp won the league with Liverpool playing their gen gen press football. Sean Dyche plays his fossil football and still manages to win games and stay in the league. Hell even Ten Hairs beat Pep playing some dusty football and won the FA cup against him.
Blaming pep for everything and then any young talent they start calling them generational… these guys pick and choose when to like something
Who started this PAUSE thing? I have got a beef with him
I think a lot of people just can’t stand people being nothing but negative towards the team, never saying anything good to give the lads confidence. Rio is literally the only person that talks positively.
Yeah but it isn't easy to find positive things to say about the team despite them finishing top of the group. Also if the lads need fans to give them confidence to play well then that is embarrassing. Having said that Southgate is a bigger reason why the team isn't performing well, at least in my opinion.
PUT THIS IN YOUR CALENDAR ROBBIE: “ENGLAND WILL WIN EU24”. DATE TODAY IS 28/06/24 @19:56hrs
When talking about modern football being boring and needing to be boring to win you missed an obvious outlier, probably because of your bias: Jurgen Klopp
Euros lacking quality but Copa America doing even worse. Just shithousing every other match
You man going on like if Saka was starting at LB Arsenal fans wouldn’tbe getting absolutely cooked.
Go drop Foden LB.
And on the silencing people
When you give your opinion and you have big platform expect a reaction.
Foden hasnt played LB before consistently lol
@@CultureCams lol I’m trolling with the Foden shout.
But on a serious one Saka like it or not is one of the top 3 rw in the world.
Why would you move him out of that position it’s insanity.
Palmer does not deserve to be forced into the England team at the expense of Saka.
Back to back England player of the year.
Respect please.
Gareth Southgate takes his cat for a walk
Deluded cam, it was not Virgil's man.
CAMs genuinely is one of the worst types of fans ive ever seen. Makes sense he supports united.
Football has changed. Not for the better IMO, but different nonetheless. So when do we just accept it? About now sadly
Did we just forget about Musiala?
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not many goals, younger players gets their huge contracts don't care about playing anymore, younger guys not partying but having kids/partners at a young age. english premier league is 97% players are south american england/europe don't have talent anymore like 1990's and early 2000's.
Footballs dead because talent isn’t being cultivated anymore. Young players get paid too much too soon, young players have a lot more distractions now, they’re spending too much time on improving fitness and strength rather improving technique. If you compare striker now and strikers then, strikers then could actually strike a ball; van persie, Rooney, aguero, drogba, ibra, Defoe, Torres, list goes on. Now you have strikers that are strong fast, can link up but can’t shoot for shit (the one thing you should have mastered as a striker).
Facts! 3:00
The guy on the right has 100 ball knowledge 💯
Waiting for Bradley to drop a diss track for cams now he's just gone after Ian Wright 👀👀
KOBBIE MAINOO ALWAYS BEEN SPECIAL SAW HIM IN LOCKDOWN WHEN HE WAS 15 AND THE WORLD NEVER KNEW WHO HE WAS BUT ALWAYS KNEW HE WOULD BE A BIG PLAYER IN FURURE ITS JUST COME VERY QUICK PROUD OF HIM ENGLAND LUCKY TO HAVE SUCH A MIDFIELD MYSTRO!!!💫
With all that said england ain't winning nothing 😅😅😅😅
Majority of all this complaining is coming from the English fans and media
Germany second what
spain (so far) has done to this euros what pep did to the premier league.....
Rice, Bellingham and Mainoo are all 8's you only need one on the pitch.
Do you agree with Palmer replacing Saka in the next match?
i aint watchin the video but i already know cams will critque kane and not the others weird lad he is
Oiiiiiii shoutout Mayo w the Rory and Mal merch!
How did Germany finish 2nd Cams😂😂
i knew football was cooked last two years seeing the chasing fans talk on how the title race went loool
Instead of discussing actual football, these man went to wembley, sat outside in the heat and discussed the opinions of faceless avi twitter narratives. You can't make this up
These man turned into your standard Sky Sports pundits who dont show any interest in discussing the actual football and just repeat the same rhetorics, sad state.
@@imLAwhoareyou these man are Jamie O’Hara and Jason Cundy just 20 years younger and with a permanent tan
Its OUR show. We can discuss what we want.
@@CultureCams are you complaining about the opinions viewers have on the content you have produced? How ironic lmfao. You can’t make this up 😂😂
@fr33PS you're crying because they're laughing at people like you 😂
19:00 i dont know what the heat is doing to cams' brain but bro is truly on one. Wtf is he on about
Its pretty clear
Looking forward to disappointment 😢
copa america is amazing
Facts, football discourse is so shit.
England are making us feel this way
Rory and Mal shirt is too Clean
Worst podcast on UA-cam
Joke panel
Nah cams England XI would get RAN THROUGH
How?
@@CultureCamsWharton and Mainoo against Rodri Fabian or Kross Gundogan? Long day for that midfield
The anti Arsenal agenda is strong on this one.
After everything they've explained in the video, you think there is an arsenal agenda in this video 😂😂😂
Good, this channel has too much love for Arsenal
top episode!!
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France have been poor, Italy have been poor, Belgium have been poor, Holland have been poor, other teams have been poor as well, not just England. Even the “two best teams” so far, Germany still drew with Switzerland, and Spain only beat Albania 1-0. People get so excited at the prospect of hating on England that you can see them actually wetting their pants with the excitement, it is so embarrassing it really is.
Spain played their second team against Albania in their 1-0 win. Plus, Switzerland is of higher quality than any team England has faced. So yes, the two best teams are still playing way better football than England lol. No one is hating, it’s simply what the team has presented us so far.
This is big
Ayo pause
cams speaking facts
MAYOWA YOU TALK TOO MUCH FOR A HOST !!!!
6:16 oh shit Fuad just cooked everyone 😂😂
Must be all seasons under the sun. One is wearing shorts and t shirt / the other is wearing a wool jumper and a hat. Weird.