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Heljan Class 52 Western Unboxing & Review
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Hi Sam
Actually loco has two engines of 1350 bhp = 2700 bhp. Saw these being built at Swindon Works in 1961. Nice loco and model is good. Another good video Sam. Keep up the good work.
Nige
Thanks for this Nigel - and that must be quite a valuable thing to remember - I bet there's not many who can say they saw these being built!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I went to a local model train show last year and purchased the model at 17:00 for $20. It wasn't running and hadn't been serviced in years. Since I was just getting started in servicing my models I used it as a little test. It now runs near perfectly but it sort of tilts a little to the left and/or right going around curves. For the longest time I didn't know the classification of the model but now I do! I'm definitely going to check out the review for that model now. Another amazing review Sam! Keep up the great work. :D Also, in response to your question at the end of the video; I would probably not buy this model. If I am going to spend the little money I have I would want to spend it on a model that's high on quality, detail and performance. The quality of the model and the amount of separate detail you have to put on yourself just doesn't match the price for me, even when bought second hand. The model looks great but wouldn't make the cut for me.
P.S. - I'm purchasing the N7 and Oxford Toad this weekend from Hatton's and I can't wait. Thanks for doing reviews on those models. Helped make my decisions easier.
Thanks for that Sean - that sounds like a great buy, considering you were able to repair it! And that's fair enough - I do think there are better ways to spend money than on this!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I love a good diesel. Shame the build/design quality seems to be questionable.
Can you do a Napier Deltic one of these days? That would be properly awesome!
Thanks mate - yeah it is a shame - shocking but not surprising ;)
That would be very awesome - I'd love that! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam. .Oh boy did I like these. I will never forget sneaking into Oxley (Wolverhampton) Locomotive Depot early in the very early sixties, nobody about and in front of me was Western Enterprise D10000 in Desert Sand just outshopped in prestine condition.
These Locomotives were light for their size at 108 tons (contrast this with the brilliantly reliable Peaks at 133 tons with 2,500hp) , the two Maybachs produced 2,700 hp and boy could they pull. When they took over from the "Kings" Paddington - Birmingham Snow Hill they more than adequately did the job, hence the early loss of the Kings. The sound of the two Maybachs at full blast "music to my ears"! Excellent review as always.
Wow, cool stuff - those must have been very exciting times!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yes! I love the Class 52, especially in this sublime Rail Blue livery, maybe with the Desert Sand livery running a close second. It's a shame that the build quality isn't better, though.
Thanks a lot Harrison - yeah I really like this livery too! :D
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Nice to see a deisel once in a while!
I agree - I really enjoyed this one! :D
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Cor! As soon as I saw Western I couldnt help but think of D1015 thrashing down here in Devon! brilliant class, and a great model. I have a Lima one in red with small yellow panels, and it even sounds like a proper Whizzo even though its only DC!
haha that's awesome! The Lima ones do have a fantastic sound actually - that's true!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I’ve been looking at these for a future purchase for my layout. I didn’t realise that some shudder at a Heljan steam locomotive so I will tread carefully. A fair few extras to add to the model and detail it up. This looks a beautiful model but really surprised how secure that body is! Looks like a definite buy in the future for my layout. Clint
Thanks for the comment Clint! Yes I think if you tread carefully, you should be safe!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Another option Sam is too look at Scotrail and how they are using 5 car HSTs, the history of passenger locos is quite varied P2 2-8-2, K3, black 5s, as well as push pull class 26 and 47 as well as 158s
Ahh duly noted Colin, I will look into that, thank you! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
I'm a diesel / 0-4-0 / 4-2-2 fan
Keep up the good work, i know you're gonna hit 1 million, even if it's gonna hit 5 years, you're gonna hit 1 million subs
Ooh very awesome!! haha I very much doubt that - I'd love to get to 100,000 though!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hi Sam,
The Westerns were designed in Swindon (and built in Swindon and Crewe) to be more powerful, Co-Co versions of the German designed Warships, which often had to double head or be banked in the steep banks of Devon and Cornwall. Later in their life, some examples were fitted with dual-brakes (previously being vacuum only) to be able to be used on more trains. These dual-brakes versions were identified with a red cap on the brake pipes. The Maroon and Green Versions (also Western Champion which was Golden Ochre for a while) had the BR Coaching Stock Emblem rather than the Locomotive Emblem for some reason. If you (or anyone else) wants more information, feel free to ask.
George
Hey George, many thanks for all the background on these - much appreciate it mate! :D
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Great diesel review!🤩 I love the class 52s😍. You helped me make a decision of Heljan or Dapol. I went for Dapol. I bought a Dapol class 52 model from a uk train shop on eBay. Also Intercity82 made a review of a Dapol class 52 and they look nice. Their DC motors sound like they have DCC sound oe actual engine😄. Maybe you can do a comparison of the Dapol 52s and Heljan 52s like you did with the Terriers.😃
Class 52 Western? A perfect Segway for your upcoming class 50 review! The class 50 review you should totally do and your viewer base has been asking for!
haha!! Duly noted Jack - I'll definitely do a class 50 one day!! xD
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have just purchased one of the old Heljan class 52 it doesn’t seem to have the very loose body details and round the corners doesn’t seem to slow down. Think the older ones seem to be a bit better👍
Glad to hear that Samuel - I wish mine was better :(
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The bodies of US N scale diesel locos are usually fixed on just by clips and no screws. The bodies are very secure and don't just fall off when picked up.
That's good to hear - they're obviously better designed than this was then ;)
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I like a lot the 52 Western but I like it In Br Green With yellow panels at the end and Maroon with Yellow Panels at the Bottom of the ends
Yeah me too - the BR green sounds lovely! :D
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Hi I have 2 of these class 52 and both mine have the issues of the body coming off and the coupling coming off. When running on dcc they run much better lights and speed. But yes Heljam could do better.
Dapols model is far superior,but is in high demand. So prices are higher
Ahh is that so?? Still, it'd be worth getting one for comparison!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
My rail-blue Hornby Western cost £9 new in 1984 (the price tag is still on the box). Apparently that's £29 in 2019 money. Model trains seem a lot more expenive than they used to be. Nice model, though, and well reviewed.
Blimey! That sounds a lot more like it - even for £29! They're certainly way more expensive now, you're right!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hi Sam I've a Heljan Lion loco in all white, great motor but as you found, bits drop off. The front buffer beam fell off mine and I now can't find it!! Also the couplers sit too low, so I have to manually coax the loco onto the coaches. Great and honest review, keep up the good work. Heading to Spend on Museum bank holiday Monday-see you there?? Take care, Terry.
Hi Terry - sorry to hear you've had a similar experience - I really can't understand how they get these things wrong, madness! Sounds fab mate, have a great one!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hello Sam. I just thought i go into your previous review of the Heljan class 52, because the other day i watched the Dapol class 52 review, the one where the locomotive had no numbers or names on the body because it was design clever allegedly . Or just lazy. To be honest i not impressed by this offering either. To much plastic with no screws to hold it together. But i found your review very interesting thank you. As i have said before i have an old Hornby 52 made in Margate.
Keep up the fascinating very informative reviews 👍🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Hi Sam, thanks for this great review. Long ago I had a Class 52 from Heljan and one axle that was supposed to be powered was unpowered so in fact I had only 3 axles powered in total.
There was something wrong with the gears so i did sent it back and got a replacement.
Indeed my train guru had a big job to fit all the details and the NEM couplers were knocking off details as well.
Later the paint on the nameplates started fading out and I had enough of it and Heljan all together.
So I sold it through eBay.
Being quite a fussy person I am far from impressed by its (lousy ?) build quality (body comes off just like that and the underframe and that large gap between body and underframe) and I'd certainly would give it a big miss.
Agreed however that it certainly looks the part !
Another point is the drive on four outer axles with the unpowered middle ones just dangling in between like a jojo. CHEAP !
Why not simply power to all six axles like Bachmann does ??
Or alternatively why not press these middle unpowered axles on to the track with a spring ?? Much nicer and better !
I have a gorgeous German TRIX GG1 which also has only the four outer axles powered but the unpowered middle axles are neatly pressed on to the track with springs but ....... it is German of course.
Because the GG1 is totally made of diecast metal it still has plenty of pulling power thanks to its big weight (almost 1 kilogram).
Keep up the good work, Cheers, Jan
Ahh sorry to hear that Jan - I'm not surprised though, given my experience with Heljan! I'm hoping Heljan will do better with more recent models - in this increasingly competitive hobby, there's no room for shoddy build quality!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Agreed Sam ! And of course being fussy doesn't make life easier ! I think the very best of British model trains is Bachmann.
I have also been wary with Hornby for years (Hornby also starts with an "H" by the way :-) but I have made an exception last year September when they launched their new Class 87. I was pleasantly surprised of the nice detail and good quality ! I only had to bow out and made a handrail straight very carefully. And no missing or broken parts nor paint blemishes.
They really did a good job with their Class 87. Equipped with Legomanbiffo sound I am very happy with it.
I paid the equivalent of £262 from Amanda of AJM railways which included sound and postage to Australia. If you see and hear what I got for that amount of money I think it was worth every penny. Cheers, Jan
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Cheers Sam. My preference is diesel/electrics as I prefer the modern era stuff I grew up with. Having said that, I do love the Hornby's 0-4-0 Steam pugs! You just can't beat em mate! They just don't let you down & best of all... no traction tyres mate! They look good, too!
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Glad to hear that Jin, they're definitely all good!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
My choice of the class 52 was the Dapol made green one, and it does look awesome. I got it for 120 GBP, 2nd hand, DCC fitted, with unopened detail pack, and it has screws! And some news on my Roco class 08 "restoration" : Roco accepted my part order, so hopefully (even dough it was in production 2003-2004) they still have parts for it, - fingers crossed!
For a 2nd hand price; Yes i would buy one, the pulling power is a feature i desire in a loco, hopefully it is also reliable too!
Hey Tom - yes I'm hearing that the Dapol ones are much better - and that does sound a bargain for DCC fitted!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
6:54 they were twin engined and they were 1350bhp each, so a total power output of 2700bhp
Duly noted! Quite beasty things!
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@@SamsTrains the Deltics, at 2 x 1650bhp, still gets my favourite vote though LOL
It some of those locos which certainly defines diesel
Great vid!
Great loco!
It certainly is indeed! Really glad you liked it! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Must admit most comments are very fair, some possibly not representative, 'though observed with yours - coupling for example.
I have a 'rail blue' one, and have had a few minor issues, but otherwise the look and performance are superb.
Fast, relatively quiet unless 'maxed out' (which you shouldn't do, nor do you need to do).
Traction is superb. Speed is more than acceptable.
Slow starts are not easy, 'though are possible. I think the flywheels must be large, creating a lot of inertia - possibly.
I can get started and instantly slow a little - with practice it's not that obvious - to get a crawling start.
Thanks for the review of one of my big favourites.
I had a Dapol 52 - for 2 days. Had to return to seller for a failed PCB, which wasn't 'covered' by Dapol - not a recognised Dapol dealer - another story, but annoyed me. The Dapol cannot haul like the Heljan anyway.
Alan.
Thanks a lot Alan - glad you thought they were reasonable! Overall it's a great looking model, just let down by a few issues in the design! Sorry to hear about your 52!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Thanks Sam. Overall my best diesels are the Hornby 50, 56, 60, SD HST and Hattons 66 (care if/when removing the lid 'though - you WILL ping some things!!) Alan.
The design of the box reminds me of what Athearn's Genesis-series locomotives come in, but even those have a nice large drawing of the locomotive in the box on the side of it, but those are also designed to be "top of the line" (at least in terms of details), and most of the boxes I've seen here in the US have used a plastic window on the front to showcase the locomotive.
Ahh really?? It does seem to be quite popular packaging!
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Hi Sam you should not judge it so badly it most problem was second hand the first owner must have forest the body off and broke the clips My class 33 is very hard to get the body off it also has no screws I have a Heljan class 33 its the best train I have Peter.
Hi Peter - yes that's very true, it could well have been the previous owner. However, this is the only Heljan loco I've ever bought second hand, but it's far from the only one to have fallen apart due to lack of proper screws!
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I used to have one of these in bergundy and a warship in blue
Very nice! That sounds lovely actually!! :D
Awesome model Sam! One of my favorite British Diesels! They’re very big and 68ft in length! Seven preserved examples is indeed a healthy amount!
Thanks a lot Ryno - I can see why, very imposing looking things!! :D
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I find the Heljan couplings to be a pain. I bought a Heljan Class 05 BR Green shunter diesel not too long ago. Beautiful runner, very smooth, nice detail... except that the coupling when plugged in at either end of the loco were so long to the sleepers that they were catching on every point the loco ran over, causing a derailment or just causing the loco to stop dead where it got caught. I had to clip a couple of milimetres off the bottom of the coupling arms to sort the issue.
Great review as always Sam \m/
I do too Markus - this isn't the first time I've had a problem either - lots of them seem to droop down onto the track, as though they can't be bothered to work properly - I feel your pain mate!
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Piko also uses a standard box, with a standard "window" so I think Heljan just doesn't want the minor expense of putting in extra foil
haha yeah - it's all a bit strange really.... even a line drawing would help, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
love these locos but the dapol is the one for me, better shape at the front, the real one is 2770bhp. 2x 1350 bhp
Thanks Peter - yes I've heard much better things about the Dapol version too!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I did get a cab ride with Western Ranger on the Severn Valley Railway, a long time ago. I admitted it was different to riding round the carriages in the cab of a steam engine, although I didn't enjoy it as much. However....
Sam's second hand Western Diesel was let down by the unsightly flimsy quality of chassis and body work. Sam had to be frustratingly careful with the model, as it had nearly caused a nasty accident on him.
One day, Sam was a bit of a scaredy-cat. He was frightened to pick the model diesel up off the shelf where he'd put it, in case it fell apart as it had out of the box. Gingerly, he slid the diesel into both hands. The model was still in one could-fall-apart piece. He got as far as carefully placing the model on his track. This was where calamity took hold.
"YIKES!" shrieked Sam in alarm. The diesel's wheels sat on the track perfectly well, but the minute Sam let it go, the model came apart completely. He carefully gathered up the pieces of the insolent box on wheels, and angrily discarded them in his wastepaper basket. He was annoyed with Heljan who didn't know any better, than to just clip the model together. However, he wasn't mad for long. Sonic the Hedgehog appeared out of nowhere and asked Sam what was wrong. Sam explained.
"Steam engines are better built," Sonic pointed out. "They don't fall apart so easily." Sam saw his spiny friend had a good point.
"Thanks, Sonic. I think I'll stick to steam engines from now on."
"Don't buy a model that falls apart on you, Sonic Says," quoted the Hedgehog. He gave his signature wink and disappeared. Sam played with Steam Engines for the rest of his session. It was good to ask advice, and he knew it too well.
That's fantastic Kelly - that sounds like a great experience! But yes - mine not so good - but not terrible either!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Your experience with Heljin seems to be my overall experience with Bachmann as an Yank consumer. Overall for the price you could do worse, however most brands like Kato, Atlas, and Walther's seem to make better right out the box locos with DCC. The overall QA seems to be shoddy at best and are better off saving your pennies for the more pricey option. Good review and cheers!
Yeah I've had a similar experience with Bachmann - though rarely quite as poorly made as this! But that's true - better to save pennies for better options.... though actually these are similarly priced to the better options!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hornby version of that warship the class 52 warship diesel
Ooh awesome! :D
I really like this mode a real shame on the quality I really want to get one of these
Another great video Sam
Thanks a lot mate - yeah it is a shame really - ought to have been a bit better for the money!
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Hi Sam just bought a second hand oxford rail gun for 30 pound and a auto coach for 7 pound
It is hard to convay the weight of the gun it weighs a ton
Wow that's awesome - what a bargain! Hope you enjoy them mate! :D
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Good video Sam. If I recall right the Class 52’s didn’t last long because the were hydraulic diesels and BR declared them non standard. This model doesn’t seem worth it to me, the problems seem to outweigh any benefits. It does look good though.
Ahh duly noted Patrick, thanks for letting me know! Yes I'd agree - overall, there's better ways to spend £80 in my opinion!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Glad to be of help.
You’ve got to get a Dapol 68 Sam . A truly fantastic model. Good review on Heljan 52 . I’ve got the Dapol one which is good but darent take it apart
Yeah!! I've heard a lot about those - I will definitely look into getting one! I hear the Dapol 52 is far better - so you did the right thing I reckon! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
That clip issue is just crazy. My dapol 68 has just clips holding the body on however they are crazy secure and can hold a chassis about twice the weight of the bachmann 66! My 68 also has all the detail pre fitted however the coupling is pre fitted and cut down detail with a hole in the air dam on the rear is pre fitted so there is no issues with the coupling. The only thing with the 68 is that it has broken 3 couplings of my rolling stock when I had a derailment and the power of it just pulled them off.
Yeah I agree - it's nuts! Absolutely - if they use clips, they're usually almost impossible to get off - let alone dropping off accidentally - I think Heljan are trolls myself ;)
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@@SamsTrains Dapol put fillets into the chassis to allow for easy removal of the body. It is the easiest to maintain model I have
I was able to score a practically new Dapol Class 52 here in the States from a US seller on eBay for the equivalent of £110 and I'm very impressed with the quality! I'd like to see a comparison with the Heljan.
Something I found out about the Dapol Class 52 was that the pre-2019 release had some issues, like body screws that were too tight and detail inaccuracies. I noticed another commenter to this video preferred the Heljan to the Dapol & I wonder if they have the earlier version. The current version of the Dapol Western (like what I have) has a 21-pin decoder socket while the earlier versions have an 8-pin socket. Something to watch out for if you go hunting for one.
Ooh that is exciting!! Glad to hear it's good quality though - thanks for sharing this though, interesting stuff!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Amazing locomotive
Hopefully if my parents treat me because my bro is heading to London this weekend. I might try to get the 80th anniversary mallard with the golden plated wheels with a replica of the plate. Not sure shall I leave it on static display or operate it ?
Thanks very much Connor - ooh that's awesome - I hope you can get one mate!! :D
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I wou'd only operate it at special days so it even has a even more speci feel to it
DagelijksFer yeah ok I’ll do that then
I have several of these Westerns and none have suffered from loose detail. Maybe this is why it was second hand.
Yes that's very possible Paul - but then again, a better design (using screws, and not friction) would have stopped this from ever being a problem!
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It's a pity you have not done a GWR/ WR running session culminating in the HST , as these are now being withdrawn. A session with Stars, Castles Kings, Warships, Westerns, class 50s and fianaly the HST.
Yeah that's true - I ought to give that a try one day! Very good idea!
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It may also be worth looking at the other routes that have now moved on from the HST, Midland Main Line ; staring with the Midland Compound, Jubilee, class 45, and then the HST. On the East Coast, start with the C1, then the early A1 onto either the later A3 or A4, onto the deltic and again the HST. The HST has been with us a long time. I have always been a steam first person, but it can't be denied the HST has been an iconic train.
I recently got a gwr and a virgin mark 3 coach
That's awesome - hope you enjoy them mate! :D
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5:24 the same thing happened with my now gotten rid of Life Like proto 2000 Alco PA.
That's what made me very very picky about locomotives and I am not afraid to call out manufacturers when they pull stunts like that.
I respect Hornby Dublo and that old stuff but, when I buy a frame for a coach and it arrives in splinters and lie about the Railroad Teak having metal wheels of course i'm gonna call them garbage, because it proves they have no care for their customers. It's pretty much the same thing what LeoKimVideo says.
Ahh sorry to hear that - it's a real pain! Absolutely - I'm keen to call out manufacturers too, in the hopes of making a difference to the modelling community!
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@@SamsTrains Yeah I am usually called a hater for that. It really gets me Steamed up.
I like the class 52 and recently got a brand new old stock Western Enterprise just like yours. At least the Lima clip on body doesn't fall off even if the detail isn't up to the same standards, runs well enough though. I'm was also tempted to get a warship "Rapid" as well, funny enough that would have been a maroon one but a Lima model I believe.
This does seem to put me off of Heljan models however.
Ahh that's great Rob - absolutely - I don't think I've ever had a Lima body fall off!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam, I think we need to revisit the ranking here. Detail is 4 stars? The light works but you can't see it, can't take a marker at the factory to blank out the axles, and the wheels are cast poorly. No details seen past the grills. 3 stars is generous. Performance is 4 stars. It won't crawl, it makes rubbing noises on curves, pulls out it's coupling, and you cannot stop it quick. Frankly, if a Bachmann did that would you give it a four? I think not. Mechanism you gave a four. The one newton is impressive but not if you can't use it. Quality is a 2 and I agree. Value is a four. I don't know because, like you, I don't know what the suggested price is and that's the one I go by. You got it for a good price. Looking at your list, I would rather have any engine below that Class 52. Do you feel the same when you look at this list?
Yes I suppose you're right Ray - does seem quite generous when put like that!
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I decided why not watch your reviews on diesel locomotives for a change for today. Not only I love steam locomotives but I also love diesel locomotives.
That's great to hear - hope you enjoyed the video mate! :D
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I think the dealer wasn’t entirely honest with you when bought that . I have Western Empress , the body is securely clipped on to the chassis and the there is no gap , the loco crawls and there is no problem with the couplings. It has a five pole motor and the instructions say it is capable of hauling fifteen coaches . All European manufacturers use clip fittings on the their locos . I would say your loco may have been dropped or the clips have been broken before you bought it . David
Yeah that is very possible, but you can usually tell if a loco's been used or damaged due to the state of the gears,wheels and bodywork - but as I say, I've seen many others like this, and I've even had a few concurring comments too! I think inconsistency is the thing with Heljan - I've had a few where the couplings were fine, but also plenty with drooping couplings!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
wow that's cool I just changed my name and stuff but that's a nice layout you got!
Thanks Gabe - and awesome new channel name! :D
good review i have a class 52 it is one from hornby which i got for 20 pounds from York train show which was in very good condition ,the body also clips on and so do the body shells on lima .
Ahh that sounds good Mark! Yes that's true - but crucially, the Hornby and Lima bodyshells tend to stay on the loco ;)
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Intreating model, I do agree the cliping systm is certainly odd! But it looks nice on the outside. Helgin do need to sort some things out!
Great video sam 👍
Thanks George - yes outwardly it does look nice overall, but it's far from perfect, absolutely!
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You should do some sort of British freight train, because that would be cool, seeing as some of us have never seen a British freight train (it would be funny if this was one and I didn't Know because I'm American lol)
Thanks for the comment! I do run quite a lot of freight trains - check out some of my running sessions if you like?? :D
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Diesels can be devious
Hey certainly can!! ;D
D1007...the battery door was not clipped on properly either.
While gorgeous, it's a shame that the body doesn't stay on properly. I have an older Athearn P40DC that is a clip-on body and it has never had any issues with the body staying on. It's actually one of my hardest locomotives to get the body off of. Great review though, looking forward to the upcoming stream!
Yeah I agree - it really lets it down! Sounds like yours has been properly designed then - unlike this ;)
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You have hit my hear. My favorite loco. GWR fan, Sam. Good price. They do put a lot it. I owe a few. Build quality is not good. Lots of bits do fall off even when new. I remember them in Cardiff. In poor condition, at the end of their working life. I agree with it being flimsy in build. They are ok, mine does. But I would like more build quality everything seems to fall off. I also have the Lima version but, I DCC. I will have to spend a bit of money to convert it.
Thanks a lot Nigel, glad you agreed with that mate! Sorry to hear yours fall apart too though :(
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Nice i just got a lima 37 and a hornby jinty
That's awesome Michael - both great models - I hope you enjoy them! :D
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These engines had lots of liveries including red,oak, silver, green, and blue!
Ahh really?? I'd love to see a silver or oak liveried one! :D
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9:21 lol the built Crew plate has been fitted upside down! oh deal
Ooh is it really?!?! I didn't notice that! Oh well - it proves what I was saying about the quality of Heljan ;)
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This model would be ( in the wheel configuration) a Ao-1-Ao-Ao-1-Ao
Ahh very interesting Seth, thanks for sharing that! :D
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17:16, Does anyone else see Diesel 10? He's a 42 Class for those who didn't know, also, 18:16, is that the odd one out, the Class 26 with the Crimson and Cream livery coaches, actually, was there an odd one out?
haha well spotted!! I'm not sure I put an odd one out this time, lol! ;D
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Didn't realise heljan did one in oo gauge I always thought it was dapol
Yeah!! Though I don't think they're produced them for a year or two!
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Sam: now it is just a heljan box. Me (having just watched the 1361 video): BAH *slams table* NO NO NO
hahaha!! xD
This is an old model from 2012 so not sure it represent current models
they could well have sorted some of these things
That's true, though I'm not sure they have a current version of this?
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The Dapol Western blows this one away,also why dose the front roof look like a baseball cap!.
haha glad to hear that - I'll have to try one soon! haha I don't know xD
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ah good a diesel always good to see these on the track, nice looking too odd to think they had to make differant types to suit the end of steam trains
Yeah I agree, always enjoy running locos like this! :D
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hello sam i like the class 52 and when you said train fair did you mean the train fair where you got the USA dock tank and the C1 and I think that this model gets a 8/10 and I don't have any diesels but there are some that I would like and did you order a Bachmann henry yet because there has been no Thomas and friends reviews this year so far and I love all your videos and I hope for many to come in the future from david
Thanks a lot for that David - noo it wasn't Warley - it was a smaller local one! Yes that's true - I'll be looking into more Bachmann Thomas stuff soon! :D
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Definitely show more diesels Sam
More coming very soon Mayo!! :D
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One of the only diesels I actually like.
Yeah! These do have many fans - lovely things though! :D
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Does anyone have experience with the n scale western from dapol, looking to purchase one. Is the dapole western in n scale any good?
A big one... love British diesels! Pity the Class 66 is the only one coming to Germany. But I got two of them in N scale.
Thanks very much Rex - is that so?? That's pretty cool - what are they like in N scale??
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Sam'sTrains yes. We have the Class 66 even in southern Germany. The class 66 I got are from Kato. And they are excellent models! Quiet, smooth, big flywheel, and even sprung bogies. Each axle is sprung. So pickup is excellent.
Hi Sam I like your videos,keep up the good work
Thanks so much - that's very kind of you! :D
I like the class 9f and class b12
Very nice, wizzo’s are a personal favourite
Cheers!! Glad you like them too! :D
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Why did they not use screws. Screws would obviously connected the body much better than the terrible clips and nothing would just come apart!:O
Great video Sam:)👍
Yeah you're right - that was my thought too!
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Could you try the Heljan Class 35 Hymek? I want one and have heard good things about it. But I also heard good things about this one.
I'd really like to, have heard good things about it too! :D
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Hi Sam can you do a review on the Dapol Class 52 as I think it is much better than this. Planning to get one but want to see a good review of it? :)
I've heard that too actually - I'd love to try one!! :D
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Its actually rather common for diesels to be clipped down, where would you put the screws?
Is it?! Most of my diesels have screws on the base, near the bogies, which hold the bodies on.... can't think of any Bachmann diesels with no body screws?!
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Sam'sTrains hmmm, most of my diesels are Lima can’t say I have come across screws, that’s maybe why
Are the screws under the cab?
I had a class 14 by heljan and i had a lot issues with it not running properly and flimsy detail . So i probably wouldn't get one of those .
Even the 47xx that came out last year had a lot of build quality issues as well.
I would say dapols class 52 is way better than the one by heljan as it's much better quality and is designed to a much higher standard
Oh god don't even mention the Heljan class 14 - I had one in to service once, and it was about the worst design I'd EVER seen - I've laid turds that ran better!
I've heard good things about the Dapol 52 - I might look into it!
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Nice looking model shame that they only use clips to hold the body sections onto the chassis.
Thanks Ben - yeah that was a bit incompetent! ;D
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You could compare it with the dapol ones when they are released
That's a very good idea - I'd love to try that! :D
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Hi Sam, have you reviewed Hornby class D49/1 and if so what was your opinion.? Thanks.
Yes I have! I have a review on those! :D
Hi Sam, another comment, but do you know if any model railway brands sell any National Rail train models? (Like the diesel trains that run through Cumbria) I know this is one of them but just wondering if there is any more!
Hmmm I'm not absolutely sure about that mate - have a good dig around online, and you may find some, if you know the classes? :D
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I’m sick staying home from school so I got to see it now
Ahh sorry to hear that - hope you feel better soon :(
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Hi Sam
I have my first vid on my channel and I love the music at the start any way I will probably be uploading again today and fell free to comment
Thx
Ben
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That's awesome Ben - I'll take a look!! :D
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Sam :)
Sam'sTrains thx
Well done on this review Sam! :D
Thanks very much Kameron! :D
Hi Sam,
Well done for nearly hitting 44,400 subs (I'm one of them):D
Thanks so much Fabiola - really appreciate your support! :D
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Awesome review, the locomotive looks nice :)
Thanks a lot mate, glad you liked it! :D
"Of course, the buying part is the most important part." BINGO!
Yep - it's a shame they don't make it less obvious.... it's cringey! ;D
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hey sam just thught i ask if you heard in thenews about the model railway exibition that got vandalised i looked at some of the pictures of the damage and im not kidding i almost cried
Hey Daniel - yes I have seen it, and it was very sad and disgusting - the only consolation is that they're able to recoup some of their losses thanks to the generosity of others!
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Sam wanna know something? Most people say.... "Ohhh i dont have time for Half an hour videos cuz i gotta do stuff :p" But i have time to watch all of these! :D Great Video!! Shoutout Coming your way :D
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Well that's really kind of you Sam, thanks so much for sitting through them mate!
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I don't have the money for a loco so if I go to any train fairs I just buy rolling stock
That sounds fair enough - I find it more exciting to buy new rolling stock anyway! :D
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Great review Sam!
Thanks a lot mate! :D
The western class she is very nice! But maybe next time a Bachmann class 37?
Thanks Marco! Yeah maybe - I've heard great things about those!
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Could the missing fasteners be retrofitted easily?
I'm sure they probably could be!
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I think I’ll stick to Hornby or Bachmann Branchline diesels when I get around to those. Heljan...it feels like I have a strange feeling they don’t care. With the Tango, that really had me lose my hopes in getting a Heljan loco. I can’t believe it’s sorta that poor, but at least it’s better than the tango.
Wait, you said that have bulbs instead of LED? I’ve never heard of modern locos with ordinary bulbs before. I’m now curious to see how long those bulbs will last. You agree Sam? Lol
And the body, how it comes off so easily, now that part scares me the most. I can’t imagine not running it for a while when you have a huge collection, and you forget about the quality and that happens. It’s like my Hornby Commonwealth of Australia, I had to repeat myself saying lift it loco first cause the loco and tender aren’t permanently connected. They’re permanently connected by the wires.
Great review, nonetheless Sam. Keep up the good work bro. ;D
Yeah I can see why you'd do that- Hornby/Bachmann are priced similarly, but they're much better quality! Yeah me too - very surprised to see bulbs! They should last okay, since they're only on low voltage - but they're nowhere near as bright or efficient as LEDs!
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Great video Sam but I think you should try and get a Dapol Class 52 a lot my better than Haljan I have two both under the Severn Valley Railway persevered locomotives
Thanks for that - yes I've heard that too, I bet they are better quality!!
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