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Peter Parker balances his life as an ordinary high school student in Queens with his superhero alter-ego Spider-Man, and finds himself on the trail of a new menace prowling the skies of New York City.
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Tony's pretty good at creating villains isn't he
very much so, Ultron being the most dangerous, as shown in what if
A big arc for tony is realising he needs to not be in the reigns of everything. He learns that more and more, especially towards the final movies whilst before not only did Tony sort of force himself into every scenario. He in many cases actively insulted or belittled people efforts to contribute to do stuff purposefully.
The entirety of mysterio and his crew hatred of him is because of Tony flaunting his tech but also dismissing it and making fun of it .Something he'd never do to one of his own inventions.
Same with ultron. Granted it was was motivated by fear but at it's core he still felt a need to have massive control/ influence over the world protection directly.
Even the civil war. Tony witnesses a bad guy do something terrible but because he was made guilty he felt the need to effectively take control of the avengers - through the accords -
Same with iron man 2 if I recall.
It's only thanks to mentoring spidey and his failures leading up to the final avengers that tony finally starts to realize other people are active forces in the world too and sometimes he needs to take the back seat. Which was why his friendship with Nebula was so big because she's exactly the counter-example fo tony. Someone if he met say a year or two ago would of instantly made a life long enemy of.
I kind of like his character arc. But damn it's kind of hard not to hate him when he consistently screws people over. Even if those people sometimes overreact orhave an element of pettiness.
No wonder he died. He created mysterio.
"Villains"
@@ndfdm5705 that why a like tony stark in term of characters he is not perfect and he evolved in each movies to be a better person
It’s reasons like this why I can’t hate Vulture in this movie. I mean, he’s the very person that Spider-Man looks after: The little guy. But this little guy is stuck in a world that cheats him so he uses crime to stay ahead. I can’t hate him for this in this movie.
Yep plus he keeps spidermans secret and doesn’t tell his identity
@@mikehance6086 only further shows the good nature in him. I can never hate this guy.
@@francostevo9939 yep and i also think spiderman will be key in getting vulture back to his own universe.
Yah and threatening to shoot a teenager in the face, we've all been there right?
@@NaturalEnquirer oh yeah. Take everything from what someone says out of proportion and extend it into something so misdirect like what you’re doing. 🙄
The saddest part is that Tony's intentions weren't even dickish. He wanted to organise damage control and cleanup of the mess he and the rest of the Avengers *caused*
These guys weren't even on his radar and he didn't consider the consequences of independent contractors like them.
Tony created the Vulture by *pure chance* and its honestly just tragic.
but the government and tony might have also foreseen the consequences of letting the independent contractors handle the alien mess too. but the gov't are hypocrite bout it by also using the leftovers for their benefits dangerously
That’s the problem, he is a billionaire playboy. He doesn’t relate to the average joe. Not sure if Rhodey helped keep him grounded in comics or other shows/films but for someone like him that’s critical. When he and his crew started selling weapons I lost sympathy for him.
you would think the simple solution is the pay off the contracts of anyone they are taking over at least
OR how about the city not hire out jobs knowing this new department of cleanup is going to take over anyway
Its kinda dumb to expect the Government NOT to take over this kind of work. Bunch of alien tech lying around and you think some random independent contractors will be allowed to collect this stuff? City shouldn't have hired them in the first place.
@@ergob3907 Yeah but they had contracts with the city. I’m sure they got what they were entitled to legally but going forward it cuts business owners out from work for their companies and employees. Which costs more: being the cause of someone’s villain origin or helping ppl earn a living legally.
Also, what was the gov gonna do with said alien tech? Or was it gonna go to Stark Industries?
A villain who's relatable and down to earth. That's how you do it.
I wouldn't call vulture very down to earth...
@@cardboard9124 I would say he is very up above the sky but below space
@@cardboard9124 Just like Tazerface "It's metaphorical!!!"
Green Goblin & Vulture Wants Money.
@@jailbreak-bob1670 Goblin wanted money out of greed. Vulture wanted money to support his family. There's a big difference between the two. Did vulture get greedy? Yeah, but at his core he was still doing what he could to provide for his family, even if it was through criminal means.
it's awesome how he really earns his name as the vulture in this movie, it's more than just "oh he looks like a vulture, so hes a vulture", he earned it through the 8 years of scavaging around his *DEAD* contract which was the alien equipment, thus becoming the vulture then
The thing that people who hate the MCU don’t appreciate, or conveniently overlook, or don’t give credit to, is how well Marvel was able to translate concepts, ideas, and characters to the big screen.
The vulture in the comics looks ridiculous. Like, that skin tight green suit, the feathers, and the face looks goofy as hell.
The way the MCU not only made vulture look cool but also made his story seem very fitting and relatable.
@@steverogers7601 I think this was *before* Disney contaminated it. 😂
@@mickey7399 are you dumb?
@@mickey7399 You say that, but damn they still do a much better job than those xmen movies
He basically scavenges other people's nests so he can feed his family. Basically what Vultures do.
Keaton: "I'm all in on this, I could lose my house"
Lady: "Tony Stark will compensate you for your work and time; 'cause he's insanely rich"
Keaton: "Oh ok thanks, I won't go on a rampage then"
*Roll credits*
Yeah, he's on a city contract. A legal contract worth x amount. He will get the money if the city breaches the contract.
@@jamiestewart48exactly. I feel like all they had to do was bitch loud enough that Tony or happy would hear and boom automatic refund and a little extra for the inconvenience
Delusional lmao. As if covid never taught any of you a valuable lesson that governments and the billionaires dont give a flying fck about you. Musk, Bezos, and Gates etc. all massively profited while small businesses were forced to shut down because the US govt failed to compensate them enough and in time.
From the sounds of it he probably overextended his finances, they probably paid back the contract worth, but that doesn't cover all the extra equipment he bought for the job.
@@jamiestewart48 that’s the dumbest part of this. The city already owes him the money, or at least costs and a breakage fee. More likely he could unload the trucks to stark or get a sub deal under stark anyway. Get the break fee AND get a sub deal.
The era where MCU helmet still practical, and not just nanotech
To be honest, everyone might as well be a wizard. I of course know the technology as magic thing, but all the nanotech just feels lazy.
I hated it when they gave Flash a "magically" appearing and disappearing cowl in these last few seasons. It loses something.
@@jadocastor5118 It really is lazy. At least thought has to be put into a design to make it functional and look good. It made you think "wow, so that's how all the pieces work together". Nanotech just cheapens everything.
@@OneGaurdian .... I don't know why they even bother with the Cowl anymore. Everyone knows his identity and he barely wears the damn thing when he is in costume.
Agree ryt der
Even the villains had better character development than what we see today
this IS today you godless zoomer
Yeah, I too long for the ancient past of 2017. Will the good times ever return?
@@stevedoolan1540 I miss donald trump too
Ahh 6 years ago, those were the days..
I mean, villains are still pretty good in movies. You do realize there's more movies than JUST the MCU right?
The Vulture wasn't a regular villan but a guy with motives we can understand.
He even kept peters identity a secret from Scorpion.....he did drop a building on him tho....
allow me to disagree, I think the vulture is a pretty coherent and "normal" villain, the problem is that most MCU villains are stupid and pointless
You can see very valid points in the actions of Michael Keaton in the movie. thanos? ultron? loki? I don't quite understand if they are stupid or badly written
I would venture to say that he, Obadiah Stane, hela, Justin Hammer, Gorr (even if the movie is terrible) are the only villains that have legitimate motivations (I'm sure I'm forgetting someone)
@@Commodore-Chad What were Stane's and Hammer's motivations beyond money and power?
@@squallstopher608 well pal.. money and power are pretty real motivations
@@Commodore-Chad I'm sorry, I thought you were listing MCU villains who weren't stupid and pointless... Money and power is about as cliched as you can get in terms of villainy
@@squallstopher608 according to the world population graph, the snap of thanos would have sent us to 1950 in amount of population, how does that fix the problem? It only gives us 70 more years to solve problems
the reality is that money and power are means to a corrupted end, people who seek it is because they believe that it will solve their problems like i dont know respect, love, health
I want to know which villain do you think is good
ah, whiplash can be a good villain too
Man I love Michael Keaton he’s so charismatic and such a damn good actor.
💯
Especially considering the dialogue he was given. Give it another watch, on a sheet of paper that dialogue wouldn’t be super compelling. But damn he sells the shit out of it
Make a villain relatable to the every day man and he’ll be seen as a hero.
Well he was never a villain to begin with
@@styxxanaxkolasi879 you’re not wrong.
You’re wrong too. He is still a villain.
Iron man left behind a mixed legacy. Though he saved lives he also created super villains, recruited Spider man to clean up his own mess and in the process ruin Parker's life.
What sucks, is that he never really "paid" for his sins. Other's have.
@@jadocastor5118 But he did, in the end, pay the ultimate sacrifice to save the universe.
They explain it through the MCU Phase One, The Sokovia Accords. They also mention that having great power also creates the threat that they have.
If stark was smart, he could've hired those salvage crews instead of putting them out of a job,
That's what I love about him. He's doing his best but he's still an egotistical billionaire jackass who doesn't always think things through. He's saved countless lives but condemned those he might have noticed if he just stopped for a second to think
The fact that they didn’t even offer to compensate him is so insane
Typical AMERICA
@@novusparadium9430he would be compensated in real life
Michael Keaton is a cinematic treasure. Johnny Dangerously, Beetlejuice, Batman, Birdman... if he's in it, it's worth seeing.
I love beetlejuice its a shame he's only in it for a few scenes
The Founder
@@benshearer1710 he's gonna replay beetlejuice in the second movie coming soon
@@ngsonny2177 wait what I havnt heard of this im gonna look ot up right now
Ok so there's alot of speculation on whether it will be made or not as it's had a hard time with the writing but there are parties involved who want too see this movie made so fingers crossed
I want to see him play old Bruce Wayne in a Batman Beyond movie.
Vulture is one of MCU’s most relatable “villains”
A hard working New Yorker in construction losing his job because of aliens and rich people
Michael Keaton perfect too
I wouldn't say he's the "villain" exactly here...he got screwed over big time...plus. how can you dislike Michael Keaton???
Villain seems like a nasty way of putting it for someone like him in his situation. It's more of him just being an antagonist to the story.
@@edneddy2 he murders people with no regrets, and even jokes about it
ehh while his motive is fine dude is producing super dangerous weapons and selling them to criminals, he and his crew share some level of culpability for the damage done by the weapons they produce.
@@a0point0of0view1 so did raytheon. but you're not mad at him. your mad at putin LOL!
@@guillermoelnino I don't get what the hell you're babbling about, the military industrial complex is fucked up and the only things that can be done about would either put too much power in one group's hands or tearing it out fucking over the employees and employees of subsidiary businesses, well unless you've got any bright ideas
Love how Tony is completely oblivious to the effect that his actions would have on Toomes and his crew. "Yeah sure, we'll clean it up, just take care of it". Makes you think how many other things he's done since becoming a hero that negatively impact other industries.
Tony took credit for the BARF technology that Quentin Beck created.
He created a robot that destroyed Sokovia which led to the deaths of Helmet Zemo's family.
He created the Jericho missiles that killed Wanda and Pietro Maximoff's parents.
Even though Tony had nothing to do with his father taking credit for Anton Venko's creation of the arc reactor, Anton's son Ivan is punishing Tony for it. ("sins of the father shall be visited upon the son").
He ditched Aldrich Killian at a new year's eve party which caused him to become the Mandarin.
Finally, Tony must've been a real jerk to Obidiah Stane to cause him to hire terrorists to kidnap Tony in Afghanistan.
@@loudboy317 Man, the Stark family is adept at making enemies as they are in building. Lol.
Being unemployed for years, I rooted for this villain.
This is a villain born straight out of the 2008 financial crisis mindset. Rich billionaires became filthy rich and crashed the economy. But then it was regular people who paid the price while those rich people were bailed out by the government and profited from it. Vulture's story is the story of billions of humans around the planet who suffered at the expense of a rich guy's fuck up.
We all do
We do not you fool.💀
love how when he punch the guy his crew all tried to rush them....truly shows how close he is with those people who work for him.
always loved how casting Keaton made this character seem like a multiverse version of Bruce Wayne where he is a struggling hard working man that was pushed to criminal activity but still donned a flying animal motif as his alter ego
Probably the most believable story line in the whole Avenger universe
When Batman become a villain.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
One thing I really like about this movie is the DIY nature of everything, pretty much all their tech is made from scraps, including Spidey's for half the movie. It makes it have an element of realism to the sci-fi-ness
That's why I love the bulkiness and plating of the old ironman suits.
0:56 He is a good leader.
Characters like Vulture are my favorite because they represent everything that's wrong with superheroes, just like "The Boys". Tony Stark was great but he obviously had tons of flaws and his flaws are what create "villains" like Vulture or Aldrich Killian. Vulture is arguably who Tony Stark COULD have become, had he not had easy access to money and resources. Essentially, they we're very similar people up until Vulture is unfairly denied access to information that could either cause great progress or great destruction in the world, depending on who has access to it. It's a tough delima, Tony knows he is more responsible than not when it comes to deciding what to do with great power and therefore he tries to limit other peoples access to it, simply because he doesn't know how other people will use it. While this might be the right decision in the greater scheme of things, we can clearly see how selfishness and unwillingness to trust/allow others to make mistakes and learn, can create "villains".
This is one of the parts that the MCU got right and it’s these parts that make the MCU successful.
Sure they’re comic book movies, and yes they can be safe but the way they translated certain characters, ideas, and concepts from the comic books onto the big screen was so well done.
Not only is vulture’s story so relatable, it legit fits this world and the circumstances.
Its not a Marty Scorsese film, duh, but it’s at least competent in how they’ve tied things together.
Tony wasn't nice to them, but action's of Killian and Beck were results of their own pettiness... the world isn't a nice place, being "pushed" doesn't justify becoming monster. You have to overcome it, grown up. Vulture is above them, he only wanted to help his family, his friends, and not biting someone else in self proclaimed revenge.
@@vitcher3507 I get what you're saying with Beck, but I don't know about Killigan. Tony was an arrogant prick back then and I highly doubt back then he would've taken him seriously evem if he wasn't going to bang Rebecca Hall. I'd probably wanna fuck him over too if I was in his position. Probably not in the same manner but still.
This was the best Tom Holland Spier-Man movie, with also the best plot and "villain" backstory. Villain who's actually just a guy trying to defend himself against giant corp screwing him over.
I liked vulture because he's just a guy. His whole operation is just him and the boys making stuff and selling it, taking care of his family and trying not to hurt anyone
But he did selling that alien tech to god knows who could have hurt tons of people
@@jrock1126 selling it for 8 years without anyone even noticing anything...
"Michael Keaton becomes a criminal". Dude is such a good actor that people think this scene is real.
Picking up right at the aftermath of Avengers (2012) was such a dope/smart move. So much material and possibilities to explore.
And to think his villainy could have been completely avoided if she had just said instead: "All post-battle clean up operations are now under our jurisdiction, and we will fairly compensate you and your crew for any investments you made prior to this job, and for anything you potentially could have salvaged here. I mean, we're literally working with both the government, and Tony Stark, so we have the cash lol".
And right now with people seeing what Damage Control really is, we can now tell Vulture wasn’t a villain but trying to make a living. Much like in the comics when Osbourne stole his flight gear technology.
They have a gal to mock Vulture and his men while giving them no compensations. According to the laws, taking over someone contract must come with compensations
1:18 He's drinking the same cup of coffee Peter got at the end of nwh
In reality though, wouldn't the government be obligated to compensate Toomes for the contract he had already signed with the city and for the resources he purchased to fulfill that contract?
Yes, Toomes would be compensated A LOT, probably would need monster law-suit for that, though. But it is USA; you can sue pretty much everyone for any reason whatsoever. I don't claim to know particularities of USA Legal system, so I only have conjecture and whatever info I absorbed over they years to prove that, however. You would need to ask sources your friend lawyer for that :P
Or, Tony catches whiff of situation early on, and promptly hires Toomes and his crew in Stark Industries; guy who figured this alien stuff out in R&D, and other people in divisions they fit in. Toomes maybe in HR, since he pretty much organized everything; found place to work, hired an additional crew, found shady contacts (again, HYDRA maybe, but World doesn't need HYDRA to be brutal place). Guy like that could be hired by pretty much every company, since everyone needs HR.
Anyway, using movie inside-info, since HYDRA is a gift that keeps on giving, they probably made sure this exact situation happened; they can use his inventions to their advantage, with added pros of sowing chaos everywhere said weapons go; in hands of low-lives, MOB people, terrorists, you pick your poison.
There, rant over. Love MARVEL movies, but they ain't very consistent in plot construction xD
He could have been scammed with a fake permit or straight up lied about having it.
There is no way the city would allow normal people anywhere near Alien tech just from the biohazard potential.
He’d probably need to sue unless there was something in the contract for a breech of contract. But hopefully he would. Which. Might help fund that criminal empire he built haha
It depends on the terms of the contract, but in reality, the government will do whatever the government damn well pleases. Consider the problem of eminent domain where a government can literally force you out of your own home and pay you a low ball price for your troubles (which they will claim is "fair market value"). Toomes could have pressed the issue, but it probably would have required years of litigation and tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees.
yes but it’s a marvel movie, don’t overthink it
I love how these videos refer to the characters by their actors' names, so we have jewels such as "Michael Keaton Becomes a Criminal" or "Jamie Lee Curtis Gets a Job at Dan Aykroyd's Funeral Parlor".
2:27 lol @ the dude on the far left with the gun.
Gotta say, I love Vulture's suit in this one a lot more than modern Marvel. It's clunky and realistic, like you can tell the wings are made of bits of metal instead of one seamless piece (which fits with the character), and when the wings need to come off, they come off. They don't just do the "fold behind the guy, no questions asked because nanotech" thing that I wasn't a huge fan of with Iron Man, and that I really hated with MODOK in Ant Man 3.
At least Tony made his own stuff and was a billionare, but some Humpty-Dumpty-looking guy just swooshes rocket launchers behind him, and they vanish. These were the good days.
I like when the movies and shows go back to old movies and show what other characters and average day people went thru , just like kate bishop watching hawkeye battle in the building
Once they figured out he was developing weapons with alien tech that could most likely combat other alien tech, I'm surprised the government didn't recruit him into an R&D defence program
sounds like his salvage company would have one hell of a lawsuit
I hope in future films they make more of scenes from the past like this like when Blade will be introduced, where is all the vampires he is fighting and stuff so maybe we will get a scene from the past explaining it would be cool
You mean backstories?
1:20 poor mans Tom Hardy.
This is the movie That Shows That Keaton can Still Be Batman
At 2:27 That is Batman don't do that man.
2:26 "Put him down."
Henchmen: *shoots*
Joker: "Very poor choice of words."
*roll credits*
She said, "Put 'em down."**
Guys takes one punch and everyone draws a handgun lol
Honestly when you think about it Tony didn't really create the Vulture, this woman did. Her ignorance and lack of any sense of compassion to even work out a deal is what caused him to turn.
2:13 that line got me mad! If he had a city contract, then getting the equipment is not a problem.
He got the equipment to do the job for the city and now the jobs gone so yes it’s a problem
@@AltShiftSpam I believe in real life if he had a contract with the city, they would have to pay for what they got to do the job. If the city does not make up for it, then he might have grounds for a lawsuit?
@@shawnevans26 He didn't get paid because the work wasn't finished, and he paid for the crew and equipment out of his own pocket, probably took a loan, and probably made a really lowball offer to get the case in the first place, but yes truthfully the lawsuit should go either to the city, or starks company, but lawsuits are won by the side that has more money, and take a really long time, so new money wouldn't come soon and he would be left with his debt. And if there was a new law introduced on the matter, you can't really argue with law. So anycase he would've gotten screwed, since apparently Stark didn't care about compensation. The big guys always screw the little guys.
@@AltShiftSpam yeah I guess you’re right.
3:26
The one that confuse me about this movie is the “8 years later”…
Like the battle of New York or simply the first Avengers movie canonically took place in 2012 and that means the event of Spider Man Homecoming takes place in 2020 which doesn’t make sense since he got snapped in 2018…
I can only assume that the battle of New York took place the same year as the first iron man movie which makes sense mathematically…
Or a typo
They changed it to 5 years I think
@andresponce-vazquez9158 They said it it's 5 years but Sony refuse to edit the title card for some odd reason.
that particular movie goes toe to toe with the original Spider Man. A really great great movie. everything flows
Seems like a good guy to work for. Doesn’t hesitate to stick his neck out for you, and stays put together when the going gets tough.
A man can and will do anything for his loved ones. That’s what makes him a man
“Things are never going to be the same again.”
World barely changes
(A few years later)
An entire country get dropped out of the sky destroying it
(Not long after)
Half of all life in the universe dies.
No, not much change at all.
@@KMcNally117 few years after that, a celestual nearly destroys earth rising out of the ocean.
Back in the day when marvel plot is "down to earth", not some far fetched multiversal plot with massive plot hole like these days
There how always been plot holes, but when the movie is entertaining enough we are mostly willing to let it go
This does not matter.
Folks in general don’t care and you shouldn’t either because at the end of the day, it’s a comic book movie.
It has enough for an entertaining ride and folks aren’t looking for a Marty Scorsese film level quality when they watch marvel movies.
Just escapism and a fun time.
Bro this movie literally starts with a massive plot hole 🤣🤣. People js be saying anything nowadays 😭
and still, the people bitched a plenty over this movie when came out... _"WhY MaRvEl kEEpS mAkInG StArK tHe CeNtEr oF uNiVerSe?"_
Same thing could be said about COD Zombies where everything was better when it was simple and down to earth. Once something introduces the multiverse and all that stuff things start to go way down.
At 2:47 Batman and Can't Get Right/Rev Cleon!!!!
Can we 100% day this is Tony’s fault?
Yes we can
@@aaronpablos760 because he is.
@Aaron Pablos Most of spiderman's are not because spiderman
Tony didn't make him steel alien tech, create weapons out of them, and sell it it gangs on the streets
@@skidward8325 neither do democrat politicians directly advocate for sterilizing children. they just produce the environment where it's heavily encouraged and even celebrated.
0:03 He's talking about Marvel's Phase 4
Keaton is such an amazing actor.
Michael Keaton is a true legend man. The Batman/Bruce Wayne/The Vulture!!!!
2:16 You never wanna hear him say this line 😆
Keaton made an excellent Supervillain and I can't wait to see him returning as Batman!
A short film about the Vulture coming into his own suit would be cool
2:49 I couldnt agree more on this statement.
I really appreciated how resourceful he was and of course why i was never on peter’s side.
Micheal keaton is so cool in every film he's in
Love how the title straight up says “Michael Keaton Becomes a Criminal”
Vulture is the coolest looking marvel villain imo
1:26 Adrian’s Oscorp Board Directors(MCU)
Absolutely love this scene
Keaton nailed it
My dad had a full collection of 60’s Spider-Man comics. Vulture was always my favorite next to chameleon! The one where he makes an EMP out of a radio is classic.
The small guy gets f***ed, but when that very small guy finally stands up for himself, he's called a villain
there's a marvel comics series about the Damage Control department that clean up the city after the superheroes and villains are done messing it up. It's a great series that was definitely the inspiration for a lot of the stuff here
He made one of the very best villains in the entire MCU.
Batman became a criminal
He wasn't a criminal. He just did what was right for him and his crew.
As a contractor, he would most likely have recourse with the city if their agreement was nullified. Dude could have sued, and gotten enough to recoup is startup costs and payed his guys. Probably would take a bit though
I would have sued if I were him.
Too bad this is the movie world where writers leave out important details. Like how it would actually save them money to subcontract Tombs and his crew. Any government contract world is a LOT of money and contractors could have control of how much based on their assessment of the project. The federal government literally writes blank checks for contact work. Tomb would be making money on this alien junk AND be motivation for him to get greedy.
man was just trying to provide
That "Tinkerer" could be a perfect MCU version of Doctor Octopus-slash-Master Planner.
Hell no man MCU could have his own doc ock hell ock is way iconic character that some of the marvel characters that got there own movie
"I used to draw cowboys and Indians"
... "Uhh akshually it's native Americans"
Which guy am I supposed to dislike here?
🤓
The actor that plays the sidekick is great in Severance.
Definitely one of the most underrated spider man movies imo. Love Keaton as Vulturr
You either die a get or live long enough see yourself become the villain
True fact
Adrian Toomes wasn't the bad guy here... he did some shady business but when the government screws you over... what're you supposed to do, let your family starve and go homeless? Fuck no.
He is a bad guy
@@Eljordinio7649blinded-yd5co Nah, morally gray maybe... even after going to jail he didn't give up who was Spiderman.
@@noahgraeme Nah, morally black not morally gray stupid maybe... even after going to jail he is still a criminal and also a murder kid. he isn't morally gray at all. sell weapons things is still wrong. Two wrongs don't make it right.
@@noahgraeme Nah, morally black maybe not morally gray stupid not maybe tho ... even after going to jail he is still a criminal and also a murder kid. he isn't morally gray at all. sell weapons things is still wrong. Two wrongs don't make it right. Boi.
Such a great movie
2:26 the way the guy on the lefts holding the gun is just fucking ridiculous lmaooo
That woman is the real villain in this movie. She stole the money that Tony owed this guy.
best villian buildup in mcu till today.
Nah that DEFINITELY goes to Thanos
I think one of the biggest reasons for the lack of interest in CBMs nowadays is that they focus way too much on the villains being gods and/or desiring world domination when the ones that are more realistic and have understandable motivations often stand the test of time like Keaton's Vulture has.
I'm really kind of interesting to see damage control in upcoming Armor Wars movie that sort of I'm excited to see Don cheadle back as war machine Play out also seen him upcoming secret invasion👈👍👏💯🙏
I love how they make them blue collar villains (vulture, shockers, Tinker) instead of Supervillains. After a night of villainous activities These guys either go home to their families, or just chillin in their apartment having a beer instead of a lair or an underground lab.
I rooted so hard for vulture. That’s what America is about. The guy working his ass off, gets screwed by the government and bends the law to take care of his family.
Vulture is a really likeable villain.
So a demolition crew just happens to have someone who knows how to modify alien material into useful weapons?
You’d be surprised what random coworkers can do
Trial and error eventually comes with a success
Tinker actually, he's called "The Tinkerer" and over 8 years you can experiment and learn a lot
Discovery requires experimentation.
Go research the dude who made an Armoured bulldozer and rampaged his home town...think he was just a simple welder!
There are no villains or heroes. Just people who trying to make sense of the world.....
the 8 years later mistake get’s me every time
How many years was it meant to be?
@@alessandroortiz3794 years
I know right!!! Everyone was still blipped in 2020!
The go-to guy for flying animal themed superpeople.
Alternate Good Ending: Adrian takes a few days to calm down and realizes how huge of a breach of contract it is and how tremendous an overstep it is for a semi-private quasi-governmental entity to just show up and take over things while he has an exclusive contract with the city. Adrian hires Matt Murdock to represent him and they sue everybody: the city, the Department of Damage Control, the mayor of NYC, hell, they even sue Tony Stark himself.
Matt Murdock being Matt Murdock, he kicks everyone's ass in court. The court case captures the attention of the nation and Adrian is seen as a national hero, the little man bravely holding his ground against big government and even bigger corporations. In order to avoid a prolonged legal battle and also to avoid any further damage to their individual reputations, all companies and persons involved decide to settle, making Adrian an instant multi-millionaire. Now that money is no longer an issue, Adrian retires to be with his family.
This is the best Spiderman Mcu villain.
That's still the coolest Vulture to date.