@Andy Tavary I agree completely. This scene scared the shit out of me as a kid, still does, especially that noise at 1:03 This is probably one of the most underrated ship sinking scenes in any movie IMO.
I saw this movie when it was released at the old Fox Theater in Fullerton, California. The theater was much the way it was when it was built in 1925. It was the perfect place to see such a movie.
You're lucky; the Fox Theatre in Fullerton closed before I ever had a chance to go there. I went to the theatres in La Puente, California before they were torn down.
I saw this in a one-screen cinema that opened in 1936, in the city where this movie was filmed (Toronto). It was my first time there, the kind that had statues by the screen. It’s still there marquee and all but it’s an event space now.
Alec’s father was a true hero; not only protecting his son, but trying to help strangers as well; putting his own needs aside for their safety/survival.
And after all that he somehow survived, became an inventor, purchased a Mogwai which multiplied (after being fed after midnight) and destroyed his hometown. Very unlucky man. 😂
One of the saddest moments ever is when Teri Garr says alone to the Black “I wish you could have saved his father too” but she knows the Black saved Alec’s life. It’s so low key beautiful.
4:35 - Thank you *The Black Stallion,* seeing this scene as a four year old is probably the reason why I’ve never gone on a cruise ship in my entire life.
Yeah, this, The Poseidon Adventure and 1994 Estonia ferry sinking in the Baltic Sea are why I get the creeps on ships. And yet I slept on over night ferries in Europe.
I just thought about that! I think it is how the scene is shoot from Alec’s/Blackie’s perspective. A young kid and/or a horse are not gonna be able to grasp the situation, so they dont know what is going on. It is pure chaos and terror and panic, and they are just pushed around or held down until they find a way out. Titanic meant to show show the grand scale of the tragedy, point out how many lost their lifes and what a massive ship the Titanic actually was. It is massive and the tragedy grips you, but it is impersonal. The Black Stallion’s goal was to show a shipwreck from the single pov of a kid and/or a horse, the sinking itself not as important as the cruelty, terror, and confusion of the individual experience. And it makes sense. Titanic had a lot of responsibility when depicting a real life catastrophe like that. They needed to kinda show jut how massive the even was, pay respect to each and every person who was there that say, and that could only be done by zooming way out and show the whole thing, interlaced with the more personal struggles of Rose and Jack. The Black Stallion depicts a fictional ship with fictional people, and it does not matter if most are just glanced over as living props for Alec to interact with. It is about him, and him only.
As a fellow siren enthusiast, If you all want to know why the ship’s horn sounds like that it’s because it’s a steam whistle and because of the water splashing onto the ship is muffled the sound because it was blocking the air flow or steam. It is sounding in the so called general emergency alarm tone 7 short 1 long blast. Once the fire started to blow out of the cowl vent at 3:32 the whistle was activated for out of control fire and to abandoned ship. You can tell the whistle is being muffled because on the the second cycle of the whistle at 4:11 it sounds muffled at the beginning but it gets louder at the end because it is blowing some of the water out of it due to the air pressure coming out of it. The final blast when Alec falls of the ship you can hear the actual sound which is 465 hz for a second.
@@downhomesunset, dude lowkey. My biggest fear is ship's propellers. Not heights, not deep water, not cramped spaces, not bugs, not snakes, not aliens or ghosts, or whatever. This scene germinated that fear when I was 9.
This scene seriously scared the crap out of me as a kid. Looking at the comments, I guess Im not alone! I still cant watch it. It the source of my submechanophobia.
I saw this movie once when I was 9, 16 years ago, and it stuck with me for quite a while, especially this scene. I eventually forgot about it, but years later, when I watched Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade for the first time, during the climax of the boat chase scene I lowkey had a mini panic attack. For whatever reason, that scene in that movie will always be more terrifying to me than the "He chose poorly" scene. This scene was that reason. Now that I'm older, now. I can definitely appreciate the terror and the genius that went into shooting this scene.
I was 5 years old when my mom took my sister (7) and me to see this movie. I was so terrified of this scene that I had to hide under my mom's jacket. I don't know how this movie could have been rated G and appropriate for kids of all ages.
I first saw this movie when I was 9, about 16 years ago, and even though I haven't seen it since, which is a crime, because I remember much of it being really good, the scene that was burned into my mind was this one. God, that ship's propeller slowly turning and creaking... It's like something straight out of a Steven King novel. This movie is responsible for installing my fear of "submechanophobia" as it's apparently called, which I still hold to this day. Also, I thought that I was just weird for having this fear, but apparently I'm not the only one, judging from the comments section on this video. Again, also, the cobra scene really freaked me out as a kid, but this scene was way more memorable. Edit: when I watched Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade for the first time, during that one scene (if you know, you know) I kinda freaked out. Don't know why, because it wasn't even portrayed as underwater, but I guess the seeds of terror sewn by this movie finally germinated.
I can't believe my parents let me watch this when i was 5. As a side note, I've figured out why this ship horn sounded so haunting and mournful. Its actually a giant steam whistle. Not a horn. Ships had steam whistles back then.
Hi, there, movies are fake. I saw fire on the ocean too, so my sense of logic tells me the ship hit reef, or rocks, or some other hard object which tore its fuel tank open, and either lightning, and or electricity, and or some other heat source set the fuel on fire.
In other videos, I saw the last name "Drake" on this ship. People name ships after privateers and sailors. I wrote, "privateers" instead of "pirates" because I'm not supposed to write ill about the dead.
It's also odd how, very often, the movie is so much different than the book. In the book, the ship is struck by lightning towards the end of the storm, and according to the author, "seemed almost cut in half" by the lightning strike. In the movie, there's a huge fire on board during the entirety of the storm, but no lightning. The book makes no mention of a massive fire on the ship. It's also different in how, in the book, long before Alec falls into the ocean, the ship is not moving with it's engines dead. But in the movie after Alec falls overboard, the ship's propeller is still rotating even as the ship sinks by the bow.
Well if lighting did strike it, it would very likely cause a fire, plus I’m pretty sure the engine is just about dead considering how the propeller is barely moving, not nearly enough speed to keep the ship moving.
Thats because while in a book written from a kids pov, it makes sense that he would believe a bolt cut the ship in half. He saw a storm, heard and saw close thunder/lightning, and the ship started to sink. He might even have read about the titanic and how that ship broke in half, causing false memories. In a kivie however where we experience a much more unbiased version of events, the idea of a ship being split in half because of a lightning strike is not just impossible, but would also cause for a very unrealistic and silly moment during a scene meant to be scary with its raw realism.
At 5:24 you see the Black get dragged under the water-one of the ropes got caught in the propeller. They cut the scene where Alec frees him and gets to the island by tying a rope to himself……..
Those huge waves were sure throwing massive amounts of water over that deck. It's odd how that much water washing over the decks couldn't have extinguished the fire on board.
The ship is burning internally, and the flames are probably so hot, strong, and fueled that what water manages to get inside will just evaporate or boil. Just like how people have died in subs due to explosions and fires that only gone out after a hole was made in the outer layers. This ship is not actually sinking, it is burning, and at the end you can even hear the final explosion that finally opened up the ship to be flooded.
Since it was just a move, they could have also made the dad catch his son and his poker winnings and fly off the boat and to their destination like Superman.
I truly do hope the stunt-horses were okay after this shit. It is a cool scene, I love it, but knowing how shitty Hollywood is to their animal actors TODAY, I cant help but fear thy would actually allow a horse to almost drown just to get a good shot...
It seems to me like the water on the soundstage is not very deep. Horses don't swim very well at all, and can barely keep their noses above the surface. This scene looks a lot like the water maybe comes up to the horse's neck, so the horse has to work to move through it, but is never in danger of drowning.
Maximilian-the horse that plays the Black-Cass Olé-is a champion Arabian stallion. They’re not going to put him at risk. His stunt double-Hollywood Dun It- is a well trained Quarter Horse who has been in many films.
This is like the tornado in wizard of oz. Just some low key absolute terror in an otherwise kid friendly friendship film
I was 7 years old and this scene stuck in my head especially the horn blaring over and over again.
Agreed. Thats why i keep coming back to this lmao
Childhood core memory for everyone so weird
Yep.. absolute horror!
Can't believe my parents let me watch this. Alone.
That ship's horn is the sound of utter doom.
For a film that's not even a horror movie, this scene is terrifying.
@Andy Tavary I agree completely. This scene scared the shit out of me as a kid, still does, especially that noise at 1:03
This is probably one of the most underrated ship sinking scenes in any movie IMO.
The first 30 minutes of this movie is terrifying.
I’m terrified of the ocean so this is like a nightmare for me
Francis Ford Coppola. It’s disturbing like the godfather
Yeah
I saw this movie when it was released at the old Fox Theater in Fullerton, California. The theater was much the way it was when it was built in 1925. It was the perfect place to see such a movie.
You're lucky; the Fox Theatre in Fullerton closed before I ever had a chance to go there. I went to the theatres in La Puente, California before they were torn down.
I saw this in a one-screen cinema that opened in 1936, in the city where this movie was filmed (Toronto). It was my first time there, the kind that had statues by the screen. It’s still there marquee and all but it’s an event space now.
Alec’s father was a true hero; not only protecting his son, but trying to help strangers as well; putting his own needs aside for their safety/survival.
And after all that he somehow survived, became an inventor, purchased a Mogwai which multiplied (after being fed after midnight) and destroyed his hometown. Very unlucky man. 😂
All while being a successful country singer
@@mycalmills3210 and inventor of the bathroom buddy!
@@CelticHighlandr Yep
I'm glad you like him; I thought he was stuck up.
Remember this scene from 17 years ago. Crazy
Terrifying scene, but this scene shows what can be done without CGI.
With great difficulty
One of the saddest moments ever is when Teri Garr says alone to the Black “I wish you could have saved his father too” but she knows the Black saved Alec’s life. It’s so low key beautiful.
4:35 - Thank you *The Black Stallion,* seeing this scene as a four year old is probably the reason why I’ve never gone on a cruise ship in my entire life.
Yeah, this, The Poseidon Adventure and 1994 Estonia ferry sinking in the Baltic Sea are why I get the creeps on ships. And yet I slept on over night ferries in Europe.
For some reason, this sinking scene makes me more uncomfortable than the sinking scene from Titanic
I just thought about that! I think it is how the scene is shoot from Alec’s/Blackie’s perspective.
A young kid and/or a horse are not gonna be able to grasp the situation, so they dont know what is going on. It is pure chaos and terror and panic, and they are just pushed around or held down until they find a way out.
Titanic meant to show show the grand scale of the tragedy, point out how many lost their lifes and what a massive ship the Titanic actually was. It is massive and the tragedy grips you, but it is impersonal.
The Black Stallion’s goal was to show a shipwreck from the single pov of a kid and/or a horse, the sinking itself not as important as the cruelty, terror, and confusion of the individual experience.
And it makes sense. Titanic had a lot of responsibility when depicting a real life catastrophe like that. They needed to kinda show jut how massive the even was, pay respect to each and every person who was there that say, and that could only be done by zooming way out and show the whole thing, interlaced with the more personal struggles of Rose and Jack.
The Black Stallion depicts a fictional ship with fictional people, and it does not matter if most are just glanced over as living props for Alec to interact with. It is about him, and him only.
Probably because the Titanic wasn’t also on fire as it was sinking
As a fellow siren enthusiast, If you all want to know why the ship’s horn sounds like that it’s because it’s a steam whistle and because of the water splashing onto the ship is muffled the sound because it was blocking the air flow or steam. It is sounding in the so called general emergency alarm tone 7 short 1 long blast. Once the fire started to blow out of the cowl vent at 3:32 the whistle was activated for out of control fire and to abandoned ship. You can tell the whistle is being muffled because on the the second cycle of the whistle at 4:11 it sounds muffled at the beginning but it gets louder at the end because it is blowing some of the water out of it due to the air pressure coming out of it. The final blast when Alec falls of the ship you can hear the actual sound which is 465 hz for a second.
i was watching it like a six years old and now i watched it after years and found out why i’m terrified of deep water, boats, fire...
So am I! First time W had to go on a ferry it was about the same size with a propeller that looked the same. I was horrified!
@@downhomesunset, dude lowkey. My biggest fear is ship's propellers. Not heights, not deep water, not cramped spaces, not bugs, not snakes, not aliens or ghosts, or whatever. This scene germinated that fear when I was 9.
Terrifying yet wonderful film
I remember this scene, it was pretty scary
This whole scene is a mix between "The Poseidon Adventure" and "The Towering Inferno".
Towering is a great movie too.
Oh don’t get me started I was a 70s kid and all these movies have horrifying scenes in them 😳
This scene seriously scared the crap out of me as a kid. Looking at the comments, I guess Im not alone! I still cant watch it. It the source of my submechanophobia.
I saw this movie once when I was 9, 16 years ago, and it stuck with me for quite a while, especially this scene. I eventually forgot about it, but years later, when I watched Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade for the first time, during the climax of the boat chase scene I lowkey had a mini panic attack. For whatever reason, that scene in that movie will always be more terrifying to me than the "He chose poorly" scene. This scene was that reason. Now that I'm older, now. I can definitely appreciate the terror and the genius that went into shooting this scene.
Now I have to watch that of course again and double up on the mental scarring.Icebergs freak me out too,
I guess all those life saving lessons at school in the 1970's wearing pyjamas was good for something at least.
I was 5 years old when my mom took my sister (7) and me to see this movie. I was so terrified of this scene that I had to hide under my mom's jacket. I don't know how this movie could have been rated G and appropriate for kids of all ages.
That middle eastern guy was a real hot head.
The scene terrified me as a toddler
I’m 19 and I’m STILL terrified lmao
This, the ballroom flood from the Poseidon Adventure, and the death of Krypton from Superman all horrified me as a kid!
Had a dream that amplified this scene recently, sort of a nightmare lol…
3:37 Alec's dad: Burn, you idiot!
LOL 😂
I first saw this movie when I was 9, about 16 years ago, and even though I haven't seen it since, which is a crime, because I remember much of it being really good, the scene that was burned into my mind was this one.
God, that ship's propeller slowly turning and creaking... It's like something straight out of a Steven King novel. This movie is responsible for installing my fear of "submechanophobia" as it's apparently called, which I still hold to this day.
Also, I thought that I was just weird for having this fear, but apparently I'm not the only one, judging from the comments section on this video.
Again, also, the cobra scene really freaked me out as a kid, but this scene was way more memorable.
Edit: when I watched Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade for the first time, during that one scene (if you know, you know) I kinda freaked out. Don't know why, because it wasn't even portrayed as underwater, but I guess the seeds of terror sewn by this movie finally germinated.
this scene traumatized the heck out of me as a little kid
I can't believe my parents let me watch this when i was 5.
As a side note, I've figured out why this ship horn sounded so haunting and mournful.
Its actually a giant steam whistle. Not a horn.
Ships had steam whistles back then.
That sound creeped me out. I was 9 when this film came out so about the same age as Alec
Alec Ramsey: “My word, this sinking ship in a storm is so chaotic!”
My community has a Ramsey family, but it also has a Ramsay family. Both families pronounce their last names, "Ram Zee."
I think Alec’s dad defended him by putting his bully in the fire. I couldn’t tell because it was so dark.
You're right
That’s one of the guys that stole the Black. Has no qualms about stealing a kids life vest from him either!
I remember being kind of horrified by that moment. Then again, we grew up in the era of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
i read the book when i was a kid, if i remember right the ship was hit by lightning
Hmm interesting to know.
A few things: 1. I am surprised no one came up wake up the passengers about the ship on fire. 2. Where were there not any life boats?
Lifeboats probably burned
@@simondoesstuff5881They are probably there-we just don’t see them!
This scene traumatized me as a kid. 😑
Holy titanic
How did the ship catch fire
Hi, there, movies are fake. I saw fire on the ocean too, so my sense of logic tells me the ship hit reef, or rocks, or some other hard object which tore its fuel tank open, and either lightning, and or electricity, and or some other heat source set the fuel on fire.
Alec and the black stallion go overboard. They find a nearby island. The ship is on fire and it gets destroyed.
The track The Sinking by James Horner would go great for this scene
No part of what makes this film great is the lack of an overbearing score pretty much the whole way through
I think what makes this scene scarier is the fact that there is no music, just the chaos and terror of a doomed ship sinking fast.
I wouldn't blame the horse at all for jumping ship I'd do the same thing that ships horn is terrifying!
It looks like the Laconia
In other videos, I saw the last name "Drake" on this ship. People name ships after privateers and sailors. I wrote, "privateers" instead of "pirates" because I'm not supposed to write ill about the dead.
Not the navigator Sir Francis Drake?
@@user-ve5ln5le9y Yes, the one and only.
It's also odd how, very often, the movie is so much different than the book. In the book, the ship is struck by lightning towards the end of the storm, and according to the author, "seemed almost cut in half" by the lightning strike. In the movie, there's a huge fire on board during the entirety of the storm, but no lightning. The book makes no mention of a massive fire on the ship.
It's also different in how, in the book, long before Alec falls into the ocean, the ship is not moving with it's engines dead. But in the movie after Alec falls overboard, the ship's propeller is still rotating even as the ship sinks by the bow.
Well if lighting did strike it, it would very likely cause a fire, plus I’m pretty sure the engine is just about dead considering how the propeller is barely moving, not nearly enough speed to keep the ship moving.
They never mentioned how the fire started. The sad thing is Alec loses his father.
Thats because while in a book written from a kids pov, it makes sense that he would believe a bolt cut the ship in half. He saw a storm, heard and saw close thunder/lightning, and the ship started to sink. He might even have read about the titanic and how that ship broke in half, causing false memories.
In a kivie however where we experience a much more unbiased version of events, the idea of a ship being split in half because of a lightning strike is not just impossible, but would also cause for a very unrealistic and silly moment during a scene meant to be scary with its raw realism.
At 5:24 you see the Black get dragged under the water-one of the ropes got caught in the propeller. They cut the scene where Alec frees him and gets to the island by tying a rope to himself……..
Those huge waves were sure throwing massive amounts of water over that deck. It's odd how that much water washing over the decks couldn't have extinguished the fire on board.
It's almost like it's a fictional movie and not a documentary...
well Considering the fact that the Drake looks like one of those Liberty Ships, i would assume that something caused something in the ship to ignite
i would assume the ship is an Oil Burner
The ship is burning internally, and the flames are probably so hot, strong, and fueled that what water manages to get inside will just evaporate or boil. Just like how people have died in subs due to explosions and fires that only gone out after a hole was made in the outer layers.
This ship is not actually sinking, it is burning, and at the end you can even hear the final explosion that finally opened up the ship to be flooded.
Since it was just a move, they could have also made the dad catch his son and his poker winnings and fly off the boat and to their destination like Superman.
2014
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I truly do hope the stunt-horses were okay after this shit. It is a cool scene, I love it, but knowing how shitty Hollywood is to their animal actors TODAY, I cant help but fear thy would actually allow a horse to almost drown just to get a good shot...
It seems to me like the water on the soundstage is not very deep. Horses don't swim very well at all, and can barely keep their noses above the surface. This scene looks a lot like the water maybe comes up to the horse's neck, so the horse has to work to move through it, but is never in danger of drowning.
Maximilian-the horse that plays the Black-Cass Olé-is a champion Arabian stallion. They’re not going to put him at risk. His stunt double-Hollywood Dun It- is a well trained Quarter Horse who has been in many films.
@@annehaight9963 I get what you are saying, but:
1. You don’t need much water to drown.
2. Horses are good swimmers.
It’s Reminds Me Of Titanic
Except this is way more terrifying
More like ”The Poseidon Adventure”.
And no CGI just like Poseidon. God bless 70s classics