I hope more manufacturers can bring out battery powered all-in-ones. Laptops sacrifice ergonomics for portability. While desktops anchor you to a single spot. Even moving a traditional AIO within the same room isn't something that can be done on a whim or one handed.
Not to mention, you can clock higher because you're less concerned with thermals. There are still laptop parts in these, but you can clock higher safely.
My dream machine. I was thinking of a big portable TV. This makes it even better. With this I can bring it to the kitchen.etc. Talk about portable. TV don't have battery built-in. This portable monitor PC is super nice, we can game on it, my game BF4, Torchlight 2, Grim Dawn, MapleStory
Lon, thanks for the review! I really like this concept. One thought: although some consider them obsolete, I wonder if this would boot off an external CD or DVD drive? I had a netbook that preferred booting from optical media.
I've always thought that an all-in-one with a built-in battery would be excellent for the enterprise market. That way they don't need to invest in a separate UPS battery or UPS connected power circuit.
It is an interesting concept. Don't think I personally have a use case for it, but I picture it being a great option for business going to trade shows because you have the portability of a laptop, with the screen real estate of a full desktop computer.
This is actually a cool AIO. A portable AIO is something I'd never even thought about. Maybe next iteration they can use a more powerful CPUs like the Core Ultra series or Ryzen 7940HS for extra CPU/GPU power. Otherwise, this looks like a good AIO.
I have to say, I like what I see. I think if I could afford one top of the line I would buy it for my mother or perhaps even as my second PC. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, I actually suggested something very similar to this to HP years ago. I observed that so many people were putting laptops on their kitchen counters (exposing them to near-guaranteed damage) and I thought that a large form factor like this (with stowable keyboard and mouse, but maybe a touch smaller to fit under cabinets) would be a far more ideal solution. But there are many other use cases for this too.
That has to be the largest tablet PC I've seen. When used as a monitor, how well does the touch interface work with other computers? If only there was an AMD Ryzen version of it. How fast is the CPU? How fast is the iGPU? How fast is the USB-C port? How fast is the USB Type-A port? What is the maximum resolution of the display? What is the maximum resolution supported by the HDMI input? What is the maximum resolution supported by each of the USB ports for input and output? What type of storage does it support internally? How much power does the computer draw under idle, average use, totally stressed? What are the maximum viewing angles? What type of video display is it?
This gets many things right! For example the battery so its portable and the hdmi input and allowing display usage while having the internal pc is off and also the touchscreen. But it also got some minor things wrong like using intel instead of amd phoenix point or better. Knitpicks too are lack of more usb ports, hdmi out port or audio output. Users of this AIO will heavy rely on usb type c multi dock that supports features that are omitted.
I love my i5 4th gen aio hp touch... I upgrade it to wifi 6e, 32gb, and a 2tb ssd. I now run my plex server on it and let my kids use it for family room internet browsing. I was looking at a 2nd one. Unfortunately, this one seems like a step back with less usb, no audio out, and no way to upgrade ram. Do you know if wifi is pcie or onboard?
Does the display mode also allow sound to be put through the built in speakers? I noticed there was no sound when you hooked up the Genesis classic. I would buy one so I didn't always have to use my headset when I wanted to play games on my Xbox series x
How much is the charger wattage? Does it use the standard HP barrel plug? Thinking of using it with a 60 or 100w power bank and usb c to barrel adapters that work well with older laptops using barrel plugs.
So what is their hook for a monthly revenue stream? I would strongly recommend to anyone NOT to purchase HP consumer products. HP was and still maybe the best of the best in scientific and electronic test equipment. Their move to the commodity consumer computer market was a huge mistake. Their printer will suck your wallet dry and their computers have limited or no upgradability. I laughed when your tried to boot linux on it. I have done a few HPs with dual boot linux / windows that are not strait forward to startup. Crappy BIOS.
@@LonSeidmanyeah I'm with Lon on this one, it's more likely a bug, I don't think HP, which is very cognizant of Linux and Linux support for their hardware and their customers is purposely doing something malicious here.
I hope more manufacturers can bring out battery powered all-in-ones. Laptops sacrifice ergonomics for portability. While desktops anchor you to a single spot. Even moving a traditional AIO within the same room isn't something that can be done on a whim or one handed.
Not to mention, you can clock higher because you're less concerned with thermals. There are still laptop parts in these, but you can clock higher safely.
Given the explosion of AMD Z1 Extreme all in ones/handhelds, it's only a matter of time
Very nice industrial design. The "automatic feet" feature is very cool. Thanks for the review.
My dream machine. I was thinking of a big portable TV. This makes it even better. With this I can bring it to the kitchen.etc. Talk about portable. TV don't have battery built-in. This portable monitor PC is super nice, we can game on it, my game BF4, Torchlight 2, Grim Dawn, MapleStory
Awesome review on this HP machine, Lon!
Never been a fan of all in ones but this does seem handy. Pretty cool!
Yeah this one is a pretty neat concept - nice to see something different!
Reminds me of older iMacs that had the option to be used as monitors when the internal components became obsolete.
I love the idea of hooking up an egpu and inputing it to the hdmi
Cool! Finally a "laptop" large enough to see!
Lon, thanks for the review! I really like this concept.
One thought: although some consider them obsolete, I wonder if this would boot off an external CD or DVD drive? I had a netbook that preferred booting from optical media.
I think most pc’s will off of a usb cd drive and a properly formatted disc
(Looks at the back) No VESA mount. Interesting.
The lack of RAM upgradability is a no-sale for me. On a device that large it's criminal that they couldn't find space for some RAM slots.
I've always thought that an all-in-one with a built-in battery would be excellent for the enterprise market.
That way they don't need to invest in a separate UPS battery or UPS connected power circuit.
Great alternative to a laptop.. Most laptops never leave the home..
But I wish ram was upgradable... At least one slot..
It is an interesting concept. Don't think I personally have a use case for it, but I picture it being a great option for business going to trade shows because you have the portability of a laptop, with the screen real estate of a full desktop computer.
This is actually a cool AIO. A portable AIO is something I'd never even thought about. Maybe next iteration they can use a more powerful CPUs like the Core Ultra series or Ryzen 7940HS for extra CPU/GPU power. Otherwise, this looks like a good AIO.
I have to say, I like what I see. I think if I could afford one top of the line I would buy it for my mother or perhaps even as my second PC. Thanks for sharing.
Interesting for someone like me who usually works at the kitchen table, but the specs aren't great.
That's pretty nifty how the legs swing out automatically like that.
Finally something innovative
It looks a really nice and should be an awesome laptop replacement if you are not going with it outside.
Yes, I actually suggested something very similar to this to HP years ago. I observed that so many people were putting laptops on their kitchen counters (exposing them to near-guaranteed damage) and I thought that a large form factor like this (with stowable keyboard and mouse, but maybe a touch smaller to fit under cabinets) would be a far more ideal solution. But there are many other use cases for this too.
@@CaptainCaveman1170 Let's wish them a success, and we can see similar solutions from other companies.
That has to be the largest tablet PC I've seen. When used as a monitor, how well does the touch interface work with other computers? If only there was an AMD Ryzen version of it.
How fast is the CPU?
How fast is the iGPU?
How fast is the USB-C port?
How fast is the USB Type-A port?
What is the maximum resolution of the display?
What is the maximum resolution supported by the HDMI input?
What is the maximum resolution supported by each of the USB ports for input and output?
What type of storage does it support internally?
How much power does the computer draw under idle, average use, totally stressed?
What are the maximum viewing angles?
What type of video display is it?
This gets many things right! For example the battery so its portable and the hdmi input and allowing display usage while having the internal pc is off and also the touchscreen. But it also got some minor things wrong like using intel instead of amd phoenix point or better. Knitpicks too are lack of more usb ports, hdmi out port or audio output. Users of this AIO will heavy rely on usb type c multi dock that supports features that are omitted.
can you use it as an external monitor with the USBc input?
As a repair shop employee, I see horror and pain. Quoting $250 for just the part screen replacements that people reject 9/10 times
I was annoyed they only do an 8 gb and 16 gb option... not a 16 gb and 32 gb option. I'm not sure why they skimp on on-board ram.
It’s a low end, low spec machine for basic productivity workflows. Even 16GB is overkill.
I love my i5 4th gen aio hp touch... I upgrade it to wifi 6e, 32gb, and a 2tb ssd. I now run my plex server on it and let my kids use it for family room internet browsing. I was looking at a 2nd one. Unfortunately, this one seems like a step back with less usb, no audio out, and no way to upgrade ram. Do you know if wifi is pcie or onboard?
Does the display mode also allow sound to be put through the built in speakers? I noticed there was no sound when you hooked up the Genesis classic. I would buy one so I didn't always have to use my headset when I wanted to play games on my Xbox series x
Yes it'll pass through the HDMI
Hello, I heard you can't install a Linux operating system on this computer, is that correct?
Is there a case or cover for it while traveling?
How much is the charger wattage? Does it use the standard HP barrel plug? Thinking of using it with a 60 or 100w power bank and usb c to barrel adapters that work well with older laptops using barrel plugs.
It has a 90 watt charger - must need that much to charge and power the computer and display simultaneously.
@LonSeidman Thanks. So in theory a 100w PD charger should work with the right adapter
Is it dual voltage or 120V ?
If you connect a Mac mini to the HDMI also works as a monitor?
Yes
@@LonSeidman wow! The best idea I've ever seen, this device, I don't know if you said it in the group, but you know how long the battery lasts,?
thanks for always checking linux support.
CAN IT RUN CRISIS REMASTERED 😅😅
good Idea but not sure it will meet my gaming needs.
You choose to connect a Sega Genesis into the HP Envy Move? That's somehow... Cool...
A smaller one would be perfect for the kitchen.
Disable secure boot if linux doesn’t boot
Cheesy old school push button thin plastic feet. Epic Fail.
So what is their hook for a monthly revenue stream? I would strongly recommend to anyone NOT to purchase HP consumer products. HP was and still maybe the best of the best in scientific and electronic test equipment. Their move to the commodity consumer computer market was a huge mistake. Their printer will suck your wallet dry and their computers have limited or no upgradability. I laughed when your tried to boot linux on it. I have done a few HPs with dual boot linux / windows that are not strait forward to startup. Crappy BIOS.
NEVER buy any HP garbage.
2:25 kangaroo engineering
So it's the gamecube. But not.
Locked on M$ OS? Once again HP attacking consumers and bricking their own products
Most HPs are not locked to Windows - I suspect this just needs an update to allow booting off the USB.
A lot of hp stuff like this has no storage driver support for Linux, which prevents instalation.
@@LonSeidmanyeah I'm with Lon on this one, it's more likely a bug, I don't think HP, which is very cognizant of Linux and Linux support for their hardware and their customers is purposely doing something malicious here.
Ridiculous, this looks so old and childish.
Needs an elmo ilustration in screen back.
Reminds me of older iMacs that had the option to be used as monitors when the internal components became obsolete.