I love when my favourite cars depreciate and I would not give a shit even if I owned one cause one thing I won't by my favourite cars for is to sell them later .No I hope the Honda nsx isn't noticed how good by everyone and get hyped so one day I can afford one
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You got this spot on! I got a 2015 F-Type R for 46K 1 year ago. The one thing that was not noted is what I think will make the 2015 F-Type R worth more in the future and that is the 2015 F-Type R is the only year the it is a true GT Grand Turing because it is RWD. All other years going into the future are Sport cars. If you are a collector you understand why this is a big deal. The E-Type is where this car comes from so projector headlights and analog tachometer and speedometer makes it a true successor as intended by the designer Ian Callum.
In my point of view it’s a great investment for the future. This car will be worth lots of money. The F Type will be an icon for Jaguar replacing the E Type
@@Anonymous-qj3ry I have to agree with you, perhaps the iconic status of the F type would be easier on its depreciation in the long run though? Any thoughts?
I found this video because I am actively looking for an F Type, and I couldn't be happier. I'm convinced that you just saved me money, and encouraged me that it's worth it to me to go for the R, or even V8S, over the S, especially with the earlier model years. Many thanks!
All I can say is wow! In a good way! I have been studying used car prices for years. And just from osmosis I can give you this same speech about used BMWs. I’ve never seen this kind of data driven in-depth analysis before. And I love it. I only recently got bitten by the jaguar F type R bug. I came to the exact same conclusions you did, by reading every single listing for every car I can find. You need to go as old as you can possibly with the model year and keep the miles low. The higher miles older cars are far too expensive. And there’s no reason to pay extra for 2017or 2018 and if you want that facelift, then, the 2018. And if that’s the case stay the hell away from 2019 (at this point, its august 2020). To see you back this up with data, is very vindicating. Thank you
Entertained2036 it’s purchased and I’ll keep it forever! Adding forged wheels this winter to shed some rotating weight. Whoever own an R or SVR don’t ever sell it
@@anthonydavila2224 they are both fun to drive. Both drive fast, good pull on acceleration and have great sound. But if you want the most power and pull, the V8 will be that choice.
I just bought a 2015 RWD Type R with 25,890 mi for $50,000. West coast car USA no rust. Hard to find, bust best deal ever. This is a great buyers guide.
Your analyses is excellent. Many emotional factors influence choosing the car of your dreams. But one thing is clear, it's unwise to swim against the tide when it comes to knowing what market prices are doing. I've been looking for a Jag F-Type R in the 2015 - 2017 range and your analysis is very helpful and confirms my belief the F-Type R is fast becoming one of the best value buys around because of its massive depreciation. A depreciation analysis showing Horse Power per dollar would put it way near the top!!!
Interesting analysis. And it makes me feel better about my decision to buy my 2015 F-type R RWD with only 16,956 miles. Not that it doesn't depreciate, but hopefully it has leveled off a bit.
All good news for used F-Type buyers. I got my used F-Type "R" from a reputable dealer for 65% of new price with 4k miles on it. Hope to drive it 17 years like I did my last two cars. Not sure if I'll make it since I already have 62k miles on it after only 4 years. This car is just too much fun to drive.
Hi Fourwheel Trader I enjoy your videos Great information I bought a 2016 with 20K F Type R AWD in mint condition during lockdown March 2020 Incredible car to drive Lots of stares when I drive by since very few around My advice is to buy the best one you can afford that has been well maintained and has a good service history Love the Jag
I love the depreciation of Jags bec I always buy cars 2-5 yrs old. My Jag XJ12 and XK8 were bought for less than half the list and I drove them for years and enjoyed them. I would never buy a new European car for this reason
The F-type is quite possibly the best car you can get for the money if you're looking for a sports car I just purchased a 2014 V8 S with 50,000 miles on it mint condition lots of upgrades all for only $30,000
my complaint about your graphs is that they go according to dealer price starting and not from MSRP. Just like that saying "As soon as you drive a new car of the lot it loses XXXXX value" Which isnt a very good saying. As soon as you drive a new car off the lot you lose the "upcharge" that the dealership put on the MSRP. Your car just immediately becomes worth actual MSRP when you drive it off the lot. So the true depreciation is according to MSRP and not what the dealer sold it for. The F Type R unfortunately was highly sought after and was a 500+ hp car that got a huge chunk of dealer price upcharge slapped on top of it. If you could legally buy directly from the dealer that problem would disappear. Otherwise appreciate the research and nice work sir!
I purchased my 2015 F-Type from Carmax. The car, along with a no-deuctible five year warranty, was 50% of the original purchase price in 2018. Buying a new F-Type is crazy. Buying a used F-Type makes great sense. I love the car and it was cheap enough to be my daily driver.
Great analysis and consistent with the pricing I’m seeing in the market. Did you look at any depreciation difference across the three engine types? Interested to learn how the market feels about the different engines.
Really good job explaining! I definitely know a vehicle that is almost twice as worse in depreciation. I would love to see this same type of thing done for the Maserati Quattroporte GTS, dating back to the same years as you did for the Jaguar F-Type R...
We’ve been looking for an S or V8 coupe for a month. Looking for 18-22k miles. Frankly I was shocked to learn that 2016-2018 Fs were still 38-44k cars.
It is interesting, because I was in the market for an F-Type R in Oct 2019. I ended up with a 2016 AWD with 7200 miles. The original sticker price was $109,000. I got it certified used from Jaguar in Dec 2019, for $59,000. By his formula 3 years of depreciation would be $45.4k ($25k, $11.4k, $9k), and an additional $8157.60 for mileage. From sticker $109,000 - $53,556 = $55,444. No listed F-Type Rs (with ZERO CarFax incidents), were quite in that price range at the time. For a super clean, very low mileage car. The per year depreciation should be a little bit less; and the per mile depreciation should be a bit MORE than he quotes. IMHO. Also, certified used, from Jaguar is worth $2000+. I took mine into the dealer for what I thought was a blown speaker, and it was covered under warranty. Something to keep in mind.
Congrats with your ftype and thanks for the comment! When calculating the depreciation numbers it is not necessary to add the depreciation per 1000 miles to the depreciation per year. This affect is namely implicitly already incorporated in the depreciation per year. That is, as long as the increase in mileage is in line with the average increase between the model years. If the increase in mileage is higher than the average the depreciation per year increases.
Thanks that was great, I really want a’16 R and, wish you had gone a little bit further into the future price. When does it get close to flat line aka the bottom, it sounds like it might hit that sooner. ? Most cars I buy at about 10 years when they hit there lowest but before they increase in value. I’m driving a Boxster S 2006 that cost me $20k but it does have 100k miles and did have to spend money to get it squared away.
It don't matter anymore as you now get to re-calibrate a new depreciation projection from 2020 going forward. After the economic mayhem due to Covid-19 I am quite sure the usual purchasing power will drop at least 50+ %, and with so many people not able to meet their financial commitment, I am sure there will be a surge of second hand car market .
I REALLY want a used Aston Martin (with the V12 engine) but the Jag F-type is almost half the new sticker price. Can you convince me that a used F-type is superior to a used Aston Martin? Great video 👍 thanks.
Yes. I own a 2014 Evora S I bought as second owner. First owner had it for 1 year. I have owned for 2 years. (It was on dealer showrooms for a long time when new and a long time when I bought it used from the dealer). Great car and does not seem to have depreciated much in past two years compared to my purchase price. Now I am looking at either Evora 400 or Evora GT. I’m curious if I buy new how much depreciation will it have or if I should wait a bit longer and find a slightly used one. FYI in the US the first model was Evora, they added Evora S (supercharged) and 2014 was last year in US market for Evora until 2017 the Evora 400 was introduced (no 2015 or 2016 Evora in the US). Finally the Evora GT was just introduced to US market for 2020 model year (but on sale now for several months). I like the new GT but am trying to understand what the depreciation will be per year for the car. I really enjoy your videos they are very well done. Thanks
I take it these prices are based on the American market & will be different in other countries based on supply & demand of course. I always thought that many cars can lose up to 20% of their value as soon as you drive them out of the showroom & as a general rule most cars are only worth half the new price after 3 years , so by comparison , i guess the F-Type is not doing too badly lol ! . So to sum up this Jag is an absolute bargain as a used purchase !.
The numbers are indeed based on the US market. In general, the market dynamics for the big car markets around the globe tend to be rather similair. The absolute numbers, however, will different.
I'm so excited about this news, I saw a used F-type R for 45k with 40k miles. Hopefully it goes down more by Christmas time because that's when I plan on trading in my current car for a new one
JD if you shop around you'll find them for a few thousand less than 45k between 30-60k miles. Just have patience and be ready to pull the trigger when you find one. You might have to travel to pick it up, but it's worth it to own such a cool car. It's definitely not a great investment, but if you get it for a great deal drive it like you stole it. Your neighbors will be pissed daily.
Thanks a lot for the info, I been looking into this as it is my dream car to own an f type R and wont settle for a v6. Funny enough for price i came to the same conclusion of when it first came in AWD or the year before that as rwd would be dated and the first year awd would be the cheapest AWD version. I am worried about mechanical problems as fast cars get beat up, especially before you sell
You mentioned the year 2015 which is in very high demand because they are still RWD. They are harder and harder to find. I've seen 30 to 40 used. I paid 22 for my 2015 s
The graphs are only displayed in the video. The market price for a 2015 car with 75,000 miles is around $41,000. However, if you have a look at the market, then you see that there are cars for sale with the same price but with a significant lower mileage. Therefore, I would rather say that the price for a car with 75,00 miles should be in the high thirties. In the video, you can also see that the cars with the high mileages are labelled white and therefore considered not to follow the normal market dynamics. I.e they are overpriced.
@@fourwheeltrader Thanks for the reply! I agree 100% with your assessment. Just from googling listings $41,000-$42,000 seems to be about the asking price for a 50-55k mile car. The higher mileage cars are indeed listed higher than this price wise. I'm unable to actually find anything that suggests that they are actually selling for this. This video came at the perfect time for me. I'm in the market and was working in the same thing, except I'm not nearly as capable.
Interesting video and i completely agree but when the depreciation slows down it still carries on and then you are hit with horrific dealer costs that will bankrupt you - THESE ARE ALL THE COMPELLING REASONS TO BUY A 911 IN THE FIRST INSTANCE - my pre-emission 911GTS convertible has an ear-splitting howl at 7500rpm I just cannot get enough of - and the residuals are industry leading too
If you pay anywhere near the MSRP of a Jaguar F-Type R, you are an idiot with too much money. I bought a brand new 2018 F-Type R at the beginning of the 2019 model year. The MSRP was $112,085, I bought it for $75,000 at a dealership in NY. Out the door after taxes and fees it was a little over $79,000. Now, three months later a car hit me and totaled my F-Type. The insurance company only gave me $79,000 for it. If I would have bought my F-type anywhere near the MSRP, I would have lost a ton of money. However, since I was smart about knowing the depreciation rate of the car and including that into my negotiation when I bought the car, I came out even with my insurance company and bought a new car. Knowing the depreciation of the new vehicle you are about to buy can save you a big headache if something happens with it within the first few years. Jaguar and Maserati depreciate too much in the first year. Granted, the deal that I got with my Jaguar, was pretty exceptional, but if you buy a Jaguar or Maserati, get at least $25,000 off MSRP or you will be sorry and stupid.
I think this is a natural law of consumables : by default the higher investment you make on a car, the larger depreciation one can expect. it is not rocket-science. it is like the old saying goes : the moment you drive your new car from the dealer lot, your car got 20% depreciated ... unless you are buying a car with a true limited edition, and not driving it ... where is the fun in that, right ? :-) you forgot to mention another dimension : the geographical factor, market in US might be different than Europe for instance. another dimension might be : an exceptional behaviour or item which the consumable has, that might also be a reason for higher asking price. for instance the F-type pre-2019 with V6 or V8 engine all have that typical exhaust (sound). since 2020 new ECO legislation rules in Europe and what used to be fine sportcars get now neutered by stupid laws, hence the F-type lost its most favourable item : the exhaust sound and raw nature. by example : out here on European market you can already buy a year old F-type P300 2.0L 300hp with very low mileage at about the same value as a a well spec'd F-type 3.0L V6 340 or 380, with upto 2 to 4 years of age and reasonable mileage (< 30000m). Europe has another nice dimension too : once your engine goes over 3.0L, say 3.6L, 4.2L or 5.0L you get by government taxed extra at purchase ( about 5-10% of your purchase price, related to the engine size ), making V6 cars arround 3.0L a very desirable object. Also consumption is another dimension which Europeans tend to bring into the analysis, at 1.60 USD for 1 Liter 98Ron Fuel, a 5.0L F-type with true avrg 15L/100km (15.6mpg) is less desirable then a 3.0L F-type ... a responsible buyer will make his analysis, yet in the end it is the heart which gives the ultimate vote, isn't it ... ;-)
The F-type depreciates quickly because the MSRP is extremely high. It's simply too expensive even though it's a great car and all but it costs as much as a 2 year old Mclaren...
BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Maserati, jaguar as a example the reason why they lose they value so much. Because maintaining this type of cars is expensive and if you have the type of money most of this people changes cars every 2 or 4 years. People the buy used cars they usually don't have the money to buy a of this new cars and they scared if used ones because of the maintenance.
I also never claimed that they are bad cars. The general rule is that the more expensive the car, the higher the absolute depreciation. The relative depreciation is more or less the same for most cars.
Post-CV19 values of many models have actually appreciated due to supply issues. Likely only a transient phenomena, but this video highlights the trends for that specific time period however the direction of the curve subsequently changed.
@@fourwheeltrader - I'm a dipshit, here's the link. www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c8-general-discussion/4332798-what-will-my-z51-2lt-be-worth-in-3-years.html
It has depreciated greatly, making my chances of owning one... very good!
Yes sir...
I love when my favourite cars depreciate and I would not give a shit even if I owned one cause one thing I won't by my favourite cars for is to sell them later .No I hope the Honda nsx isn't noticed how good by everyone and get hyped so one day I can afford one
@@mrblue-fh4vd NSX don't depreciate sadly only appreciate
@@mrblue-fh4vd I believe NSX is Acura
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just purchased a 2018 v6 and I'm loving it. money can't buy happiness but this car makes me happy 🏁🔥💲😛 I don't regret most of the money I've spent in life because I calculate my life experience into the formula. gotta have fun 🍾
This is fantastic news! I can buy myself an F Type R on the used market for a steal.
You got this spot on! I got a 2015 F-Type R for 46K 1 year ago. The one thing that was not noted is what I think will make the 2015 F-Type R worth more in the future and that is the 2015 F-Type R is the only year the it is a true GT Grand Turing because it is RWD. All other years going into the future are Sport cars. If you are a collector you understand why this is a big deal. The E-Type is where this car comes from so projector headlights and analog tachometer and speedometer makes it a true successor as intended by the designer Ian Callum.
You mean great news for the jaguar type R. This is exactly why I’m buying one. Get one that’s 3 years old with low miles for $60,000 less than new
In my point of view it’s a great investment for the future. This car will be worth lots of money. The F Type will be an icon for Jaguar replacing the E Type
No. Only because they made so many trim levels
@@Anonymous-qj3ry I have to agree with you, perhaps the iconic status of the F type would be easier on its depreciation in the long run though? Any thoughts?
I found this video because I am actively looking for an F Type, and I couldn't be happier. I'm convinced that you just saved me money, and encouraged me that it's worth it to me to go for the R, or even V8S, over the S, especially with the earlier model years. Many thanks!
All I can say is wow! In a good way! I have been studying used car prices for years. And just from osmosis I can give you this same speech about used BMWs. I’ve never seen this kind of data driven in-depth analysis before. And I love it. I only recently got bitten by the jaguar F type R bug. I came to the exact same conclusions you did, by reading every single listing for every car I can find. You need to go as old as you can possibly with the model year and keep the miles low. The higher miles older cars are far too expensive. And there’s no reason to pay extra for 2017or 2018 and if you want that facelift, then, the 2018. And if that’s the case stay the hell away from 2019 (at this point, its august 2020). To see you back this up with data, is very vindicating. Thank you
Don't care about depreciation. Have 70,000 km in my V8S and couldn't care less. You don't buy an F-type for capital appreciation.
Vali Lazarescu It’s never a good idea to lose money. These can be values used w low mileage.
quick question. hows the reliability been? any issues?
Exactly!
If you're buying a car as an investment in other words to make money really?!?
Your V8S is soaring in value.
$1000/month to have a great FKIN time! Worth every penny! Thanks for the info!
ahaha every drive is an event, i got the 2015
I back this comment. Worth every penny, the way you feel driving this thing makes it a great value.
Entertained2036 it’s purchased and I’ll keep it forever! Adding forged wheels this winter to shed some rotating weight. Whoever own an R or SVR don’t ever sell it
Is the regular v6 still worth it ?
@@anthonydavila2224 they are both fun to drive. Both drive fast, good pull on acceleration and have great sound. But if you want the most power and pull, the V8 will be that choice.
I just bought a 2015 RWD Type R with 25,890 mi for $50,000. West coast car USA no rust. Hard to find, bust best deal ever.
This is a great buyers guide.
I never thought about using modeling and CI out of my research topic! Genius!
Your analyses is excellent. Many emotional factors influence choosing the car of your dreams. But one thing is clear, it's unwise to swim against the tide when it comes to knowing what market prices are doing. I've been looking for a Jag F-Type R in the 2015 - 2017 range and your analysis is very helpful and confirms my belief the F-Type R is fast becoming one of the best value buys around because of its massive depreciation. A depreciation analysis showing Horse Power per dollar would put it way near the top!!!
They indeed offer amazing value for money right now.
Man, was some great data-driven info! Thanks for the video.
I love way everyone is saying! As an owner, I don’t give a damn about depreciation😂😂I have a used one and when I get a new one, I’ll lease it! Win/Win
Really useful, got a test today of a 2019 with only 9600 km, -40% of original list price. Bought it.
This is a huge reason I’m getting one next year. Gotta love jaguar depreciation
It is so the right time to buy
@@ItsTheNada Prices have now gone up massively. Hopefully things will change soon. These cars are beast especially V8.
Interesting analysis. And it makes me feel better about my decision to buy my 2015 F-type R RWD with only 16,956 miles. Not that it doesn't depreciate, but hopefully it has leveled off a bit.
Can we please see the F-Type V6 Supercharged version? Thx!
All good news for used F-Type buyers. I got my used F-Type "R" from a reputable dealer for 65% of new price with 4k miles on it. Hope to drive it 17 years like I did my last two cars. Not sure if I'll make it since I already have 62k miles on it after only 4 years. This car is just too much fun to drive.
How about depreciation of wife🤔
And still no better felling, like a Jaag F-type
Just my 2 cents 🔥
Hi Fourwheel Trader
I enjoy your videos
Great information
I bought a 2016 with 20K F Type R AWD in mint condition during lockdown March 2020
Incredible car to drive
Lots of stares when I drive by since very few around
My advice is to buy the best one you can afford that has been well maintained and has a good service history
Love the Jag
How much was it back then?
I’ve just bought a 2015 F Type V6S with 14,000 miles on the clock. It should depreciate fairly slowly now.
I love the depreciation of Jags bec I always buy cars 2-5 yrs old. My Jag XJ12 and XK8 were bought for less than half the list and I drove them for years and enjoyed them. I would never buy a new European car for this reason
The F-type is quite possibly the best car you can get for the money if you're looking for a sports car I just purchased a 2014 V8 S with 50,000 miles on it mint condition lots of upgrades all for only $30,000
my complaint about your graphs is that they go according to dealer price starting and not from MSRP. Just like that saying "As soon as you drive a new car of the lot it loses XXXXX value" Which isnt a very good saying. As soon as you drive a new car off the lot you lose the "upcharge" that the dealership put on the MSRP. Your car just immediately becomes worth actual MSRP when you drive it off the lot. So the true depreciation is according to MSRP and not what the dealer sold it for. The F Type R unfortunately was highly sought after and was a 500+ hp car that got a huge chunk of dealer price upcharge slapped on top of it. If you could legally buy directly from the dealer that problem would disappear. Otherwise appreciate the research and nice work sir!
I purchased my 2015 F-Type from Carmax. The car, along with a no-deuctible five year warranty, was 50% of the original purchase price in 2018. Buying a new F-Type is crazy. Buying a used F-Type makes great sense. I love the car and it was cheap enough to be my daily driver.
Fully agree. A second hand f type offers a lot of car for the money.
Pal of mine got 37% off list on a pre-reg new one - so the cars done 2/3rds of its depn up front !
Thank you. Your analysis is most helpful.
This may be terrible for resellers, but great opportunity for owners, so, it depends of the optics in the end.
Great analysis and consistent with the pricing I’m seeing in the market. Did you look at any depreciation difference across the three engine types? Interested to learn how the market feels about the different engines.
The updated version includes a comparison: ua-cam.com/video/725UodaevvE/v-deo.html
Really good job explaining! I definitely know a vehicle that is almost twice as worse in depreciation. I would love to see this same type of thing done for the Maserati Quattroporte GTS, dating back to the same years as you did for the Jaguar F-Type R...
We’ve been looking for an S or V8 coupe for a month. Looking for 18-22k miles. Frankly I was shocked to learn that 2016-2018 Fs were still 38-44k cars.
It is interesting, because I was in the market for an F-Type R in Oct 2019.
I ended up with a 2016 AWD with 7200 miles. The original sticker price was $109,000. I got it certified used from Jaguar in Dec 2019, for $59,000.
By his formula 3 years of depreciation would be $45.4k ($25k, $11.4k, $9k), and an additional $8157.60 for mileage. From sticker $109,000 - $53,556 = $55,444. No listed F-Type Rs (with ZERO CarFax incidents), were quite in that price range at the time.
For a super clean, very low mileage car. The per year depreciation should be a little bit less; and the per mile depreciation should be a bit MORE than he quotes. IMHO.
Also, certified used, from Jaguar is worth $2000+. I took mine into the dealer for what I thought was a blown speaker, and it was covered under warranty. Something to keep in mind.
Congrats with your ftype and thanks for the comment! When calculating the depreciation numbers it is not necessary to add the depreciation per 1000 miles to the depreciation per year. This affect is namely implicitly already incorporated in the depreciation per year. That is, as long as the increase in mileage is in line with the average increase between the model years. If the increase in mileage is higher than the average the depreciation per year increases.
I'd love to see this analysis done on land Rover discovery sport, or any land rovers for that matter. Thanks for what you do!!!
Here is my rr sport analysis : ua-cam.com/video/M7JZKXO_Kj8/v-deo.html
Thanks that was great, I really want a’16 R and, wish you had gone a little bit further into the future price. When does it get close to flat line aka the bottom, it sounds like it might hit that sooner. ? Most cars I buy at about 10 years when they hit there lowest but before they increase in value. I’m driving a Boxster S 2006 that cost me $20k but it does have 100k miles and did have to spend money to get it squared away.
Have a look at a more recent video: ua-cam.com/video/725UodaevvE/v-deo.html
Very interesting thank you. I am looking at the F type R, Merc AMG GT or bmw i8.
They all have their own depreciation analysis on the channel. Check them out ;)
I’m at the same crossroads. AMG GT or F Type R are the 2 to consider atm.
there is a big difference between the coupe and the convertible to start with, so keep that in mind as well.
It don't matter anymore as you now get to re-calibrate a new depreciation projection from 2020 going forward. After the economic mayhem due to Covid-19 I am quite sure the usual purchasing power will drop at least 50+ %, and with so many people not able to meet their financial commitment, I am sure there will be a surge of second hand car market .
Who cares how fast it depreciates, if you buy one to keep, its worth every penny that it loses. A modern day classic that I'm glad to own 😆
I REALLY want a used Aston Martin (with the V12 engine) but the Jag F-type is almost half the new sticker price. Can you convince me that a used F-type is superior to a used Aston Martin? Great video 👍 thanks.
First of the F type are dropping. Last of xkr seem to be holding. So which do you by for your 30k...
This is a super nice channel!
You are a God send bro.
Your videos are great! Excellent and practical information. I would l e to see the analysis for the Lotus Evora in the USA
Good suggestion. Are you in the market for one?
Yes. I own a 2014 Evora S I bought as second owner. First owner had it for 1 year. I have owned for 2 years. (It was on dealer showrooms for a long time when new and a long time when I bought it used from the dealer). Great car and does not seem to have depreciated much in past two years compared to my purchase price. Now I am looking at either Evora 400 or Evora GT. I’m curious if I buy new how much depreciation will it have or if I should wait a bit longer and find a slightly used one. FYI in the US the first model was Evora, they added Evora S (supercharged) and 2014 was last year in US market for Evora until 2017 the Evora 400 was introduced (no 2015 or 2016 Evora in the US). Finally the Evora GT was just introduced to US market for 2020 model year (but on sale now for several months). I like the new GT but am trying to understand what the depreciation will be per year for the car. I really enjoy your videos they are very well done. Thanks
How much depreciation is left in the 2015s-2016s?...Is it nearing the bottom?
This man is a genius!!! I'll name my next boy after him... BTW: Will the same apply for a F-Type S?
Would a 2014 model year with 60k miles be a slow-er depreciating example? Many thanks 🙏🏻
I take it these prices are based on the American market & will be different in other countries based on supply & demand of course. I always thought that many cars can lose up to 20% of their value as soon as you drive them out of the showroom & as a general rule most cars are only worth half the new price after 3 years , so by comparison , i guess the F-Type is not doing too badly lol ! . So to sum up this Jag is an absolute bargain as a used purchase !.
The numbers are indeed based on the US market. In general, the market dynamics for the big car markets around the globe tend to be rather similair. The absolute numbers, however, will different.
I'm so excited about this news, I saw a used F-type R for 45k with 40k miles. Hopefully it goes down more by Christmas time because that's when I plan on trading in my current car for a new one
JD if you shop around you'll find them for a few thousand less than 45k between 30-60k miles. Just have patience and be ready to pull the trigger when you find one. You might have to travel to pick it up, but it's worth it to own such a cool car. It's definitely not a great investment, but if you get it for a great deal drive it like you stole it. Your neighbors will be pissed daily.
Im waiting for the top of the year
Thanks a lot for the info, I been looking into this as it is my dream car to own an f type R and wont settle for a v6. Funny enough for price i came to the same conclusion of when it first came in AWD or the year before that as rwd would be dated and the first year awd would be the cheapest AWD version. I am worried about mechanical problems as fast cars get beat up, especially before you sell
Maybe you can find a used car with extended dealer warranty?
You mentioned the year 2015 which is in very high demand because they are still RWD. They are harder and harder to find. I've seen 30 to 40 used. I paid 22 for my 2015 s
You can’t take the average slope across a non linear distribution like this to compare. Your answer would depend on the population of the sample.
This is perfect. I just bought an IR Red 2015 R with 16k miles for $47k.
Congrats with your new car!
With most high end cars, you buy them w under 50k miles three to five years old and you’ll save yourself a lot of money and still have a great car.
Absolutely true
2015 Rs are over $60K. Whups. Looking at $200K in 2 years. Impossible to find RWDs. Rocketing in price.
Very eye opening. Love the car but never knew why a used was much cheaper than I thought. I'll look for a used one, thanks.
Good luck in your hunt for a F type.
Could you do one for an M3 and a Lexus GX thank you
Everyone knows cars aren't investments...they're depreciating liabilities. This makes me want to go buy a used Jaguar F-Type!
They offer good value for money.
Great analysis
*Would you dare to purchase a Jaguar F-Type?*
Loved all the analysis you do on your video and would love to support you to make more of these videos.
Thanks! Would you like to see an analysis for any particular car?
My mom wants a f type lol
@@fourwheeltrader you've done a great job covering most of the cars I'm interested in. I love to see you cover AMG GTS
i got 2015, i smile like joker
Great video's. Can you do an analysis of a 911 991 pleeaaaase.... also describe when is a good year to buy used. 1 year or 2 or 3. Cheers
Hi Jordan, the 911 991 is coming up in the next few weeks. Stay tuned.
Great series.. what about a series 1 Aston Martin Vanquish S?
Thanks, good suggestion.
*The F-Type R is so much fun, and a sexy car!*
#AcCollection
Good news for me. Im looking to get one used
How much should I pay today for a 2014 convertible S V6 340 HP?
Hold out for a v8...trust me.
Do you have a link to these Graph? What would the fair/good price for a 2015 with a high 75,000mi?
The graphs are only displayed in the video. The market price for a 2015 car with 75,000 miles is around $41,000. However, if you have a look at the market, then you see that there are cars for sale with the same price but with a significant lower mileage. Therefore, I would rather say that the price for a car with 75,00 miles should be in the high thirties. In the video, you can also see that the cars with the high mileages are labelled white and therefore considered not to follow the normal market dynamics. I.e they are overpriced.
@@fourwheeltrader Thanks for the reply! I agree 100% with your assessment. Just from googling listings $41,000-$42,000 seems to be about the asking price for a 50-55k mile car. The higher mileage cars are indeed listed higher than this price wise. I'm unable to actually find anything that suggests that they are actually selling for this.
This video came at the perfect time for me. I'm in the market and was working in the same thing, except I'm not nearly as capable.
I was trying to look up maintenance costs. I don't care for the collector market shit as I would be buying it used
Interesting video and i completely agree but when the depreciation slows down it still carries on and then you are hit with horrific dealer costs that will bankrupt you - THESE ARE ALL THE COMPELLING REASONS TO BUY A 911 IN THE FIRST INSTANCE - my pre-emission 911GTS convertible has an ear-splitting howl at 7500rpm I just cannot get enough of - and the residuals are industry leading too
The residuals are indeed better than for the Ftype. You can check out the analysis of the 911 991 over here ua-cam.com/video/946hBgbabFI/v-deo.html
Awesome videos! Would love to see one on the Porsche Cayenne 958 & 958.2 Turbo & Turbo S
Thanks. Are you looking to purchase one?
How about depreciation analysis for the 2017 AMG C63/s ?
Good suggestion. Are you in the process of purchasing one or do you already own one?
Prices seem to have gone back up?
Check out the market update: ua-cam.com/video/725UodaevvE/v-deo.html
I signed for a 2021 F Type P300. Maybe you can do a video for that too ;)
Congrats with your new car!
bravo jaguar
Why is the depressiation so high? Anyone an idea?
Brilliant
So I guess basically purchase this car used?
From a depreciation perspective, that's the smartest choice.
What about leasing? You recommend it ?
@@zxcvbnmmasdfghjkl Difficult to say, all depends on one's personal situation.
Thank you
Have you done the s class
Not yet, but i should start to do some more 'luxury' cars.
You failed to insert the corvette video link fwiw
Thanks, I added it now.
If you pay anywhere near the MSRP of a Jaguar F-Type R, you are an idiot with too much money. I bought a brand new 2018 F-Type R at the beginning of the 2019 model year. The MSRP was $112,085, I bought it for $75,000 at a dealership in NY. Out the door after taxes and fees it was a little over $79,000. Now, three months later a car hit me and totaled my F-Type. The insurance company only gave me $79,000 for it. If I would have bought my F-type anywhere near the MSRP, I would have lost a ton of money. However, since I was smart about knowing the depreciation rate of the car and including that into my negotiation when I bought the car, I came out even with my insurance company and bought a new car. Knowing the depreciation of the new vehicle you are about to buy can save you a big headache if something happens with it within the first few years. Jaguar and Maserati depreciate too much in the first year. Granted, the deal that I got with my Jaguar, was pretty exceptional, but if you buy a Jaguar or Maserati, get at least $25,000 off MSRP or you will be sorry and stupid.
Sexiest budget sports car imo
Great...means I can get it used....
sweet now i can afford one haha
I think this is a natural law of consumables : by default the higher investment you make on a car, the larger depreciation one can expect. it is not rocket-science.
it is like the old saying goes : the moment you drive your new car from the dealer lot, your car got 20% depreciated ...
unless you are buying a car with a true limited edition, and not driving it ... where is the fun in that, right ? :-)
you forgot to mention another dimension : the geographical factor, market in US might be different than Europe for instance.
another dimension might be : an exceptional behaviour or item which the consumable has, that might also be a reason for higher asking price. for instance the F-type pre-2019 with V6 or V8 engine all have that typical exhaust (sound). since 2020 new ECO legislation rules in Europe and what used to be fine sportcars get now neutered by stupid laws, hence the F-type lost its most favourable item : the exhaust sound and raw nature.
by example : out here on European market you can already buy a year old F-type P300 2.0L 300hp with very low mileage at about the same value as a a well spec'd F-type 3.0L V6 340 or 380, with upto 2 to 4 years of age and reasonable mileage (< 30000m).
Europe has another nice dimension too : once your engine goes over 3.0L, say 3.6L, 4.2L or 5.0L you get by government taxed extra at purchase ( about 5-10% of your purchase price, related to the engine size ), making V6 cars arround 3.0L a very desirable object.
Also consumption is another dimension which Europeans tend to bring into the analysis, at 1.60 USD for 1 Liter 98Ron Fuel, a 5.0L F-type with true avrg 15L/100km (15.6mpg) is less desirable then a 3.0L F-type ...
a responsible buyer will make his analysis, yet in the end it is the heart which gives the ultimate vote, isn't it ... ;-)
If you listen real carefully, you can hear the depreciation
Would be nice to see Lexus Rcf! Thanks 🤘🤓
I got one a 2016 50k miles for 40k
@@dacbiet More like Lexus Lc500
The F-type depreciates quickly because the MSRP is extremely high. It's simply too expensive even though it's a great car and all but it costs as much as a 2 year old Mclaren...
True, the MSRP is quite steep.
Don’t understand why u keep the new cars in these analysis
BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Maserati, jaguar as a example the reason why they lose they value so much. Because maintaining this type of cars is expensive and if you have the type of money most of this people changes cars every 2 or 4 years. People the buy used cars they usually don't have the money to buy a of this new cars and they scared if used ones because of the maintenance.
Is not because they bad car
I also never claimed that they are bad cars. The general rule is that the more expensive the car, the higher the absolute depreciation. The relative depreciation is more or less the same for most cars.
analysis thanks for the info and replying on me.
50% after 4 years? Even medium class cars depreciate like that.... Nothing special.
Amazing used car tho, I love that car , drive an f type r you will fall in love, stay away from carbon brakes
This guy sounds like a stock broker
I hate these videos, unless you buy a classic all cars are going to depreciate. Never buy new buy used cars always 🤦🏼♂️#tragic
i can never earn money to buy it any way lol
I’m sorry but if you buy a car to hope for appreciation than you are doing something wrong in your life
Post-CV19 values of many models have actually appreciated due to supply issues. Likely only a transient phenomena, but this video highlights the trends for that specific time period however the direction of the curve subsequently changed.
FORGET the DEPRECIATION !!!!!!!!
the REAR SUBFRAME is RUSTING AWAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TATA STEEL JUNK !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mercedes AMG GT
Nice one. Are you looking to purchase an AMG GT?
@@fourwheeltrader - Saw this on the Corvette forum. Cheers.
@@fourwheeltrader - I'm a dipshit, here's the link. www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c8-general-discussion/4332798-what-will-my-z51-2lt-be-worth-in-3-years.html
Thanks