Imma go with Smash 👍 Raidplan based on vid: raidplan.io/plan/Tc770H3dBUNRo1Aa ✨Support me through Patreon for guides and more! ✨ www.patreon.com/joonbob
Your guides are the best. Please do more! The way you present mechanics is very comprehensive, and the videos themselves are just enioyable to watch. I still occasionally pull up the E8S and E12S guide just for the audio/visuals.
Thank you for this. Amazing production quality and the fact you're showing the strats that are actually used instead of adding more different strats to confuse people in Party Finder is a blessing.
Something to note during the clone quadruple crossing, the magic vuln from nail chipper goes away between both hits of it, so you can safely get uptime.
Thank you so much for the guide! Definitely going to link in PF now. One additional small optimization: Once you start the last 2 hits of Raining Cats MTTT, both 3-person parties can collapse to boss ring at rear and the tanks can take the Out/In positions as well as the respective tethers with invuln up. This means that the 6 non-tanks take 0 damage for the last 2 hits of the mechanic.
tyty while it's better on paper for pf i decided it's better to let people stand in place much as possible the incoming damage isn't severe and no damage is lost or gained by doing either way it's more likely for 8 people to forget to move on the 3rd wave vs letting people standing still for majority of the mech
Finally, a GAMEPLAY focused guide! I swear, why people believe a PowerPoint presentation is the absolute standard will always be beyond me; I just can’t learn that way!
Clean and nice tutorial, with solid tracks. The common Joon w. My static cleared this week one, so it's great to see how our strats/positioning fared against other ideas.
HOLY another banger guide yet again 👍 lidally the best guides out there when it comes to both production quality and actually helping to teach the fight
Leaping Double/Quad Crossing is a fun mechanic to scoff at as AST. So far the best spot I've seen where I can pop Macrocosmos, catch the baits and the follow up aoe to get everyone back to full before the following raidwide. Also, DEAR GOD that raidwide does insane damage.
i swear to christ that i summoned you??? we were talking about strats and stuff in my static the other day and i was like, “maaan… i miss joonbob’s guides! they were a production!” and like magic, here you are!! 👏👏
All the people suggesting moving between hit 2 and 3 of raining cats have not been in enough parties of the tanks not knowing what in and out is, goblins not being able to count to 4, or casters greeding out in narnia. One minute attempt at opti is maiming the pf clear rate. Just please stand still and secure the books for the love of god.
the only issue with quadruple crossing for DPS bait is if you have a NIN in the party and then it's only the very first mech. their TCJ comes up at first hit in the opener. If you're doing DPS bait first, expect the NIN to sit on the hit box. if the rest follow what's shown as max melee or deep in the box should be ok. the other solution is to do support bait first. either works but be mindful in a PF if you have a NIN there, you'll need to work with them to be clear. but if you're all going max melee out/further in should be ok. Great video as always.
my group does ranged first. PF will never adopt that though because naichipper forces DPS or support first and they won't like having two different bait spots.
Even if you don't feel the need to make more guides til Ult or next tier, I cleared this fight my first live savage clear since P1 and P2 I'm happy and having fun again thank you.
even if I've already cleared it, I just like watching your guides for animations and music xD started watching ever since p8s. To this day I jam to that lol
Watching a tutorial for me is like a tsunami - It's confusing even if you understand some of it. But practicing on the other hand is better for me, as I learn better by practicing - even if more mistakes are made, which means learn from them more
Maybe you can make a mini guide for an alternative strat for "Smash or Pass" where you the party can stay on a single tile for the entire phase. You take Smash on diagonally opposing tiles and get Passed diagonally onto another row. Hard to explain without a photo but it's by far the best way to do this mechanic, guarantees full uptime as well.
same tile is fine as an option but shouldn't be absolute people fail the snapshot timing and turn around late all the time and/or melee get scared of that and start on the opposite corner further from boss (lose damage) best to do combo of both
Also on MTTT, party should stack together on the hitbox for Hits 3 & 4; M1 goes inside hitbox, M2 goes max-melee. This saves healing on the rest of the party since tanks are taking both tethers and closest/farthest hits. Great vid as always. o7
The great part about this is that they slowed dps down enough to be able to see raining cats. Otherwise, they would have most definitely skipped raining cats altogether.
@@Professor_Utonium_ You think a mfer clearin' week 1 in PF? With a full time work schedule? When they gotta touch grass? In what world is the average person not only a week 1 raider, but *expected* to be raiding and clearing week 1? You wilin' my man, the average player isn't even expected to be a savage raider lmao, there is no "you *should* be clearing week 1"
@@Professor_Utonium_Learn to read lil bro. Not everyone has 6 hours to burn playing PF roulette with illiterate andy’s like you lmao. Unlike you, some people got shit to do besides school. You the type of guy to join a TN party then whine about no one doing it BR. Have your mom read it aloud to you if you’re still struggling to grasp the english language.
Same I hope to get a clear this week with pf. Hopefully can find people that understand the nail chipper it's the same position just watch the debuff!!!
felicia if she were even more of a baddie Awesome guide, as usual. Your visual-heavy style really complements this raid tier (which is low on mech complexity, but high on personal responsibility and mech speed). I think the only thing I would have liked to have seen is an overhead diagram of Nailchipper, even though it's literally just the same as the regular Quad Crossing with the roles occasionally reversed. A little pointer for the square floor markers that the clone jumps to would have been wonderful, both for the tank kiting the boss and for everyone to orient themselves for protean baits. For whatever reason, that mech alone is the bane of PF. That aside, I'm really looking forward to the rest of your videos this tier!
Hello! I always watch your videos! i'm using it for reference, so there was no problem with clearing it! If it's not rude, can I translate this video for my friend who is doing FF14 in Korea? I'll be waiting for your reply! :3 ) =3 !!!
Odd you didn't say for everyone to just clump right behind the boss for the 3rd/4th AoE hits of Raining Cats and have both tanks stand inside the hitbox while they're invulning the hits... makes the healing a joke.
that is objectively better but it's hard enough for people to go to their spots to begin with planting + less moving parts better for PF dmg isn't that severe to begin with
d(^-^d) Good Explanations, Great Diagrams, the Knockup vs Smash animation off the Boss clearly showcased - awesome Job mhm mhm. Now I am wondering if doing this without a Healer has crossed your mind >.>; !!
Joonbob no, you were ment to save melees from having to true north with conal baits! not force them them out of safe flank positionals! (I just think cardinal conals makes more sense I'm sorry)
every mech can be done with boss facing north only exception is when she does the sideways jump for clone cones during clones the tank can simply face the boss north no reason to swap to boss relative for whole fight due to one mech
@@rithli eh, fair. Me personally my brain doesn’t really work well with TN ask me and my group used BR. doesn’t matter really as long as group is in agreement.
Something I'd want to note for the tanks that want to worry about positioning the boss for the cones + Nail Chipper leap, as long as the clones are jumping to the same side, you can ignore the side cleave clone outside of dodging the cleaves, and purely position the boss by the cone baits, potentially giving you a bit more time to get that positioning just right
Imma go with Smash 👍
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cleared 30 seconds before this was uploaded, joonbob my beloved
you'll need it for PF reclears
@@rithli looking forward to your hatsune bee-ku guide
@@Aegis--- guide: don't simp
@@rithli DAMN
Your guides are the best. Please do more! The way you present mechanics is very comprehensive, and the videos themselves are just enioyable to watch. I still occasionally pull up the E8S and E12S guide just for the audio/visuals.
the design of your guides are so visually appealing💯
Thank you for this. Amazing production quality and the fact you're showing the strats that are actually used instead of adding more different strats to confuse people in Party Finder is a blessing.
The best Savage videos around! Always waiting for the cook. Looking forward to the next fights!
these are THE best guides hands down bc they show the fight and each mechanic; they're easy to watch & straight forward. Joonbob, you are the best
I just watch these to jam. Superb work as always!!
Really clear and good guide as always Joonbob, keep up the great work!
Something to note during the clone quadruple crossing, the magic vuln from nail chipper goes away between both hits of it, so you can safely get uptime.
i love u[time
this was honestly the most helpful guide i've seen.
Thank you so much for the guide! Definitely going to link in PF now.
One additional small optimization: Once you start the last 2 hits of Raining Cats MTTT, both 3-person parties can collapse to boss ring at rear and the tanks can take the Out/In positions as well as the respective tethers with invuln up. This means that the 6 non-tanks take 0 damage for the last 2 hits of the mechanic.
tyty
while it's better on paper for pf i decided it's better to let people stand in place much as possible
the incoming damage isn't severe and no damage is lost or gained by doing either way
it's more likely for 8 people to forget to move on the 3rd wave vs letting people standing still for majority of the mech
your production quality is amazing! i hope to see the other fights too
thank u for the amazing guides as always, king
The quality of your guides never ceases to impress Joon, truly doing Hydelyn's work. Keep it up!
Been waiting for these clean animations for a while let's goo
Joonbob, your guides are the GOAT.
Masterful guides my liege
Just in time for raid tonight! Thank youu
good luck in there
At this point, your channel is a guide and a playlist for me. You always got some nice music for me to jam to.
0:05 We need that as a standalone image, without the text on there, asap! Omfg that's such a great bit of art!
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!! WOOOOO
thanks for waiting
Finally, a GAMEPLAY focused guide!
I swear, why people believe a PowerPoint presentation is the absolute standard will always be beyond me; I just can’t learn that way!
Clean and nice tutorial, with solid tracks. The common Joon w.
My static cleared this week one, so it's great to see how our strats/positioning fared against other ideas.
You never miss with the music choices
HOLY SHIT THIS IS GORGEOUS
HOLY another banger guide yet again 👍
lidally the best guides out there when it comes to both production quality and actually helping to teach the fight
:kneelge:
Supporting my goat
Leaping Double/Quad Crossing is a fun mechanic to scoff at as AST. So far the best spot I've seen where I can pop Macrocosmos, catch the baits and the follow up aoe to get everyone back to full before the following raidwide. Also, DEAR GOD that raidwide does insane damage.
That art of the boss is just *chef's kiss*. Thank you for all your hard work, your guides are always a treat.
Ype, giant furry woman are hot
Very Nice!
Ah yes the best guide maker thank you we've been lost
i swear to christ that i summoned you??? we were talking about strats and stuff in my static the other day and i was like, “maaan… i miss joonbob’s guides! they were a production!” and like magic, here you are!! 👏👏
PF savior returns when we needed him most...
Love your guides, my dude 🥹
MY KING IS BACK LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
(i've enjoyed watching you prog and reclear on twitch!!)
WELCOME BACK KING
THE GOAT IS HERE
Quadruple clone as MT is the hardest mechanic of this tier and you can't change my mind. It's way too much for my little brain to keep track of lol
bumpbumpbumpbumpbump push this in the algorithm WELCOME BACK KING IM SO HAPPY
All the people suggesting moving between hit 2 and 3 of raining cats have not been in enough parties of the tanks not knowing what in and out is, goblins not being able to count to 4, or casters greeding out in narnia. One minute attempt at opti is maiming the pf clear rate. Just please stand still and secure the books for the love of god.
Oh, you were in my PT for my reclear. I'm the RDM that dies at copy cat. We eventually got a clear and I managed to not die.
YES! Now i can strat progging
joonbob beloved
thank you for all the work you do :)
Here since E8S, still here today !
good to have ya
@@rithli everybody took your style now
@@rithli Thanks to your guide, finally just down it ! Can't wait for M2S !
YES! Now i can strat progging :D ! Thank you always for the great vids! Take care now and see you at M2S!
Joobbob guides are back?! I cleared week 1, but still. Hype.
I MISSED YOU JOONBOB MY GOAT
Another banger from joonbob, cheers king!
the only issue with quadruple crossing for DPS bait is if you have a NIN in the party and then it's only the very first mech. their TCJ comes up at first hit in the opener. If you're doing DPS bait first, expect the NIN to sit on the hit box. if the rest follow what's shown as max melee or deep in the box should be ok. the other solution is to do support bait first. either works but be mindful in a PF if you have a NIN there, you'll need to work with them to be clear. but if you're all going max melee out/further in should be ok. Great video as always.
my group does ranged first. PF will never adopt that though because naichipper forces DPS or support first and they won't like having two different bait spots.
excellent music as always o7
Even if you don't feel the need to make more guides til Ult or next tier, I cleared this fight my first live savage clear since P1 and P2 I'm happy and having fun again thank you.
congrats 🎉
guides for the other 3 are on their way intended for later clears/prog players
once again proving that no one does it better than joonbob.
Wish I had this before finishing the tier.
very nice!
Slash Beast’s theme. I love it. ❤
YEAHHH MY GOATT! Appreciate this so much Uncle Joon!
even if I've already cleared it, I just like watching your guides for animations and music xD
started watching ever since p8s. To this day I jam to that lol
The god returns.
and when PF needed him most, he returned ..........
hope to see more of your stuff, mr. bob! your guides were always my favorite
Dang I thought this was coming out tomorrow. Lunch me was thinking of starting to learn this fight with Lyrina telling me what's up.
Only thing I do have to say, for the cleave baits you should do SUPP first, as there are classes like NIN that cant do DPS first
Hopefully this'll be the main video starts
Lol midway thru and it turns into a mega man run, I love it
I haven't cleared yet thank u joon
Watching a tutorial for me is like a tsunami - It's confusing even if you understand some of it.
But practicing on the other hand is better for me, as I learn better by practicing - even if more mistakes are made, which means learn from them more
Pretty but pls give the art some chocolate love ❤
Maybe you can make a mini guide for an alternative strat for "Smash or Pass" where you the party can stay on a single tile for the entire phase. You take Smash on diagonally opposing tiles and get Passed diagonally onto another row. Hard to explain without a photo but it's by far the best way to do this mechanic, guarantees full uptime as well.
same tile is fine as an option but shouldn't be absolute
people fail the snapshot timing and turn around late all the time
and/or melee get scared of that and start on the opposite corner further from boss (lose damage)
best to do combo of both
Also on MTTT, party should stack together on the hitbox for Hits 3 & 4; M1 goes inside hitbox, M2 goes max-melee. This saves healing on the rest of the party since tanks are taking both tethers and closest/farthest hits. Great vid as always. o7
if your PF party can remember to do that then by all means
lets gooooooooo PF is saved!
lol
JOONBOBERS RISE UP
The great part about this is that they slowed dps down enough to be able to see raining cats. Otherwise, they would have most definitely skipped raining cats altogether.
🔥🔥
Asuka 120% my beloved
Please save us im tired of having to look at 18 new raidplans every week
You should have 2 clears by now lol
@@Professor_Utonium_ You think a mfer clearin' week 1 in PF? With a full time work schedule? When they gotta touch grass?
In what world is the average person not only a week 1 raider, but *expected* to be raiding and clearing week 1? You wilin' my man, the average player isn't even expected to be a savage raider lmao, there is no "you *should* be clearing week 1"
@@dkcsi9256 It took me 6 hours in PF to beat M1S, it's not that hard lol
@@Professor_Utonium_Learn to read lil bro. Not everyone has 6 hours to burn playing PF roulette with illiterate andy’s like you lmao. Unlike you, some people got shit to do besides school. You the type of guy to join a TN party then whine about no one doing it BR.
Have your mom read it aloud to you if you’re still struggling to grasp the english language.
Same I hope to get a clear this week with pf. Hopefully can find people that understand the nail chipper it's the same position just watch the debuff!!!
can't wait for M4S come out XD
Joonbob the GOAT
Joon please upload an m4s guide kthx
We just gotta wait till he makes his m2 and m3 savage
It'll be September by then 😂
felicia if she were even more of a baddie
Awesome guide, as usual. Your visual-heavy style really complements this raid tier (which is low on mech complexity, but high on personal responsibility and mech speed). I think the only thing I would have liked to have seen is an overhead diagram of Nailchipper, even though it's literally just the same as the regular Quad Crossing with the roles occasionally reversed. A little pointer for the square floor markers that the clone jumps to would have been wonderful, both for the tank kiting the boss and for everyone to orient themselves for protean baits. For whatever reason, that mech alone is the bane of PF.
That aside, I'm really looking forward to the rest of your videos this tier!
I really hope this way of doing quad crossing sticks in the PF world. It’s way easier to bait them both in the same spot.
Make your own PF and specify "same baits" it's not that difficult lol
Great guide as usual Joonbob! anywyas is that megaman X bgm im hearring? 😂
Wait is the 1st music in the backrground from Tekken ? :-P
pf is saved
PLEASE come up with a good strategy for m2s pherormone.
It's called "dodging"
Ty for saving PF
Best guides and presentation! Love the art too, do you draw it as well? :D
yup
Tekken and MMX music in one video? A true man of culture.
Request: if you make an m3s video use tame a bad boy from kof 13 I beg
Smash or pass, what a name lol
Joonbob is OUT and he says same-baits are IN
PF is saved!
Hello! I always watch your videos! i'm using it for reference, so there was no problem with clearing it! If it's not rude, can I translate this video for my friend who is doing FF14 in Korea? I'll be waiting for your reply! :3 ) =3 !!!
thank you
if you are just using it for personal use for your friend and don't reupload it i don't mind!
@@rithli Thank you! Also, could you please allow me to use UA-cam subtitles for korea ff14 users? Thank you for your reply! (*≧▽≦)/
@@가류-x1hif you send me a subtitle link, I can add it to this video
Odd you didn't say for everyone to just clump right behind the boss for the 3rd/4th AoE hits of Raining Cats and have both tanks stand inside the hitbox while they're invulning the hits... makes the healing a joke.
that is objectively better
but it's hard enough for people to go to their spots to begin with
planting + less moving parts better for PF
dmg isn't that severe to begin with
d(^-^d) Good Explanations, Great Diagrams, the Knockup vs Smash animation off the Boss clearly showcased - awesome Job mhm mhm. Now I am wondering if doing this without a Healer has crossed your mind >.>; !!
i'll leave that to someone else probably haha
LFG!!!
Is that Mega Man X at 4:10?
I noticed it too. Megaman x4
I see same baits, I like.
Joonbob no, you were ment to save melees from having to true north with conal baits! not force them them out of safe flank positionals! (I just think cardinal conals makes more sense I'm sorry)
why did you recommend true north over boss relative?
every mech can be done with boss facing north
only exception is when she does the sideways jump for clone cones
during clones the tank can simply face the boss north
no reason to swap to boss relative for whole fight due to one mech
@@rithli eh, fair. Me personally my brain doesn’t really work well with TN ask me and my group used BR. doesn’t matter really as long as group is in agreement.
I love reclearing first floor of savage, its always clown fest lol 😂
Something I'd want to note for the tanks that want to worry about positioning the boss for the cones + Nail Chipper leap, as long as the clones are jumping to the same side, you can ignore the side cleave clone outside of dodging the cleaves, and purely position the boss by the cone baits, potentially giving you a bit more time to get that positioning just right
so much better than hector