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  • @BobWorldBuilder
    @BobWorldBuilder  День тому +16

    Videos like this (non-official D&D) are only possible with Patreon!
    ➡Consider joining here: www.patreon.com/bobworldbuilder

    • @humblegallipot
      @humblegallipot День тому

      Would you cover Legend in The Mist? It's perfect for people who intimidated by number heavy games. One dice mechanic handles everything

  • @wouterlangkemper2739
    @wouterlangkemper2739 День тому +45

    Booklet to the face immediately made like the video.
    That was just good old-fashioned hilarity.

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому +11

      Slapstick comedy?
      Slapbook comedy✅

    • @willmendoza8498
      @willmendoza8498 День тому +1

      Same

    • @josephpince4716
      @josephpince4716 19 годин тому

      I’m here for it! I’ve “tricked” several people into playing a game simply by rolling up a character against their will. 😁

    • @CheeseWyrm
      @CheeseWyrm 16 годин тому +2

      Yeah, but I think the D&D5e'24 PHB across the face would've had more impact! ;)

  • @heyyitskelvi
    @heyyitskelvi День тому +75

    You're my hero. I've been looking at Shadowdark for a while, and I think this video has finally convinced me. It's going to make it easier on my wife, who is intimidated by the 5e of PF2e character sheet.

    • @CaseyWilkesmusic
      @CaseyWilkesmusic День тому +11

      Everything about shadowdark is pretty great honestly. Trying to figure out how many extra points to to give to your half-orc barbarian of the totem class blah blah blah
      “Bruh I’m a fighter. Let’s go”

    • @Grey_Pete
      @Grey_Pete День тому +5

      do it, you will not be dissapointed.

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому +11

      Happy to help! Remember, that quick start PDF is free, but if you're already familiar with 5e and PF, springing for the core SD book while it's in stock will give you lots of other tight resources to pull from.

    • @CausticCatastrophe
      @CausticCatastrophe День тому +2

      Its very elegant, and well worth the hype. :)

    • @Beholderguitars
      @Beholderguitars День тому +2

      I've been using Shadowdark to teach new players for a year now. It's perfect for new players. And grizzled, rules-weary veterans, too.

  • @bullseyeonline
    @bullseyeonline День тому +24

    I've been playing D&D at least once a week since 1979.
    I've run just about every edition and similacrum out there.
    In my opinion, the Shadowdark quick start is the absolute best way to get into "the game".
    Great video Bob!
    For those of you reading this that haven't tried Shadowdark, stop what you're doing and go order the quick start!

  • @Dysfunctional_Reprint
    @Dysfunctional_Reprint День тому +33

    I beyond adore Shadowdark.
    I've been trying and struggling to run DND for a group of my students who all had limited gaming experience and some what limited literacy skills.
    It was such a travesty that I was in the process of making a D6 stripped down game.
    After watching some of your videos about Shadowdark I gave it a try and let me tell you it's a night and day difference!
    Just ordered the big core book after running with the quickstart for a while.

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому +4

      That is excellent! Love to hear how trying something new made it work!

  • @norcalbowhunter3264
    @norcalbowhunter3264 День тому +19

    Shadowdark is the way. I’ve been trying to find a system to plant my flag in for a while and after running a handful of sessions in Shadowdark I’m done looking. It offers what i need and is very concise.

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому +5

      Well done for exploring other games! I shudder to think of how many people try dnd once or twice, don't jive with it, then just abandon RPGs forever!

  • @bathtubmafia2042
    @bathtubmafia2042 22 години тому +2

    Dude, we switched from 5e to SD a few months ago. Changed our table; breathed new life into it. This game is so well designed, more than you would assume at first glance. The way the mechanics interact and bounce off each other create incredible and dramatic sessions!

  • @sirguy6678
    @sirguy6678 День тому +12

    Great video! What do you mean “make one up”? There has to be RULES! And RULES about RULES! Without 500 pages of rules, gaming is just chaos.

    • @SortKaffe
      @SortKaffe 11 годин тому +1

      I read your comment twice before deciding that your funny! 🤣

    • @Triceratopping
      @Triceratopping 8 годин тому

      "How will I know a fireball does fire damage unless the rulebook tells me!?"

  • @ElderGoblinGames
    @ElderGoblinGames День тому +10

    What a timely video! We started our ShadowDark session zero last night. Sending this to the group. Thanks Bob!

  • @NocturnalPeacock
    @NocturnalPeacock День тому +5

    Freaking cool video! Shadowdark is such a fun system, ran it dozens of times already. Mixing Shadowdark & DCC stuff is especially fun. You are doing the Dark Gods work , Bob, thank you

  • @jessedotson5998
    @jessedotson5998 День тому +6

    I’ve been running a shadowdark campaign for almost two years, and it’s been a blast!!!

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому

      That's awesome! Many people still think it's only good for dungeons or shorter games, so spread the word far and wide!

  • @deep_fried_bread
    @deep_fried_bread День тому +3

    My partner wants me to run a dnd campaign again with some people who haven’t played before and I’ve honestly been dreading going through character creation again. Even with experienced roleplayers it takes more than an hour the first time… Just playing Shadowdark instead is a great idea! Thank you

  • @davidhoward4955
    @davidhoward4955 День тому +7

    Shadowdark is one that has slowly won me over. I’m looking forward to really trying it out.

  • @kevindonville8185
    @kevindonville8185 День тому +3

    @BobworldBuilder - Character creation is one of my favorite parts of gaming. In Rolemaster ( a VERY !!! crunchy game system) I actually created my own "module" by consolidating all of the 12 books needed to create characters into a consolidated flip book I nick-named "Character Law".

  • @Avenger222
    @Avenger222 День тому +12

    This is incredibly helpful, thank you! Always happy for more ShadowDark love. Also as a bonus tip for others! d4 Caltrops has a d100 table for "Priesthood Penances & Cleric Contritions". It makes failing as a priest all the more fun!

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому +2

      Sounds like a great resource! Thanks for mentioning it

    • @pez5767
      @pez5767 День тому +2

      Thank you for the link. I'm going to check this out right now.

    • @SortKaffe
      @SortKaffe 11 годин тому +1

      Amazing resource! Thank you so much for sharing it!

  • @billdefranza4927
    @billdefranza4927 День тому +4

    Bob, you and your channel are an absolute delight.

  • @HowtoRPG
    @HowtoRPG День тому +2

    Shadowdark is my new favourite game. Thanks for talking about it.

  • @red_wullf
    @red_wullf День тому +13

    Shadderdark and OSE (inc Dolmenwood) are hands down my favorite D&Ds.

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому +1

      Maybe "Torch Game" would be easier to rattle off.

    • @red_wullf
      @red_wullf День тому

      @ I’m reminded of that Family Guy episode where Stewie can say “cool” and “whip” correctly, but always emphasizes the “h” when saying “coolwHip.” 😅

  • @Grey_Pete
    @Grey_Pete День тому +3

    I picked up SD 3 weeks ago, I read the starter set in a couple hours, built a small adventure and ran a game for my group the same weekend. We have had 2 sessions since then. It's a HIT!! I highly recommend it!!

  • @Beholderguitars
    @Beholderguitars День тому +2

    Thanks, Bob. I've been running Shadowdark on and off for a year now, and my main gaming group of stalwart 5th edition players are now favouring Shadowdark for our game sessions. As the DM, I prefer the rulings over the rules approach, and we love this game. Tellingly, we all have the 2024 D&D rules, but we haven't even cracked those books open yet. We're too busy having laughs and thrills, keeping the torches lit in the depths of the shadowdark. I loved this video, thanks!

  • @ingjaldsleikestove
    @ingjaldsleikestove День тому +2

    Shadowdark and your presentation of it, is some of the best in the RPG community now.

  • @CausticCatastrophe
    @CausticCatastrophe День тому +2

    I love that you are making videos about shadowdark (shadowdarkings is just pure fun to do, i make characters when on the train!).
    Very excited to see you are making a book too! Cant get enough of this shadowdark stuff. :)

  • @KnicKnac
    @KnicKnac День тому +2

    Honestly this system sounds so fun. Might just look into it for short games. Thanks for covering how to make a character

  • @fki788
    @fki788 День тому +2

    I liked the tone and the straight to the point attitude. Thanks Bob, let's have more fun playing DnD together.

  • @jonhaynie1987
    @jonhaynie1987 День тому +7

    Shadowdark: all of the fun and none of the fuss. Peak TTRPG.

  • @JKevinCarrier
    @JKevinCarrier День тому +2

    Just ran my first Shadowdark session this past weekend, and it lives up to the hype. Lightning-fast, and full of great nail-biting moments of suspense. It's D&D with all the rust scraped off.

  • @TheWintersoldier84
    @TheWintersoldier84 День тому +4

    Shadowdark is the reason my group actually plays regularly.

  • @demetrinight5924
    @demetrinight5924 День тому +2

    I like the simplified spell casting. Knowing the spell until you fail a spell roll could take care of the spell slot economy.
    I will need to check out Shadowdark.

  • @spaceghostohio7989
    @spaceghostohio7989 День тому +8

    Our first Shadowdark session is on Saturday ! Looking forward to it !!

  • @tylerhathaway7896
    @tylerhathaway7896 День тому +3

    Sounds like a fun system. The magic rules sound fun

  • @seaborgium919
    @seaborgium919 День тому +7

    I am so excited for Delve. Especially since I'm starting a new game soon and I know that at least one monster in there is gonna be very useful for me

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому

      Thank you!! The monsters alpha PDF should be going out to backers today! More parts coming soon before the full PDF is done in Feb!

  • @f.a.santiago1053
    @f.a.santiago1053 День тому +3

    MOAR SHADODARK!!! MOOOOOAAAAARRRR!!!!
    Also, I think the stoneborn are my favorite ancestry.

  • @joshabel6157
    @joshabel6157 День тому +3

    Thanks for the great video, Bob! I am starting a new ShadowDark campaign this Friday and shared this with my players. Looking forward to running this for the first time.

  • @OdinsKeyGaming
    @OdinsKeyGaming День тому +3

    Those are some amazing practical effects Bob! Shadowdark is awesome! I haven’t had the opportunity to play yet but I have made a couple of characters and own the book. Everyone praises it so much about how fun it is, and easy to get into.

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому +1

      Thanks a lot! It was not so easy to rig up the book/string haha

  • @easternshorescreenprinting5426
    @easternshorescreenprinting5426 День тому +3

    Shadowdark is my game of choice at the moment.

  • @BarbarosaAlexander
    @BarbarosaAlexander День тому +3

    Bob World Builder, always making gaming better for everyone.

  • @Bluecho4
    @Bluecho4 День тому +1

    I've heard a lot of folks mention Shadowdark. But I never knew it was this easy or, well, this agreeable. I might need to give it a try sometime.

  • @ScenesByOmnic
    @ScenesByOmnic День тому +4

    Love the more casual feel in your videos. Not sure I needed another Shadowdark themed video... but the personality can sell a lot, and why I've considered the Patreon.
    Cudos to the authenticity!

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому

      Thanks very much! And yes Patreon is why I can publish videos about games like this :)

  • @brokenmeats5928
    @brokenmeats5928 День тому +5

    I love ALL Bob World Builder videos!

  • @dustincoopermusic
    @dustincoopermusic День тому +1

    I love how your answer to D&D is always Shadowdark (lol). I totally agree! ;-)
    I had already been running Shadowdark for a Library Tweens club, but now that I am officially the GM for the same library's Teen D&D club, I might start them off on Shadowdark too (unless they are more experienced, and then I'll run D&D).

  • @willmendoza8498
    @willmendoza8498 День тому +1

    Shadowdark has been great for getting me back to the feeling of playing DnD Basic when I was a kid, but without all the non-intuitive weirdness that came with it. Looking forward to Delve as well.

  • @timothymason7008
    @timothymason7008 День тому +3

    I love all Bob World Builder videos!

  • @doctorsethjones
    @doctorsethjones День тому +8

    We need a behind the scenes for this video. How many times did Grace hit you with the book before you got the shot? Did she ever "forget" and throw the new Player's Handbook at your face instead?

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому +7

      I regret not taking a picture or something, but that was actually me lowering, raising, and even throwing the book lol, rigged it up around a pull-up bar, and I think might be able to see my hand in the corner during the toss xD

  • @jonsturgill6508
    @jonsturgill6508 День тому +1

    Thank you for this vid; some folk got really mad on another channel when I said creation shouldn't take more than ten minutes. 🙃

  • @jeffreykershner440
    @jeffreykershner440 День тому +1

    Thanks for showing the quick start. Seems like a good way to go!

  • @hcpookie
    @hcpookie День тому +3

    "Delve is coming soon" >> "Delve is coming not soon enough" :D

  • @JesseSteinfort
    @JesseSteinfort День тому +4

    Lol...that intro. Hilarious 😂

  • @briankelly1240
    @briankelly1240 День тому +4

    Love the intro, you have such a fun sense of humor

  • @theotherwoman7314
    @theotherwoman7314 День тому +1

    This is awesome. Just what i was looking for. Ive been wanting to run a second game for awhile but have been wary about how I could prep and have figured id need to develop a lite version. Looks like theyve already thought that out. My games are almost exclusively low level as well so the leveling system seems like a perfect fit. Super exicted to try this out. The world of ttrpg is large and intimidating to explore at times so I really appreciate you making this content!

  • @Grimlore82
    @Grimlore82 День тому +2

    Thirty seconds in and was going to suggest Shadowdark RPG 😉

  • @richardrdotson
    @richardrdotson День тому +1

    This sounds very cool. May look at simple systems next.

  • @DMTalesTTRPG
    @DMTalesTTRPG День тому +3

    Love Shadowdark.

  • @josephbradshaw6985
    @josephbradshaw6985 День тому +1

    Kickstarted this one. Money well spent.

  • @yvindheilo229
    @yvindheilo229 День тому +1

    Shadowdark is great. Running two campaigns with it atm.

  • @dantherpghero2885
    @dantherpghero2885 День тому +2

    4D6 drop the lowest forever! And I Love ALL Bob World Builder videos!

  • @GKahla
    @GKahla День тому +1

    Excellent intro to this cool game! Thanks for sharing. 🍪☕

  • @blakespangler3111
    @blakespangler3111 День тому +2

    This sounds really fun. I’ll have to check out the system!

  • @markbittinger4066
    @markbittinger4066 День тому +2

    Looking forward to Delve. I backed the Shadowdark version, natch.

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому

      Thank you! The alpha PDF of the monsters should be going out to backers TODAY!

  • @broke_af_games9661
    @broke_af_games9661 День тому +1

    Alright alright alright, thanks Bob, i'm sold!

  • @ryanduddleson1806
    @ryanduddleson1806 18 годин тому +1

    Great job promoting a great system.

  • @macoppy6571
    @macoppy6571 День тому +1

    0-level ShadowDark characters are not guaranteed to start with weapons! This created a TPK when I ran two against the Forgotten Forge adventure from 3.5 Eberron Campaign Setting.

    • @Heritage367
      @Heritage367 День тому

      Did you make any significant adjustments? Forgotten Forge is designed for 1st level 3.5 characters, who are much more powerful than 0 level SD characters.

  • @Hellvector
    @Hellvector Годину тому

    The value packed into the Shadowdark quick start booklets is astounding, and was the thing to finally pull me into playing independent RPGs before we even knew how incredible the full game was going to end up.

  • @MylonPruett
    @MylonPruett 3 години тому

    This is the best opening of any of your videos ever. The low-budget floating booklet into a booklet to the face!
    Incredible; I literally laughed out loud!

  • @ronwingrove683
    @ronwingrove683 6 годин тому

    "Throwing a book at Bob" was definitely a highlight of Grace World Destroyer's day.

  • @EricAyala-ot
    @EricAyala-ot День тому +2

    Bob, finally able to watch your video right before work, within an hour of posting. Hard to do when posting during work day. When is your audience available to watch within an hour?

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому

      Thanks! I've always stuck with morning Eastern Time because it's when I uploaded while I had my other job, and I feel like other US timezones (most of my viewers) see it throughout the day. With the way UA-cam has been changing though, might be worth tinkering with upload time...

  • @GuillotineWit-t4c
    @GuillotineWit-t4c День тому

    Sitting around a table with friends creating characters during campaign 0 is an experience in itself.

  • @jonathansmith2791
    @jonathansmith2791 8 годин тому

    Trying Shadowdark in my next campaign!! This gives the boost I needed to start! Thx Bob as always!

  • @RojaAlego
    @RojaAlego День тому +2

    Great video!

  • @tonygonzales726
    @tonygonzales726 День тому +1

    Best opening EVER!!!!!!

  • @urdinaran
    @urdinaran 17 годин тому

    Great Video! Love Shadowdark and I can't wait to get my hands on Delve!

  • @mattbartee8454
    @mattbartee8454 День тому +4

    Now if only my FLGS would start carrying Shadowdark. Do they even distribute the zines/core rule books?

    • @heyyitskelvi
      @heyyitskelvi День тому +1

      Have you asked if they can order it for you?

    • @mattbartee8454
      @mattbartee8454 День тому +2

      @@heyyitskelvi I've been hoping as it gains in popularity they would start carrying it. I think it is time to ask next time I go by

    • @CaseyWilkesmusic
      @CaseyWilkesmusic День тому +2

      If you have the book, maybe offer to run a game and they can try to sell some inventory that day

    • @BobWorldBuilder
      @BobWorldBuilder  День тому +2

      I don't think I've seen it in a store yet. I'd ask the store owners or maybe ask around in the SD discord. If anyone's managed to get the store stocking it, it'll be someone in that server!

  • @HorizonOfHope
    @HorizonOfHope День тому

    Shadowdark is the greatest RPG ever. I highly recommend getting the book (hard copy or PDF) - it's the entire thing for players and DMs, monsters and items the whole bit.

  • @matthewmcguigan4293
    @matthewmcguigan4293 20 годин тому

    Love the Shadowdark system. Looking forward to your Delve products to add to my game.

  • @noahghent8431
    @noahghent8431 14 годин тому

    Well done timing the spellcasting section EXACTLY one minute after you said "literally one minute" 😂

  • @GameMastersWorkshop
    @GameMastersWorkshop 8 годин тому

    The three pillars of D&D are Combat, Exploration and Roleplaying...
    Wizards kind of forgot that, and just trippled down on combat, with pages and pages of combat feats, spells, and abilities, all to sell books and make players feel powerful.
    Meanwhile roleplaying gets four general skills and a page and half of text that most DMs don't even read, and Exploration has been pretty much forgotten.
    Shadow Dark remembers the three pillars.
    It keeps the rules light and the characters moderate in power, so they can't just bulldoze their way through every encounter, and actually have to roleplay and think to survive.
    Shadowdark is prime example what D&D is supposed to be.

  • @mechlordomega
    @mechlordomega 20 годин тому

    I've been using Shadowdark for a bit, love the simplicity of it, For my character i have a Necromancer Vampire that uses a elixir potion to stay in day light for a few hrs a day ,we don't use spell checks tho, I have it where if they have basic spells they can keep using them if there more powerful they can only use them every 5 turns. & I do the forbidden & sacrilege DMPC, since there's only 2-3 in total usually in my games. One of campaigns my party were comically fighting over who would get a Silver Dagger has advantage over undead, after a Boss fight, Good Times.

  • @TrojanManSCP
    @TrojanManSCP 12 хвилин тому

    Spellcasting is the same ruleset at Five Torches Deep, another rules light fantasy system I’ve had a lot of great times with. 5TD is a bit less ‘heroic,’ more hazardous, so look into it and choose what you like.

  • @j.rinker4609
    @j.rinker4609 19 годин тому

    I like the idea that magic users can lose confidence in a particular spell, meaning they won't be able to cast it again for a while after failing once.

  • @francoisdumont4105
    @francoisdumont4105 7 годин тому

    I play shadowdark online and it has renewed my interest as a player. I'm looking forward to the french version coming soon.

  • @heathentongue
    @heathentongue 16 хвилин тому

    Great video! Now I want to play it! Random spells should be the norm! I started playing AD&D back in 79 and I thought they had just forgotten to put numbers by the spell lists! I made my own!

  • @jeffyork4021
    @jeffyork4021 День тому +1

    Great Open!

  • @Atmoseeker
    @Atmoseeker 16 годин тому

    Love me some Shadowdark... so good

  • @langwaters9653
    @langwaters9653 Годину тому

    After 45 years of DnD, it's Shadowdark for me.

  • @donwebster9292
    @donwebster9292 21 годину тому

    Trying to get into it this weekend.

  • @JMEPatterson
    @JMEPatterson 4 години тому

    This was a great video - thanks!

  • @hcpookie
    @hcpookie День тому

    Did that very thing with my SD character - hit "random", saved PDF, and have enjoyed one of the better characters I've ever played - Hrogar the Half-Orc ranger :)

  • @williamatkins3465
    @williamatkins3465 День тому +2

    Comment for the algorithm

  • @terrencemiltner1005
    @terrencemiltner1005 Годину тому

    "Well that'll never happen..." Bwah ha ha ha. Well played.

  • @dganim9196
    @dganim9196 23 години тому

    Great video Bob, Thanks.

  • @trynda1701
    @trynda1701 23 години тому

    Bob, beware low flying pamphlets in future recommendation videos!

  • @shanestapley3396
    @shanestapley3396 День тому

    Among the myriad things Shadowdark does better than 5e or Pathfinder, spellcasting is the absolute best. Spellcasters casting spells all the time instead of showing up, using a spell, and then wondering when they can rest again to get that spell back? It's SO good, especially for spells like Magic Missile where you cast with advantage, so the chances of not having that spell available are very low.
    Shadowdark is the best.

  • @AndrusPr8
    @AndrusPr8 День тому

    I still don't know how many pages of DnD spells enter in the Words "You can cast any fire-based spells".

  • @israelmorales4249
    @israelmorales4249 5 годин тому

    Thx for the video!
    I really need to give it a shoot to shadowdark

  • @andrewconners8601
    @andrewconners8601 День тому

    I jaut late-backed the Delve Kickstarter! Will I still receive a survey or link to a pledge manager website to finalize the order?

  • @jaybakata5566
    @jaybakata5566 23 години тому

    What spell did you use to levitate the Shadowdark quickstart rules?
    I love all Bob World Builder videos!
    Shadowdark is great however, I would love to see videos about your game Delve. Would really love to see some live play games of it as well. I keep searching the UA-cam but have not seen any yet.

  • @darksider111
    @darksider111 20 годин тому

    WOW This sounds like the Original D&D basic, the Red one that was released in the 80's, that was where i started playing - then got the first DnD advanced then did 3 & 3.5 and now Fifth edition
    Wow remembering the F*cked up stuff we did in Basic system - so cool
    Yes - Original DnD Nerd here

  • @colinmorton8074
    @colinmorton8074 4 години тому

    Thanks!
    Does anyone know if you could run something like ‘Dragon of Icespire peak’ with Shadowdark instead? Fairly new player, never GM’d, but would like to do so for my kids. Shadowdark seems simpler?

  • @dxtepes
    @dxtepes 19 годин тому

    You’ve sold me on shadowdark, but do you also have a video on how to streamline creating a 5e character?

  • @Grimmlocked
    @Grimmlocked День тому

    i'm running cyberpunk and we invited someone new to our group.... they came with a massive backstory and ideas about what they wanted to do.....
    I'm like... uh we're rolling random characters and doing this gig this week... pls lower your expectations while we fumble through learning this combat system and making dumb references to edgerunners....

  • @avengingblowfish9653
    @avengingblowfish9653 День тому +1

    I hate how you have to use the clickbaity "D&D" title and thumbnail, but I understand why it needs to be done. I volunteer for a program that teaches kids to play D&D at the local public libraries. I have told the organizer that I feel Shadowdark would be a much better game to teach to the kids, but I've been told that all the library cares about is that we get good turnout and teaching D&D gets much greater turnout than any other game that is advertised.

    • @happy-kh4uk
      @happy-kh4uk 23 години тому

      Just call it D&D but run Shadowdark lol. Apart from the name Shadowdark it’s still what the average person would think “D&D” is, maybe even more so since most popular media depicts an OSR-type game when they show it.