Great review. I love the idea of being able to run both types of drives. Awesome! Looks like hammerhead sells in-store only, so currently no shipping. Unless your in AL or close, your SOL. Too bad. This looks like a very interesting option for sure.
Man this was a good review of this kayak. Brother you are right I have not seen a kayak with the option to change the pedal drive. That's what I really like the most about this kayak. I also really like how light it is & the weight capacity that it can handle. With me being a big dude at 300 pounds I need a kayak that can handle me and my gear. I just wish they would make a wider pedal for people like me with extremely wide feet. My feet will not stay on a pedal that is 3 or 4 in wide & I know I can't be the only one out here with a wide foot. Well maybe the only one with a foot that is 6 inches wide. I like the rod holders up front & at a good price too. Thank you for doing this video brother. Hope everything is going well for you and you have a good weekend.
They sell this under bay sports here in Australia, they say the propeller drive is faster on their walk through video, but most other people are saying the fin drive is faster? Have you done a speed comparison on theae drives?
On that fin drive system, could you not rotate that adapter around to move the pedals closer to you? That would keep the seat position further back and better balance the boat for your weight.
Bay Sports in Australia has a new kayak: PEDAL PRO FISH - 3.6M PEDAL-POWERED FISHING KAYAK W/ MAXDRIVE 360. Dual drive via an easy to change drive system - buy it in either configuration and just add the other drive - one hull two drive options - who would have thought??
Great review! Supposed to pick up my Bull Shark on June 10th...I've never been on a pedal driven kayak before, so I'm excited and looking forward to trying it out. Stay safe!
Besides Hobie… what is the best premier kayak brand? I heard Old Town makes the best PDL drive system and the Old Town Salty PDL is the fastest pedal kayak made (although it’s not the most stable) with it’s sleek hull design
@@greg6162 Hobie established their position as "the best" way back when they were pretty much the only game in town for rotomolded kayaks. Nowadays, they're still the most recognized brand, but actually being "the best" could be debated. Old Town, Native, and Jackson, among others, have made tremendous strides in quality control and innovation while Hobie mostly rested on their laurels until fairly recently, finally introducing a reverse in some of their drives a few years ago and introducing new products like the Fiesta series more recently. Meanwhile, many other brands have at least caught up to Hobie in quality control, and in some cases surpassed them in innovation and hull design, for half the price. All that said and to answer your question, Old Town's Sportsman and Salty PDL's are REALLY nice boats, as is Native's Slayer and FeelFree's Lure...and, while still expensive, none of them are near what Hobie's cost. Stay safe!
@@lexwaldez Loving it! I still prefer the propeller drive because I mostly use it to fish stumpy lakes, but the fin drive gets its' share of play, too, and it's been growing on me! I stopped by Hammerhead last week and put my eyes and hands on the Whale Shark for the first time, too! It's pretty much an upsized next gen Bull Shark and it's a BEAST! 13' long, 37" wide, 605 lb weight capacity, 3 position adjustable seat, and an expandable rudder...I want one! Nathan, here at Southern Salt, did an on-the-water review of the Whale Shark, check it out! Stay Safe!
The slot for the trolling motor mount could also be a nice place to put a kayak cart. I would opt for one of those if they were available. Also does the seat have adjustable height? i thought i saw another hammerhead kayak that had 3 height adjustments.
I guess I missed it , on where to get one ? I like the cable glad that part is changed . I’m sidelined because my whatever they use for the rudder is broken on my Compass I sure hate that !
I have the same propeller prop for my Van Hunks Shad. I had to fill it with oil to get it to perform as good as my propeller driver on my Slayer Max. Vanhunks kayak also has interchangeable fin/propeller drive system. This kayak seems better because the Shad is only a 10'4" for 1600. I wish I would have seen this kayak a month ago
@@nathanfleming46 I was able to get the floor model for 1200 out the door, snatched it up quick fast...it's an absolutely awesome kayak, I have both drives for it (my fin drive is used 90% of the time) ..you can stand and fish even in choppy water or boat wakes, the kayak is stable as stable gets....in the ocean the hull stays 100% dry because every bolt and screw into the kayak goes into inlayed screw holes... I raised the seat 5 inches which is perfect, upgraded the rudder cables to stainless cable instead of Paracord (cost 8bucks) the smaller size allows it to turn on a dime after everything is adjusted correctly....
Riot kayaks have one that I have bin waiting for it's release , it's called the Mako 10 Versa which I think is on there website , I like the shorter kayaks for myself. Nice video by the way.
The 480 weight capacity includes the weight of the boat/drive. So 480 weight capacity minus ~87 for boat/drive and 280 for the person means you can bring 113lbs of gear. Unless you want to keep all the fish you catch in which case you may just want to keep it to 100 lbs.
I kind of forget, but I think if you take the weight capacity you have to subtract the weight of the yak. So 480 lb capacity less (let's call it 60 lbs) so 420 lbs to work with. Take 75% of that for certain self-baililng weight puts you at about 315 lbs self-bailing weight capacity which is very solid. Regarding stability that primary stability looks good. What's the secondary stability like? Is it all primary and zero secondary? Thank you for the great review. I hadn't heard of Hammerhead and it looks interesting. I wonder if a drive down to Alabama might not be a good idea to get a test paddle in if they offer them.
I feel like im watching a spin off of Talladega nights where Cal Noughton jr is selling me a kayak! all jokes aside, if i wasn't already happy with my hoodoo impulse 120, id get this just because of your review!
I heard the drive system is more expensive to maintain and isn’t as reliable as an Old Town PDL system… also the OT drive is more efficient for cruising speeds
Hey mate, love the review, we have a strikingly similar model here in Australia, likely from the same manufacturer. I noticed in your video you said the seat base covers part of the inspection hatch when you have it positioned comfortable for the flap drive to be used, just wondering are you about 6' tall? I am just working out my leg length and seat position whether if I can fit a decent cooler behind the seat, rather than in the rear most storage space behind the flush mount rod holders. I am on the cusp of buying one so appreciate any feedback. I am 6ft tall and 230lbs so thinking this might be perfect for my height and weight.
Great video! Did you try the prop drive for speed? Also, how does the prop drive sound? The drive on the first one you tested a few weeks back sure was noisy.
One of the best reviews I’ve seen yet. I don’t know how old this is, but Vanhunks has a tandem kayak, they offer prop or or pedal, but not that extra discount. Just from looks, this looks like a quality kayak? It’s got me wanting to consider this Kayak, thanks
WE had a customer come in recently that had a used 180 drive that came out of his old kayak. We tried it in the Bull Shark and yes it did fit and rotate.
Glad to see they have replaced the old plastic bottom pins to metal ones. So many companies that use the old Hobbie design use the plastic and have them break repeatedly. An obvious flaw that should be replaced. Awesome to see them fixing that flaw that other companies have not done yet.
Prop has instant reverse but lacks torque and requires a little more effort. Find do not have reverse but has more torque, and can get in shallower water.
Hobie AI Peddle,Paddle,Sail remove peddle drive drop in a Bixpy Jet and with the outriggers the most stable kayak out there,the best fishing kayak by far.
Your reviews are definitely my favorite. Love the authenticity, accent, and commentary. The ability to lay back and drink a beer sold me😂
lol right on man, I appreciate it 😂
Great review. I love the idea of being able to run both types of drives. Awesome! Looks like hammerhead sells in-store only, so currently no shipping. Unless your in AL or close, your SOL. Too bad. This looks like a very interesting option for sure.
I think Reel Yak can do pedal drive, fin drive and also will accept electric drive from hobie or another brand.
Wow! I’m glad I found your video, I’m contemplating of getting the feel free flash ... this could be my next kayak.
Awesome, glad it was helpful!
Great review! Been looking at these lately and this helped a ton. Headed down to check them out in a couple weeks. Coming from Missouri.
Wow that’s a long haul! I think you’ll like them!
I'd love to see a 1 yr followup review.
Man this was a good review of this kayak. Brother you are right I have not seen a kayak with the option to change the pedal drive. That's what I really like the most about this kayak. I also really like how light it is & the weight capacity that it can handle. With me being a big dude at 300 pounds I need a kayak that can handle me and my gear. I just wish they would make a wider pedal for people like me with extremely wide feet. My feet will not stay on a pedal that is 3 or 4 in wide & I know I can't be the only one out here with a wide foot. Well maybe the only one with a foot that is 6 inches wide. I like the rod holders up front & at a good price too. Thank you for doing this video brother. Hope everything is going well for you and you have a good weekend.
Thanks man all is well here. Hope all is well with you brother
@@southernsalt yes I am doing well brother thank you for asking. Just Trucking 🚛 really hard & trying to stay warm & trying to stay out of the snow.
@@southernsalt i
Hoodoo tempest
I think that’s cool. To have the fin for shallow river and have a propeller for lakes
They sell this under bay sports here in Australia, they say the propeller drive is faster on their walk through video, but most other people are saying the fin drive is faster? Have you done a speed comparison on theae drives?
On that fin drive system, could you not rotate that adapter around to move the pedals closer to you? That would keep the seat position further back and better balance the boat for your weight.
Awesome video! Can you make a video showing how to mount a fish finder with the transducer plate you mentioned.
Yeah I’ll see if I can’t make that happen!
Bay Sports in Australia has a new kayak:
PEDAL PRO FISH - 3.6M PEDAL-POWERED FISHING KAYAK W/ MAXDRIVE 360.
Dual drive via an easy to change drive system - buy it in either configuration and just add the other drive - one hull two drive options - who would have thought??
Great review! Supposed to pick up my Bull Shark on June 10th...I've never been on a pedal driven kayak before, so I'm excited and looking forward to trying it out. Stay safe!
Nice!
Besides Hobie… what is the best premier kayak brand? I heard Old Town makes the best PDL drive system and the Old Town Salty PDL is the fastest pedal kayak made (although it’s not the most stable) with it’s sleek hull design
@@greg6162 Hobie established their position as "the best" way back when they were pretty much the only game in town for rotomolded kayaks. Nowadays, they're still the most recognized brand, but actually being "the best" could be debated. Old Town, Native, and Jackson, among others, have made tremendous strides in quality control and innovation while Hobie mostly rested on their laurels until fairly recently, finally introducing a reverse in some of their drives a few years ago and introducing new products like the Fiesta series more recently. Meanwhile, many other brands have at least caught up to Hobie in quality control, and in some cases surpassed them in innovation and hull design, for half the price. All that said and to answer your question, Old Town's Sportsman and Salty PDL's are REALLY nice boats, as is Native's Slayer and FeelFree's Lure...and, while still expensive, none of them are near what Hobie's cost. Stay safe!
@DEADorALIVEkayaking how has the Hammerhead worked out over the last year?
@@lexwaldez Loving it! I still prefer the propeller drive because I mostly use it to fish stumpy lakes, but the fin drive gets its' share of play, too, and it's been growing on me! I stopped by Hammerhead last week and put my eyes and hands on the Whale Shark for the first time, too! It's pretty much an upsized next gen Bull Shark and it's a BEAST! 13' long, 37" wide, 605 lb weight capacity, 3 position adjustable seat, and an expandable rudder...I want one! Nathan, here at Southern Salt, did an on-the-water review of the Whale Shark, check it out! Stay Safe!
The slot for the trolling motor mount could also be a nice place to put a kayak cart. I would opt for one of those if they were available. Also does the seat have adjustable height? i thought i saw another hammerhead kayak that had 3 height adjustments.
I guess you can also put an outrigger pole in that groove for the trolling motor?
Vanhunks kayaks also have option to change drives
Reel yaks too
HooDoo has one as well. I own one
And the vibe shearwater then Vibe also has another kayak that does it
I guess I missed it , on where to get one ? I like the cable glad that part is changed . I’m sidelined because my whatever they use for the rudder is broken on my Compass I sure hate that !
This is sold through Yellowhammer fishing in Theodore.
@@southernsalt thanks
Nice kayak! Great video. Just wondering if those cables and hardware are stainless ?? Saltwater friendly
I have the same propeller prop for my Van Hunks Shad. I had to fill it with oil to get it to perform as good as my propeller driver on my Slayer Max. Vanhunks kayak also has interchangeable fin/propeller drive system. This kayak seems better because the Shad is only a 10'4" for 1600. I wish I would have seen this kayak a month ago
Dang! Yeah this one seems pretty solid, I’m looking forward to getting on some redfish in it.
I love my shad, 10'4 is absolutely perfect size and the shad is probably one of the most stable kayaks out there... I got mine for 1200 tho
@@theloosemoose8200 been looking into one of those myself where did you go to get that screaming deal
@@nathanfleming46 I was able to get the floor model for 1200 out the door, snatched it up quick fast...it's an absolutely awesome kayak, I have both drives for it (my fin drive is used 90% of the time) ..you can stand and fish even in choppy water or boat wakes, the kayak is stable as stable gets....in the ocean the hull stays 100% dry because every bolt and screw into the kayak goes into inlayed screw holes... I raised the seat 5 inches which is perfect, upgraded the rudder cables to stainless cable instead of Paracord (cost 8bucks) the smaller size allows it to turn on a dime after everything is adjusted correctly....
Hey, I fished there yesterday! I must’ve just missed ya
Some good features on that yak and at a great price.
Thanks for sharing! Will a 6ft person fit fine on this kayak?
Definitely.
Check out hoodoo kayaks they have some that can do both drives
Great price to add an extra drive. Awesome review.
Thanks man yeah that’s a heck of a good price!
Riot kayaks have one that I have bin waiting for it's release , it's called the Mako 10 Versa which I think is on there website , I like the shorter kayaks for myself. Nice video by the way.
Thanks man!
The 480 weight capacity includes the weight of the boat/drive. So 480 weight capacity minus ~87 for boat/drive and 280 for the person means you can bring 113lbs of gear. Unless you want to keep all the fish you catch in which case you may just want to keep it to 100 lbs.
Great thorough review!
🙌 thank you!
I kind of forget, but I think if you take the weight capacity you have to subtract the weight of the yak. So 480 lb capacity less (let's call it 60 lbs) so 420 lbs to work with. Take 75% of that for certain self-baililng weight puts you at about 315 lbs self-bailing weight capacity which is very solid. Regarding stability that primary stability looks good. What's the secondary stability like? Is it all primary and zero secondary? Thank you for the great review. I hadn't heard of Hammerhead and it looks interesting. I wonder if a drive down to Alabama might not be a good idea to get a test paddle in if they offer them.
Hoodoo Impulse dual drive can take fin or prop drives. they came out back in 2020.
Didn’t know that, thanks!
Are you going to do a review of the hammerhead spinner shark?
I like the instant reverse of props, but at 52 pounds I might have to convert.
I do plan on doing a review.
Good review. Peaked my interest. Who make s the kayak and what model is it?
It’s the hammerhead kayaks Bull Shark. I put the info to the dealer in the description
I feel like im watching a spin off of Talladega nights where Cal Noughton jr is selling me a kayak! all jokes aside, if i wasn't already happy with my hoodoo impulse 120, id get this just because of your review!
😂
Great review. We’re like in size so I’ll stick with my PA 14. May look into something like that for my grandkids to use
I think they would love it!
I heard the drive system is more expensive to maintain and isn’t as reliable as an Old Town PDL system… also the OT drive is more efficient for cruising speeds
Reel yaks does the same and has a trolling motor transom too.
Never heard of that one
@@southernsalt they are sold on Amazon and there own website. I think the industry is expanding.
i want one really bad but i don't know if it's available overseas .
Yeah I don’t think it is.
Hey mate, love the review, we have a strikingly similar model here in Australia, likely from the same manufacturer. I noticed in your video you said the seat base covers part of the inspection hatch when you have it positioned comfortable for the flap drive to be used, just wondering are you about 6' tall? I am just working out my leg length and seat position whether if I can fit a decent cooler behind the seat, rather than in the rear most storage space behind the flush mount rod holders. I am on the cusp of buying one so appreciate any feedback. I am 6ft tall and 230lbs so thinking this might be perfect for my height and weight.
Hoodoo impulse has this option. Your video is better though! Will the mirage drive fit in?
Thanks man I didn’t know that! I believe it will fit.
Great video! Did you try the prop drive for speed? Also, how does the prop drive sound? The drive on the first one you tested a few weeks back sure was noisy.
I didn’t do a speed and noise test with the prop. It’s the same system in the last review I did.
@@southernsalt Thanks!
I can’t find out how to buy one? Nothing online?
I like to buy the fin drive set.. what store or online so that i can order it sir. Pls help me sir.. thank you..
The whale shark can be swapped over also.
Does propeller pedal drive go faster
I wished I knew that before I bought my Jackson bite fd lol
One of the best reviews I’ve seen yet. I don’t know how old this is, but Vanhunks has a tandem kayak, they offer prop or or pedal, but not that extra discount. Just from looks, this looks like a quality kayak? It’s got me wanting to consider this Kayak, thanks
Awesome, I’m glad you found it helpful!
Do the fins kick up like Hobie n pop back down once you start to pedal. Nice kayak great price …beats 5 grand
Kick up fins only come on Hobies.
@@southernsalt those sure a plus …wonder if a Hobie Drive would fit
Hello there do you know where can i buy one of this kayaks also do you know if they make a 10 or 11 ft kayak
Where to buy the prop style peddle drive?
Hammerhead kayaks
@@southernsalt great! This was a great informative video. I will probably be getting one of these kayaks. Thanks for the info!
Thanks man!
Sir you think a hobie mirage drive will fit in that fin base attachment?
I’m not a 100 percent but I think so
Sounds good! How much to ship FL?
I have searched everywhere to find where are they made? Does anyone know?
It’s in the description
Strange. I still don't see anything in description about where it is made.
Reel yaks has this too
Vanhunks does this too.
Good deal
My question is can you fit a 180 hobie drive in there
Not sure on that one
WE had a customer come in recently that had a used 180 drive that came out of his old kayak. We tried it in the Bull Shark and yes it did fit and rotate.
The price on these kayaks seems like a great deal hoping to get one soon
Man they are pretty good considering what you get for it.
@@southernsalt how much?
Vanhunks let's you change between, fin drive, pedal drive, or electric motor.
Ok
Great review.
Thank you!!
Isn't there a Mirage drive that has a reverse option?
Hobie's has reverse, but I doubt it fits other kayaks.
Would they perform alright in semi rough waters
I’ll be putting a few to the test soon and putting some videos out.
Glad to see they have replaced the old plastic bottom pins to metal ones. So many companies that use the old Hobbie design use the plastic and have them break repeatedly. An obvious flaw that should be replaced. Awesome to see them fixing that flaw that other companies have not done yet.
Awesome
🙌
Hoodoo kayaks have the dual drive sysytem
Questions -
Prop vs Fin? Educate me please.
Buying - In store or do they ship them?
Thank You Sir !
Prop has instant reverse but lacks torque and requires a little more effort.
Find do not have reverse but has more torque, and can get in shallower water.
Thank you sir! And for the prompt response!!
Definitely see a lot a value for that price range!
Agree!
Just noticed the name change! Always great videos.
Yeah just wanted to sound more inclusive to the boat and bank guys lol
@@southernsalt what did your name used to be ?
that's the same as the reel yak 12' ranger.
Which drive is better in shallow water ?
Fin style drive is best suited in shallow water.
What speed app are you using on your phone
Speedometer
@@southernsalt ok thanks
Will a hobie drive snap in?
I haven’t tried it but I believe so.
Yep, already done. Hoodoo kayaks.
I the fins would reverse and kick up if I hit a log I'd have bought two.
Unfortunately Hobie owns the patent for all the thing’s mentioned lol
Too bad we can’t get this in the upper Midwest.
Maybe soon
Excellent Kayak….slow shipping in my case.
Wow I love these Bullshark Kayaks I just picked one up at the retailer in Kentucky!!! lol just joking it say in store pickup at Alabama only :(
Where in Kentucky?
Should have read to the end
I got here a month late and now it looks like they're sold out of anything with a pedal drive. I guess I'm always late for the party.
that kayak is currently sold out
Makes a good pee hole when take the drive plate out lol.
🤣
My vanhunks shad can do it
Good to know.
Hobie AI Peddle,Paddle,Sail remove peddle drive drop in a Bixpy Jet and with the outriggers the most stable kayak out there,the best fishing kayak by far.
too bad it looks like they only sell at the store and do not ship.
KAYAK WILL NOT HOLD MORE THAN 250 LBS SAFELY!
Looks good though
Looks rotomolded too sweet yak.
It is!
made in china
Hahaha 399 for reverse. 99 for a paddle.