The studies have shown that a localized injection close to an injury or source of pain is no more effective than a standard subcutaneous site (abdomen, upper arm, upper thigh). It is a systemic effect, not a local one and has to be absorbed into the blood stream.
False. Name these studies then. Of course you cannot. There's not a single human medical study comparing these things. In horses, where local vs systemic has been tested, local injections were far more effective. You read information on a site selling peptides and decided to make shit up. Studies show 🤦
This is patently false. No such studies exist in humans period. There's studies on horses, and they show localized is better. Why make stuff like this up? Or did you confuse a blurb on a peptides website with " scientific research".
I just had shoulder surgery on march 1st for multiple labrum tears and a major slap tear. Where should my injection site be since my surgery was so recent?
@@scott2228 "around" will result in it getting taken up in the bloodstream. At that point your better of taken BPC orally and saving yourself the hassle of a localized injection
@@TsabaronSecronthere is a huge difference between injecting and ingesting. Your digestive tract doesn’t just absorb large peptides. Peptides are chains of amino acids. Your body uses proteases to digest them, breaking them down into individual amino acids or smaller peptide chains. When you digest BPC 157 it is no longer BPC 157 but a bunch of amino acids. That’s why you need to inject. Oral bpc 157 is for treating gut issues it’s completely inferior to injection if youre treating an injury
Just saw another peptide clinic video on BPC157 and how to administer and he stated that local subcutaneous is the same effectiveness as taking orally but it will hit blood stream and be processed by body based on perceived areas that need healing which in your video here may not be that tendon. The injection method that he specified does allow bpc to work locally at the injection site is when its injected to a joint capsule. Not sure about tendons and ligaments.
I have multiple injuries and have just started using bpc 157. The first injury I'm trying to treat is the tendon in my elbow, doing subcutaneous injections there has dramatically improved it over the course of about 10 days and hasn't effected other injury spots just yet. This makes me think the location you inject does make a difference. I'll know for sure when I start treating a rotator cuff injury in my shoulder.
@@CKarmorr I'm dealing with bad tennis elbow bilaterally, I was considering bpc-157 and tb-500 Can you tell me how you inject it into your elbow? Do you do it just straight into the muscle?
@@simmonsaustin1 You can inject it straight into the muscle, though my pain was directly in the middle of the elbow so I preferred injecting under the skin (subcutaneous). I can tell you now it worked, after about 14 days the pain had gone and now I can move and exercise pain free. Now I am treating a shoulder rotator cuff injury (also subcutaneous injections) that I've had for about 15 years and again, after 2 weeks I've gotten substantial improvement. I wasn't able to touch my hands behind my back on the one side, now I can do both, still some pain when doing it but I was nowhere close before, I'd have more pain while being nowhere near where I can touch now. Long story short location matters from my experience. How I injected it right into the middle under the skin of my elbow was to create a skin tent and then shoot the injection into the middle or lower part of that tent. By yourself this is near impossible, because the hand injecting cannot make the skin tent. What I did was use a clothes peg and wrapped some string around the middle of it that I could pull on with the hand on the same side as the injury. So I would swab the peg where it was going to make contact with my skin and the area of the skin where I would inject. Then I'd make the skin tent by sticking the peg on the skin of my elbow and pulling on the string and while holding it I would then inject it. The first time I did it I didn't push the needle in far enough, and when I injected it created a ball of fluid under the skin kind of like a hard blister. I massaged it gently with a bit of pressure using the alcohol swab it and it gradually worked its way around and then there was no longer any visible lump nor could I feel it. It happened again once when I was injecting my delt. So if that does ever happen to you don't panic it's nothing bad. But I always message it a little even when I inject it properly where I can no longer feel the lump. I don't know if it's necessary but for me I want to disperse it around as much of the spot as possible so it can cover the injury site and this seems to work for me great.
I do not see how a subutaneous injection would allow the peptide to cross through the tendon sheath into the tendon. I also do not understand why no one has figured out how to use in situ hydrogels to slow release peptides over many hours to 1) provide sustained exposure to the peptide 2) provide selective exposure of the peptide to the injured area and 3) provide a stable depot for the peptide to resist degradation until release into the tissue
Does anyone know what the dosage would be for an intramuscular injection? I have a 5mg bottle of BPC and I mixed 2.5ml of static water in it… I am looking to use a 3ml syringe for the intramuscular injection. Thanks in advance!
Ive had biceps tendonitis at the point where bicep attaches to shoulder..pain for past few 4 months..started bpc at the pain site less than week ago and the pain is about 90% better. Its amazing honestly
This certainly wasn’t good technique. You contaminated the bottle before the withdrawal and contaminate the injection site before you were ready to inject
@@Catalonia My ortho said sub q injections are fine, but I can do intramuscular if I choose to. However, he said localized injections aren't necessary bc the peptide doesn't do anything on its own. It works by signaling your receptors to turn on which then uses your body's natural repair system to activate/go into overdrive to heal your injury. TLDR: it doesn't matter where you inject it lol
Just curios. All research regarding location of he injection suggests there is no difference at all injecting at the source of the pain/injury or in the belly fat... It all goes into the blood stream regardless of location of injection...Why do yo perpetuate this myth? Sales I imagine.
Could she have laid down on the table and you stood up to give the injection lol looks like a really uncomfortable position to stand in while receiving an injection.
Next time could you do this type of video at a lower resolution?
No shit eh! 😂
He borrowed Zapruder's old camera. The injection is frame 305 - 315.
Zoom out a little more too
Thanks for the educational video. Could you do one explaining how to to give a self injection for BPC 157 in the foot near the metatarsals?
One for how to inject the knee would be so useful. Thank you for this service
Did u find one ? I need it in my knee I been putting in my butt and back and belly so far
Pinch the skin on the knee and inject into the skin SubQ. Not directly into the knee.
@@thedoroughfamilyhave you seen the improvement in your knee overall even not injecting directly into the knee?
Has it worked?@@thedoroughfamily
The studies have shown that a localized injection close to an injury or source of pain is no more effective than a standard subcutaneous site (abdomen, upper arm, upper thigh). It is a systemic effect, not a local one and has to be absorbed into the blood stream.
I Don't believe it. For me it's always worked better being closest to the site
@@snakepliskin2297it makes more sense as well.
False. Name these studies then. Of course you cannot. There's not a single human medical study comparing these things.
In horses, where local vs systemic has been tested, local injections were far more effective.
You read information on a site selling peptides and decided to make shit up. Studies show 🤦
This is patently false. No such studies exist in humans period.
There's studies on horses, and they show localized is better.
Why make stuff like this up? Or did you confuse a blurb on a peptides website with " scientific research".
@@snakepliskin2297Yeah, he made it up. There's no studies showing this.
This is definitely Seth Rogan talking
Doesnt sound like him at all
It sounds like him, however This man is FARRRR too smart to be that moroon
That doesn't sound like him at all🤔 Rogan with that Rediculous Nasty Ass Laugh he constantly interrupts himself with,nah not him
Hey guys - you mentioned uploading a video for the self-injection to the knee. Was it uploaded? Please sure the link.
V helpful video, thank you! How often do you administer the injection? Daily or weekly?
Is it safe to inject it right into the muscle?
Can you recommend a trustworthy reliable source for BPC-157 ?
How many mg per ml did you reconstitute so we know what the .2ml has? How often should you inject at injury site?
Since no one replied to this, I’m assuming it’s 5mg standard of bpc, and he reconstituted in a diff video with 6mL
Did anyone find out how many micro grams of BPC157 are in this 0.2ml ?
This is really not good technique, it certainly wasn’t sterile. You contaminated the bottle and you contaminate the injection site.
@@stevemarshall_ukyou should take your dosage based on your weight. Use standard ChatGPT and he will set up your dosage perfectly 👍
Where can I find the self injection video? I'm new to injecting ..
Thank you for sharing this video
What was the full protocol? 2cc 1 or 2 x per day? Then 1 shot per day for another 2 weeks?
What was the cost of this treatment?
I just had shoulder surgery on march 1st for multiple labrum tears and a major slap tear. Where should my injection site be since my surgery was so recent?
Going for shoulder surgery. How to inject for shoulder ?
Good info but don't you have to strirlize the area with alcohol first?
He did do that.
Dr is it safe to inject directly into the Tendon ?
Also can this be used for Tendon tears ?
Everything I’ve read said not recommended. Everything says “around.”
@@scott2228 "around" will result in it getting taken up in the bloodstream. At that point your better of taken BPC orally and saving yourself the hassle of a localized injection
@@TsabaronSecronthere is a huge difference between injecting and ingesting. Your digestive tract doesn’t just absorb large peptides. Peptides are chains of amino acids. Your body uses proteases to digest them, breaking them down into individual amino acids or smaller peptide chains. When you digest BPC 157 it is no longer BPC 157 but a bunch of amino acids. That’s why you need to inject. Oral bpc 157 is for treating gut issues it’s completely inferior to injection if youre treating an injury
Would it speed up healing after Achilles tendon full rupture?
Just saw another peptide clinic video on BPC157 and how to administer and he stated that local subcutaneous is the same effectiveness as taking orally but it will hit blood stream and be processed by body based on perceived areas that need healing which in your video here may not be that tendon. The injection method that he specified does allow bpc to work locally at the injection site is when its injected to a joint capsule. Not sure about tendons and ligaments.
I have multiple injuries and have just started using bpc 157. The first injury I'm trying to treat is the tendon in my elbow, doing subcutaneous injections there has dramatically improved it over the course of about 10 days and hasn't effected other injury spots just yet. This makes me think the location you inject does make a difference. I'll know for sure when I start treating a rotator cuff injury in my shoulder.
@@CKarmorr I'm dealing with bad tennis elbow bilaterally, I was considering bpc-157 and tb-500 Can you tell me how you inject it into your elbow? Do you do it just straight into the muscle?
@@simmonsaustin1 You can inject it straight into the muscle, though my pain was directly in the middle of the elbow so I preferred injecting under the skin (subcutaneous). I can tell you now it worked, after about 14 days the pain had gone and now I can move and exercise pain free. Now I am treating a shoulder rotator cuff injury (also subcutaneous injections) that I've had for about 15 years and again, after 2 weeks I've gotten substantial improvement. I wasn't able to touch my hands behind my back on the one side, now I can do both, still some pain when doing it but I was nowhere close before, I'd have more pain while being nowhere near where I can touch now. Long story short location matters from my experience.
How I injected it right into the middle under the skin of my elbow was to create a skin tent and then shoot the injection into the middle or lower part of that tent. By yourself this is near impossible, because the hand injecting cannot make the skin tent. What I did was use a clothes peg and wrapped some string around the middle of it that I could pull on with the hand on the same side as the injury. So I would swab the peg where it was going to make contact with my skin and the area of the skin where I would inject. Then I'd make the skin tent by sticking the peg on the skin of my elbow and pulling on the string and while holding it I would then inject it.
The first time I did it I didn't push the needle in far enough, and when I injected it created a ball of fluid under the skin kind of like a hard blister. I massaged it gently with a bit of pressure using the alcohol swab it and it gradually worked its way around and then there was no longer any visible lump nor could I feel it. It happened again once when I was injecting my delt. So if that does ever happen to you don't panic it's nothing bad. But I always message it a little even when I inject it properly where I can no longer feel the lump. I don't know if it's necessary but for me I want to disperse it around as much of the spot as possible so it can cover the injury site and this seems to work for me great.
there is no way to this peptide will have similar bioavailablity adminstered orally as parenterally
@@CKarmorr where do you inject for the elbow tendon? Dealing with a similar issue
for my shoulder issue is it best to inject into shoulder muscle or into abdomen ??
Thats exactly what i need and exactly where and why i need it.
I haven’t found any study that shows a better result at direct sight inject. Can you reference why you are doing that
Because he wants to look smart
I do not see how a subutaneous injection would allow the peptide to cross through the tendon sheath into the tendon. I also do not understand why no one has figured out how to use in situ hydrogels to slow release peptides over many hours to 1) provide sustained exposure to the peptide 2) provide selective exposure of the peptide to the injured area and 3) provide a stable depot for the peptide to resist degradation until release into the tissue
This works orally just as good.
@@sncnutrition7118 Nope.
Greetings, is the 20iu dose every day? or every how many days?
I have this same injury and feeling desperate. PT just isn’t working
could you do one on the wrist?
Hello !
Did you folks make that self video?
How long will one of the little bottles last? Do I need to buy a few to last me a month??
Where would you inject for plantar fasciitis??
i would try the foot
Can I keep running after the injection?
One for the hip please i don't know where i can inject
This video looks like it was shot on a razr flip phone.
Wheres this knee injection video u speak of
I gotta do it to my thumb and big toe!
And hips, lower back, neck and hamstring lol.
Does anyone know what the dosage would be for an intramuscular injection? I have a 5mg bottle of BPC and I mixed 2.5ml of static water in it… I am looking to use a 3ml syringe for the intramuscular injection. Thanks in advance!
ask your physician
what kind of needle do i need?
Can you inject into two places on the same day? I have a knee and an Achilles issue. Thank you
Yes .06 in the morning and .06 at night
If i have tendinitis in both Achilles do i inject both?
I would do both
try to inject as close as possible to the injured area
Kaycee Bridge
.2ml tells us nothing. What’s important is the actual mg of bp-157 you’re injecting.
Thank you for the video but 240p? I'm an engineer not a doctor dammit Jim I need to see! :)
was this recorded with a nokia brick phone
Getting it next to the pain point has no effect when it’s a Subcutaneous administration. This has been shown.
Ortiz Centers
No gloves?
Using a lady's plastic hair clip works well.
The large plastic clip with teeth
your supposed to clean the vial before drawing it up, especially when youve been touching it with your dirty hands
i has an injurey in my biceps ...shoul i inject like insulline under skin in stomech area ? or intramusculer in biceps direct ?
Ive had biceps tendonitis at the point where bicep attaches to shoulder..pain for past few 4 months..started bpc at the pain site less than week ago and the pain is about 90% better. Its amazing honestly
Everything I've been taught is only subcutaneous not intramuscular
@@Radioghost717 Did you inject your bicep subq or intra-muscular?
This certainly wasn’t good technique. You contaminated the bottle before the withdrawal and contaminate the injection site before you were ready to inject
I thought this was just as effective systemically now, so why do it locally?
i've read it's good for gastrointestinal problems when taken oraly.
Did you ever get any more info on this?
@@mike9483 nope. I really don't think anyone knows
@@Catalonia I see my ortho tomorrow for my follow up from achilles surgery 2 weeks ago. I'll ask him and let you know what he says.
@@Catalonia My ortho said sub q injections are fine, but I can do intramuscular if I choose to. However, he said localized injections aren't necessary bc the peptide doesn't do anything on its own. It works by signaling your receptors to turn on which then uses your body's natural repair system to activate/go into overdrive to heal your injury. TLDR: it doesn't matter where you inject it lol
Kling Inlet
The video is too blurry. I can't see how much you medicine you pulled out of the vial.
250 mcg x2/day
20units - he said
Why aren't you wearing sterile gloves?
Just curios. All research regarding location of he injection suggests there is no difference at all injecting at the source of the pain/injury or in the belly fat...
It all goes into the blood stream regardless of location of injection...Why do yo perpetuate this myth? Sales I imagine.
Could she have laid down on the table and you stood up to give the injection lol looks like a really uncomfortable position to stand in while receiving an injection.
Doesn't this have the potential for causing cancer?
Why?
not unless you know what cancer really is.
No