Forza Horizon 3 HOW TO DRIFT For Beginners

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  • @MikeGSK
    @MikeGSK 8 років тому +190

    Forza is so hard man, as a beginner i'm trying so hard to get better because it's such a cool game but DAMN
    For someone who's never played this game, cornering is so hard! i'll either not start slowing down even nearly enough, understeer, or just completely spin out once i put the gas back on when i come out the corner! jesus man

    • @sdb87149
      @sdb87149 8 років тому +4

      Michael McGrory The driving line is super helpful. I suggest playing with it on full

    • @osnelaguilar9910
      @osnelaguilar9910 8 років тому +9

      Michael McGrory i also suggest driving with manuel because its easier to lower your speed than using automatic.

    • @cristophermarcia8926
      @cristophermarcia8926 7 років тому +9

      Michael McGrory i feel you bro i just got this game and its soo hard driving right

    • @ironmatrixs748
      @ironmatrixs748 7 років тому +3

      Michael McGrory the second horizon was nothing like this it was so much easier to make turns, I think they focus more on drifting then actual turns because the centanario can not turn for shit

    • @jumpsliding
      @jumpsliding 7 років тому

      Yea im pretty noobie at this game too.

  • @tech_mando4952
    @tech_mando4952 4 роки тому +45

    I remember watching this along time ago when I watched this guy and thought he was good at drifting now he looks like me about the second day of me drifting

    • @TheDigitalAtlas
      @TheDigitalAtlas 3 роки тому +3

      Playing the game now and this didn't help me at all. No one is just talking about which buttons to press and when. I'm trying to trick drift bucket list and challenge so I can't do shit to improve its build. Like "ebrake, clutch in (I'm driving automatic), a little bit of gas, and save it (this doesn't mean anything to me???). Would love any recommendations

    • @SuperWillywonka101
      @SuperWillywonka101 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheDigitalAtlas well man i say switch to manual, and what i learned was throttle, get off and use the ebrake and then hold throttle nd counter steer

    • @Zinbou1
      @Zinbou1 3 роки тому +2

      so who's video should i watch to learn how to drift ?

  • @CvilleThunder29
    @CvilleThunder29 8 років тому +268

    Lol driving on the left side is messing with you too

    • @carreragt8516
      @carreragt8516 8 років тому +32

      Same! I'm from UK and we drive on left but 99% of games are on the right, it's v hard to adjust

    • @sambarlow6038
      @sambarlow6038 8 років тому +6

      I drive on the left on all games

    • @remybatista6135
      @remybatista6135 8 років тому

      +Sam Barlow yo from UJ

    • @remybatista6135
      @remybatista6135 8 років тому

      +Sam Barlow UK

    • @remybatista6135
      @remybatista6135 8 років тому

      +Sam Barlow OH I SEE XD

  • @vonglizz99
    @vonglizz99 7 років тому +37

    PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster 8 років тому +15

    How to start drifting in Forza.
    1. A RWD car
    2. A setup with at least 100HP for every 1000 pounds.
    3. A locked differential, preferably both accel and decel, but accel locking is mandatory [Needs race Diff]
    4. Manual with clutch
    5. The highest upgraded suspension, transmission, and braking components that you CAN'T fully tune and therefore get confused with or obsess about. I believe this is usually 'sport' for most things, since the only other option higher as far as I know is 'race' which is fully tunable and complicated for new drivers. Also, anything that doesn't add power and doesn't have complex full tuning capabilities can go ahead and be upgraded to full race. Such as the flywheel, driveshaft, clutch, etc.
    Thoughts, guys?

    • @ryandontworey1799
      @ryandontworey1799 8 років тому

      Yeah kind of weird he made a tutorial for a game thats not out yet haha harder to drift the cars in the demo cause they dont have alot of hp or torque

    • @Valdarious
      @Valdarious 8 років тому

      As I stated an a comment above, I use manual but not with clutch and I use AWD while tuning the differential to put more power to the rear of the car. Makes the drifts smoother for me and it also almost guarantees that you will never spin out. The only problem with doing this is the car is going to need a little bit more power but I don't any issues with this.

    • @Drunken_Hamster
      @Drunken_Hamster 8 років тому

      Valdarious I would always swap a car to AWD rather than leaving it RWD or FWD for the simple ability to tune the front to rear power bias.
      I could make it a full RWD drift car, or anywhere from a 60% front and 40% rear to 30% front and 70% rear gymkhana car, all the way to a 25/75 up to a 10/90 'recovery drive' rear bias drifter.

    • @benjaminmayfield6954
      @benjaminmayfield6954 8 років тому +2

      if yall cant drift with a rwd car then you shouldnt be drifting.

  • @DragonofRune
    @DragonofRune 7 років тому +1

    Only thing missing in this video is the most important tip. When you get tired of drivatards slamming into you every drift section you try. Go to private free roam online and behold no more drivatards. Traffic is still there but barely.

  • @Newa113
    @Newa113 8 років тому +15

    This video was for me, last driving game I took seriously was need for speed underground 2, glad to see I can still get my RX-8

    • @ag052
      @ag052 8 років тому +1

      Thomas Oakheart yea

    • @brandonjohns6521
      @brandonjohns6521 4 роки тому

      Need for speed was overrated

    • @dragooss3815
      @dragooss3815 3 роки тому

      @@brandonjohns6521 nah need for speed series was a masterpiece just because it was our childhood activity

  • @dropback_vari2439
    @dropback_vari2439 5 років тому +4

    Thanks so much I got better at drifting in like 2 hours because of this tutorial👍🏾

  • @aeroluster2689
    @aeroluster2689 6 років тому +2

    I usually drift using brake drifting (Just as Tsuchiya himself teaches it) or shift lock clutch kicking. I'll also mix both sometimes for more angle in a dire situation. Sadly, I'm still a huge beginner though and am too stubborn to go back to the e-brake because it's a starter technique. As a little treat, basically to initiate it is crucial knowing when to brake, how hard to brake, how long to brake, when to downshift, and how much to throttle on exit depending on your car. Lower horsepower cars typically allow more throttle flooring on exit. To shift lock drift you basically time your braking just like the brake drift, downshift or upshift and punch the clutch again. (When to downshift or upshift on entry heavily relies the type of corner and the speed of your car + line of entry.) I hope this was interesting but I could be flat out wrong, I always accept feedback. I need to improve my drifting significantly so it would always help to get nice tips.

  • @SHADOWBLADE239
    @SHADOWBLADE239 6 років тому

    Gotta say man this video taught me how to drift in 2018. Me and my twin got our drift skills from the big loop on the top right in horizon 3 and then the city your in in this video and were all ready to go in a months time with our new skills for horizon 4

  • @scottbillibob2794
    @scottbillibob2794 8 років тому

    i have played forza horizon, FH2 and now i have FH3 but i can't drift for crap, i don't even know how to tune cars i am only good at races and this helped me out a lot

  • @ultralungs
    @ultralungs 8 років тому +3

    Thanks tom, really am trying to get into drifting on forza

  • @KatsuNoJutsu
    @KatsuNoJutsu 6 років тому +2

    Great video! I love how you kept the instructions simple for someone like me who didn’t know how to execute a drift (except by throwing the car into a corner at speed XD) I am have improved greatly to execute a drift on command! Thank you.

  • @Wachenroder326
    @Wachenroder326 8 років тому +238

    Why are you making a tutorial for beginners when you're still a beginner

    • @21burnz
      @21burnz 8 років тому +21

      he has no idea what he is doing trying to teach other people, its like im in highschool all over again lmao

    • @juanlo4632
      @juanlo4632 8 років тому

      he is a-bo satsukawa

    • @Bopkwon
      @Bopkwon 7 років тому +21

      Swiss .326, he has played every forza Horizon game. He's teaching us for those people new to Forza.

    • @kristinbelland3021
      @kristinbelland3021 7 років тому +3

      Swiss .326 exposed

    • @2JZLS
      @2JZLS 7 років тому

      if only you could turbo the 4 rotor it'd sound like a jet

  • @trevor4521
    @trevor4521 8 років тому +76

    this dude is just holding the e-brake around the corners, thats not drifting sorry to say

    • @VNTRFilms
      @VNTRFilms 8 років тому +16

      True. Or just slam the ebrake and let the car slide and full throttle, because rev limiter is banging.

    • @lulm8767
      @lulm8767 8 років тому +4

      Trevor Tokach so what is??

    • @tiituspuskala3960
      @tiituspuskala3960 8 років тому +21

      FP. He first kicks e-brake then quickly kicks clutch and then he throttles. Thats how you drift in real life too.

    • @trevor4521
      @trevor4521 8 років тому +1

      Lul M8 holding the ebrake in corners? come on kid

    • @neoxshuffl
      @neoxshuffl 8 років тому +2

      e-braking at corners makes it stop faster than normal brake and you can turn with e-brake to drift farther except the normal drift is harder. smart one

  • @Xb0x_XR
    @Xb0x_XR 4 роки тому

    I just got forza horizon 3 and I'm here because I was driving my general lee and drifted it around the roundabout

  • @mihailchichevski3669
    @mihailchichevski3669 8 років тому +199

    how to drift ? bro its forza you can drift a honda civic type r fwd xD

    • @drifter8164
      @drifter8164 8 років тому +18

      no u cant

    • @DevArts
      @DevArts 8 років тому

      Yea you can, its so funny

    • @nickkiefriter4874
      @nickkiefriter4874 8 років тому

      Exactly

    • @forzalife9270
      @forzalife9270 8 років тому +3

      You can drift a honda in real life if you are good

    • @DevArts
      @DevArts 8 років тому +12

      JDM IS LIFE No you can't lol

  • @FineW_TurboM111
    @FineW_TurboM111 8 років тому

    In the demo. Set the damage and tyre wear to simulation, this allows the cars that doesnt have much power to wear out the tires and lessen the grip. Be aware tho, if you run out of fuel, you will not be able to reset it to none and have a normal working car if you dont start a race or something.

    • @Zeno617
      @Zeno617 8 років тому

      Is there going to be fuel stations that actually work?

    • @Clintandlouis
      @Clintandlouis 8 років тому

      +Zeno apparently so, that's what I've heard... I believe they are rumors though, you'll probably just go to an outpost/festival expansion

  • @staceymoore6233
    @staceymoore6233 7 років тому

    This actually helped me because I was never a big drifter

  • @neilscoobycollins6475
    @neilscoobycollins6475 8 років тому +4

    when we finally get this on PC I'll be looking for some private tuition lol Not gonna deny not getting a demo until after the game is on general release seems a contradiction in terms but that's msft and playground for you.Keep up with the tutorial's as they're an invaluable resource for a non Forza player like myself 👴🏻👍🏻

  • @caydenteasley3808
    @caydenteasley3808 4 роки тому

    saved me with those settings made my game 10x better

  • @unknownunknown8860
    @unknownunknown8860 4 роки тому

    This worked so good within 10 min I was already getting better

  • @retrofitracing6127
    @retrofitracing6127 8 років тому +1

    Can you do a video on cars you'd suggest for drifting?

    • @audir8v10plus4
      @audir8v10plus4 8 років тому

      id recommend the Audi R8 cause it's easy to control while drifting

    • @Nexville
      @Nexville 8 років тому

      RWD, light and high torque.
      Soft suspension setup and short gear ratio.

  • @carolinep1086
    @carolinep1086 8 років тому

    I'm not a beginner but I didn't know how to drift because I'm not an adult I'm only 9 and I don't really know how to do stuff with cars and such but this really helped thank you

  • @deakinhuxtable4687
    @deakinhuxtable4687 8 років тому +1

    being Australian it's really hard to not scream at him for driving on the right side of the road

    • @bordanjarrett
      @bordanjarrett 3 роки тому

      when playing games, road is road. does not matter which side >:)

  • @taherulalam4529
    @taherulalam4529 8 років тому

    thank u i was a playstation guy now i have xbox one s this helped alot

  • @colemanuk2284
    @colemanuk2284 8 років тому +1

    what's ur set up?

  • @imalviinnn
    @imalviinnn 6 років тому +3

    When you clutch-in, do you hold clutch?

  • @jayz_fs
    @jayz_fs 4 роки тому

    Going from sweet drifting with a controller to a steering wheel is sooo much harder

  • @MajestadBowser
    @MajestadBowser 8 років тому

    what does clutch in mean?

  • @palmerbytaylor4663
    @palmerbytaylor4663 7 років тому

    I recommend the BMW M5 and M6 as fantastic stock drifting cars, you can control them very easily and the engines are very flexible

  • @lchollies3651
    @lchollies3651 8 років тому +26

    what if you dont play using manual shifting

    • @mattra5224
      @mattra5224 8 років тому +18

      Then just put it in manual for drifting

    • @ethanm2449
      @ethanm2449 8 років тому +14

      Bruh who uses automatic?!

    • @johnniepittman2739
      @johnniepittman2739 8 років тому +5

      need clutch though

    • @mattra5224
      @mattra5224 8 років тому +14

      I don't use clutch and I drift fine

    • @HemlockHistoria
      @HemlockHistoria 8 років тому +5

      Lmao, you don't need manual to drift.

  • @Christian-vx2ve
    @Christian-vx2ve 8 років тому +3

    Show us a good drift build for beginners!Who else?

  • @SnarkyGoose
    @SnarkyGoose 8 років тому

    This vid helped sooo much. at first, I had no clue how to freestyle drift, but know I do!!!!! :))

  • @cargovroom8244
    @cargovroom8244 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the help I’ve improved a lot from this

  • @zev4036
    @zev4036 8 років тому +1

    Broooooooooooo Remember when you did this series on FH1,Man That was actually my first vid that I watched

  • @forzalife9270
    @forzalife9270 8 років тому

    Is the handling more like forza 6 or forza horizon 2?

  • @adambatho6362
    @adambatho6362 8 років тому

    The orange ute at the second roundabout was a Ford FPV Super Pursuit

  • @vioricapopescu8300
    @vioricapopescu8300 3 роки тому

    I also recommend AWD cars, that stuff drifts by itself

  • @pleasenotthebelt2355
    @pleasenotthebelt2355 7 років тому

    Lol this was uploaded on my birthday :D and thx btw this helped a lot!

  • @aeroluster2689
    @aeroluster2689 6 років тому

    Don't drift with the handbrake too much, it is always good to experiment with other techniques to learn how to control your car through all aspects in a drift from entry to exit. From feeling the shift of the weight to simply throttle control. Likewise it is crucial to get used to the manual with clutch setting, because it allows you to initiate the maximum amount of drifting techniques in your car.

  • @hectorruiz4032
    @hectorruiz4032 8 років тому

    thx tomcat you helped me how to drift in the roundabout in fh2 and fh3

  • @MGdrifts
    @MGdrifts 7 років тому

    what do you mean tunning after learning you should tune it a little bit like lengthen the gear ratio like so you don't over rev

  • @TuddecBMW
    @TuddecBMW 8 років тому

    I prefer to powerslide rather than using the e-brake and clutch, especially how that's how you'd do it in most cars nowadays which have electronic e-brakes and automatic transmissions.

    • @benjaminmayfield6954
      @benjaminmayfield6954 8 років тому

      real drifters dont use electronic ebrakes and autos. they all have manual trans and regular old fashion ebrakes, hence why you dont see brand new cars out there drifting. Also most car manufacturers these days dont make a car for drifting. more along the line of economy and luxury.

  • @scribed5213
    @scribed5213 8 років тому

    Yep. Prepare to tap the e-brake and hold in the throttle...

  • @Iron-Griffon
    @Iron-Griffon 8 років тому

    it's he-yun-day, not hun-die. any other Hyundai person would get super pissy about that, but I love you tomcat.😁

  • @bulletflourishz5603
    @bulletflourishz5603 8 років тому

    i have bought a thrust master race wheel and i do real clutch kick drifts rather than e drifts like you so could i apply any of these to the wheel?

  • @farooq8fox
    @farooq8fox 6 років тому

    Thanks, its useful for beginners like me.

  • @danepatterson8107
    @danepatterson8107 7 років тому

    So this IS in fact my first ever driving game since the 80s. Is clutch essential to good practice and play? I have not been using clutch in difficulty. I am not doing well with the e-brake after 1,000 miles driven

    • @imnota
      @imnota 7 років тому

      Dane Patterson Clutch is not necessary,use manual without clutch.

  • @NightOwlGames
    @NightOwlGames 6 років тому

    I don't understand what you taking about? im trying to do a drift race here using a xbox controller I have no idea what to press to get my car to drift, the race gave me a Nissan 350z to do it in im stuck your talking about clutches I don't have a clutch or steering wheel.

  • @ijust96
    @ijust96 8 років тому

    What's the difference between simulation and normal steering? I use a controller and don't know which to use.

  • @jumpsliding
    @jumpsliding 7 років тому

    Im using automatic shifting cuz Im new to the game, should I use manual or not?

  • @stickyone11
    @stickyone11 7 років тому

    what are you using to record/capture your gameplay? and share your hardware? software settings plz

  • @loganmartin59
    @loganmartin59 8 років тому

    I watched how to drift for forza motor sports 6 and got so confused this game looked like it would be a good game to learn to drift so here I am

    • @loganmartin59
      @loganmartin59 7 років тому

      Took me five months, but I learned to drive with manual with clutch. Also what your doing here is what I believe is E-Drifting

  • @ugniusugnius3356
    @ugniusugnius3356 4 роки тому

    Im drift beginer and i got qestion is ford cobra r 1995 is good for driftig
    I puted on exsaust not chainged the engienie onle wheals brake and turn radius car clas is B

  • @brownie_boy7950
    @brownie_boy7950 8 років тому

    Is he using his wheel? I would definitely be drifting with G920. That is the most fun way to enjoy drifting and the car I think.

  • @nilsb.8559
    @nilsb.8559 8 років тому +1

    I want to shift with a shiftknob, but forza doesn't allow that. Is it possible to change that?

  • @Le_Floffy_A92
    @Le_Floffy_A92 8 років тому

    what could be a good route to practice drifting?

  • @benjamincorrie5448
    @benjamincorrie5448 8 років тому

    You know what also is a strong word love, and hate

  • @WhiteErFox
    @WhiteErFox 8 років тому

    Ok, that clutching thing... can I get the same effect by going into normal manual and taking it down a gear while using the ebrake?

  • @samellis2604
    @samellis2604 4 роки тому

    I’m ok at the entire racing part, but drifting is far from my thing. I didn’t normally use clutch, i know I’m extremely late to this video, but do I have to use it or just for people who use that setting? Also every time I attempt to e-drift I just do a 180 like almost immediately
    I’m on a wheel btw

  • @TomsterTBurt
    @TomsterTBurt 6 років тому +1

    End of Horizon 3... just starts trying to drift 😂

  • @fabien39
    @fabien39 8 років тому

    Please do a video on the tuning for drifting when the game comes out

  • @mehdiremidi8632
    @mehdiremidi8632 7 років тому

    Guys i have a problen with controller settings ( xbox360 controler for pc ) when i make a turn i need 1 sec of difference ( or less) for it to actually turn i need to up the sensibility of the left stick . Can u plz tell me where i can find that setting and what value to put?

    • @imnota
      @imnota 7 років тому

      Disable vsync.
      It makes input lag.

  • @chrism0518
    @chrism0518 5 років тому

    Wait, do we do e-brake and clutch-in twice or just once because when he tells you the trick he says, "E-brake, Clutch-in, e-brake, clutch-in.'

  • @MrJasu12
    @MrJasu12 8 років тому

    I learned to drift with the m4. it took 5 minutes to learn drift it with amazing lines xd

  • @SilverWolfM200LDH
    @SilverWolfM200LDH 7 років тому

    Did you have any issues with your drifting and PR stunts not registering on your stats page?

  • @madesht6377
    @madesht6377 4 роки тому

    Should I use RWD or AWD

  • @zFLAVEz
    @zFLAVEz 8 років тому

    hey do you guys think the ultimate edition is worth the extra cash for what you get???

  • @ShinyEditz
    @ShinyEditz 8 років тому

    Can't wait for the silvia s14

  • @rick-hj3jg
    @rick-hj3jg 6 років тому

    Thanks! It helped me a lot!

  • @alfiewilson8965
    @alfiewilson8965 4 роки тому

    It’s hard. Especially coming from someone that never stoped doing drags for god knows how long.

  • @jasonpersaud5259
    @jasonpersaud5259 8 років тому

    My technic is to have at least 800 hp rwd and floor it in the start of the turn then it will slide then I control the acceleration an control it with with turning

  • @iketanikoichiro3519
    @iketanikoichiro3519 6 років тому

    Was this s15 used in forza horizon 4 trailer

  • @burningtirez4548
    @burningtirez4548 8 років тому

    Bro this shot helped me thanks

  • @johnusher8735
    @johnusher8735 5 років тому

    What does clutch in mean I’m really new to cars I only got into cars because of forza ( and what’s throttle control)

  • @trinitystallion4387
    @trinitystallion4387 7 років тому

    Look, I need some help. I'm pretty good at drifting with a controller but I have bought a wheel and can't drift on it. I know this is natural but I can't find a proper video for drifting with a wheel. Would controller videos work, or are there any videos out there by SLAP or anyone else about drifting with a wheel. I don't think CTorreto has made a vid, but he has made a vid about comparing the two control types.

  • @jasonpersaud5259
    @jasonpersaud5259 8 років тому

    If u spin out add more grippy tire or lower ur tire pressure just saying I can drift I'm not a begginer

  • @brianmabone1643
    @brianmabone1643 8 років тому

    what buttons do you press to drift

  • @phoenixgaming20
    @phoenixgaming20 8 років тому

    The one thing that's wrong in horizon 3 is the roads in Australia aren't that smooth

  • @519MaLoNeY
    @519MaLoNeY 7 років тому

    Thanks for the tips man.

  • @jrzamudio2743
    @jrzamudio2743 8 років тому

    or do u have to have clutch on?

  • @datguy6754
    @datguy6754 7 років тому +1

    Is 1356 hp enough?

    • @datguy6754
      @datguy6754 7 років тому

      JK I'm just being a dick!

  • @jrzamudio2743
    @jrzamudio2743 8 років тому

    can u drift on manual with out clutch?

  • @richardr4074
    @richardr4074 7 років тому +4

    Thunk you I had I hard time drifting I'd hard I like dragging

  • @mantaholy6845
    @mantaholy6845 8 років тому

    Do you use the handbrake in there???

  • @techsavytronicstechsavytro528
    @techsavytronicstechsavytro528 8 років тому

    I chose the stock s15 at the start and I keep spinning out when drifting even on the small round abouts. Im using the g27 steering wheel and can drift perfectly in dirt 3 and grid. Would you know what settings to choose in the in game settngs?

  • @nicmac9282
    @nicmac9282 8 років тому

    perfec
    t that helped me a lot as u said pls more of those totourials for noobs like me

  • @colinsharp5642
    @colinsharp5642 8 років тому

    Tommcatt pls respond
    My problem is i can get tandems with low horsepower and stock cars but when i throw anything of 550+ i cant control it and this happens alot on horizon 2, on forza 4 and 6 i can do it easy is this my techinique the game or waht??? i drift on ac (pc) all the time
    Thanks!

  • @ERAKONZ90
    @ERAKONZ90 7 років тому +8

    *D E J A V U*

  • @jacobschumacher6987
    @jacobschumacher6987 8 років тому

    How do you buy cars and customize cars on the demo?

  • @gerardoflores2697
    @gerardoflores2697 8 років тому

    what ever happen to the other tutorials for foza motorsports 6

  • @SilentzxMiku
    @SilentzxMiku 8 років тому

    How do you drift in
    With keyboard and mouse?

  • @bda7dd30
    @bda7dd30 8 років тому

    hey TC9700Gaming i have the game forza horizon 3 im trying to drift do i need a manual transmission or can i do it with automatic

    • @RacinUltimatum
      @RacinUltimatum 7 років тому

      patrick ontario automatic doesn't really work because it won't hold a gear. its set to do whatever it can to regain traction, so you'll at least need manual so you can control the gears. manual with clutch is really only necessary if you want it to be, or if you use clutch kicks to initiate, rather than ebrake

  • @dheershah1470
    @dheershah1470 7 років тому

    Will a koenigsegg one:1 work

  • @vipertagtc9684
    @vipertagtc9684 7 років тому

    I trying to drift in viper with 1000hp but just can't do it so tell me how I can do it

  • @blackmariobro
    @blackmariobro 8 років тому

    I was wondering why you were always close to hitting an upcomming car... Turns out Australians drive on the left lol

  • @terrykim9745
    @terrykim9745 8 років тому

    Is the non demo out?!

  • @jake7846
    @jake7846 4 роки тому

    Manual or manual w/clutch

  • @alexanderkop2060
    @alexanderkop2060 7 років тому

    can i drift useing whell g920 logitech its hard if can ??