Katana Gekiken vs Longsword (High HEMA Ratings top 1% Fighters)
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- I gave an exhibition match on using Katana vs Longer weapons, enjoy the sparring footage. My opponent is pretty high level in Tier-A Longsword.
The HEMA ratings of the fighters in the video:
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with Kendo 3-dan
@jieyuwu86 idk how i missed you put up this video! Great spar bro! Look forward to fencing you again soon.
Something that I noticed in this video that I didn't think about much before is that the shorter sword has to get a good bind or strike to the longer sword to get past the point. A medium guard is good for threatening the shorter short user but is easily moved. A high guard decreases the relevance of the increased length. What seems to be best would be a low guard. The point is less easily knocked aside and can be quickly brought up to threaten
That escalated quickly.
Nice sparring!
Do you have any information on what katana that is? I've been looking for reliable and well-made sparring katanas like that, but the only ones I've heard of are the Sigi and Akado Armory ones. I'd like to have any and all possible options available before I commit to a purchase.
This one is a sigi. It was borrowed. I use Akado currently.
@@jieyuwu86 How do you like it so far? I've been thinking about trying an Akado O-katana but I hear that one is on the whippy side and a lot of reviews I see say that Akado Armory katanas requires frequent filing and burs at the edges are more common than people preferred. Was that only really in the beta testing stages, or are these issues still prevalent?
@@Braveheart_Studios I don't use O-katanas, but I trained with a club where a guy was using an Akado-O-Katana. It seemed to have worked fine. I didn't notice it getting burs. It was a lot lighter than I expected, so it might be whippy. My Akado-Katana doesn't have any issues with burs. My longsword gets burred after about a couple months of heavy use. But then I just take a rock from the park to shave it down and it takes like 30 seconds.
@@jieyuwu86did you do any ruggedization to the sword because I’ve been wondering if I should do it and one more thing do you prefer the regular tetsuba katana or the tetsuba kokatana
@Hachiman01 I have ruggedization on my Akado Katana mainly because it was recommended for heavy sparring. But I don't have any info regarding how it compares for one without ruggedization.
I do not think the Ko-katana is great for fencing especially against a longsword because there is not enough blade length to apply control on the longsword blade without being in a super close and dangerous distance. I did win a ko-katana at CombatCon and after playing around with it for bit, thought it was really great at Battoujutsu fighting (draw cut dueling) as I can draw it faster than a normal Katana.
That stabbing pose was better for the long sword. Did long sword win the second fight? I saw him hit the hands and defend. Anyway pretty cool
Which stabbing pose? You mean Longpoint would be more effective than chudan in this match-up? If so I'd agree.
1st Exchange - I thought I got a handslice towards the end of the flurries but he didn't acknowledge so might have been too light to count, so it'd be ruled an unclear exchange.
2nd exchange - he cut my torso after a parry and escaped so that would go to the Longsword side.
3rd exchange - I hit his wrist with a Kaeshi kote technique.
@jieyuwu86 very nice thank you
@@jieyuwu86 Really cool fight to see! You were really agressive in there and I don't really know much about japanese swordsmanship - is it more your personal approach or generally adviced in japanese martial arts/lineage you train?
As for your doubts about the first exchange, as HEMA fencer and a judge I would score the first exchange to a longsword user - it seems to me he got you earlier in the exchange, but you continued, he parried twice after that and then you indeed hit him in the forearm area.
@@jieyuwu86indeed, I hadn't sensed the slice, my apologies
So usually I cringe when I see people using "High level" in the titel, but this was high level.
Nice fencing!
It wasn't high level, you can see the way he fail to even grip the katana properly. No proper cuts, no proper footwork, no proper nothing, can't comment on the other guy becuase I am not practiced in-- well, whatever he was doing?
@@rosvall216 what's your HEMA rating? Katana fighter is one of the top ranked longsword fencers in the country. Has more gold medals than you can count. But please, do tell us how you'd do it better ;)
@@rosvall216yeah if you only watch anime then of course he has bad foot work and doesn’t grip the katana well because real life combat isn’t real right now
@@Hachiman01 I have practiced Kendo for over 17 years, Iado and Katori shinto ryu. I know it is not supposed to look like that.. what are you on about you absolute potato?
@@michaelagallucci9342 In my kendo career (most of my matches are all one UA-cam, high level tourneys etc) I too have won 6 gold medals, 3 bronze and 2 silver. I can absolutely see that his footwork is bad, gripping bad, everything he does doesn't look right, it lacks sharpness. The speed of his attacks and the determination when he commits is also a big issue, but.. all in all, he looks like a Katana beginner. Edit - when looking at hema, when comparing two fighters from the same school, Longsword etc, their style is not exactly cohesive, it lacks finesse. False Edge hema though, that dude, he is one of few who actually trains as he fights, he is just better because it looks like he does drills and then takes that practice with him when sparring.. he, he looks sharp af. But this katanga dude needs to take a lesson, someone needs to train him proper before he can claim the title of expert katana wielder.
ayyyy das Gesellen Fechten. I was there to do my thai swords vs hema. only for mixed steel on the first day though. The guy you are fighting he is very good I fought him at a tournament last fall.
Was this all of the sparring? Did the longsword fighter ever go on the attack or did he play defensive all of the time? Seems like a waste when the longsword has the range advantage and gave it all up.
When you have a longer sword, you really should be defensive.
If he goes into attack and the shorter sword wielder parries while moving forward, all the advantages of a longer sword dissapear.
Dafuq are you talking about, 9 times out of 10 the longer weapon plays defense while shorter weapon (or arms lmao, if you're short) has to make the breach. Both in real life and modern practices, longer weapon could always just move slowly towards you, with shorter weapon having to either give out ground or go in. Guess what, you can't retreat forever, and both IRL and in modern fights, after some time the job is done without even clashing the sword. That's why there was always arms race to be the guy with the longer stick. Look what Alexander accomplished with new long sticks compared to up to that point traditional length sticks, literally conquered all known world. Or how pikemen almost deleted relevance of cavalry that didn't adapt, only reason Polish Hussars stayed relevant is because of hollowed spears that could match the length of pike, all other cavalry became something else entirely in the warfare.
TL;DR Make a bigger stick (or knife) then zone opponent, if they accept being zoned, you win, if they go for a breach, you have advantage. Life really do be simple sometimes, make bigger sticks.
That's because I'm aware of the caliber of fighter I was facing.
a katana user would avoid blade on blade action.
why use a katana if you're going to be sparring as if you were using a longsword? and high level HEMA ratings fighters? that ego is out of control
It's interesting to see how the two weapons and martial art systems would interact with each other.
But what is your HEMA rating and/or kendo/kenjutsu rank?
@@jieyuwu86 I don't have a rank because I stopped practicing HEMA years ago and never cared for it anyways.
@@jieyuwu86 I do agree on one thing tho, it is good you're experimenting with different types of weapons. The community made the mistake years ago to simply try and copy the images they saw in the books and forgot that people back then rarely fought with the same weapons.
I think he is letting people who watch the video know that they are both accomplished fencers, so its not veteran vs. a newb. And yeah, rank doesn't mean everything but its a pretty good indication of how much trouble a fighter will give you if you chose to fence them.
Who pissed in your corn flakes lmao
Footwork just awful