You want more legroom in the rear? Buy a used limo like mine. Cheap these days! Not much good if you live in a shoebox apartment, so buy a spread as well!
The renault Zoe is currently the third car sold in france ! TOP 3 and the electric vehicle represent 8 % of the car market. 2020 is really the beginning of a new area for EV . It is booming
One essential point that wasn't covered is the relationship between driving and range. For example on the motorway what sort of cruising speed would you need to keep to in order to achieve the maximum range.
Exactly, I wasn't sure about this review after the driving position comments earlier on. However, the "even the 135 isn't like a Tesla and you are not pinned in the seat" comment was the point I abandoned this review. Clearly the bloke thinks everyone drives like him and is obsessed with power and speed.
Exactly, I'm researching EVs ATM and I don't get that selling point, I'm not Jeremy Clarkson, I'll seldom go over 100KMPH as most my driving is in a congested city.
Of course it undercuts the e-Niro, Leaf and e-Golf, it's a class lower in size. Also, and I don't mean to be too picky, but that looked like a decent amount of leg room to me.
This looks like a real winner. They should bring it to the US, we really don't have something comparable here (everything is faster and more expensive). The 135hp Zoe is fast enough and a more reasonable price and is very efficient (better than 4.5mi/kWh by my calculations). I have a Chevy Bolt with 200hp and really, its overpowered (I have raced a Camaro multiple times and won every time). I don't need a car that beats a Camaro, I'd be happy with the Zoe's performance.
Had 2015 Zoe for 2 yrs great car loved it but advertised 150 miles but realistically only 75. Headlights and heater were bad but everything else was great. Now got Leaf but preferred Zoe.
Soft touch plastics suck! We had a VW Golf Mk IV and an Audi A4 B6 in the family and the smooth platic areas got all gooey after 5+ years. I have been in other relatively premium old cars and the smooth pastic areas are usually the ones that degrade more over time. The hard plastics usually last longer, as long as they are not so crappy that they harden and shatter.
@@pedroalbuquerquebs I agree. I have had two Honda Jazzes (Fit) and the plastics are hard, but good quality, and have never degraded or deformed (or scratched). I had a BMW and it was a mess after three years - and I'm careful.
haha, the self-proclaimed internet car specialist noob..... they don't like hard plastic because it looks and feels cheap, but they all love the 'soft-touch plastic' WICH IS CHEAPER TO MAKE
@@nadimahmed8485 It is funny people seem to love cars that rank close to bottom in reliability! Even Nissan wants to dump Renault and get back to making Nissan a reliable brand again.
@@gregandkaruna6674 I guess that Nissan has just a bit of memory glitch - they were the ones going bankrupt and needed help a long time ago. But hey - if you want to buy Renault for more money - buy Nissan.
@@janisvaskevics93 Renault only helped in money, the quality of the cars went down fast with crap parts in both Nissan and Renault. Nissan was doomed even with Renault's help. That Ghosn stripped Nissan of its quality, Nissan just forgot how to make exciting cars. But now under new leadership just like Toyota they are going back to making cool cars and in Nissan's case trying to win back the trust of its customers.
- Only 50KW fast charger. - No water cooling - High consumption at high speed, because its high ~1.56(like city SUV). + High ride , because its high ~1.56(like city SUV).
@@soundslave I think it uses the cabin air conditioning compressor, with the previous 2 versions you couldn't use climate control while charging as the battery was prioritised
@@olivergunn2796 - yes, you may use the climate control under certain conditions. Use the preheating/cooling feature during charging. Fully possible. In the first versions it had to have at least 50% charged battery and from R90 25% to work. But it is possible. There's so much "fake news" around.... And yes the battery is actively aircooled.
I wish that the person that does these auto evaluations would at least give their height and possibly weight so that we could get a better idea of how we would fit the car.
@@bournvilleman Because the Zoe lacks autonomous features even no adaptive cruise control! And legendary Renault reliability lol that was a joke. The MG gets a 7 year warranty, so yeah do not mention or compare that!
My wife and I are aiming to lease a Mii as our first electric car and buy a Zoe as our second. What Car? is appealing to me even more with the 9:40 synthwave vibes
Why I brought up the problem of driver only testing - Bought a Suzuki Ignis in 2018 & if reviews had been done with a full load it would have been noticed that the car bottomed out even on minor motorway undulations. The vehicle also edited a loud cracking noise on full lock, identified to wrong grease on half shafts, also replaced by Suzuki. Problem since rectified by Suzuki with new coil springs and bump stops, but only if owners complain - so a lot of vehicles will go past warranty without getting rectified since they are not considered safety recalls - What car did later identify first problem on a long term test
Problem with the ZOE is they are using the old Clio floorpan and it is not a purpose built electric car starting with the chassis. They have put the batteries under the seats which means you can't lower the driver's seat if you are tall and the back seats don't fold down properly to give a reasonably flat load surface. I have decided to wait for the more expensive, slightly larger externally but much more internally spacious ID3. I am looking to replace a diesel Skoda Fabia and the replacement vehicle has to give at least as much space inside for 4 people and also be an easy to use and practical load carrier when the back seats are folded down.
If you look at other UA-cam videos of the ZE50, you'll find that the "rapid DC" 50kW charging capabilities never actually hit 50kW. It's 45kW max in most cases and tails off from 55% charge to 80% 45kW to 27kW. Given that the cheapest CCS version is advertised for £27,920, it really is poor value. The headline £25,670 price doesn't come with CCS, just 22kW AC. Whilst it's a lovely little car in some areas, Renault need to drop the price by about £10k across the board on Zoe otherwise it's just not a wise cash purchase right now. If Dacia made an electric Duster with 150 mile range and this charging setup (50kW CCS + 22kW Chamelion AC) for £18k to £20k they would be onto a winner.
How would they recoup costs that dont hurt the consumer? In reality it would be nice but you're asking too much of a price drop. This isnt a PS4 sold at a loss.
After viewing this What Car review, I suggest you check out the What Car EV reliability review. Zoe didn't do too well. Mourn the loss of manual infinitely variable handbrake..where you can feel it working. On/off switch? No thanks. 84mph top speed. I can think of scenarios where that is a problem
Like,... when you're breaking the law? On a road where 70mph is the legal limit, why is 84 a problem? All cars will be limited to the speed limit in a couple of years anyway.
@@timaustin2000 bet you can think of a rare scenario where you need a quick blast of speed to get out of a situation. Yes it is breaking the law, but it's also the lesser of two evils.
So much cheaper, more practical, simpler and better looking than any Tesla, One of the first EV's I've seen worth considering. I'd only go for the base model though, throwing £thousands extra at EVs tends to defeat the point on both cost and environmental grounds.
The 50kW DC fast charge on the Zoe and Chevy Bolt is such a limiting factor on this car. I really wish the 2019,2020 was at minimum 75kW with a battery pack this large. The charging curve is also insane... >65% and that 50kW drops to ~28kW.
My experience is that most of my fast charging has been "splash and dash" - IE, needing an extra 30-40 miles to get home. 50KW does fine with that. Indeed, 22KW does fine with that. Only ever stopped for more than 20 minues twice in a year on motorways with my ZE40 Zoe,... at 22KW. Bjorn's tests aren't particularly "real world". Who goes 1000km in a day?
Having done some research. I gather that the fabric finish has been discontinued as it has proved vulnerable to tearing. Existing U.K. orders will be compensated with a free boot tidy.
I hate using terms like “man’s car” or “woman’s car”, but I genuinely do feel that Zoe is more designed for ladies of a smaller build. While I’ve got a friend who’s about 6ft tall driving one, he shares the drive with Mrs, whose noticeably a smaller build, and and sitting higher up would be a confidence-inspiring driving position for many. Maybe not my taste, but the fact that Zoe being a smaller car by dimension but still enough room on the inside is a winner, not to mention the more affordable price
I rented a Zoe and my impressions went downhill when I opened the door. I mean it's an electric car with futuristic looks, I was hoping for a nice interior. It was bad. And I mean BAD bad. Quality was in the same level as a 2011 Nissan Micra. Nice to see they just refreshed it with nicer materials and better infotainment. Car drives nice for a 90hp carrying 1.5 tons.
You can't expect amazing things, It's a very cheap car in its class. Mine cost me only £13000.... can't really complain for that price really for such a bar setting EV hatchback 4 years ago...
I had this very first version in 2013, the 22 kWh and... i loved the interior ! I loved the "windmill wing" as a dash, the "monobloc" seats and that you have close to not one visible gadgets or useless buttons, but a full lcd dash plus a multitouch big screen. There was a bit of Model3 in this design. Lately the entry model was much less equipped with no screen and infotainment ... perhaps it's the one you tried ? Whatever, the new one is totally different inside.
Looks as though I should update my 2016 battery owned Zoe for a new one! It hasn't been without problems though, including out of order for three weeks waiting parts - but all dealt with and a hire car under warranty.
@@johnfaulkner6776 thanks John that's really helpful. I have a 2014 Nissan Leaf. The range is terrible but, like the reliability surveys keep showing, it's the most reliable car I've ever had by miles. If I could just find an EV with better range & similar reliability I'd be happy!
These are still pre production vehicles that why made a batch of for dealers to get pre orders. I don't think the car is going to be out for another month or so
The best? The only annoying thing is driving position? The shutdown procedure alone takes some learning to do it. Big screen is not necessary nor easy to deal with. The buttons are littered everywhere and it is hard to find them. There are plenty cars on the market, that are more user-friendly. But knowing the company it comes from... You should stop experimenting Renault!
I'm 6'2 and had to sit in one to make sure my head fit. Unfortunately my eye comes in line with the top of the window... Rediculous why they don't have a height adjuster as everything else with the car was perfect for my needs. Or even just raise the front windscreen by an inche so I can actually see traffic lights when I pull up to a junction. Not have to stick my head out the door window
The issue with the new Zoe and it’s bigger battery pack is the inability to charge at a higher rate. That means it’s slower to fill up the bigger battery.
No mention of assisted driving? I understand this car is in the lower-priced category but this is where the future is so doesn't bode well for Renault.
For all of you considering buying a Renault Zoe with a battery lease BEWARE!!! I have a 2013 Renault Zoe and my battery health has fallen to 70% after 84,000 miles - I am getting a full range charge of just 45 miles now. You might think it is easy to get a replacement battery from Renault Finance when the battery health falls below 75% (as per the agreement), well it is NOT! I am currently having a nightmare battle with Renault. I have been a firm supporter of electric cars and the Renault Zoe but my opinion is now changing and I am considering going back to petrol, something I never imagined for all these years. Renault are seriously damaging the electric car market with their appalling customer service.
Have a look at an entry level EV the Renault K-ZE, nice mini SUV under $9,999 with 250 km range. Good to see some decent, under 10K over 250 km EV's coming on. This is what we need.
But remember that under 250 km is getting close to the 30kWh Leaf. That's around 5 years too late for the target market. People want 300 km to 325 km range, so that town drivers can recharge weekly, and main road drivers aren’t stopping to recharge for ⅓ of the total journey time.
Tesla is by far the only brand to buy at this point for the price point and quality...these other car makers are just trying to get some sales in while tesla can't make enough yet for the demand.
Hi, Useful vidéo as I have a 2020 Intens. Helpful info,. BTW, there is an accessories for the trunk which hides the cables. I Would like a video on the complex remote heating system. I’m baffled as to how to program it from home. All the best, Richard
Issues with the App meant remote heat control wasn't yet available..Hearing in August 2020 that a dealer visit might be needed for a fix for early cars..Later cars would have had the fix in production.
The thing that writes off the Renault Zoe for me is that you purchase the car and then have to rent the battery on top of that which essentially wipes out the single cost advantage EV's have in terms of their low running costs. For that reason I would be far more likely to look at something like the e-Golf. I know that you can technically buy yourself out of renting it but that is a hidden extra cost which is enough that you might as well go for a higher quality vehicle which has the cost of the battery in the base price.
The Zoe50 battery is owned for UK release,not rented..Previous Zoes were less expensive as the battery rental made the car cheaper up front.the price bump reflects this.
My Renault’s battery lost 25% capacity at 45000 kms , 35% at 65000 kms... And Renault still resists to accept its own warranty promise for the battery since then... A car is Nothing without a proper service.
I took my 6' brother,his wife,and their 2 (preteen) kids to the airport in my Zoe 40 after last christmas..and their luggage in the boot..how big do you want?
Hey @whatcar do you know how much renault charges for motor repair on zoe? Its 10000 pounds.. as a journalist are you happy to recommend this car with such a hight cost of repair when things go wrong?
It’s worth noting that as this report features the European version, the U.K. spec car does NOT have the material dash and gear surround, which are synthetic leather in the U.K. cars. Also you will see that the Bose sound system is not available in the December Zoe Brochure. Also for me it’s disappointing that it does not have Active Cruise Control. ACC.
Mmmm, best small EV? I still prefer the BMW i3 overall, though the i3 rear doors are not for everyone, it has a fabulous interior for 2, nippy performance and timeless style.
The more you drive, the more you save. Found an older article about the R90 Zoe and the cost per mile was about 52.2p. Depends a bit how you charge etc. naturally. This is with residuals etc. counted in. It's cheaper than petrol after probably like 30 miles a day driving.
For my current Zoe I pay £0.05 per kWhr overnight, so worst case example of 3 miles per kWhr works out at £0.016 per mile, compared to about £0.15 per mile in a 40 MPG petrol car.
@@johannesbekker1970 yeah for sure, it does rely on being able to charge from home and swapping to an overnight tariff with a company like Octopus Energy. If you relied on public rapid charging then it could get up to £0.10 per mile. Quite often workplaces and some car parks offer free slow charging, which makes the £ per mile even less. Also remember that a lot of the cost of petrol is tax, home electricity is only 8% VAT in comparison.
I decided to go and buy one this week to replace a 2011 Smart Fortwo i leave in the garage all year only use it like 10 days a year. My government will pay half the price of the Zoe, minus the value of the trade in.. I should get away with 5k for a new car
As long as some EVs have an absolute ridiculous driving position - such as the Zoe or the Ampera-E - it will never get mainstream. I want to sit in a car, not on top of it.
The £30,000 Clio 🤔 🤦♀️ (Dont worry you will save £2000 in fuel 🙄) which means you would have only wasted £12,000 as supposed to *wasting £14,000 😢 if you were to buy a Clio*
Why is the output power of the electric motor expressed in HP instead of kW 🤷♂️ Here in Australia we even use kW when talking about IC engines’ output !
DumplingKing 101 Fair comment, just an observation tho, James Watt after all was British! I just find it weird that, in general, when talking abt Electrical power we, and you (in the UK) use the Watt.
I'm still not sure if the leased battery would work for my driving. it appears expensive on paper. But I don't know If it would work out better than buying fuel?
But hey! Sitting high up is what made me love the ZOE! It is the only car I feel good driving in, being used to my Scenic.
These Journalists want every car to feel sporty.
Good for short ladies; maybe that's the market they have targeted.
Try a tesla
@@altinocunha3074 Have, and liked Zoe more for what I need in a car.
@@leebougz - yes, very one-dimensional thinking.
Legroom in rear not particularity impressive?!? You got like, 7" clear space infront of your knees as you sit, how much more do you need?
You want more legroom in the rear? Buy a used limo like mine. Cheap these days! Not much good if you live in a shoebox apartment, so buy a spread as well!
Depends how tall he is though.
They are journalists...
He is 165cm though
The renault Zoe is currently the third car sold in france ! TOP 3 and the electric vehicle represent 8 % of the car market. 2020 is really the beginning of a new area for EV . It is booming
I drive a Zoe and I am pleased with it. Great drivning experience.
Hi, do you still have the Zoe? If so how do you find it? Any issues?
I was impressed with the "physical dials" and the customisable dash that shows things "like speed". Progress!
I was also amazed it came with wheels and a windscreen
One essential point that wasn't covered is the relationship between driving and range. For example on the motorway what sort of cruising speed would you need to keep to in order to achieve the maximum range.
As slow as possible with EVs. Probably can’t go less than 60 without losing your mind
0:12 From 300km to 394km in normal units.
Why does he expect Tesla acceleration and to be pinned back into his seat? It’s a Renault Zoe...
Exactly, I wasn't sure about this review after the driving position comments earlier on. However, the "even the 135 isn't like a Tesla and you are not pinned in the seat" comment was the point I abandoned this review. Clearly the bloke thinks everyone drives like him and is obsessed with power and speed.
He can't have tried A Zoe or any other non Tesla EV at the lights...
Exactly, I'm researching EVs ATM and I don't get that selling point, I'm not Jeremy Clarkson, I'll seldom go over 100KMPH as most my driving is in a congested city.
I’ve driven Zoe’s often. Fantastic car which I’ll probably buy when they become a little more affordable!
Here is your time! They have halved in value in 3 years 😱
Of course it undercuts the e-Niro, Leaf and e-Golf, it's a class lower in size. Also, and I don't mean to be too picky, but that looked like a decent amount of leg room to me.
Sees license plate: "nice".
Iiès, Ze 69 iz best.
This looks like a real winner. They should bring it to the US, we really don't have something comparable here (everything is faster and more expensive). The 135hp Zoe is fast enough and a more reasonable price and is very efficient (better than 4.5mi/kWh by my calculations).
I have a Chevy Bolt with 200hp and really, its overpowered (I have raced a Camaro multiple times and won every time). I don't need a car that beats a Camaro, I'd be happy with the Zoe's performance.
I'm very impressed with French stuff ... Dude is impressive too. Congrats ;)
I love the higher up seating.
i drive the old zoe, and i love it :)
Me too, I have now my second Zoe, a R90 and before that the first version Q210. I have driven about 100000 miles in my Zoes :)
Had 2015 Zoe for 2 yrs great car loved it but advertised 150 miles but realistically only 75. Headlights and heater were bad but everything else was great. Now got Leaf but preferred Zoe.
Was heater expensive to fix?
Car reviewers' obession with soft-touch plastics ......
And sporty seating position.
Soft touch plastics suck! We had a VW Golf Mk IV and an Audi A4 B6 in the family and the smooth platic areas got all gooey after 5+ years. I have been in other relatively premium old cars and the smooth pastic areas are usually the ones that degrade more over time. The hard plastics usually last longer, as long as they are not so crappy that they harden and shatter.
@@pedroalbuquerquebs I agree. I have had two Honda Jazzes (Fit) and the plastics are hard, but good quality, and have never degraded or deformed (or scratched). I had a BMW and it was a mess after three years - and I'm careful.
Totally agree why the obsession with soft plastics !?
haha, the self-proclaimed internet car specialist noob..... they don't like hard plastic because it looks and feels cheap, but they all love the 'soft-touch plastic' WICH IS CHEAPER TO MAKE
Looks like a great little car, The high seating position is a good thing imo. Only thing I don't like is the cloth trim on the dash.
wow it is beautiful, you should sell it in the USA! I have never heard of the brand before here in America.
Renault is a French brand that is actually big in Europe and Latin America.
Renault used to sell in the USA back in the 80s.
Whenever this comes in India it will break all records
Waiting for it to be launched in India.. Renault cars are always reliable
I've heard there are shortfalls in the safety rating. Is that right?
I am very impressed with French cars lately
Harry Murray-Jones I have never been impressed with french cars
@@nadimahmed8485 It is funny people seem to love cars that rank close to bottom in reliability! Even Nissan wants to dump Renault and get back to making Nissan a reliable brand again.
@@gregandkaruna6674 renault has a better reliability than nissan according to UK reliability index www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
@@gregandkaruna6674 I guess that Nissan has just a bit of memory glitch - they were the ones going bankrupt and needed help a long time ago. But hey - if you want to buy Renault for more money - buy Nissan.
@@janisvaskevics93 Renault only helped in money, the quality of the cars went down fast with crap parts in both Nissan and Renault. Nissan was doomed even with Renault's help. That Ghosn stripped Nissan of its quality, Nissan just forgot how to make exciting cars. But now under new leadership just like Toyota they are going back to making cool cars and in Nissan's case trying to win back the trust of its customers.
- Only 50KW fast charger.
- No water cooling
- High consumption at high speed, because its high ~1.56(like city SUV).
+ High ride , because its high ~1.56(like city SUV).
It has "active cooling" but what does that mean?
@@soundslave I think it uses the cabin air conditioning compressor, with the previous 2 versions you couldn't use climate control while charging as the battery was prioritised
@@olivergunn2796 - yes, you may use the climate control under certain conditions. Use the preheating/cooling feature during charging. Fully possible. In the first versions it had to have at least 50% charged battery and from R90 25% to work. But it is possible. There's so much "fake news" around.... And yes the battery is actively aircooled.
@@soundslave - yes, it has active air cooling. That's why it has only 50 kW charging CCS and not higher. But no Rapidgate like Nissan Leaf.
I wish that the person that does these auto evaluations would at least give their height and possibly weight so that we could get a better idea of how we would fit the car.
Proper modern European compact car. Like it very much. Please don't mention MG in the same sentence with ZOE.
Why?
@@bournvilleman Because the Zoe lacks autonomous features even no adaptive cruise control! And legendary Renault reliability lol that was a joke. The MG gets a 7 year warranty, so yeah do not mention or compare that!
What is MG?
@@mihnealazar7039 Do something maybe a little complicated for you and type MG into Google duh!
@@gregandkaruna6674 i have one, do you?
My wife and I are aiming to lease a Mii as our first electric car and buy a Zoe as our second.
What Car? is appealing to me even more with the 9:40 synthwave vibes
Why I brought up the problem of driver only testing - Bought a Suzuki Ignis in 2018 & if reviews had been done with a full load it would have been noticed that the car bottomed out even on minor motorway undulations. The vehicle also edited a loud cracking noise on full lock, identified to wrong grease on half shafts, also replaced by Suzuki. Problem since rectified by Suzuki with new coil springs and bump stops, but only if owners complain - so a lot of vehicles will go past warranty without getting rectified since they are not considered safety recalls - What car did later identify first problem on a long term test
Love the colour - it's sometimes blue sometimes green!?? .cool
Problem with the ZOE is they are using the old Clio floorpan and it is not a purpose built electric car starting with the chassis. They have put the batteries under the seats which means you can't lower the driver's seat if you are tall and the back seats don't fold down properly to give a reasonably flat load surface. I have decided to wait for the more expensive, slightly larger externally but much more internally spacious ID3. I am looking to replace a diesel Skoda Fabia and the replacement vehicle has to give at least as much space inside for 4 people and also be an easy to use and practical load carrier when the back seats are folded down.
Thanks, I’ll be getting one of those as soon as I can afford it after lockdown.
Got one ordered for May. Lookin' forward to it.
How do you like it now?
Probs didn't get i
If you look at other UA-cam videos of the ZE50, you'll find that the "rapid DC" 50kW charging capabilities never actually hit 50kW. It's 45kW max in most cases and tails off from 55% charge to 80% 45kW to 27kW. Given that the cheapest CCS version is advertised for £27,920, it really is poor value. The headline £25,670 price doesn't come with CCS, just 22kW AC.
Whilst it's a lovely little car in some areas, Renault need to drop the price by about £10k across the board on Zoe otherwise it's just not a wise cash purchase right now.
If Dacia made an electric Duster with 150 mile range and this charging setup (50kW CCS + 22kW Chamelion AC) for £18k to £20k they would be onto a winner.
How would they recoup costs that dont hurt the consumer? In reality it would be nice but you're asking too much of a price drop. This isnt a PS4 sold at a loss.
After viewing this What Car review, I suggest you check out the What Car EV reliability review.
Zoe didn't do too well.
Mourn the loss of manual infinitely variable handbrake..where you can feel it working. On/off switch? No thanks.
84mph top speed. I can think of scenarios where that is a problem
Like,... when you're breaking the law? On a road where 70mph is the legal limit, why is 84 a problem? All cars will be limited to the speed limit in a couple of years anyway.
@@timaustin2000 bet you can think of a rare scenario where you need a quick blast of speed to get out of a situation. Yes it is breaking the law, but it's also the lesser of two evils.
So much cheaper, more practical, simpler and better looking than any Tesla, One of the first EV's I've seen worth considering. I'd only go for the base model though, throwing £thousands extra at EVs tends to defeat the point on both cost and environmental grounds.
Please review the id3 when released for comparison to thezoe and leaf 64kw
The 50kW DC fast charge on the Zoe and Chevy Bolt is such a limiting factor on this car. I really wish the 2019,2020 was at minimum 75kW with a battery pack this large. The charging curve is also insane... >65% and that 50kW drops to ~28kW.
My experience is that most of my fast charging has been "splash and dash" - IE, needing an extra 30-40 miles to get home. 50KW does fine with that. Indeed, 22KW does fine with that. Only ever stopped for more than 20 minues twice in a year on motorways with my ZE40 Zoe,... at 22KW. Bjorn's tests aren't particularly "real world". Who goes 1000km in a day?
Always more important than the distance between your knees and the front seats is whether your feet fit under the front seats.
How does it stack up against the e208?
More range than the e208, but the latter has faster charging.
Nice and slick presentation!
good job by renault team...awesome!!! super excited
Having done some research. I gather that the fabric finish has been discontinued as it has proved vulnerable to tearing. Existing U.K. orders will be compensated with a free boot tidy.
I hate using terms like “man’s car” or “woman’s car”, but I genuinely do feel that Zoe is more designed for ladies of a smaller build.
While I’ve got a friend who’s about 6ft tall driving one, he shares the drive with Mrs, whose noticeably a smaller build, and and sitting higher up would be a confidence-inspiring driving position for many.
Maybe not my taste, but the fact that Zoe being a smaller car by dimension but still enough room on the inside is a winner, not to mention the more affordable price
I rented a Zoe and my impressions went downhill when I opened the door. I mean it's an electric car with futuristic looks, I was hoping for a nice interior. It was bad. And I mean BAD bad. Quality was in the same level as a 2011 Nissan Micra.
Nice to see they just refreshed it with nicer materials and better infotainment. Car drives nice for a 90hp carrying 1.5 tons.
You can't expect amazing things, It's a very cheap car in its class. Mine cost me only £13000.... can't really complain for that price really for such a bar setting EV hatchback 4 years ago...
I had this very first version in 2013, the 22 kWh and... i loved the interior ! I loved the "windmill wing" as a dash, the "monobloc" seats and that you have close to not one visible gadgets or useless buttons, but a full lcd dash plus a multitouch big screen.
There was a bit of Model3 in this design.
Lately the entry model was much less equipped with no screen and infotainment ... perhaps it's the one you tried ?
Whatever, the new one is totally different inside.
Had the first Zoe for 2 years. Woeful car. In the garage for weeks on end. Really put me off purchasing another electric car
People say the car has improved greatly.
@@DanRyzESPUK It should have been right from the start. Basically an electric Clio,which is a great car
Best car ever I have seen . When will this car come to India
A beautiful little car. Not too expensive.
Nice car👍 But that you can‘t adjust the seats in height is not good
Very true I didn't get last rendition because of this and I am disappointed they didn't fix this with new Zoe
they can't because some of the batteries are under the front seat.
When will the US get a affordable car for the masses ..👽👀
It's beyond overdue
Never
Trump is designing 1 but it’s powered by clean Coal. 😂
@@buddha1736 And built with Space Force included.
@Quix Not even close.
Looks as though I should update my 2016 battery owned Zoe for a new one! It hasn't been without problems though, including out of order for three weeks waiting parts - but all dealt with and a hire car under warranty.
What problems did it have please? I'm considering buying but people mention reliability issues
@@johnfaulkner6776 thanks John that's really helpful. I have a 2014 Nissan Leaf. The range is terrible but, like the reliability surveys keep showing, it's the most reliable car I've ever had by miles. If I could just find an EV with better range & similar reliability I'd be happy!
The top of the line model is a similar price to the Mercedes A250e, which is a Plugin Hybrid with a very usable 40 mile electric only range.
This is a UK review so why is the steering wheel on the left side?
These are still pre production vehicles that why made a batch of for dealers to get pre orders. I don't think the car is going to be out for another month or so
The best? The only annoying thing is driving position? The shutdown procedure alone takes some learning to do it. Big screen is not necessary nor easy to deal with. The buttons are littered everywhere and it is hard to find them. There are plenty cars on the market, that are more user-friendly. But knowing the company it comes from... You should stop experimenting Renault!
Would love to see a head to head comparison against the Honda e and every other small car out there!
aviva las vegas I believe the Honda e have significant lower range. Like 180 km or something
left-hand-drive? not from the UK?
UK voted OUT of Europe, what else do you want?
The UK demo cars for the press release were LHD cars which were on sale in Europe-RHD models are on the way now..
I'm 6'2 and had to sit in one to make sure my head fit. Unfortunately my eye comes in line with the top of the window...
Rediculous why they don't have a height adjuster as everything else with the car was perfect for my needs. Or even just raise the front windscreen by an inche so I can actually see traffic lights when I pull up to a junction. Not have to stick my head out the door window
The issue with the new Zoe and it’s bigger battery pack is the inability to charge at a higher rate. That means it’s slower to fill up the bigger battery.
Bigger battery also means less frequent charging, so it might compensate depending on use case.
Love this but wish it didn't look so cartoon-ish, prefer the e-208 imo
The Corsa-E is my choice for the best looking EV this year
I'd buy one egg shaped zoe if it was levitating, if not, there are cooler options
@@soundslave They're built on the same platform I believe but yeah, it's a close one between e-208 and corsa-e for me
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! More to the point is to ask your panel-beater/repairer how hard/expensive is it to fix? Or don't prang it!
Peugeot 208e is my favourite.
No mention of assisted driving? I understand this car is in the lower-priced category but this is where the future is so doesn't bode well for Renault.
Now I would buy a car for the bus like driving position he's not so keen on.
eww how old are you?
Yup. Great for a city car. These guys seem to want everything to be sporty.
Yes, I also like the driving position!!
For all of you considering buying a Renault Zoe with a battery lease BEWARE!!! I have a 2013 Renault Zoe and my battery health has fallen to 70% after 84,000 miles - I am getting a full range charge of just 45 miles now. You might think it is easy to get a replacement battery from Renault Finance when the battery health falls below 75% (as per the agreement), well it is NOT! I am currently having a nightmare battle with Renault. I have been a firm supporter of electric cars and the Renault Zoe but my opinion is now changing and I am considering going back to petrol, something I never imagined for all these years. Renault are seriously damaging the electric car market with their appalling customer service.
Have a look at an entry level EV the Renault K-ZE, nice mini SUV under $9,999 with 250 km range. Good to see some decent, under 10K over 250 km EV's coming on. This is what we need.
But remember that under 250 km is getting close to the 30kWh Leaf. That's around 5 years too late for the target market. People want 300 km to 325 km range, so that town drivers can recharge weekly, and main road drivers aren’t stopping to recharge for ⅓ of the total journey time.
So how long will I have to wait before I can purchase an electric car for around £300 ? 😂
10 years at least then you can buy used Lada electric cars 9 years old.
SMGJohn I’ll keep my Citroen c1 until then lol 😂
When the battery dies and costs 10k£ to replace
When there is no more charge in battery
Tesla is by far the only brand to buy at this point for the price point and quality...these other car makers are just trying to get some sales in while tesla can't make enough yet for the demand.
Hi, Useful vidéo as I have a 2020 Intens. Helpful info,. BTW, there is an accessories for the trunk which hides the cables.
I Would like a video on the complex remote heating system. I’m baffled as to how to program it from home.
All the best, Richard
Issues with the App meant remote heat control wasn't yet available..Hearing in August 2020 that a dealer visit might be needed for a fix for early cars..Later cars would have had the fix in production.
The thing that writes off the Renault Zoe for me is that you purchase the car and then have to rent the battery on top of that which essentially wipes out the single cost advantage EV's have in terms of their low running costs. For that reason I would be far more likely to look at something like the e-Golf. I know that you can technically buy yourself out of renting it but that is a hidden extra cost which is enough that you might as well go for a higher quality vehicle which has the cost of the battery in the base price.
It isn't mandatory to rent the battery. You may buy the whole package too.
@@PhilippeMarchand-xw1zp Can't rent batteries at all. Did you guys not watch the video?
The Zoe50 battery is owned for UK release,not rented..Previous Zoes were less expensive as the battery rental made the car cheaper up front.the price bump reflects this.
Lots of customer reviews saying the car is unreliable with numerous faults.
How come your test result is just the Average of the two summer and winter range of the car?
This may be a stupid question, but how come in the video the driver side is on the left, but when you order the car it's on the right?
Because they're made for both left-hand and right-hand drive markets
What place was that in the uk?
Spit seat been avail on previous model
It came in later on in the R110...Mine didn't..
I always thought the Renaults were pretty reliable -- the French make great trains apparently.
How have Mini managed to squeeze such little range into their new electric car compared to Renault??
Luke Éclair Battery size!
No height adjustment for the seat? Did I hear that correctly?
Same as every other Zoe...
My Renault’s battery lost 25% capacity at 45000 kms , 35% at 65000 kms... And Renault still resists to accept its own warranty promise for the battery since then... A car is Nothing without a proper service.
R110 or R135 motors? But which is most efficient in it's conversion of electrical energy to mechanical energy?
Hi um could you recommend any electric cars that is good for a family of 5??!!
I took my 6' brother,his wife,and their 2 (preteen) kids to the airport in my Zoe 40 after last christmas..and their luggage in the boot..how big do you want?
Hey @whatcar do you know how much renault charges for motor repair on zoe? Its 10000 pounds.. as a journalist are you happy to recommend this car with such a hight cost of repair when things go wrong?
3:24 legroom isn’t impressive ???
It’s worth noting that as this report features the European version, the U.K. spec car does NOT have the material dash and gear surround, which are synthetic leather in the U.K. cars. Also you will see that the Bose sound system is not available in the December Zoe Brochure. Also for me it’s disappointing that it does not have Active Cruise Control. ACC.
Bose sound is an option on the GT Line in the current brochure.
Great car. Still too expensive though but that will change with time....and competition.
Great car but again the only problem I have is they won't sell or service one in the U.S.
Sounds like an easy problem to have. Can't get one.
The screen doesn't look quite so "stuck on with gaffer tape" as the last one, but that's only because it's bigger.
Mmmm, best small EV? I still prefer the BMW i3 overall, though the i3 rear doors are not for everyone, it has a fabulous interior for 2, nippy performance and timeless style.
How does it compare to an equally sized petrol car economically ? Is it cheaper to run ?
The more you drive, the more you save. Found an older article about the R90 Zoe and the cost per mile was about 52.2p. Depends a bit how you charge etc. naturally. This is with residuals etc. counted in. It's cheaper than petrol after probably like 30 miles a day driving.
@@esaedvik And the more renewable energy is pumped into the grid the cheaper it'll become I imagine.
For my current Zoe I pay £0.05 per kWhr overnight, so worst case example of 3 miles per kWhr works out at £0.016 per mile, compared to about £0.15 per mile in a 40 MPG petrol car.
@@grier2593 Is that correct ? More than nine times less ??? Oil's in for a dive, BIG dive lol !
@@johannesbekker1970 yeah for sure, it does rely on being able to charge from home and swapping to an overnight tariff with a company like Octopus Energy. If you relied on public rapid charging then it could get up to £0.10 per mile.
Quite often workplaces and some car parks offer free slow charging, which makes the £ per mile even less.
Also remember that a lot of the cost of petrol is tax, home electricity is only 8% VAT in comparison.
I decided to go and buy one this week to replace a 2011 Smart Fortwo i leave in the garage all year only use it like 10 days a year. My government will pay half the price of the Zoe, minus the value of the trade in.. I should get away with 5k for a new car
Comparing with Tesla ? , hardly meant to be in the same bracket
Great looking car !
How tall are you? Can we get a review from a short person as well as standard?
As long as some EVs have an absolute ridiculous driving position - such as the Zoe or the Ampera-E - it will never get mainstream. I want to sit in a car, not on top of it.
So don't buy a Zoe or Ampera-E - there are lots of alternatives. Try ev-database.uk/
The £30,000 Clio 🤔 🤦♀️ (Dont worry you will save £2000 in fuel 🙄) which means you would have only wasted £12,000 as supposed to *wasting £14,000 😢 if you were to buy a Clio*
niceguy60 over 3 years with tax, fuel etc it will prove cheaper
Why is the output power of the electric motor expressed in HP instead of kW 🤷♂️
Here in Australia we even use kW when talking about IC engines’ output !
DumplingKing 101 Fair comment, just an observation tho, James Watt after all was British!
I just find it weird that, in general, when talking abt Electrical power we, and you (in the UK) use the Watt.
KiloWatts is for kettles.
Kilowatts are the Euro unit as well, some still choose to ignore them though. It's been official since like 20+years.
Why does no one talk about the next to useless heater?
Saw this one today
Sadly the safety I. 0 Star in ncap. Because they removed som safty for bling bling in the cabine
I have a question about this car. But waiting for you to answer seems slower than google. No, not the 'what car' group, you.
I'm still not sure if the leased battery would work for my driving. it appears expensive on paper. But I don't know If it would work out better than buying fuel?
He said the option of leasing the battery is no longer available.
2020 captur please !
Looks ok + great range unlike the polarizing BMW i3
It’s sad that the touchscreen runs an OS that looks like its from Nokia in 2010
£460 for a 3 pin charging cable that would take about a week to charge the car - I'm not surprised it was only displayed on the screen briefly.
If you're mug enough to buy one at that price..
@@gergall1809 Quite. You can get them for a fraction of that.