previously when you try to drop a castle and your unit was on the foundation, that used to leave the foundation automatically. Now it keeps there forever and you need to move by yourself
I noticed another small bug with this button. When you select large groups of villagers (10 or more), the button will be missing and you can't drop off resources. But if you split that group into say 2 groups of 5 villages, both subgroups have the button where it should be.
@@AnimeFan-dl4qd Yes, but getting food is one of the biggest challenges early in Forest Nothing, because you don't have much space to build farms. With the trick you can have 10 lumberjacks chop 100 wood, right-click on your first farm and deposit 100 food.
Yeah, though it's kinda weird the gold and stone didn't turn into wood but the wood did turn into food for farmers. But should be an easy fix, checking their resources instead of the profession
The problem is that I think the QCs play normal games, normal build orders and just check if the feature works "as intended". They need to hire QCs like the spiffing brit who'll find everything that breaks the game because how annoying must the coding for this game be if dropping off resources causes dumb bugs like these
Yeah from what I’ve heard, the original programmers were absolute experts in C/C++ who were doing a ton of clever and whacky stuff to get the programming to work just right. As a result, it’s apparently really hard to work with it properly when it comes to systems updates like this (All this is secondhand from what others have said so don’t take it as fact)
this sort of interaction should be the first edge case you try tho. Like, if you even try to think "what could be an edge case here?", wouldn't this be one of the first to come to mind?
this is actually just a more egregious version an already existing exploit which is now more easy to execute by the new hotkey. A lot of people consider it a "skill"
I agree with you. The problem however is that I think the QCs play normal games, normal build orders and just check if the feature works "as intended". They need to hire QCs like the spiffing brit who'll find everything that breaks the game because how annoying must the coding for this game be if dropping off resources causes dumb bugs like these
The resource added must be inferred from the villager's 'profession' (farmer, lumberjack, ...). However I think it's not because of the new hotkey. Rather the feature that once you click a new resource you get to keep all of the old resource carried. In the old days all old resource was lost once you clicked a new type. (Carrying gold -> click wood -> lose carried gold). It must be an old solution in the code that worked until now.
yes it's a feature in DE villagers that allows villagers to "drop off" resources at a different economic building when they build it. The new hotkey allows villagers to be routed to the wrong building and force the drop off. Several ways it can be fixed but yes it's piggybacking off a DE feature that wasn't in the original game
Isnt that pretty known? Like taking deer, then Take shorefish and drop the food in the dock? I mean its food for food, but the working concept is the Same No?
Food is food, this is dropping of gold at a lumbercamp. The essence is the same, but "hunters" dropping food at docks not really a 'bug'. More of a design limitation. Villagers shouldn't lose their food when you switch from deer to fish (that'd be stupid). But a villager will switch from hunter to fisher. Which inherently alllows you to drop food off at a dock. So combine those two (three) rules and it's just something you'll have to accept with the current system (and honestly, it's fine, doesn't matter really)- This bug on the other hand, (even without being able to convert wood to food) is definitely a bug that can and should be fixed ASAP 11
As a software developer myself, I am starting to think that these devs are all juniors straight out of college. How do you allow something like that to happen?? How was this not discovered during testing??
so it checks the villager's occupation to see what resource type it is dropping off, or where it can drop off held resources, that's a bit of a code smell right there 😂 also seemingly it's done differently between stone/gold and food/wood since not everything turns to food? I'd love to see how this is implemented
Damn thats nuts. Imagine u have no food and u 2000 wood annnd have 30 villages on wood chopping, u highlight all villages on wood send them to a farm then click drop off resources them boom u have lots of food now. This is bad man, can be game changing
Stop blaming the code! Everyone keeps going on about 20 year old code must be spaghetti code. Not all legacy code is badly written. The original game worked too well for the codebase to be that bad. It's the updates that suck not the codebase.
I remember the good old times when you could reassign the vill to lose the resources on forest nothing to chop through faster, is that now also not possible anymore?
Remember when games would be finished after a few patches and not get patched to oblivion? I member. But hey, if there isn't a problem to fix might as well make them for job security, amiright
Technically it’s not a bug, before this patch you could still collect any resource like this.. SO LONG as the villagers haven’t started chopping wood or farming the previous resources weren’t lost it was only after they started collecting the new resources that they would lose the old one
I opened aoe2 after many years, hoping to replay some campaigns in this highly polished new version of the game. Was greeted with some idiotic text to speech reader set to 100000% volume and hidden settkng to turn it off and then ofc hotkeys. Need some hotkeys.. I set.... And mfer game reset them all to default right after starting the first game. MFING WASTEDAN HOUR. Apparently, it is MANDATORY to make some hotkeycustom profile to have a chance of saving them. I was left with barely any will to play it after such a greeting...
bro devs should just cancel these new changes, dunno, dont like these, pressing 1 button and the game doing everything for you feels kinda lame, and i'm not even high elo
To be fair I can't imagine this bug being abused so badly it breaks the game in a meaningful way. Seems like too much effort to gain a meaningful advantage in a real game. Probably viable sometimes, but I am sure it's more of an edge case
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"My wood became food"
Even Jesus didn't have that power.
@@li4b294 I wouldn’t dare speculate the limits of Jesus’s wood
vegans finally can play the game POG
high-end meme material right here in a clip
can i have a taste ☠️
Spirit of the Law's eyes must be twitching so bad right now.
My Arena builds are gonna be so tight.
As tight as yo momma
Bug abuse is not cool!
Thats what she said
111111
@@naveendennis then devs should fix the game properly instead of adding new broken things every update
Arena fast imp single farm incoming
you can also do it with 0 farms because you can just click on berries
It's a new tech called Transmutation
It's the Law of Equivalent Exchange
Well, let's hope it's fixed asap as possible
This is no ordinary spaghetti code. This is... _ADVANCED SPAGHETTI CODE_ .
Counters the mule cart
😂😂😂😂😂
previously when you try to drop a castle and your unit was on the foundation, that used to leave the foundation automatically. Now it keeps there forever and you need to move by yourself
I've noticed this as well.
Oh, I think I noticed this once, but chalked it up to something I did on accident. That makes sense though, it was right after the new patch.
I'm pretty sure this already happened in the previous patch too- very annoying
Ah yes, the bug that makes Dave go "MOOOO-!"
I noticed another small bug with this button. When you select large groups of villagers (10 or more), the button will be missing and you can't drop off resources. But if you split that group into say 2 groups of 5 villages, both subgroups have the button where it should be.
The genetically modified vills are now able to subsist on tree cellulose... Medieval dystopia
LET HIM COOK
New patch, new absurd bugs 11
Interesting for Forest Nothing.
without a gold pile, we only can convert wood into food, though
@@AnimeFan-dl4qd Yes, but getting food is one of the biggest challenges early in Forest Nothing, because you don't have much space to build farms. With the trick you can have 10 lumberjacks chop 100 wood, right-click on your first farm and deposit 100 food.
@@LJJ22I want to try this so bad, but I'm late finding it so for all I know they've already fixed it.
So it's coded to the villager "profession" (lumberjack etc.) but not to resources they carry
Yeah, though it's kinda weird the gold and stone didn't turn into wood but the wood did turn into food for farmers. But should be an easy fix, checking their resources instead of the profession
Age of Errors
It's not a bug, It's a feature 😂
sure bill.
The problem is that I think the QCs play normal games, normal build orders and just check if the feature works "as intended". They need to hire QCs like the spiffing brit who'll find everything that breaks the game because how annoying must the coding for this game be if dropping off resources causes dumb bugs like these
Yeah from what I’ve heard, the original programmers were absolute experts in C/C++ who were doing a ton of clever and whacky stuff to get the programming to work just right. As a result, it’s apparently really hard to work with it properly when it comes to systems updates like this
(All this is secondhand from what others have said so don’t take it as fact)
QC is playing fu campaigns...not even 1100 elo
Thata what the PUP is for
this sort of interaction should be the first edge case you try tho. Like, if you even try to think "what could be an edge case here?", wouldn't this be one of the first to come to mind?
@@user-sl6gn1ss8p yes, but the it wasn't noticed in the PuP as well
got to abuse that bug in forest nothing map
this is actually just a more egregious version an already existing exploit which is now more easy to execute by the new hotkey. A lot of people consider it a "skill"
Every single time they implement something... They need to do a crumb of testing before, should be obvious
I agree with you. The problem however is that I think the QCs play normal games, normal build orders and just check if the feature works "as intended". They need to hire QCs like the spiffing brit who'll find everything that breaks the game because how annoying must the coding for this game be if dropping off resources causes dumb bugs like these
This feature has been part of the PuP and thousands of players tested it
It's more of a problem that you can't possibly test all the possibilities that will be found once millions of people start playing it
As usual, no one finds the problems until after it's released. And then when it's found it's some big emergency.
@@SheldonMcGeeIt's unfortunate that not all the people who look for these issues don't do so on the PUP.
"Hey Ferb! I know what we're going to abuse today!"
The resource added must be inferred from the villager's 'profession' (farmer, lumberjack, ...).
However I think it's not because of the new hotkey. Rather the feature that once you click a new resource you get to keep all of the old resource carried.
In the old days all old resource was lost once you clicked a new type. (Carrying gold -> click wood -> lose carried gold).
It must be an old solution in the code that worked until now.
yes it's a feature in DE villagers that allows villagers to "drop off" resources at a different economic building when they build it. The new hotkey allows villagers to be routed to the wrong building and force the drop off. Several ways it can be fixed but yes it's piggybacking off a DE feature that wasn't in the original game
as soon asap as possible
As soon as possible as possible 😂
I hope it’s fixed as soon as ASAP as possible!
It should obviously be “as asap as possible”
Rip in peace!
Rest in RIP@@partlycurrent
smh my head
Maybe the Burmese just like eating branches, historically accurate 👌
As soon as possible AS POSSIBLE!!
I think it is fine sort of like how building a collection building or farm drop of all resources. But the food transmutation needs to be patched
can't wait for phosphorus next 14 pop fc
"And when I say asap I mean as soon as possible" - no way. Nobody could have thought that.
asap as possible - michael scott. he was setting up a reference
How do you not catch this in testing? At this point it's almost like they're leaving bugs to generate content or something
as soon as possible as possible
they also removed Shift clicking queue for garrisoning vills. Such bullshit.
Isnt that pretty known? Like taking deer, then Take shorefish and drop the food in the dock? I mean its food for food, but the working concept is the Same No?
yup, same exploit.
In that case it's still the same resource, in this case it's different resources and converting resources.
Food is food, this is dropping of gold at a lumbercamp. The essence is the same, but "hunters" dropping food at docks not really a 'bug'. More of a design limitation.
Villagers shouldn't lose their food when you switch from deer to fish (that'd be stupid). But a villager will switch from hunter to fisher. Which inherently alllows you to drop food off at a dock. So combine those two (three) rules and it's just something you'll have to accept with the current system (and honestly, it's fine, doesn't matter really)-
This bug on the other hand, (even without being able to convert wood to food) is definitely a bug that can and should be fixed ASAP 11
New and improved harvesting 🤩
Crazy how they generate more than solve bugs with each patch...
Last time I played, when you clicked different resource, the resource on the villager would simply disappear.
hahaha that was a looong time ago
As a software developer myself, I am starting to think that these devs are all juniors straight out of college. How do you allow something like that to happen?? How was this not discovered during testing??
so it checks the villager's occupation to see what resource type it is dropping off, or where it can drop off held resources, that's a bit of a code smell right there 😂 also seemingly it's done differently between stone/gold and food/wood since not everything turns to food? I'd love to see how this is implemented
How do you not test for this before release? Goofy.
R.I.P in peace AoE2
The second part is a problem, but the first part was already kind of in the game so it's not that big of a deal.
Wow they broke the game after an update. Who would have guessed 😂
Damn thats nuts. Imagine u have no food and u 2000 wood annnd have 30 villages on wood chopping, u highlight all villages on wood send them to a farm then click drop off resources them boom u have lots of food now. This is bad man, can be game changing
loool if anyone asks "what do you mean they break something everytime they do a patch!?!"
That’s putting food on the table 😂
Every time they add something there's 50 bugs along with it lmao. Spaghetti code
Stop blaming the code! Everyone keeps going on about 20 year old code must be spaghetti code. Not all legacy code is badly written. The original game worked too well for the codebase to be that bad. It's the updates that suck not the codebase.
@@neildutoit5177yeah we all know these are simple one liner codes, definitely not spaghetti. AOE devs aren't that talented
Can confirm. That is a nasty bug.
YOU'LL EAT YOUR WOOD AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!
ETA 2 months til fix
They have a lot more fixing to do. Too many enemies and villages glitching. Getting stuck in walls. The pathfinding still sucks
Hey Bipah, you can't shift-queue garrison vills either anymore, if you try to shift queue garrison the vill will hop in the Tc instantly. That sux =s
I bet that a vegetarian dev coded the second bug
I remember the good old times when you could reassign the vill to lose the resources on forest nothing to chop through faster, is that now also not possible anymore?
hasn't been for years
Remember when games would be finished after a few patches and not get patched to oblivion? I member. But hey, if there isn't a problem to fix might as well make them for job security, amiright
Why doesn't Gold/Stone turn into Wood?
that's not a bug, is a feature, also it happened in the Original AOE2
Can't believe they added alchemy to the game!
hahaha that food thing was even worse
Looks like this new feature is the feature bugged.
And tribut-payments in campagnes..
wow. that's pretty serious lol.
I wonder if you are Khmer and you click on a farm, can you drop resources from anywhere in that case?
How about Burgundians vineyards?
I tried with Khmer, it didn't work
The voices on campaings are not working 😢
I got 21 wood, too!
Really top notch developers 😂😂
Alchemy!
Thx for this eco tip!
Forest nothing will be insane
smh my head how could they let this happen
Hmm should obviously be fixed but i really doubt its going to affect anyones games
Technically it’s not a bug, before this patch you could still collect any resource like this.. SO LONG as the villagers haven’t started chopping wood or farming the previous resources weren’t lost it was only after they started collecting the new resources that they would lose the old one
The only bug I see is them dropping mining resources off at a lumber camp, and wood turning into food
@@traviskarnbach953 yes, that was the point, and that is a fairly major bug
I opened aoe2 after many years, hoping to replay some campaigns in this highly polished new version of the game. Was greeted with some idiotic text to speech reader set to 100000% volume and hidden settkng to turn it off and then ofc hotkeys. Need some hotkeys.. I set.... And mfer game reset them all to default right after starting the first game. MFING WASTEDAN HOUR. Apparently, it is MANDATORY to make some hotkeycustom profile to have a chance of saving them. I was left with barely any will to play it after such a greeting...
It's called alchemy
Dont worry, people dont want the gsme to be fixed, They just buy the dlcs "to support the game".
Pin number
ATM machine
bro devs should just cancel these new changes, dunno, dont like these, pressing 1 button and the game doing everything for you feels kinda lame, and i'm not even high elo
ALCHEMY!
15 pop fast imp incoming
Wowwww! How did you even figure this out!?
let me guess this bug might also changes from wood to gold/stone 😅
New meta dropped
Testing code is for nerds - aoe 2 devs
Who asked this mechanic to be added?
So, we can convert wood to food instantly just like that?
Cool!!!
Thanks for the tips! 😅
To be fair I can't imagine this bug being abused so badly it breaks the game in a meaningful way. Seems like too much effort to gain a meaningful advantage in a real game. Probably viable sometimes, but I am sure it's more of an edge case
it can be used to go up in dark age by getting food straight from straggler trees. very broken.
10 pop fast castle incoming
grassFail to the devs
It's just a higher level of gameplay bro, it's not a bug it's a new feature.
Why the hell dont they just fix the pathfinding instead of crap like this.
ASAP as possible is redundant and grammatically incorrect Mr. Viper. Please fix.
now its time to make new build orders with it considering the out of sync bug fixed in 20 years 🤣🤣
This already existed! You can farm food from berries then click a fish and drop that food off at a dock on nomad
yes but both are still food. this is converting 1:1 ratio of different resources.
smh my head
20+ years old game... Ffs!
Viper very amused pause
Still requires extra micro so this will only effect the pros. Us plebians on the ladder wont even notice it.
"ASAP as possible" 11
😅 great video... let the drama ensue