The game will never feel like tarkov because abi refines that feeling and makes it accessible to all. It isnt really aiming to be a gritty and impossible to play russian game
When you make a game for everyone, you make a game for nobody, the hype will die in a couple of months tops. Maybe I will be wrong, but there are already selling premium ammo like world of tanks.
Love to read the "but EFT is hardcore" comments. The only hard thing in Tarkov is the grind. The game literally rewards casual gameplay (camping in a bush, ratting, etc.). Meaning you have a ton of win conditions without being a good FPS player. If anything, ABI is harder simply because ratting for example is not really doable. Camping in a bush is also not as efficient. Every single casual way you could play the game is worse than in Tarkov. As for solo/duo, it's way harder than in EFT. But Nikita dissolved your minds with this idea that Tarkov is "hardcore". Once again, the hardest thing about EFT is the grind and the waste of time in loading screens and menus because the server infrastructure sucks and the QOL is abysmal.
Have you ever played EFT in your life? EFT is arguably the most realistic game in the world and real life is difficult. There is a map in the game you call arena, what are you talking about? You say the arena is more difficult, there is a compass, there is a map and ui, just like cod mobile, you made me laugh a lot.
Cause the maps are smaller and spawns are closer. I'm guessing you are rushing alot. This game doesnt have desync like tarkov does. So this game doesnt have peaker advantage
@@Regii632Thats a false statement, Farm is litteraly Customs with very similar spawns… when you play customs and have full server you always and up fighting instantly… the same applies to Valley…. Valley is just better woods…. But like on woods you often end up fighting with team from next spawn.
@@egiees well i might be wrong about map layout but about desync and peaker and advantage i am right alot of agresive tarkov players who knows how to push because of desync and they used to the gameplay like that. If you remove the desync problem they have too slow reaction to react to players location i tested it out. Thats why in this flashes are more important to push
Couldn't agree more. At the moment its not scratching the itch of what tarkov can make you feel when playing. The name plates have a lot to do with that. Hopefully they can add a game mode where you are able to play without name plates, friendly fire off, no grenade icon when throwing them. Now that tarkov has a true competitor, i hope tarkov ups its game and listens to the community more.
lol , been there several times , matchmaking in mobile somehow just stick you up with whatever squad available even they on different server , getting 300ms in this kind of game is pain in the ass , well unless you tick the low ping setting ofc , but i like fast matchmaking
It only shows that in the lobby for some reason. When you load into the match it's normal. Some lobby shenanigans, they will fix it in open beta or release. There are also "tap" prompts in tutorial instead of click lol
If I asked someone about Harry Potter and they launched into all the things they don't like about Lord of the Rings, I'd have some questions about their motive.
I feel this game make BSG took tarkov seriously bcuz if BSG destroy the game people will leave and play arena instead so probably arena will fix tarkov
Played for a good 20hrs, after that just got bored. QoL compared to Tarkov is amazing. Quests are meh, maps are meh. I didnt really connect with world, level design is pretty average. Gunplay is good. ABI solves a lot of problems Eft has, unfortunately just blatantly copied from it.
Atmosphere and immersion is what it seems to lack the most of. Now, to some, that's not a big deal, but to people like us, it's most of the experience.
@@Jaguar21010 Yeah frankly, i didnt care abt the atmosphere at all. It just didnt feel immersive even after looking at it objectively. It takes a lot to carefully craft something and another thing to just copy an idea just because. People flaming Eft for no reason either havent experienced it in full or just plain bad at the game hehe.
As a mobile player seeing gameplay of the maps: it’s a bit disappointing to see how soulless and empty the maps feel, ESPECIALLY Farm. Instead of open fields with little cover there’s usually some trees and foliage/terrain to make the map seem more visually pleasing but in game it just looks like a famine hit.
lmao, ppl still don't realize that the dev team's publisher is Tencent. Tencent has their hands in a lot of game companies. they have fuck you money. ppl forget that BSG is publishing their own game and working with a dogshit engine. eventually Tencent will want their money back and the microtransactions will be turned on. then all the streamers will be pikachu face, "vote with their wallet" and move on to the next extraction shooter.
Everyone knows its fucking Tencent of course it's gonna have microtransactions not only that but because it's a Free Game, they are not some dumbass hard-seething company who can't price their not-a-feature dlc correctly. Plus they already mastered the arts in CN mobile version of the game, so I don't think the microtransactions won't matter that much.
Have you ever played stalker dude. Like the original series. Not watched an essay on youtube, actually played. This comment above that people watch some dumb youtube video and think "oh tarkov was LOOSELY inspired by stalker therefore it is a copy
Both bad games not worth my time Close though. Just to tedious and boring for a gameplay loop I’ll wait for a better dayz/tarkov to come along. Till then I ignore the tactical shooter genre side of gaming
There is no mechanic in the game that will make it pay 2 win cuz all of the items are available in game There is no item that is behind paywalls the micro transactions will only have subscription and battle pass that will have skins and weapon and armor bundles but those were not going to affect the gameplay cuz everything on it is grindables except for the cosmetic of course
I disagree. Arena breakout is just so much worse than tarkov in general. I got into the closed beta played it for a day and then went back to tarkov daily.
@___Six___ It feels so casual. It points you towards every objective. You can buy top-tier gear at any time on the market. The recoil is unrealistic and ridiculous, like old tarkov was. There's a few other things I'm sure I could bring up. But I'm just not enjoying it. I got to lvl 15 and went back to tarkov arena is just not as good.
an experincer AB player here cheater are rare and few, through out 4 season and 3 CBT test that i played i only encounter a dozen or so, and they get banned rather quickly, when an account is flagged by report as supicious the game give them either 1 day or 3 day ban, if the game cannot prove the flagged player with high gurantee as cheater, if after the ban they still get flagged, they got 10 years ban, which is effectively the same as perma ban, for blatant and obvious cheater, they game out right give them the afformention 10 years ban edit: fixes some typo
@@Project_1143M sry but your experience is irrelevant here mobile cheating and pc cheating is a whole another world plus from what ive seen on forums you could buy cheats for abi 8 hours after the start of closed beta and most of them are still undetected
Game is in beta for almost 9 years if we include alpha with 2017 bugs like seeing through rocks to the other side still in the game. Game will "release" in 1.0 then die after a year or 2. ABI is on it's 8th season and is adding in the M249 and possibly bipods. EFT still can't give us variable zoom or quick move to container, Stash Search or the ability to tag containers with specific items. Hell there's mods that auto sell for you in SPT shit to flea that BSG refuses to put in because it's fun lol
Unless they port tarkov to UE5 instead of garbage unity but it seems they can't do it since after a decade game is still in closed beta and It's feels outdated already lol.
Just change their current map system so that maps you bring into raid are actual UIs that you can see players and objectives on. Current map system is a JOKE and maybe less than 1% of players actually use Tarkov maps. Cause the design is god awful and hard to read. Just this one improvement would make so many players stay. Dont get me wrong, in my 3k hours of Tarkov learning maps was actually fun. BUT I HAD TO WANT TO DO IT. This is not quality of life for your average player - your average fps player is USED to UI, they crave it, they depend on it. If you want to retain your average player, you must appease in some way to what they're used to playing. I think my turning your map into a physical item, one that you CAN lose every raid, will give players the ability to use a map function but also require them to sink a rouble cost into per raid, thus increasing the top dollar amount for their kit. So say if on average a kit costs 100k, it will immediately cost 10-20k more everytime if you want to run a map. This will never be put in the game. But, I think itd be cool.
There's really no point on your system if they can just open the map in the wiki on a seperate monitor and just do as is. 1) It doesn't cost you anything 2) Its a pretty shitty system that only serves to inconvenience players, thus making it obsolete.
@@wutdio4353 What you said makes zero sense at all and doesn't regard what I said. I know it was a lot for you to read, but try taking another look because what I suggested has nothing to do with 3rd party systems that aren't integrated into the game itself; lacking player pings and mission pings. Yes, I realize some map services offer missions, but its only filterable by EVERY mission on the map. Meaning , instead of seeing only the mission you have, you see every mission the map possibly has. Again, try reading my post because theres zero inconvenience in providing this to the players. Youre outright batshit mental if you view this as a "inconvenience."
Not to mention mapgenie, which is arguably the best 3rd party map source, locks certain maps behind a paywall. Yeah, real convenient. Guess Ill look at a static map, those are well made, oh wait except I cant filter anything out on those and Im just sitting there figuring out which icon means what for which of the 50-100 missions there are on said map. Please hit me with another copium response.
well wrong they can .. its jsut matter if they want to.. i mean Tarkov is meant to be hard its not for casual players and kids.. you go there get your ass slapped than you leave as most of people do or you stay an fight :D simple as that
Fun fact escape from tarkov, in addition to being an extraction shooter, is an RPG with tedious mechanics so that people spend their time playing and grinding, (and even so after 7 years it still doesn't work)
The only hard thing in Tarkov is the grind. The game literally rewards casual gameplay (camping, ratting, etc.). Meaning you have a ton of win conditions without being good at the game. If anything, ABI is harder simply because ratting for example is not really doable. Camping in a bush is also not as efficient. Every single casual way you could play the game is worse than in Tarkov. But Nikita disolved your minds with this idea that Tarkov is "hardcore". Once again, the hardest thing about EFT is the grind and the waste of time in loading screens and menus because the server infrastructure sucks and the QOL is abysmal.
Games honestly better lol. Never played tarkov and probably never will. So many people have told me you have to play for hundreds of hours before you start having fun in tarkov. This game is honestly just better.
Arena: Quality of Life
Tarkov: Is Tarkov
Arena: Boring after a day.
Tarkov: Is like fentynal. It's terrible but you love it and want more.
@@immrd but it's very low quality fentanyl
@@immrd I agreed with the "terrible but want more" until I had a version that just... wasn't terrible.
The game will never feel like tarkov because abi refines that feeling and makes it accessible to all. It isnt really aiming to be a gritty and impossible to play russian game
When you make a game for everyone, you make a game for nobody, the hype will die in a couple of months tops. Maybe I will be wrong, but there are already selling premium ammo like world of tanks.
@@Stein871 have you played it?z
@@mrmercenarysc i'm not installing chinese spyware on my pc
@@Stein871 🤣 u're using Windows man, you're already in the system. But I'll be honest with you, so you can feel safer - nobody cares about you
@@mrmercenarysc projecting much?
Well, im now all about Arena Breakout. It feels like Tarkov enough for me. Im glad we have two games to play and I hope BSG steps it up
Love to read the "but EFT is hardcore" comments. The only hard thing in Tarkov is the grind. The game literally rewards casual gameplay (camping in a bush, ratting, etc.). Meaning you have a ton of win conditions without being a good FPS player. If anything, ABI is harder simply because ratting for example is not really doable. Camping in a bush is also not as efficient. Every single casual way you could play the game is worse than in Tarkov. As for solo/duo, it's way harder than in EFT. But Nikita dissolved your minds with this idea that Tarkov is "hardcore". Once again, the hardest thing about EFT is the grind and the waste of time in loading screens and menus because the server infrastructure sucks and the QOL is abysmal.
Well put
they say its only hard because theres so much cheating/hackers
Have you ever played EFT in your life? EFT is arguably the most realistic game in the world and real life is difficult. There is a map in the game you call arena, what are you talking about? You say the arena is more difficult, there is a compass, there is a map and ui, just like cod mobile, you made me laugh a lot.
@@sh9959 tarkov the most realistic game out there.....okay..
@@sh9959 QoL does not mean not hardcore like the OP said Nikita has corrupted your minds with the word hardcore and twisted its meaning
Feels addicting to me anyway
I’m a tarkov player and this game feels super hard to me. Die so fast and recoil is rough. Anyone else?
I'm level 18 but still ass in this game
same
Cause the maps are smaller and spawns are closer. I'm guessing you are rushing alot. This game doesnt have desync like tarkov does. So this game doesnt have peaker advantage
@@Regii632Thats a false statement, Farm is litteraly Customs with very similar spawns… when you play customs and have full server you always and up fighting instantly… the same applies to Valley…. Valley is just better woods…. But like on woods you often end up fighting with team from next spawn.
@@egiees well i might be wrong about map layout but about desync and peaker and advantage i am right alot of agresive tarkov players who knows how to push because of desync and they used to the gameplay like that. If you remove the desync problem they have too slow reaction to react to players location i tested it out. Thats why in this flashes are more important to push
Couldn't agree more. At the moment its not scratching the itch of what tarkov can make you feel when playing. The name plates have a lot to do with that. Hopefully they can add a game mode where you are able to play without name plates, friendly fire off, no grenade icon when throwing them.
Now that tarkov has a true competitor, i hope tarkov ups its game and listens to the community more.
Sitting in a + 300 ping lobby be like:
lol , been there several times , matchmaking in mobile somehow just stick you up with whatever squad available even they on different server , getting 300ms in this kind of game is pain in the ass , well unless you tick the low ping setting ofc , but i like fast matchmaking
It’s only like that in the lobby
It only shows that in the lobby for some reason. When you load into the match it's normal. Some lobby shenanigans, they will fix it in open beta or release.
There are also "tap" prompts in tutorial instead of click lol
When can we play this? Someone enlight me please
in a few months maybe, but you can get a beta key from twitch streams
Lol now I want to try it…hope it’s not addictive
fair
+1000 social credit
Arena breakout is the Nice girl ,maybe to nice and tarkov is the goth girl mentaly instable ,but hot '-'
True
If I asked someone about Harry Potter and they launched into all the things they don't like about Lord of the Rings, I'd have some questions about their motive.
until you get mods
SPT is the answer
I feel this game make BSG took tarkov seriously bcuz if BSG destroy the game people will leave and play arena instead so probably arena will fix tarkov
Tarkov feels like shit this game is 1000% better in every way and its still early access! Wild
quality of life and tarkov; no shit
Tarkov is ok, but Arena Breakout: Infinite I am alergic in Tencents company, NO REDS I mean.
soon the cringe cheaters will come and fuck it up anyway.
I hope people know tarkov is also copy of arma 3 extraction.
Played for a good 20hrs, after that just got bored. QoL compared to Tarkov is amazing. Quests are meh, maps are meh. I didnt really connect with world, level design is pretty average. Gunplay is good. ABI solves a lot of problems Eft has, unfortunately just blatantly copied from it.
Atmosphere and immersion is what it seems to lack the most of. Now, to some, that's not a big deal, but to people like us, it's most of the experience.
@@Jaguar21010 Yeah frankly, i didnt care abt the atmosphere at all. It just didnt feel immersive even after looking at it objectively. It takes a lot to carefully craft something and another thing to just copy an idea just because. People flaming Eft for no reason either havent experienced it in full or just plain bad at the game hehe.
Same, ABI felt off/empty, they could not copy the vibe of tarkov, its like how BF2042 could not copy BF1's immersion
As a mobile player seeing gameplay of the maps: it’s a bit disappointing to see how soulless and empty the maps feel, ESPECIALLY Farm.
Instead of open fields with little cover there’s usually some trees and foliage/terrain to make the map seem more visually pleasing but in game it just looks like a famine hit.
Take notes Nikita
He won't, he thinks everyone is wrong but him
this guy is prank really. He talk he will not play this becauwse of thermal etc and yeaaaahhh
"ok shroud say this for one jabilion dolers" shoud : ok 👎
lmao, ppl still don't realize that the dev team's publisher is Tencent. Tencent has their hands in a lot of game companies. they have fuck you money. ppl forget that BSG is publishing their own game and working with a dogshit engine. eventually Tencent will want their money back and the microtransactions will be turned on. then all the streamers will be pikachu face, "vote with their wallet" and move on to the next extraction shooter.
Everyone knows its fucking Tencent of course it's gonna have microtransactions not only that but because it's a Free Game, they are not some dumbass hard-seething company who can't price their not-a-feature dlc correctly. Plus they already mastered the arts in CN mobile version of the game, so I don't think the microtransactions won't matter that much.
And bsg still splits 10s of millions of USD to their founding members. Fuck development and server improvements.
@@Talrath I'd love to see proof of that. No links?
"The financial report that killed tarkov" ua-cam.com/video/o6T_QnCoTz8/v-deo.htmlsi=3TOP7XaINGHqWakM
Let's turn our heads from all the p2w editions tarkov has 😂
people mad about ABI being Tarkov ripoff when Tarkov is itself a ripoff of Stalker. Lmao. Nothing wrong with it though. Its just ironic
Have you ever played stalker dude. Like the original series. Not watched an essay on youtube, actually played. This comment above that people watch some dumb youtube video and think "oh tarkov was LOOSELY inspired by stalker therefore it is a copy
bro is on to nothing
I like how everyone forgot about Gay Zone Warfare
It's a different kind of game. It overlaps here and there but honestly it's got a lot of Arma influence.
Frey one got alots of fans on its own, and different aspects and open world too , that’s why they can’t compare GZW to EFT and ABI
He said a lot without answering anything.
Both bad games not worth my time
Close though. Just to tedious and boring for a gameplay loop
I’ll wait for a better dayz/tarkov to come along. Till then I ignore the tactical shooter genre side of gaming
TLDR both game sucks lol. Well at least ABI had their game working so thumbs up for that
TARKOV IS THE MOST HARDCORE GAME PROVE ME WRONG.....
.....and try to survive rubberbanding through the "streets of tarkov"
Will see after they release it. Have a feeling that its gonna be p2w :/
There is no mechanic in the game that will make it pay 2 win cuz all of the items are available in game There is no item that is behind paywalls the micro transactions will only have subscription and battle pass that will have skins and weapon and armor bundles but those were not going to affect the gameplay cuz everything on it is grindables except for the cosmetic of course
Mobile version has been out for a while now and it's not p2w.
@@MarkoVuckovic32 we will see, producers greed knows no limits
Idk feels like tarkov to me lol
nah really? feels like fortnite to me
@@slogZz60 go get your brain scanned.
I disagree. Arena breakout is just so much worse than tarkov in general. I got into the closed beta played it for a day and then went back to tarkov daily.
For what reason that made you quit the game?
@___Six___ It feels so casual. It points you towards every objective. You can buy top-tier gear at any time on the market. The recoil is unrealistic and ridiculous, like old tarkov was. There's a few other things I'm sure I could bring up. But I'm just not enjoying it. I got to lvl 15 and went back to tarkov arena is just not as good.
@@saskmuddinatv Well said, good opinion as usual.
@@saskmuddinatv Everything is buyable cuz its in beta stage
@saskmuddinatv no shit it's meant to be more casual than tarkov 😂 did you even watch the video?
When the cheaters flood in lets see what tune people play about Arena.
an experincer AB player here
cheater are rare and few, through out 4 season and 3 CBT test that i played
i only encounter a dozen or so, and they get banned rather quickly, when an account is flagged by report as supicious the game give them either 1 day or 3 day ban, if the game cannot prove the flagged player with high gurantee as cheater, if after the ban they still get flagged, they got 10 years ban, which is effectively the same as perma ban, for blatant and obvious cheater, they game out right give them the afformention 10 years ban
edit: fixes some typo
@@Project_1143M you aren’t experienced, the game hasn’t even come out yet on PC 🤣
@@Project_1143M sry but your experience is irrelevant here mobile cheating and pc cheating is a whole another world plus from what ive seen on forums you could buy cheats for abi 8 hours after the start of closed beta and most of them are still undetected
imagine the clusterfuck when it goes open
@@Optimusprime56241 Mobile?
do you forget the game is first launched in mobile?
tarkov is still unfinish game
Lmao okay buddy
@@fritzplay2746 Haha it is though, "buddy"
And it will stay unfinished
Still in beta😂😂😂7. Years. Later.
Game is in beta for almost 9 years if we include alpha with 2017 bugs like seeing through rocks to the other side still in the game. Game will "release" in 1.0 then die after a year or 2. ABI is on it's 8th season and is adding in the M249 and possibly bipods. EFT still can't give us variable zoom or quick move to container, Stash Search or the ability to tag containers with specific items. Hell there's mods that auto sell for you in SPT shit to flea that BSG refuses to put in because it's fun lol
Lost Light, now this? Its copy and paste. The only reason why this got any traction is because its the FOTM
dude is huffing that copium haaard
It's in mobile for like a few years now, of course people are dying to see it on PC ya doofus
Keep on coping
Except it's way better than Lost Light.
Unless they port tarkov to UE5 instead of garbage unity but it seems they can't do it since after a decade game is still in closed beta and It's feels outdated already lol.
no one cares on shroud opinion hes so bored to play any game
Just change their current map system so that maps you bring into raid are actual UIs that you can see players and objectives on. Current map system is a JOKE and maybe less than 1% of players actually use Tarkov maps. Cause the design is god awful and hard to read.
Just this one improvement would make so many players stay.
Dont get me wrong, in my 3k hours of Tarkov learning maps was actually fun. BUT I HAD TO WANT TO DO IT. This is not quality of life for your average player - your average fps player is USED to UI, they crave it, they depend on it. If you want to retain your average player, you must appease in some way to what they're used to playing.
I think my turning your map into a physical item, one that you CAN lose every raid, will give players the ability to use a map function but also require them to sink a rouble cost into per raid, thus increasing the top dollar amount for their kit. So say if on average a kit costs 100k, it will immediately cost 10-20k more everytime if you want to run a map.
This will never be put in the game. But, I think itd be cool.
There's really no point on your system if they can just open the map in the wiki on a seperate monitor and just do as is.
1) It doesn't cost you anything
2) Its a pretty shitty system that only serves to inconvenience players, thus making it obsolete.
@@wutdio4353 What you said makes zero sense at all and doesn't regard what I said. I know it was a lot for you to read, but try taking another look because what I suggested has nothing to do with 3rd party systems that aren't integrated into the game itself; lacking player pings and mission pings. Yes, I realize some map services offer missions, but its only filterable by EVERY mission on the map. Meaning , instead of seeing only the mission you have, you see every mission the map possibly has.
Again, try reading my post because theres zero inconvenience in providing this to the players. Youre outright batshit mental if you view this as a "inconvenience."
Not to mention mapgenie, which is arguably the best 3rd party map source, locks certain maps behind a paywall. Yeah, real convenient. Guess Ill look at a static map, those are well made, oh wait except I cant filter anything out on those and Im just sitting there figuring out which icon means what for which of the 50-100 missions there are on said map. Please hit me with another copium response.
@@NuclearBong Wait are we talking about Tarkov bruh that's why it's confusing.
well wrong they can .. its jsut matter if they want to.. i mean Tarkov is meant to be hard its not for casual players and kids.. you go there get your ass slapped than you leave as most of people do or you stay an fight :D simple as that
Fun fact is that the game is designed for gun and run min max kids.
Fun fact escape from tarkov, in addition to being an extraction shooter, is an RPG with tedious mechanics so that people spend their time playing and grinding, (and even so after 7 years it still doesn't work)
Because you are a Virgin that play tarkov 24/7 don't make tarkov a good game, go get some sun
@@leonelantoniodelgadomedina8675 define work lol, works fine for me
The only hard thing in Tarkov is the grind. The game literally rewards casual gameplay (camping, ratting, etc.). Meaning you have a ton of win conditions without being good at the game. If anything, ABI is harder simply because ratting for example is not really doable. Camping in a bush is also not as efficient. Every single casual way you could play the game is worse than in Tarkov. But Nikita disolved your minds with this idea that Tarkov is "hardcore". Once again, the hardest thing about EFT is the grind and the waste of time in loading screens and menus because the server infrastructure sucks and the QOL is abysmal.
Copy and paste Tarkov
cry about it lol
Games honestly better lol. Never played tarkov and probably never will. So many people have told me you have to play for hundreds of hours before you start having fun in tarkov. This game is honestly just better.
@@ToobRusttarkov fun factor starts when you learn all that RPG bs and ends with constant head eyes.
@@sefin84And in the same way they will have you farming like a bitch every 6 months, very good Nikita
if its copy and paste how is it better?
in terms of quality of life = easy
tarkov= hard
easy = arcade
hard = realism
tarkov can eaisly destroy these shit mobile games
Keep huffing that copium
tarkov is ass
tarkov is ass
250$ game and free game , don't forget this
boys we found a true believer right here