@@KingShibe you can't just say that and exclude like knull didnt exist. He just got introduced. But saying he didn't exist is like erasing every comic he was in
I honestly think riot just killed eddie not expecting venom to go back inside him because they both knew the risks, so he just assumed venom would be terrified to go back inside and he could make his escape
While he could've been planning to have the other Symbiotes kill off all the Xenophages, all he would've done was accelerate the extinction of his race, since the Xenophages all had healing powers.
At the time, the filmmakers did not yet know that Eddie's death and Venom's resurrection of him would have some deeper meaning in the future. And as for the plot itself, it seems to me that Riot simply did not take into account that Venom would risk creating a codex to save the host. Riot was unlikely to be the type to be concerned about the fate of his host. If Drake for some reason had been killed before the action in rocket then Symbiont would have quickly looked for a new host, he would not have wasted time resurrecting the scientist.
No, he chose earth over his own people. The whole Venom 3 plot probably wasn’t even drafted yet, and this movie came out around the time Knull was even created.
@@The_Black_Falchionyou said it venom chose the human race (earth) over his own people....and that makes him a traitor Only for a good cause... but still you can't denied that he is a traitor to his own race....
@ No, what I said if you actually read it is that Riot did not say traitor about him making a codex because that plot point didn’t even exist yet. You can’t retroactively make something fit like that if you know that’s not what happened. Next time read what the actual comment says.
I know this might seem crazy but this is a valid theory if u pay atention to the first venom movie when riot and his host was talking he told his host that he would lead millions of his kind to earth and this might support this theory to kill xenophages thats why i think this is a valid theory and in let there be carnage i think the part of venom (carnage) knew that eddie and venom had a codex thats why he said one of us must die i dont think he just wanted to kill eddie and venom because remember parts of symbiotes can split memories which could make this true
Riot killed Eddie just to kill em. He didn’t expect venom to revive him, cause even venom knew the stakes of reviving Eddie. Riot wanted to lead in general and takeover earth by bringing a symbiote army back to earth to invade. Riot never had anything to do with Knull.
^^^Riot’s whole plan was to bring back more symbiotes so they could take over Earth. Riot wasn’t looking to co-exist in peace, it would’ve been a parasitic relationship where the symbiotes would just inhabit humans and takeover. Venom learned to co-exist because of the things he picked up and learned from his time with Eddie.
Killing a host is like killing then since he didn’t think venom was crazy enough to revive Eddie that would also be why he said traitor after seeing him again
I think it cuz he thought he got rid of venom and that Eddie would just die. And even with the chance he was a live the rocket would just incinerate them
1 of those xeno things proved it can take out some of the strongest symbiotes we’ve seen. AT THE SAME TIME no chance an army even stands a chance against 10 of those things.
i was so pissed when i saw them kill that one xenophage with the chopper blades like why couldnt they just spam that move!!? the symbiotes kept dying left and right
probably Riot didnt expect Venom will save Eddie, thats why he kill Eddie, Riot sait traitor is probably have double meaning, first is because Venom stop Riot to destroy earth, the second is that Venom revive Eddie and create codex.
I think this is more simpler, Riot just thought Venom can't get to Eddie in time, he probably thought venom died or something, They can't resurrect a dead body
If there is a third installment…the good thing is that there’ll be a lot of new victims to study. So it could take place of a family/friend/partner of the possessed and see what they’ll do to save them. Or people frantically trying to….traumatize other people.
Venom knew it was on him that’s why he sacrificed himself man hopfully my boa venom still alive I did not wanna see him go out like that n I want the same venom not a counter part venom
I thought this was mastermind knull setting up all this shi like Eddie dying and venom resurrecting and he gave boost to venom in venom 2 against carnage so venom can keep the codex safe
I might have a theory, maybe he actually looks up to Knull or maybe Knull convinced him to go to earth so that he could create a codex with one of the symbiotes and its host to free Knull
Hate to be THAT GUY but a few things that are worth mentioning; 1. The codex wasn’t created when Venom resurrected Eddie it was created when they first bonded which is why Riot commands Venom to get into the rocket. 2. The symbiote race is called the Klyntar. 3. I could be mistaken but I’m pretty sure that Knull could sense the codex traveling to the MCU and I believe that it’s still there despite Venom 3 revisiting the bar in Mexico.
Or he wanted to kill Eddie and think expect or think venom could or would revive him and he also tried to kill them he just failed he never thought he was gonna lose
Maybe this is also the reason why Riot called him a traitor after he resurrected Eddie.
That was a pretty good detailing
He also told that scientist that we should relieve the millions of symbiotes .
Bro your a king of speaking facts 🗣️ 🔥💯🥶
I think it is because he was fighting against the plan of his leader.
Trueeeeee
That actually makes sense 😮
Riot wasn't expecting Venom to do that He didn't think Venom would take that risk
Most logical explanation tbh
I don't believe riot gave a damn about knull. He was the alpha symbiote with knull gone.
What? It was a slight retcon. Knull wasn't a thing until 2019. This movie was in 2018
@@KingShibe you can't just say that and exclude like knull didnt exist. He just got introduced. But saying he didn't exist is like erasing every comic he was in
Yeah i thought the same
The fact that Riot said Venom , "Traitor" before his death , now hits more different now 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly
I honestly think riot just killed eddie not expecting venom to go back inside him because they both knew the risks, so he just assumed venom would be terrified to go back inside and he could make his escape
Thats a True friendship From Venom
And Riot called him a traitor for that since it creates a codex
@@MatthewBTMEYeah
You all try find logic in this garbage trilogy😂.
@@fordve100 only thing garbage is you bub..
Thats why Riot called Venom ‘traitor’
😮
I thought he called him traitor because he didn't want other symbiote to reach earth and bond again with them all.
nope. But it makes sense though
Simpler answer: Sony didn’t know
I haven't even seen the movie and I still understand every 😂
😂😂
Same bro 😂
@@musaaslam1189 the movie is good but over rated
He wanted to start a riot
LMAO
You damn genius
Good one
Lol so funny right?....right? RIGHT MOTHERFUC-
That’s most be why he is called riot.
Imagine Riot and Carnage being at the Area 51 fight
Unstoppable 💀
Riot keeps zenophages under his toes
While he could've been planning to have the other Symbiotes kill off all the Xenophages, all he would've done was accelerate the extinction of his race, since the Xenophages all had healing powers.
Now I can feel Riot when he saw that Venom ressurected Eddie 💀
"BRO WHATCHU DOIN, NOW WE'RE COOKED."
Riot didn't actually think Venom would resurrect Eddie like that
At the time, the filmmakers did not yet know that Eddie's death and Venom's resurrection of him would have some deeper meaning in the future. And as for the plot itself, it seems to me that Riot simply did not take into account that Venom would risk creating a codex to save the host. Riot was unlikely to be the type to be concerned about the fate of his host. If Drake for some reason had been killed before the action in rocket then Symbiont would have quickly looked for a new host, he would not have wasted time resurrecting the scientist.
Knull wasn't a thing until 2019. This movie was in 2018
@@KingShibeKnull was a thing since 2013 but his first official appearance under the name Knull was August 2018 which was before this movie released
@Kingshibe i hate people like this bro they pull info out they’re ass
?? Bro knull been out for more then 10 years
@@KingShibe bro you're wrong in multiple comments and getting called out each time. Why not just stop at this point?
Riot don't think xenophages as a tough opponent 😂
Riot killed Eddie because he thought he already killed Venom. He knew nothing about this
I think he did but did not actually think venom would bring him back or was anywhere near him to do so
Now i understand why riot called him a "traitor"
No, he chose earth over his own people. The whole Venom 3 plot probably wasn’t even drafted yet, and this movie came out around the time Knull was even created.
@@The_Black_Falchionyou said it venom chose the human race (earth) over his own people....and that makes him a traitor Only for a good cause... but still you can't denied that he is a traitor to his own race....
@ You just said the same thing twice.
@@The_Black_Falchion because you said NO. Then contradict it by saying he chose earth over his own people....what the heck is your point???
@ No, what I said if you actually read it is that Riot did not say traitor about him making a codex because that plot point didn’t even exist yet. You can’t retroactively make something fit like that if you know that’s not what happened. Next time read what the actual comment says.
I know this might seem crazy but this is a valid theory if u pay atention to the first venom movie when riot and his host was talking he told his host that he would lead millions of his kind to earth and this might support this theory to kill xenophages thats why i think this is a valid theory and in let there be carnage i think the part of venom (carnage) knew that eddie and venom had a codex thats why he said one of us must die i dont think he just wanted to kill eddie and venom because remember parts of symbiotes can split memories which could make this true
That actually makes sense
Yes riot is not a villain he just want to save his kind by sacrificing human
You mean American way 😂😂
@miheelndeva5274 damnn 🗿
Or maybe riot dident think venom would revive him
Soldiers are known to sacrifice themselves if they extremely have to
I feel like Riot though Venom abandoned Eddie when he died
That or he didn’t think venom would make it back to Eddie in time
The only way knull knew about the codex was that eddie and venom went to earth 616 riot couldnt have known that this was possible
And it's because of doctor strange
Because riot was not expecting venom to resurrect eddie that was obv af
I think the easier answer is, that they dont plan that much forward. They plan for 1 more movie not 2. So it wasnt a thing back then.
Riot killed Eddie just to kill em. He didn’t expect venom to revive him, cause even venom knew the stakes of reviving Eddie. Riot wanted to lead in general and takeover earth by bringing a symbiote army back to earth to invade. Riot never had anything to do with Knull.
Every symbiotes know about Knull existence as they once helped with keeping knull in his throne by merging with almost like infinite or less
It’s possible since venom said “we won’t let you destroy this world”
when venom said that he meant he and eddie wouldn't let riot destroy the world
^^^Riot’s whole plan was to bring back more symbiotes so they could take over Earth. Riot wasn’t looking to co-exist in peace, it would’ve been a parasitic relationship where the symbiotes would just inhabit humans and takeover. Venom learned to co-exist because of the things he picked up and learned from his time with Eddie.
I didn't know that Knull is such a new character 🤔
I wish Knull actually did something in the movie
Tbh I dk what they would or could have done against him
Or he doesn’t thinked that venom would save eddy
Riot did not know the writers would retcon his films event in the third film
I love how a lot of alien movies have villains who are just trying to save their homes
Buddy says this as if Knull couldn't just make more 😂
Or because Sony didnt thought of this until now
Or maybe riot didn't know that venom was going to revive eddie
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I dont think even writers didnt care abt it that much
Riot is hands down the baddest symbiote soo far
The writers didn't think that there will be a third movie
he didn't think that Venom would resurrected Eddie
I think to me he thought venom would not try to resurrect Eddie
Because they didn't think about it until the 3rd movie and by the 3rd movie we have forgotten the last 2
Killing a host is like killing then since he didn’t think venom was crazy enough to revive Eddie that would also be why he said traitor after seeing him again
It’s called the writers didn’t think of that
My head cannon is roit thought venom was smart enough not to do that
After watching the 3rd the remembered the scene riot said "traitor" to venom is whole new meaning comparing before the 3rd movies release
Riot didn't know. Neither did the writers.
"XENOFIDGES" c'mon man...😂
This was just because sony hasn't even planned to use knull in the first place at all.
Fun fact Eddie dies and gets revived in every movie so theoretically venom has 3 codexes
actually only 1
Yep..
I don’t think there can be multiple. Just 3 instances where he could’ve created the codex.
Only one pal
Oh…. Oh no…
I have a slight hunch it was because he didn’t know venom was able to revive Eddie. 😅
I think it cuz he thought he got rid of venom and that Eddie would just die. And even with the chance he was a live the rocket would just incinerate them
Riot wanted the world to end he even said and he knows how powerful the monsters are plus aswell he does know no one likes knull so I don’t know
It might be possible that riot wouldn't believe venom would do it as even venom was scared of the villian. That my theory
Even Sony doesn't know these
I don't suppose he thought venom cared about Eddie enough to break the rules and create a codex
Because they made it up later
I think you’re putting more effort into this than the writers themselves.
Makes sense why he wanted to bring the rest to earth
I’ll tell you why cause knull was 100% not in mind when the movie came out
1 of those xeno things proved it can take out some of the strongest symbiotes we’ve seen. AT THE SAME TIME no chance an army even stands a chance against 10 of those things.
He also probably thought that venom was not stupid enough to do that
Or it could be he didnt want venom to have eddie so he would give him up so that the codex wouldnt be found but it didnt pan out that way for knull
Because the writers didn’t think that far ahead when they made venom 1…
Because the makers didn't planned of making venom 3 or including this plot point at that time😂
i was so pissed when i saw them kill that one xenophage with the chopper blades like why couldnt they just spam that move!!? the symbiotes kept dying left and right
Not all symbiots can create weapons and the xenophages aren’t just gonna stand there and get cut up
probably Riot didnt expect Venom will save Eddie, thats why he kill Eddie, Riot sait traitor is probably have double meaning, first is because Venom stop Riot to destroy earth, the second is that Venom revive Eddie and create codex.
THATS WHY HE CALLED HIM A TRAITOR
Or you know, the plot of the first movie happened and Riot was looking to feast on the people of earth... which was kinda stated in the movie.
Riot expects that venom would not save eddie because of code x but venom didnt care about the creation of code x and saves eddie, maybe
I think this is more simpler, Riot just thought Venom can't get to Eddie in time, he probably thought venom died or something, They can't resurrect a dead body
cuase riot didnt expect venom to risk that and also didnt expect him traveling through the multiverse
Or maybe riot just didn't think venom would resurrect Eddy because doing that would create a codex and riot though venom wouldn't do that
Or maybe it was because at that time the creators didn't think about making the third movie OR the codex
I have a theory maybe he thought the venom wasn’t actually going to revive him since they have a very high lack of emotion
This is the dumbest way to change the lore I could've dreamed up
Or he killed Eddie because he knows that venom wouldn't revive him because of the codex.
If there is a third installment…the good thing is that there’ll be a lot of new victims to study. So it could take place of a family/friend/partner of the possessed and see what they’ll do to save them. Or people frantically trying to….traumatize other people.
Cause they want more movies to show
Riot simply didn't know sony would be making a 3rd venom movie
i believe sony didn't think that much
Riot was a Real Badass
He probably thought that wasn't stupid enough to save Eddie
Venom knew it was on him that’s why he sacrificed himself man hopfully my boa venom still alive I did not wanna see him go out like that n I want the same venom not a counter part venom
One thing that riot missed is.. what make him think he and symbiote army stood any chance against the whole army of xenophages ?
Number advantage?
Isnt he the god of symbiotes?
Yep Knull is
Or he simply didn’t know Venom would bring Eddie back
simplest answer: Writers just wrote whatever excuse they wanted.
So thats why he called venom a traitor
Maybe he just forgot of that possibility
My theory is that the writers wrote it that way
I thought this was mastermind knull setting up all this shi like Eddie dying and venom resurrecting and he gave boost to venom in venom 2 against carnage so venom can keep the codex safe
I might have a theory, maybe he actually looks up to Knull or maybe Knull convinced him to go to earth so that he could create a codex with one of the symbiotes and its host to free Knull
Can't scroll on yt without getting spoiled huh literally the first 5 words he says
He was in the way of bringing a symbiote armor to take over the earth
Riot did it because it wasn't written yet.
Hate to be THAT GUY but a few things that are worth mentioning; 1. The codex wasn’t created when Venom resurrected Eddie it was created when they first bonded which is why Riot commands Venom to get into the rocket. 2. The symbiote race is called the Klyntar. 3. I could be mistaken but I’m pretty sure that Knull could sense the codex traveling to the MCU and I believe that it’s still there despite Venom 3 revisiting the bar in Mexico.
Sony: yeah we thought of that
Or he wanted to kill Eddie and think expect or think venom could or would revive him and he also tried to kill them he just failed he never thought he was gonna lose
I knew riot should’ve stayed alive💀