Why can't we just all get along? Race, opinions, money, power, pretty much anything leads to conflict, which in turn leads to death, it saddens me how torn apart everyone is.
juan castellanos Don't group all whites together. That's the same collectivist shit that is pushing white people against everyone. Calling us all racist just due to our ancestors fuck ups or calling for our deaths are reasons white people are getting angry. I don't support the kkk, white supremacists or Nazis. Who if not for identity politics wouldn't have gained more members who were tired of anti white bullshit.
Isn't it ironic that a group of Americans are claiming they want racial purity, yet the American race is a huge mix of different nationalities and so they themselves aren't "racially pure"
Subscribed simply because Philip is one of the least biased people in the public eye. He may be the slightest tiniest bit left but frankly he's quite logical and tends to examine things in a very well processed manner.
He has his opinions for sure, but he always presents the facts, all of the ones he can find, as clearly and as well as he can, and then he gives his opinion and makes sure it's clear that it's his opinion. I may not always agree with him, but I know I can always trust him to give the facts and the true story.
Why? Did OP say that Philip is not biased at all? No? Then what's your point? Unless you're trying to argue that there aren't in fact different degrees of bias, and that everyone is just as biased as the next person, you're arguing with a strawman, not the opinion OP actually holds.
He mentions LWC a lot... so I think he leans more right than left, but still centrist, and by the wording of your statement, are you insinuating that in order to have logical thought and process information, one must lean left?
Mae Polzine racism and bigotry is free speech. There was no terrorism. A car plowing through a bunch of dumbasses in the middle of the road is not terrorism.
I think the statues should be removed from public areas and put into museums. It's a part of history but inside the museums it will be a choice to view and learn from the past.
I think part of the problem is having sides - left vs right, democrats vs republicans etc. It labels people, puts them in a box and alienates them from each other
It's called bipartisanism -- and it is most certainly NOT a good thing when there are only two choices: instead of looking for the BEST option for both sides people look for the WORST option for THE OTHER side, just to make themselves and their """team"""" look better...
This is disgusting to watch. But it's also sick to look at comments and see that people are diving us into groups, saying that it's the left's fault, or the right's fault. We have to come together, we can't be hateful towards people who believe the same beliefs as us. Political parties have become such a big part of us, that it paints the entire picture of someone from the moment you meet them. Not one liberal thinks the same as the other liberal, same with conservatives. We are all individuals! We can't be put into groups, that's not going to solve anything. Stop saying it's the other parties fault, the white peoples fault, the black peoples fault, Trump's fault. It's literally the Neo-Nazi, KKK members, and the white supremacists fault. Blame them. They're the ones causing the uproar and the mess.
I mean, i hate neo Nazis as much as the next guy, but isn't this anti-fa's fault primarily? I know this is stated a lot just in this comment section but this was a legitimate protest with official papers etc designating it as such, as far as i know anyway. Their views may be vile but they have every right to say them and the original protest was set up in a legitimate way so they had every right to be there. No violence would have occurred if Anti-fa didn't come to disrupt the protest surely? I mean, its pretty symbolic that the Nazi's, alt right and free speech people are usually the ones armed with shields to defend themselves while anti-fa have projectiles to instigate. And its happened time and time again, so you can't even argue that by bringing their shields and weapons the original protesters were looking for the fight, as recently a fight with anti-fa has been inevitable at right wing events of all kinds. I'm sorry, i know you started out your post saying not to lay blame based on group affiliation and differing opinion, but you then blame the wrong group probably because they have the more obviously vile opinion.
+Wassup Dawg No. They organizers showed up intending to be violent. They brought automatic weapons, armor and shields. These same people actually still want genocide. GENOCIDE IS A BAD THING AND ANYONE WHO INTENDS TO DO IT SHOULD BE STOPPED YOU FUCKING SHEEP. THEY ARE ON CAMERA SAYING THEY INTEND TO KILL MORE THAN JUST THAT WOMAN, AND THAT IT IS GOOD SHE WAS MURDERED. Nazi philosophy = genocide good. Stop justifying Nazis. Period.
Yeah, and antifa came up to instigate a fight. For the last year, any right-wing event has been attacked by Anti-fa. At the start anti-fa were just beating on random people attending a lecture. As time progressed, more and more people on the right started bringing armor and helmets and shields and weapons to defend themselves. Most of those events had minor nazi presence as surprise surprise those with views people will suppress first will always congregate to the events proclaiming free speech, but that doesnt mean the other nazis are blind to what happens there. So when an event with a larger than usual neo-nazi presence (A group that are usually incredibly militant) gets attacked by anti-fa they will have more militant weapons. They bring this stuff to defend themselves because at this point it is provable that a well advertised right wing event will inevitably lead to a fight with anti fa who will be throwing cement filled bottles, bottles of piss, bats with nails, mini explosives and other thuggish weapons. To not bring things to defend yourself with would be to decide to be a sitting duck. The nazis views are retarded and evil, and yet they are the group who had legitimacy to their protest. Magically when anti-fa attacks an actual event where militant extremists are present and not some milo event, the reaction will be militant and extreme. If they didn't have anti-fa instigate the attack, they would have had nothing to attack back against. They would have had some vile people say some vile lectures, drank a few beers and gone home.
Perhaps one of the reasons a very large segment of rational people in this country don't get involved in events like this is because it's very unlikely that you will reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. Emotion fuels emotion and has a tendency to cloud logic. A protest is beyond the point of logical discussion. At the point of a protest, the teams have been chosen and the lines drawn. At the point of a protest, it's already a failure.
ᴅᴀᴍᴀʀɪ yes, what I mean by that is that emotional discourse tends to breed emotional responses. Where as intellectually based discourse challenges the opponent to respond with well thought out reasoning.
You're completely right. Even if one of the sides objectively holds some high-ground, once the partisanship starts, there is no discussion to be had anymore because no one will budge out of their comfort zone.
Jesus Christ umm, walk/run away? It's pretty easy. You see we have these things called "legs" which allow us to move. We can even move at different speeds! You can "run" when you want to move quickly. You can "walk" when you want to move more slowly. It's called "jogging" if you want a speed slower than "running" but faster than "walking."
How about we just all agree the mass acts of attempted murder and violence are just always fucked? You start justifying this shit and that's how it gets worse. What do you think that piece of human filth that drove his car into that crowd thinks? "Dumb fucking liberal faggots, they all deserved this. I'll show these cucks". Keep fucking justifying it. Lets see how this goes.
+Another dude, yeah pretty much. you also forgot if you are so concerned about the livelihood of your friends and family why take part in the violence it's just going to make it worse. get out of their.
He literally just said "once someone causes harm someone or infringe on their rights that's when it crosses the line"... So he is against it, can you read?
Especially when even Phillip fumbled a bit of information in this episode. The story about the Charlottesville incident was a bit mis-represented in the group the dude was part of. He wasn't actually a part of Vanguard, and that was said by the Vanguard themselves. Not that I agree with their ideals, but it's just a point of how multiple sources show the full story and how minor details are often jumbled up and lost in a single source.
I'm just tired of them killing off the characters I like. I know evil winning is a fun twist to throw at us sometimes, but they have to get their comeuppance sometime!
To those asking what's the difference between saying "white lives matter" and "black live matter" BLM was a movement that started to call attention to police shooting in America. It's not saying black lives matter more (it's not even saying the matter the same technically), it's just saying they matter and society was ignoring them and disenfranchising them. When it was coined, it has implied "too" at the end if that makes it easier to understand. As for the white lives matter. That only started as a way to take away from the BLM movement. Yes white lives matter, but that was never up for debate. It's effectively the same as me giving candy to one kid and not the other, the second kid is like "hey, can I want candy too" and I go on about "everyone needs candy, you don't need candy more than the first kid..." but never give them something as well. That being said, the statement "white lives matter" is not racist. Now for Charlottesville. They were saying "white lives matter" and promoting nazi iconography. Nazis are known for white supremacy, it's kind of their thing. They would say things like "taking our rights back" (from where? You never lost them. Someone getting rights doesn't strip you of yours. Rights are not in limited quantity). This all implies they weren't saying white lives matter too (as with BLM) but instead saying white lives matter MORE, their rights are more important than everyone's. This is their land and it's being "invaded". All those connotations is what makes theirs racist.
What I am genuinely scared of is that people get so involved in choosing sides and so consumed with the fear of being condemned as "unloyal", the things get so radical so fast that it spins out of control. During events like this, the outrage just deafens people. The world becomes black and white (not in terms of skin color, but in terms of contrast). People lose sight of gray areas completely, and it becomes impossible to reason with anyone. What we should train ourselves to do is keep a level head, look at the situation reasonably and not let ourselves get dragged down into an emotional madness, whatever side you're on. No matter how much things outrage you... if you lose your temper it will only get worse, nothing right can come out of that.
I completely agree. Political views should not incite violence. I personally think that all who were a part of the white nationalist protest with the intent of establishing white dominance over other ethnic groups are detestable, but the people from ANTIFA who attacked them were just as much in the wrong. It's never okay to use violence; it is morally wrong. It is especially bad because it causes polarization between one another. Some people on the left choose to only see that white supremacists killed an innocent woman in a riot. Some people on the right choose to only see that ANTIFA came and attacked people who until their arrival were peacefully protesting. Both sides are at fault, these violent actions will only cause people sitting on the fence to pick a side and join the fight, leading to more violence. Regardless of your political views, protests should be peaceful, and those who act in violence in behalf of their race, creed, or ethnicity should be seen as evil, by all sides.
Hate would originally come from fear of things which cause harm or we do not understand (so a lack of knowledge) and the unknown, nowadays hate come more from disagreements and different opinions it seems and is taught by parents or friends for you model your behaviour after them subconsciously or not
I think the quote is expressing the intense and radical hate that is something like racism. It is human nature to get angry and to dislike others, but deep-seeded hate like racism and prejudice is learned from the actions of those around us.
I am a foreigner so confused and worried with all that stuff happening at Virginia. I did not know which media to trust and obtain information from. Thank God Phillip you are here.
+Jesus Christ hey dude, seeing how you're seemingly a big fan of JC, just wondering how his being a Jew (mostly likely dark skinned too) jives with your apparent white nationalist views? Legit curious.
You have put across this story in a very clear way without hiding from open facts from all parties. You talked about everyone needing the realisation of unity and respect. However, in the comments people are still blaming each other. Is this humanity or will this ever change? It saddens me but my faith upon universal (or the majority of) human acceptance actually happening ever is dwindling. History is repeating itself over and over and we are more in the shit every time.
Welcome to Humanity: where the guns are smoking, the history doesn't matter unless it's convenient, and where nuclear warheads are just dying to be let loose.
I'm not sure that made sense but I'm sure you just proved my point. I think people should be concerned about others, otherwise we would all be fucked! All the best yo
People generally don't think about anyone but themselves. Most of us (myself included) will say they care about famine, poverty or whatever but in actual real life (not what we think should happen) most of us don't have or don't take the time to realy care about anything more then our immediate circles (family and friends). So that means everyone agrees with themselves in those circles and nothing realy changes. We only think about having enough money to get this or that. Which means we need to work more. When you work more you have less time and all that loop keeps happening. Very few people are capable of doing the right thing on a regular basis. Talking is the key but when you can't talk to people of different walks of life ... you get stuck in your ways unless you actively try not to.
Thanks Phil. Been in the woods the last week without service and needed this catch-up. Heartbroken to see everything that has happened. Thanks for continuing to help keep me informed.
"All about racial purity" LOL literally every white person I know for the exception of 2 has roots from at least 5+ different countries. Granted that usually all those countries are white but still. Not hating on white people here, just pointing out that "racial purity" is a bit ridiculous.
actually no thats not a fair point, countries in Europe range from Greece to Slovania to Spain to Norway to Hungary. 5 countries in europe does not equal 5 white countries
As someone who lives in Charlottesville and a Hispanic. This breaks my heart so much. I love America and the constitution. I believe you have the right to free speech and if u want to protest go ahead. If you want to counter protest, i dont care. But to the anti protesters I want to so say one thing " Why " police clearly said " please don't confront these men, please stay off the roads" there where protest before and I didn't end as bad as this. We lost 2 men in blue during this. ( which most of you won't even remember there names, and yes I know the helicopter had a malfunction causing the crash.) for What? No one here is a hero, no one congrats. Please I beg you, be safe.
Not a genwunner sorry if I wasnt clear, yes correct they didn't die due to protesters. They died in a helicopter crash. It just breaks my heart that their family lost a father because these men where trying to protect and serve the people of Charlottesville.
I am extremely saddened and angry at all of these bigoted individuals for their desecration of Robert E Lee and their misguided support of him. First off, let's be clear that Robert E Lee, while the general for the Confederate army, was in fact in agreement with Northern values and beliefs which is why he wished for the Union to stay intact and was offered a position by Abe Lincoln himself to take charge of the Union army. Lee obviously turned this down as he didn't wish to fight against his home state and was drawn in to serve as the Souths general. Robert E Lee was a wonderfully brilliant military tactician who sought to ease tensions before the Civil War and during Reconstruction. It's a shame he won't be remembered as such but instead as a martyr to be used by white supremacists and disgusting Neo Nazis to further their own agenda.
Sadaharu a lot of people don't know this about history. When I first heard that this protest/riot started because of the Robert E Lee statue my first thought was "but he agreed with the northerners?????" I understand that people think he's guilty by association or is a reminder of a dark era in american history but people really need to educate themselves before they start spewing discomtempt. White nationalists, neo-nazis, and white supremacists also shouldn't claim him as part of their cause because I don't think if he were alive today would stand for that kind of hatred.
Whenever stories like this happen, I don't even get furious like I used to. It just feels...numb. Like all this fighting and everything? We're probably going to end up destroying ourselves. No one else needed. If anything we're becoming the same as animals or even worse. There's no humanity, no compassion, NOTHING. When you see people celebrating the death of someone, when you see people willing to use rampant violence and try to justify themselves? Our empathy and humanity is draining away.
I understand how you feel. It's driven me to think more about God than ever. Right now I feel like the End of the World sounds like a good thing. If I get into Heaven, yay. If I don't, well I have annihilationist beliefs so eternal non-existence sounds peaceful.
L Y there's more to it than that. Cops have been restricted for years, that's not a new thing. Cops tend to be legally obligated to not do anything in this situation until told by their superior. It sucks but that's the law.
I just wish Phil wouldn't stick to one story per episode, especially if that one story is US politics or anything to do with Trump. We get it. Not everyone is a fan of the current state of America. But guess what, not all viewers of this channel are Americans. Can you please cover more diverse stories? Where was the segment "today in awesome"?
What's going on in Charlottesville is beyond disgusting and embarrassing for us all as human beings .. what a shame to have these issues HERE in 🇺🇸 & in 2017!
No, a bigot is someone who doesn't listen to any opinion that disagrees with theres... nothing to do with the right(sounds more like the left as a whole to me).
Thank you for your candid and mostly respectful words. Some may not entirely agree with everything you said, but it cannot be denied that you are a logical and compassionate person, at least according to the way you express yourself.
SanFranGiants14 that's true but there are so many less people that agree with the alt right compared to the millions that push white guilt and other far left agendas
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Imagine being a WWII vet who stormed the beaches of Normandy beach putting their life on the line to then have people in 2017 wave the Nazi flag and claim to be Nazis
Imagine being someone who's lived in an eastern bloc country seeing someone wear a Che Guevara shirt and a hammer and sickle pin, claiming to be communists
You said far more eloquently what I have been saying since before this incident happened. The violence must stop and that's violence on all sides. The constant propagation of hate, vandalism and violence is not, can not and never will solve the problems we have, it only makes matters worse and even creating problems were there weren't ones before.
Jacob Melone Would probably have the military setup a barrier around the site as soon as someone enters it with a makeshift weapon/weapon and a shield. Then declare the area as a war zone and those how enters are of cause prepared to give there life.
Zandman26 yeah, that's incredibly stupid. Not only would it set an extremely dangerous precedent, it would also turn the people who died in the protests into martyrs.
Martyrs are born when they are fighting for the peoples will. If it's only a bunch of people looking for trouble and fighting each other over something silly like a statue I don't think that would even be given a second of attention.
I don't care if you believe in "BLM" and "WLM", what angers me is when those groups use that as a platform for hate speech and violence. Then they go to the excuse of "freedom of speech". I viciously disagree with some people's viewpoint, but if we don't learn as a society to listen and communicate then a solution is far in the future.
Trump ran on this level of divisiveness during his campaign. The fruits of which were realized in Charlottesville. He actually said during a campaign stop that he would pay for the legal expenses of anyone that got into an altercation with people that did not support him.
i'm white and i completely disagree with everything that happened, i just hate when people say all white people are to blame. i, just like many other white people, had nothing to do with this and are disgusted by this
pie man eh, just don't even let it bother you know lol like if you know you're not to blame, there's no need to stress and try to prove it, right? that's how i process all this lol
Tristan Miller That is true of every sovreign state that still stands though, and most of the problems theu faced staying that way as well... Not saying you are wrong, just that this isn't special. Even Switzerland has remained uninvaded because such a military action would always result in defeat against its gun toting populace within their well fortified mountainous homeland.
So your Constitution, Declaration of Independence and laws say Americans are equal, you have a right to religion, you are free to pursue happiness. Now the KKK does NOT believe in or preach equality, the Neo-Nazis do not believe in or preach freedom of religion and both advocate and have exercised violence against various groups, robbing them of their safety and happiness. Yet they hide behind the 1st Amendment with the specific goal of TAKING OTHER RIGHTS (given in the same documents) AWAY from their targets. Their freedom, their safety, their religion and their equality. I do not have to physically attack someone to make them feel fear, unequal or oppressed. This is why protecting hate speech is fucked. They (Supremacists, Neo-Nazis & Alt-Right) are free, the victims are not.
Extremists on both sides are the only thing motivating debate in our country now. The more this goes on, the more our country splits into fighting against each other, instead of working together to root out those that represent the worst of our society.
I'm fine with that. Let the leftist extremists and rightists extremists kill each other. Then we won't have nazis or radical feminism anymore and we can get on with solving real problems like world hunger instead of yelling at each other about privelege and skin color.
What's wrong with saying stuff like we condemn all hate and violence in it's name? I get the need to get specific after an event like this but condemning all hate and violence is pretty clear. Don't make me defend Trump but most of the drama isn't about what he said or didn't say, it comes from the various groups that want to twist his words to their own ends.
I'm with you on defending Trump. The dialogue around him is so toxic that any lover of truth has to look at it and go "well actually.." which sucks because I do not want to be on the record as defending this man, but as a lover of truth and honest dialogue, how can I avoid it?
The statement by Lorde really made me mad. I agree 100% this is unacceptable, but to blame all white people for what happened is just insulting. I am a white male and I am the furthest thing from who those people are. They are hardcore conservatives who agree with, most likely, anarchist beliefs. I am a strong liberal who has many very far left beliefs and am strongly against any sort of violence whatsoever and believe we need to stop learning about wars in schools, but why they happen and how to prevent them. To put me or anyone no matter skin color or background in the same group as those awful people is just insulting.
Phil talking about Antifa is completely relevant in this case, as there is quite a bit of evidence that they were the ones who began the violence, and are known for violent protests. He should condemn both although the obvious onus is on the White supremacists who had one of there own murder others. However you don't want to empower a terrorist organization like Antifa to do even more damage then they have already done, by feeling justified in there violence toward anyone on the right.
I agree with everything you said in today's show apart from the end when you said that most of these people are gonna convert or something. Because the most annoying thing for me personally is those statements saying "it's all white people" that is so annoying because the majority of white people are rational people and should not be compared with neo-nazis, white supremacists or the KKK, the reason I believe we have this big uprising in alt-right movements is because of this idiotic mentality of "all white people are [insert type of discrimination].
Pretty much sums it up. Anti-white sentiments are whipping whites into a frenzy, and they're saying anything they can to hurt the people that are hurting them. They're lashing out. Any armchair psychologist could have predicted this were they not so busy telling white people to fuck themselves, too.
Phil, usually you only say a terrorist's name if they're still at large, but this guy was already apprehended. Why'd you report his name this time? (Crazies, this isn't to insinuate Phil treats domestic terrorist differently. It's just a legitimate question about his usual strategy.)
I think it's because he's not a "tv terrorist". You know, he doesn't look like a terrorist. So I think Phil is trying to remind us that terrorism is not an ideologically exclusive thing. It also might be because /pol/ lied and spread lies about the attacker.
This is NOT about being conservative or liberal, thousands of American boys are buried in Europe, who died trying to defeat Nazism, and the domestic terror and lack of genuine response from the president are a disgrace to their memory and everything this country should stand for, regardless of your political views.
Jameson Kirk Go fuck yourself. We're tired of your concern trolling Libby. Leftists have nothing but hate for the greatest generation and nothing but disdain for what they stood for.
When I saw the Vice News episode for this incident I felt so lost and helpless that I prayed for the first time in a couple years. I just want everyone to know if you want to fight back evil things like this just treat others like human beings and be friendly towards each other. That's my two cents. Have a good day.
I'm also not a fan of the "white guilt" mentality, but I do agree that something needs to be done. What can I do? I'm a 30 y.o. mom with very few friends, but I want to help. Marches and protests don't feel like they're doing any good these days.
Be a nice person to others. They say a smile spreads pretty far. So you do not need to change the world, but only effect it in small ways. We can all take heart in that knowing most of us are not radicals.
Alyssa Trox you can serve other people who don't care about you and will only use you as a pawn to further their own agenda but I would rather not let my race be my defining characteristic
There are many much more efficient ways to spread your message than violence, name-calling, or taunting. For example, you can learn to debate and actually win debates, so that people will actually understand and agree with you.
You didn't do anything wrong. Don't hate yourself because of the color of your skin. You want to help? Go to a soup kitchen or do a little charity work. However under no circumstances think that due to the fucking tone of your skin that you're somehow responsible for what others do. That's insanity.
The thing is that these people do have legitimate grievances but the issue is they too are being ostracized by people for their sex or colour of their skin. What we can do to help alleviate the tension these people have is to discuss, debate, and chat with them. I'm a coloured person and what do I do when I meet a racist person? I show them kindness and try to get them to understand that I am no different than they are. Try to find out why they hold these views and try to prove them wrong. If you choose to be mean and violent towards them all you will do is make them believe any preconceived notions they have to be correct. Fighting violence with violence and hate with hate will always lead to the same fate. There is a saying that we should try to bring back, "Kill your enemies with kindness."
+Black Ribbon That's the thing. Not enough people nowadays don't even want to talk about why this stuff happens. The only way to find a solution is to find out why they think this way then to convince them otherwise by having civil and open discussions.
It seems to be that way as many would much rather just bring up the past in order to end the discussion and claim themselves correct. Many say that there is no room to discuss or chat with Nazi's simply for those killed during WWII. Though, I am sure these people are perfectly fine chatting or being near a Japanese person despite the fact the Japanese attempted a genocide of their own that took more lives than the Nazi's did.
It's becoming incredibly clear that there is a drive towards radical views in our time on both sides of the spectrum. While you made the stance that you believe more individuals were coming towards the center I believe that blanket arguments are pushing moderates to the fringes. Arguments like "all white people are racist", "your opinion is lesser than mine because blank", or "all right wing/ conservatives are nazis" only pushes us further from each other. We need to establish that all parties only want the best for America, different parties have different images on how to do so. Just because you don't agree with someone's viewpoint does not give you the right to be violent or label them loosely. I condemn all violence, others seem to pick and choose what violence they want to disavow, after this weeks attack people cheered on Twitter for a white nationalist being punched. While I don't agree with his stance you can not be violent towards him for his views. Again, he is a piece of shit, but violence is not the answer. As a country we need to start treating each other as individuals not as ideological members. As a right leaning individual I do agree that Trump needs to be criticized for his policies and faults, but what news stories have become are drivel. He has condemned bigotry and racism of all kinds, and that is a positive. What really needs to occur is he needs to address concern about domestic terrorism in the forms of white supremacy and white nationalism. But, to say that he is a supremacist because he doesn't mention them by name is utter hilarity. This situation will only be managed through genuine talks about difficult topics.
I was really hoping that my generation wouldn't be the ones who threw the world into chaos but it seems that we are heading that way. I consider myself in the middle not left or right, and It almost feels like there is less and less wiggle room with more and more people going to the far right or far left. we need open discourse but I don't see that happening. I think a lot of people have already made their minds up. The left can justify violence because the right is violent and the right can justify violence because the left is violent. and all of us who say no one is justified get set aside because you cant beat the group mentality that has been instilled on each side.
I completely agree and it's so sad, I just wish that everyone would come together and actually have an honest discussion instead of trying to prove someone is right or wrong because its not benefiting no one.
We are being divided by extremists elements that are trying to speak for all. Antifa, MLB, and Black Panthers vs. White Nationalists, White Supremacists, and Neo-Nazis. Both sides are constantly riding everyone in the middle to pick sides while destroying the very foundations of our nation. They want it to be Minority vs. Whites, South vs. North, and Republican Vs. Democrats. To me it feels more like manipulation and power grabs by the leaders of these groups, misleading the public while condemning anyone that doesn't share their views. It is a sad thing and I'm sick of both sides.
they are mad because they are the native population and are routinely discriminated against and have had 1/5th in reduction of majority population in half a century. in another half century it will be even less. People complain about native american indians, but seem to have no qualms about their own race getting wiped out despite building the modern world. world is fucked.
For all you saying that America will never be united anymore or that "we're beyond a point of no return " This gives all the extremists (both left and right) exactly what they want! Don't let them win by us giving up!
Imperial America You aren't. Just because a country dilutes its majority with an influx of minorities doesn't mean that the majority will become oppressed. South Africa and Hati are amazing examples where caste systems allowed powerful white minority owners to control the new or ever-sustained influx of natives or "minorities."
systematically marginalized and replaced? What is this fuckery? Just because you are not the only thing that matters anymore does not mean you are being marginalized, and just because there are more brown people in the world than white people because humans have sex, does not mean you are being systematically replaced. Get a grip
wow , that probably was the most ignorant comment in this whole thread , if you think all minorites want to do is harm white people , you probably have never been around or near a mexican , black or asian, nobody is worried about you , we just want equality , equal opportunity and so on , also you forget that europeans raped everything in their path so most black people in america aren't even fully black , and that goes for hispanic's as well so if im honest this is more about skin color then race , this whole situation is about people who are light skin then their better then people who are dark skin , like its always been since this earth was first formed
Your country? The soil of North America belonged to other people before the europeans came, and there have always been non-white people in America. If fact, the infrastructure and economy of the United States was built on the labour of non-white people. You are just afraid that other people will treat you as badly as you want to treat them. You are literally saying that you think you are better than other human beings based on race, and if you think that, then I, as a white person, am perfectly happy to have you replaced in favour of people who are not quite so bigoted.
It will get worse, but I believe those of us who don't kneel to the altars of extremism, can help to make it better. That is what I hope.
Philip, you are an inspiration to me. You say the news as it is, and I love that.
52 seconds ago, 30k views. Makes sense.
Fingers crossed. I can't even watch the news any more. It makes me physically ill.
Philip DeFranco on both sides
Philip DeFranco it's sadly going to inspire more political violence in America
Can't be the only one who's been waiting to hear Phil's thoughts all weekend!?
can finally stop refreshing my page 20x...let's see where this goes!
Why can't we just all get along? Race, opinions, money, power, pretty much anything leads to conflict, which in turn leads to death, it saddens me how torn apart everyone is.
There will never be a time where different ideologies coexist.
can't tell if you're joking or actually believe that all white people don't want to get along with other races xddd
juan castellanos Don't group all whites together. That's the same collectivist shit that is pushing white people against everyone. Calling us all racist just due to our ancestors fuck ups or calling for our deaths are reasons white people are getting angry. I don't support the kkk, white supremacists or Nazis. Who if not for identity politics wouldn't have gained more members who were tired of anti white bullshit.
Because there are people who don't like other people who think different than them.
juan castellanos I think your missing the point.
Isn't it ironic that a group of Americans are claiming they want racial purity, yet the American race is a huge mix of different nationalities and so they themselves aren't "racially pure"
Social Awkwardness And they were immigrants since their country was founded?
This is why there should be one political party centered around waffles
Waffle Daily no pancakes
TyTy007 an opposing party rises
Waffle Daily there is always someone to disagree
fuck pancakes
Waffle Daily why not both waffles and pancakes? Let's also throw in all delicious breakfast foods for good measure
If you're going into a UA-cam comment section for a civilized discussion, you're gonna have a bad time
Yeh
facts bruh
Glad I saw this comment because I was starting to lose hope anyone rational was still here.
VH3 lol.
Nate Dogo same here.
Subscribed simply because Philip is one of the least biased people in the public eye. He may be the slightest tiniest bit left but frankly he's quite logical and tends to examine things in a very well processed manner.
He has his opinions for sure, but he always presents the facts, all of the ones he can find, as clearly and as well as he can, and then he gives his opinion and makes sure it's clear that it's his opinion. I may not always agree with him, but I know I can always trust him to give the facts and the true story.
Why? Did OP say that Philip is not biased at all? No? Then what's your point? Unless you're trying to argue that there aren't in fact different degrees of bias, and that everyone is just as biased as the next person, you're arguing with a strawman, not the opinion OP actually holds.
I tend to think he's slightly leaning left because he's quite logical and tends to examine things in a very well processed manner.
He mentions LWC a lot... so I think he leans more right than left, but still centrist, and by the wording of your statement, are you insinuating that in order to have logical thought and process information, one must lean left?
You can tell how fucked up the left is, they are always saying he is alt-right. lol stupid cucks. If you're not a demented libtard the left hates you.
This whole protest in Charlottesville makes me so angry. There is a line between freedom of speech and racism/bigotry/terrorism.
Mae Polzine racism and bigotry is free speech. There was no terrorism. A car plowing through a bunch of dumbasses in the middle of the road is not terrorism.
True to the first part I suppose. But completely disagree with you on the second. Also that wasn't the only terrorist thing that occurred.
Glaze Battle-Born People like you are the reason why people around the world think that America is fucked
How do you know the drivers intent?
Have you read some interview or something?
This channel makes me seem smart when talking current events with my friends and peers
Ryan Mills this is terrifying
lol @Sky Waterer
listen to Stefan Molyneaux or Jordan Peterson. Phil Defranco is not a free thinker or honest at all. He's a sham.
What an interesting time to live in America.
You mean leave?
Its not much better anywhere else. The 'peace' is over.
Segun Oriola Because shit is hitting the fan really hard!
Steve Penn definitely not true but ok
I rather take my chances with the cartels in Mexico at this point.
I think the statues should be removed from public areas and put into museums. It's a part of history but inside the museums it will be a choice to view and learn from the past.
ChickenNugglet
I agree.
I wonder what the world would be like if it was a coloring book that was never colored in. What would we fight over then?
cindy mari ummm just saying, write a poem about that. Or maybe a small essay. That's such an open question I love it
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People would get tired of seeing blank pages. Some would want to color and the others would proclaim they cannot in fear of ruining the book.
superanimegamer01 shits getting deep
Jesus Christ you're a.... you're a..... you're a fucking idiot
I think part of the problem is having sides - left vs right, democrats vs republicans etc. It labels people, puts them in a box and alienates them from each other
Competition is a good thing..
Elyssae literally what Washington specifically said not to do.
It's called bipartisanism -- and it is most certainly NOT a good thing when there are only two choices: instead of looking for the BEST option for both sides people look for the WORST option for THE OTHER side, just to make themselves and their """team"""" look better...
Elyssae dumb person
Elyssae The problem is people take it too far.
This is disgusting to watch. But it's also sick to look at comments and see that people are diving us into groups, saying that it's the left's fault, or the right's fault. We have to come together, we can't be hateful towards people who believe the same beliefs as us. Political parties have become such a big part of us, that it paints the entire picture of someone from the moment you meet them. Not one liberal thinks the same as the other liberal, same with conservatives. We are all individuals! We can't be put into groups, that's not going to solve anything.
Stop saying it's the other parties fault, the white peoples fault, the black peoples fault, Trump's fault.
It's literally the Neo-Nazi, KKK members, and the white supremacists fault. Blame them. They're the ones causing the uproar and the mess.
I mean, i hate neo Nazis as much as the next guy, but isn't this anti-fa's fault primarily? I know this is stated a lot just in this comment section but this was a legitimate protest with official papers etc designating it as such, as far as i know anyway. Their views may be vile but they have every right to say them and the original protest was set up in a legitimate way so they had every right to be there.
No violence would have occurred if Anti-fa didn't come to disrupt the protest surely? I mean, its pretty symbolic that the Nazi's, alt right and free speech people are usually the ones armed with shields to defend themselves while anti-fa have projectiles to instigate. And its happened time and time again, so you can't even argue that by bringing their shields and weapons the original protesters were looking for the fight, as recently a fight with anti-fa has been inevitable at right wing events of all kinds.
I'm sorry, i know you started out your post saying not to lay blame based on group affiliation and differing opinion, but you then blame the wrong group probably because they have the more obviously vile opinion.
+Wassup Dawg No. They organizers showed up intending to be violent. They brought automatic weapons, armor and shields. These same people actually still want genocide.
GENOCIDE IS A BAD THING AND ANYONE WHO INTENDS TO DO IT SHOULD BE STOPPED YOU FUCKING SHEEP. THEY ARE ON CAMERA SAYING THEY INTEND TO KILL MORE THAN JUST THAT WOMAN, AND THAT IT IS GOOD SHE WAS MURDERED.
Nazi philosophy = genocide good. Stop justifying Nazis. Period.
Don't mace a Nazi though, or they'll use that as an excuse for actual vehicular assault and second degree murder.
And dipshits like this guy will defend them.
Yeah, and antifa came up to instigate a fight.
For the last year, any right-wing event has been attacked by Anti-fa. At the start anti-fa were just beating on random people attending a lecture. As time progressed, more and more people on the right started bringing armor and helmets and shields and weapons to defend themselves. Most of those events had minor nazi presence as surprise surprise those with views people will suppress first will always congregate to the events proclaiming free speech, but that doesnt mean the other nazis are blind to what happens there. So when an event with a larger than usual neo-nazi presence (A group that are usually incredibly militant) gets attacked by anti-fa they will have more militant weapons.
They bring this stuff to defend themselves because at this point it is provable that a well advertised right wing event will inevitably lead to a fight with anti fa who will be throwing cement filled bottles, bottles of piss, bats with nails, mini explosives and other thuggish weapons. To not bring things to defend yourself with would be to decide to be a sitting duck.
The nazis views are retarded and evil, and yet they are the group who had legitimacy to their protest. Magically when anti-fa attacks an actual event where militant extremists are present and not some milo event, the reaction will be militant and extreme. If they didn't have anti-fa instigate the attack, they would have had nothing to attack back against. They would have had some vile people say some vile lectures, drank a few beers and gone home.
This is the reason I'm still subscribed to this channel,finally someone mainstream talking sense !
same here
Thomas South
This report was painfully wrong
Perhaps one of the reasons a very large segment of rational people in this country don't get involved in events like this is because it's very unlikely that you will reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. Emotion fuels emotion and has a tendency to cloud logic. A protest is beyond the point of logical discussion. At the point of a protest, the teams have been chosen and the lines drawn. At the point of a protest, it's already a failure.
JINJAgaming well said!
Emotion fuels emotion?
ᴅᴀᴍᴀʀɪ yes, what I mean by that is that emotional discourse tends to breed emotional responses. Where as intellectually based discourse challenges the opponent to respond with well thought out reasoning.
You're completely right. Even if one of the sides objectively holds some high-ground, once the partisanship starts, there is no discussion to be had anymore because no one will budge out of their comfort zone.
Civil rights movement?
People can think whatever they would like, but the second they harm someone or infringe on their rights that's when it crosses the line.
Jesus Christ umm, walk/run away?
It's pretty easy.
You see we have these things called "legs" which allow us to move. We can even move at different speeds! You can "run" when you want to move quickly. You can "walk" when you want to move more slowly. It's called "jogging" if you want a speed slower than "running" but faster than "walking."
Jesus Christ *Turn the Other Cheek*
How about we just all agree the mass acts of attempted murder and violence are just always fucked? You start justifying this shit and that's how it gets worse. What do you think that piece of human filth that drove his car into that crowd thinks? "Dumb fucking liberal faggots, they all deserved this. I'll show these cucks". Keep fucking justifying it. Lets see how this goes.
+Another dude, yeah pretty much. you also forgot if you are so concerned about the livelihood of your friends and family why take part in the violence it's just going to make it worse. get out of their.
He literally just said "once someone causes harm someone or infringe on their rights that's when it crosses the line"... So he is against it, can you read?
I'm just glad that Philly D didn't put Jake Paul in the thumbnail
In Canada I had to deal with traffic today. So we all have our problems.
Being extremely racist is just a show of how weak and insecure you are of yourself, that you have to put others down.
This is probably the most reliable and fact-checked news channel on the platform. Keep doing what you're doing,
Philip DeFrancoohh
yeah its better than every news channel in my opinion
But always remember to get news from multiple sources, even when this seems to be the best one.
Especially when even Phillip fumbled a bit of information in this episode. The story about the Charlottesville incident was a bit mis-represented in the group the dude was part of. He wasn't actually a part of Vanguard, and that was said by the Vanguard themselves. Not that I agree with their ideals, but it's just a point of how multiple sources show the full story and how minor details are often jumbled up and lost in a single source.
This season of Life started out pretty slow but man have things accelerated quickly. I wonder what we can expect from the season finale
7/11
WW3 ends the series. calling it.
I can't wait for the finale either, I hear it's gonna be a big bang
maybe the last episode will be titled "Fire and Fury"
I'm just tired of them killing off the characters I like. I know evil winning is a fun twist to throw at us sometimes, but they have to get their comeuppance sometime!
To those asking what's the difference between saying "white lives matter" and "black live matter"
BLM was a movement that started to call attention to police shooting in America. It's not saying black lives matter more (it's not even saying the matter the same technically), it's just saying they matter and society was ignoring them and disenfranchising them. When it was coined, it has implied "too" at the end if that makes it easier to understand.
As for the white lives matter. That only started as a way to take away from the BLM movement. Yes white lives matter, but that was never up for debate. It's effectively the same as me giving candy to one kid and not the other, the second kid is like "hey, can I want candy too" and I go on about "everyone needs candy, you don't need candy more than the first kid..." but never give them something as well. That being said, the statement "white lives matter" is not racist.
Now for Charlottesville. They were saying "white lives matter" and promoting nazi iconography. Nazis are known for white supremacy, it's kind of their thing. They would say things like "taking our rights back" (from where? You never lost them. Someone getting rights doesn't strip you of yours. Rights are not in limited quantity). This all implies they weren't saying white lives matter too (as with BLM) but instead saying white lives matter MORE, their rights are more important than everyone's. This is their land and it's being "invaded". All those connotations is what makes theirs racist.
Who could be having a fantastic Monday? It's MONDAY!!!
I get paid on Monday so...>_>
Ha, well, I guess you're the only one who's happy today then!
probably the best comment in this section
Hey you never know how someones monday went. Someone could have lost their virginity or found 100 dollars this monday or something.
It's even more insulting than when he calls me a bastard every day!
What I am genuinely scared of is that people get so involved in choosing sides and so consumed with the fear of being condemned as "unloyal", the things get so radical so fast that it spins out of control.
During events like this, the outrage just deafens people. The world becomes black and white (not in terms of skin color, but in terms of contrast). People lose sight of gray areas completely, and it becomes impossible to reason with anyone.
What we should train ourselves to do is keep a level head, look at the situation reasonably and not let ourselves get dragged down into an emotional madness, whatever side you're on.
No matter how much things outrage you... if you lose your temper it will only get worse, nothing right can come out of that.
Petr Lizunov What gray area? We have veterans who killed nazis back then
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I'm hoping we get a new moderate party which has anyone who isn't a crazy Fucking radical from both sides
I completely agree. Political views should not incite violence. I personally think that all who were a part of the white nationalist protest with the intent of establishing white dominance over other ethnic groups are detestable, but the people from ANTIFA who attacked them were just as much in the wrong.
It's never okay to use violence; it is morally wrong. It is especially bad because it causes polarization between one another. Some people on the left choose to only see that white supremacists killed an innocent woman in a riot. Some people on the right choose to only see that ANTIFA came and attacked people who until their arrival were peacefully protesting.
Both sides are at fault, these violent actions will only cause people sitting on the fence to pick a side and join the fight, leading to more violence. Regardless of your political views, protests should be peaceful, and those who act in violence in behalf of their race, creed, or ethnicity should be seen as evil, by all sides.
Im curious.... if hate is a learned emotion, then how did it ever come into existence?
Hate would originally come from fear of things which cause harm or we do not understand (so a lack of knowledge) and the unknown, nowadays hate come more from disagreements and different opinions it seems and is taught by parents or friends for you model your behaviour after them subconsciously or not
Kaleigh Civis Violence and Hate are too very different things...
hate came into existence when spray on cheese was first introduced
I think the quote is expressing the intense and radical hate that is something like racism. It is human nature to get angry and to dislike others, but deep-seeded hate like racism and prejudice is learned from the actions of those around us.
When Eve told Adam she has a headache.
This popped up on my UA-cam from 6 years ago and man what a difference Philly D...WOOOHH
On a serious note congrats you look great
I am a foreigner so confused and worried with all that stuff happening at Virginia. I did not know which media to trust and obtain information from. Thank God Phillip you are here.
Lee Ragdoll even phil is very biased
+JoJiJoJo in his opinions, yes, but he covers the facts first
Luke *most of the time he covers the facts. I've watched some videos of his where he has not got the facts.
It is better to trust no one. read both sources and make your own opion, like mine is BOTH Antifa and KKK should be labled as Terrorist
+Jesus Christ hey dude, seeing how you're seemingly a big fan of JC, just wondering how his being a Jew (mostly likely dark skinned too) jives with your apparent white nationalist views? Legit curious.
Why can't we all just get along?
Bendydick Cuckatoo ikr.. humans are frustrating as hell.
Because one side thinks it's okay to run people over with cars.
cause we humanssss
Because the left needs social stratification to survive.
So left has all the fault? Yeah, fucking sure. And btw, not everyone is "right or left".
You have put across this story in a very clear way without hiding from open facts from all parties. You talked about everyone needing the realisation of unity and respect. However, in the comments people are still blaming each other. Is this humanity or will this ever change? It saddens me but my faith upon universal (or the majority of) human acceptance actually happening ever is dwindling. History is repeating itself over and over and we are more in the shit every time.
Welcome to Humanity: where the guns are smoking, the history doesn't matter unless it's convenient, and where nuclear warheads are just dying to be let loose.
Damn your pathetic, quit worrying about other peoples problems before you become somebody else problem.
I'm not sure that made sense but I'm sure you just proved my point. I think people should be concerned about others, otherwise we would all be fucked! All the best yo
I know how you feel. Personally I´m putting all my faith in the internet and the free flow of information to ease these tensions.
People generally don't think about anyone but themselves. Most of us (myself included) will say they care about famine, poverty or whatever but in actual real life (not what we think should happen) most of us don't have or don't take the time to realy care about anything more then our immediate circles (family and friends). So that means everyone agrees with themselves in those circles and nothing realy changes. We only think about having enough money to get this or that. Which means we need to work more. When you work more you have less time and all that loop keeps happening. Very few people are capable of doing the right thing on a regular basis. Talking is the key but when you can't talk to people of different walks of life ... you get stuck in your ways unless you actively try not to.
Thanks Phil. Been in the woods the last week without service and needed this catch-up. Heartbroken to see everything that has happened. Thanks for continuing to help keep me informed.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
"All about racial purity" LOL literally every white person I know for the exception of 2 has roots from at least 5+ different countries. Granted that usually all those countries are white but still. Not hating on white people here, just pointing out that "racial purity" is a bit ridiculous.
5 different countries in Europe.
Fair point, but from my experience its usually a few European countries and 1 or 2 Asian or South American countries.
So every European country has the exact same culture?
+Danke There's plenty of racial variety in Europe
actually no thats not a fair point, countries in Europe range from Greece to Slovania to Spain to Norway to Hungary. 5 countries in europe does not equal 5 white countries
Does anybody else think that the media has a lot to do with all of this hatred?
I am a human, you reading this are a human, and I love you.
napalmbones did you just assume my species? 😠
napalmbones I understand the sentiment, but we didn't stop Nazis with love last time.
napalmbones ha gaaayy
napalmbones lol jk
we didn't stop communism with love either
As someone who lives in Charlottesville and a Hispanic. This breaks my heart so much. I love America and the constitution. I believe you have the right to free speech and if u want to protest go ahead. If you want to counter protest, i dont care. But to the anti protesters I want to so say one thing " Why " police clearly said " please don't confront these men, please stay off the roads" there where protest before and I didn't end as bad as this. We lost 2 men in blue during this. ( which most of you won't even remember there names, and yes I know the helicopter had a malfunction causing the crash.) for What? No one here is a hero, no one congrats. Please I beg you, be safe.
stay safe
BlueEyePatch I don't think the 2 cops died to the protesters
Not a genwunner
No suspected foul play in their helicopter crash.
Unknown Username
Live kinda close. But stay safe
Not a genwunner sorry if I wasnt clear, yes correct they didn't die due to protesters. They died in a helicopter crash. It just breaks my heart that their family lost a father because these men where trying to protect and serve the people of Charlottesville.
If you physically attack someone for their opinion, no matter what your opinion is, *you are wrong*
rahn45 and those people are the reason for the violence and why these disgusting morons had weapons in the first place.
rahn45 They cause the issue not solve it.
Aloha Snackbar ❤️
Aloha Snackbar you're right mate
honestly if someone is actually a nazi it's ok to punch them, it won't help but neither does talking to them, punching feels good
I am extremely saddened and angry at all of these bigoted individuals for their desecration of Robert E Lee and their misguided support of him. First off, let's be clear that Robert E Lee, while the general for the Confederate army, was in fact in agreement with Northern values and beliefs which is why he wished for the Union to stay intact and was offered a position by Abe Lincoln himself to take charge of the Union army. Lee obviously turned this down as he didn't wish to fight against his home state and was drawn in to serve as the Souths general. Robert E Lee was a wonderfully brilliant military tactician who sought to ease tensions before the Civil War and during Reconstruction. It's a shame he won't be remembered as such but instead as a martyr to be used by white supremacists and disgusting Neo Nazis to further their own agenda.
Sadaharu Pretty much this.
Both sides need to read more history.
I agree.
Sadaharu AQ
Agreed
100% with you on that
Sadaharu a lot of people don't know this about history. When I first heard that this protest/riot started because of the Robert E Lee statue my first thought was "but he agreed with the northerners?????" I understand that people think he's guilty by association or is a reminder of a dark era in american history but people really need to educate themselves before they start spewing discomtempt. White nationalists, neo-nazis, and white supremacists also shouldn't claim him as part of their cause because I don't think if he were alive today would stand for that kind of hatred.
I love how you show news in a neutral an unbiased way. I wish all news outlets did the same. Please continue the good work.
Whenever stories like this happen, I don't even get furious like I used to. It just feels...numb. Like all this fighting and everything? We're probably going to end up destroying ourselves. No one else needed. If anything we're becoming the same as animals or even worse. There's no humanity, no compassion, NOTHING.
When you see people celebrating the death of someone, when you see people willing to use rampant violence and try to justify themselves? Our empathy and humanity is draining away.
I understand how you feel. It's driven me to think more about God than ever. Right now I feel like the End of the World sounds like a good thing. If I get into Heaven, yay. If I don't, well I have annihilationist beliefs so eternal non-existence sounds peaceful.
Marie Verdi this is sad but horrifically true. Why does it matter what color our skin is?! All lives matter. Not just one specific race.
Got to love the police for just chilling back and letting them beat the shit out of each other for a couple hours before breaking it up.
Too chill that they forgot to fly a helicopter.
Mrgone454 too soon
L Y there's more to it than that. Cops have been restricted for years, that's not a new thing. Cops tend to be legally obligated to not do anything in this situation until told by their superior. It sucks but that's the law.
L Y
Yeah and only one white woman got killed.
Mrgone454 kek edgy
Never underestimate the power of emotional people in large groups, they're almost always bad news no matter which side of the fence they're on.
the fact that this doesn't have ads says a lot about the way youtube wants to handle this situation.
Is it just me or is "We Need to Talk About This" in the title of this show at least once a week nowadays?
"People are freaking out about"
Willets "Why people are outraged"
Willets he said the same thing about Jake Paul lol. So jake paul story = riot story.
Willets "This is getting ridiculous"
I just wish Phil wouldn't stick to one story per episode, especially if that one story is US politics or anything to do with Trump. We get it. Not everyone is a fan of the current state of America. But guess what, not all viewers of this channel are Americans. Can you please cover more diverse stories? Where was the segment "today in awesome"?
United we stand, divided we fall
Well said.
thanks
We're fucked but you're making it worse?
A Everyone should watch Tim Pool's video today, great video about this.
KilljoyTrashid that's a quote from the civil war
Thomas the Tank Engine is a pretty fuckin dank-ass show
Oh I loved it as a kid! Let's ignore everything and talk about this!
Great show 11/10 loved it. They should make a live action movie out of it.
Logan Wheeler Tomás la loca locomotora
Let's get this to top comment
Thomas upgraded to a Dodge Charger
Mr. DeFranco, I believe this has been your most well thought out and intellectual video I have seen. Thank you.
What's going on in Charlottesville is beyond disgusting and embarrassing for us all as human beings .. what a shame to have these issues HERE in 🇺🇸 & in 2017!
If it looks like a Nazi, walks like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi, heils like a Nazi, and carries torches like a Nazi, it ain't a fucking duck.
If it goose-steps like a nazi....
Best comment on the video
😂😂😂
Eva Lore What's wrong with national socialism?
Eva Lore Donald duck was a Nazi... So can it be both?
"Bigotry" the word of the year
al1nonly I don't think anyone knows what that word is.
al1nonly It is a word that embodies the Antifa Anarchists and the hard right white supremacist.
No, a bigot is someone who doesn't listen to any opinion that disagrees with theres... nothing to do with the right(sounds more like the left as a whole to me).
Thank you for your candid and mostly respectful words. Some may not entirely agree with everything you said, but it cannot be denied that you are a logical and compassionate person, at least according to the way you express yourself.
Me: America can't get any worse than it is. The North Korea threats is as bad as it can get
Charlottesville: Hold my torch
This whole thing is disgusting, what ever happened to civil discourse?
Todays so called "liberals" shut it down. Virtually every view to the right of fucking Stalin is considered wrongthink.
Lorde's tweet was disgusting yet it's still gets tens of thousands of retweets it makes me sick
Hoody it was disgusting, but the actions of the alt right at this rally were disgusting, but still get tens of thousands of supporters
SanFranGiants14 that's true but there are so many less people that agree with the alt right compared to the millions that push white guilt and other far left agendas
The amount of disconcert in our country is starting to physically pain me. I'm gonna go and lie down.
Hi. This is a controversial comment. Please take offence and leave your hate below. Thank you.
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DarkKnight2301 I can't believe you can believe such a thing. What the actual fuck is wrong with you.
Should I start at BLM and ANTIFA being terrorist groups?
That comment was SO controversial, and you have offended me horribly!
Please accept this hate, and I will await your hate in return.
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Thank you, and have a horrible day! 😃
DarkKnight2301 are you serious? if there were more people like you in the world id just kms. ughh! the ignorance
Imagine being a WWII vet who stormed the beaches of Normandy beach putting their life on the line to then have people in 2017 wave the Nazi flag and claim to be Nazis
Imagine being someone who's lived in an eastern bloc country seeing someone wear a Che Guevara shirt and a hammer and sickle pin, claiming to be communists
FpsVegas imagine seeing a quote somewhere and posting it in the comments as if it's yours
Same goes to communists as well. They fought extremism on both sides.
And communism is coming back too. Its honestly just as bad, in my opinion. Considering how communism killed 100 million people or so in the 1900s...
FpsVegas and in their own country. Truly devastating :(
I HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL THIS VIDEO ALL DAY.
John Lue been waiting since Saturday for this honestly.
Realistically same here. I actually value phils opinion and what he has to say.
John Lue same. I wish he posted videos on the weekends.
John Lue judging by your profile picture I'm guessing you watch gmg?
Rocky Puok same man
You said far more eloquently what I have been saying since before this incident happened. The violence must stop and that's violence on all sides. The constant propagation of hate, vandalism and violence is not, can not and never will solve the problems we have, it only makes matters worse and even creating problems were there weren't ones before.
maybe we should just have the police actually deal with violent protests, instead of just watching and hoping "it gets better"
Jacob Melone Would probably have the military setup a barrier around the site as soon as someone enters it with a makeshift weapon/weapon and a shield.
Then declare the area as a war zone and those how enters are of cause prepared to give there life.
Zandman26 yeah, no. you do not want to reopen that can of worms
The police has a "stand down" order from the major himself. Nothing new. Maybe the major of Charlottesville is also a fan of ANTIFA.
Zandman26 yeah, that's incredibly stupid. Not only would it set an extremely dangerous precedent, it would also turn the people who died in the protests into martyrs.
Martyrs are born when they are fighting for the peoples will. If it's only a bunch of people looking for trouble and fighting each other over something silly like a statue I don't think that would even be given a second of attention.
I don't care if you believe in "BLM" and "WLM", what angers me is when those groups use that as a platform for hate speech and violence. Then they go to the excuse of "freedom of speech". I viciously disagree with some people's viewpoint, but if we don't learn as a society to listen and communicate then a solution is far in the future.
ChickenNoodleSoup speech is not violence
Hate speech doesn't exist. The only speech they should be shut down are calls to violence.
ChickenNoodleSoup true, Speech is much more powerful in a civil society
Jake Johns
You don't think hate speech is a call to violence?
Moana No. How would it be?
lieutenant cullen was the husband of my 4th grade teacher. 😢
Zane Cox Sorry, dude.
Zane Cox that sucks bro
wow, pretty shit
my condoloences
That's terrible, I'm so sorry dude
Trump ran on this level of divisiveness during his campaign. The fruits of which were realized in Charlottesville. He actually said during a campaign stop that he would pay for the legal expenses of anyone that got into an altercation with people that did not support him.
i'm white and i completely disagree with everything that happened, i just hate when people say all white people are to blame. i, just like many other white people, had nothing to do with this and are disgusted by this
People who blame all white people or all black people are brainwashed
pie man eh, just don't even let it bother you know lol like if you know you're not to blame, there's no need to stress and try to prove it, right? that's how i process all this lol
If anything the counter protesters were largely sensible white people, so I'm not sure who's thinking all White people are to blame.
fernando eduardo tell that to BLM and anti-fa when they chant "anti-white" look it up they chant anti white at their rallies
pie man yup blaming white people for this is like blaming all Muslims for Daesh. It's just stupid.
Violence creates more violence.
And violence can't end without violence
so kill all the leftshit
Tristan Miller That is true of every sovreign state that still stands though, and most of the problems theu faced staying that way as well...
Not saying you are wrong, just that this isn't special. Even Switzerland has remained uninvaded because such a military action would always result in defeat against its gun toting populace within their well fortified mountainous homeland.
Identity politics are bad, but there is no putting the genie back in the bottle.
Maybe pushing our anti white rhetoric even harder this time around will have better results.
So your Constitution, Declaration of Independence and laws say Americans are equal, you have a right to religion, you are free to pursue happiness. Now the KKK does NOT believe in or preach equality, the Neo-Nazis do not believe in or preach freedom of religion and both advocate and have exercised violence against various groups, robbing them of their safety and happiness. Yet they hide behind the 1st Amendment with the specific goal of TAKING OTHER RIGHTS (given in the same documents) AWAY from their targets. Their freedom, their safety, their religion and their equality. I do not have to physically attack someone to make them feel fear, unequal or oppressed. This is why protecting hate speech is fucked. They (Supremacists, Neo-Nazis & Alt-Right) are free, the victims are not.
Well. America is fucked up. I want to live there somewhere in the future, but after seeing this, man i am scared for my life
DonkeyDong don't be that is 2 groups of really fucked up random racist on both sides.
DonkeyDong you might as well move to North Korea, the US and North Korea are pretty much the same
DonkeyDong he left out huge parts of the story. like the permit, the antifa being bussed in, the permit being illegally revoked ECT ECT
iMelterr Dont compare the US to NK. One is a communist suffering nation.
Somewhat feel you, i wanna move but at the same time im like na the UK is a happy place in comparison I'll stay
4:11 What happened to not showing terrorist's/killer's faces & names? I thought you were against doing that phil
This guy wasn't doing it for the fame or attention.
Yes, he was. He wants to be a hero among these white extremist f**ks. He wants to be an integral part of their history.
He wants the faces out there so we know who to be careful of and hopefully their bosses will see this and fire them
Ari Goldstein You have been defending neo nazis and white supremicists. Congratulations
I think he mostly did it to show that this is an extremist and not all white males are like this. At least thats what I assume.
Extremists on both sides are the only thing motivating debate in our country now. The more this goes on, the more our country splits into fighting against each other, instead of working together to root out those that represent the worst of our society.
Viridon The people at a whole is too stupid to do that.
I'm fine with that. Let the leftist extremists and rightists extremists kill each other. Then we won't have nazis or radical feminism anymore and we can get on with solving real problems like world hunger instead of yelling at each other about privelege and skin color.
how come every time someone protest in america, the opposing group show up for violence? what about respecting each others right to manifest?
Philly D always speaking facts💯
What's wrong with saying stuff like we condemn all hate and violence in it's name? I get the need to get specific after an event like this but condemning all hate and violence is pretty clear. Don't make me defend Trump but most of the drama isn't about what he said or didn't say, it comes from the various groups that want to twist his words to their own ends.
Dan & Jen Nevada thank you for saying that. I was wondering if anyone would say this
I'm with you on defending Trump. The dialogue around him is so toxic that any lover of truth has to look at it and go "well actually.." which sucks because I do not want to be on the record as defending this man, but as a lover of truth and honest dialogue, how can I avoid it?
*_[insert an obviously politicized comment in a non-contextualized manner]_*
I agreed with basically everything you said, this was an amazing video. Much love. ❥
What I don't understand is how someone can admit they are a nazi, and not be arrested. Why is it legal to have that belief?
kabbinj2 the first amendment
Damn, this is the most hate filled comments I've seen yet. How is it so damn hard for yall to love eachother
Jamison Jameson agreed ❤️
Jamison Jameson i dont love them but i dont hate them. I respect them. #stopsayinglove,startsayingrespect. (But yes indeed i love yall 😙 lol)
Obama caused this and the jews
Jamison Jameson the bases of a Nazi is to hate everyone and everything not like them. They feed off hate
Max74747 Watch yourself, you might bleed on that edge.
The statement by Lorde really made me mad. I agree 100% this is unacceptable, but to blame all white people for what happened is just insulting. I am a white male and I am the furthest thing from who those people are. They are hardcore conservatives who agree with, most likely, anarchist beliefs. I am a strong liberal who has many very far left beliefs and am strongly against any sort of violence whatsoever and believe we need to stop learning about wars in schools, but why they happen and how to prevent them. To put me or anyone no matter skin color or background in the same group as those awful people is just insulting.
She's got a tour to sell tickets to -- doesn't being woke help sell tickets?
Nicely put. Your videos are very useful for me as non-American, but interested in the US.
Phil talking about Antifa is completely relevant in this case, as there is quite a bit of evidence that they were the ones who began the violence, and are known for violent protests. He should condemn both although the obvious onus is on the White supremacists who had one of there own murder others. However you don't want to empower a terrorist organization like Antifa to do even more damage then they have already done, by feeling justified in there violence toward anyone on the right.
Do a face reveal at 6M subs.
Yess
he should wait till at least 15M
nice channel quality content subbed
Phil is actually Arya Stark.
Jesus 50 million, and show off the ruby beautiful bastard button
I agree with everything you said in today's show apart from the end when you said that most of these people are gonna convert or something. Because the most annoying thing for me personally is those statements saying "it's all white people" that is so annoying because the majority of white people are rational people and should not be compared with neo-nazis, white supremacists or the KKK, the reason I believe we have this big uprising in alt-right movements is because of this idiotic mentality of "all white people are [insert type of discrimination].
But nobody said it "was all white people" except a 18 y/o from New Zealand... Who the fuck cares what she has to say?
Pretty much sums it up. Anti-white sentiments are whipping whites into a frenzy, and they're saying anything they can to hurt the people that are hurting them. They're lashing out. Any armchair psychologist could have predicted this were they not so busy telling white people to fuck themselves, too.
My moms friend is in the hospital from this with broken legs so please pray🙏
USA one step forward 100 step back
Phil, usually you only say a terrorist's name if they're still at large, but this guy was already apprehended. Why'd you report his name this time?
(Crazies, this isn't to insinuate Phil treats domestic terrorist differently. It's just a legitimate question about his usual strategy.)
Curious Boy very good question
yh i agree, maybe he wanted to provide context of what the guys beliefs were, but he could have done that without showing his face or name
I think it's because he's not a "tv terrorist". You know, he doesn't look like a terrorist. So I think Phil is trying to remind us that terrorism is not an ideologically exclusive thing.
It also might be because /pol/ lied and spread lies about the attacker.
Curious Boy All the blatantly racist black on white crime is NEVER treated or reported like this. Honestly ask yourself why that is....
Double speak detected
This is NOT about being conservative or liberal, thousands of American boys are buried in Europe, who died trying to defeat Nazism, and the domestic terror and lack of genuine response from the president are a disgrace to their memory and everything this country should stand for, regardless of your political views.
Jameson Kirk Go fuck yourself. We're tired of your concern trolling Libby. Leftists have nothing but hate for the greatest generation and nothing but disdain for what they stood for.
When I saw the Vice News episode for this incident I felt so lost and helpless that I prayed for the first time in a couple years. I just want everyone to know if you want to fight back evil things like this just treat others like human beings and be friendly towards each other. That's my two cents. Have a good day.
I'm also not a fan of the "white guilt" mentality, but I do agree that something needs to be done. What can I do? I'm a 30 y.o. mom with very few friends, but I want to help. Marches and protests don't feel like they're doing any good these days.
Be a nice person to others. They say a smile spreads pretty far. So you do not need to change the world, but only effect it in small ways. We can all take heart in that knowing most of us are not radicals.
Alyssa Trox you can serve other people who don't care about you and will only use you as a pawn to further their own agenda but I would rather not let my race be my defining characteristic
There are many much more efficient ways to spread your message than violence, name-calling, or taunting. For example, you can learn to debate and actually win debates, so that people will actually understand and agree with you.
You didn't do anything wrong. Don't hate yourself because of the color of your skin. You want to help? Go to a soup kitchen or do a little charity work. However under no circumstances think that due to the fucking tone of your skin that you're somehow responsible for what others do. That's insanity.
I definitely don't hate myself, nor do I feel responsible for anything. I simply would like to help somehow make the world a bit better.
What is happening to the world 😰
Madison Lynn it's getting fucked beyond help
It's ending. Isn't it just fantastic?!
The Arceus Nova Ending? No. Maybe humanity.
It's improving. In fact, we're at the least violent point in human history.
Agent Indiana That's still just fine :)
The thing is that these people do have legitimate grievances but the issue is they too are being ostracized by people for their sex or colour of their skin.
What we can do to help alleviate the tension these people have is to discuss, debate, and chat with them.
I'm a coloured person and what do I do when I meet a racist person? I show them kindness and try to get them to understand that I am no different than they are.
Try to find out why they hold these views and try to prove them wrong. If you choose to be mean and violent towards them all you will do is make them believe any preconceived notions they have to be correct. Fighting violence with violence and hate with hate will always lead to the same fate.
There is a saying that we should try to bring back, "Kill your enemies with kindness."
+Black Ribbon That's the thing. Not enough people nowadays don't even want to talk about why this stuff happens. The only way to find a solution is to find out why they think this way then to convince them otherwise by having civil and open discussions.
It seems to be that way as many would much rather just bring up the past in order to end the discussion and claim themselves correct.
Many say that there is no room to discuss or chat with Nazi's simply for those killed during WWII. Though, I am sure these people are perfectly fine chatting or being near a Japanese person despite the fact the Japanese attempted a genocide of their own that took more lives than the Nazi's did.
The biggest issue was the police were told to stand down during the entire incident.
It's becoming incredibly clear that there is a drive towards radical views in our time on both sides of the spectrum. While you made the stance that you believe more individuals were coming towards the center I believe that blanket arguments are pushing moderates to the fringes. Arguments like "all white people are racist", "your opinion is lesser than mine because blank", or "all right wing/ conservatives are nazis" only pushes us further from each other. We need to establish that all parties only want the best for America, different parties have different images on how to do so. Just because you don't agree with someone's viewpoint does not give you the right to be violent or label them loosely. I condemn all violence, others seem to pick and choose what violence they want to disavow, after this weeks attack people cheered on Twitter for a white nationalist being punched. While I don't agree with his stance you can not be violent towards him for his views. Again, he is a piece of shit, but violence is not the answer. As a country we need to start treating each other as individuals not as ideological members. As a right leaning individual I do agree that Trump needs to be criticized for his policies and faults, but what news stories have become are drivel. He has condemned bigotry and racism of all kinds, and that is a positive. What really needs to occur is he needs to address concern about domestic terrorism in the forms of white supremacy and white nationalism. But, to say that he is a supremacist because he doesn't mention them by name is utter hilarity. This situation will only be managed through genuine talks about difficult topics.
Correction : 'everything right of Marxism is far right, therefore Nazi, and it's OK to punch Nazis'
We need more rational middle people like you. You and many others are the ones who will fix this country.
It's all getting very reminiscent of the Wiemar Republic and the Nazi/Communist clashes
Awe Orbit im leftist and i agree with you
Ammoniumbicarbonat and we all know how that ended up for commies 😂
I was really hoping that my generation wouldn't be the ones who threw the world into chaos but it seems that we are heading that way. I consider myself in the middle not left or right, and It almost feels like there is less and less wiggle room with more and more people going to the far right or far left. we need open discourse but I don't see that happening. I think a lot of people have already made their minds up. The left can justify violence because the right is violent and the right can justify violence because the left is violent. and all of us who say no one is justified get set aside because you cant beat the group mentality that has been instilled on each side.
I completely agree and it's so sad, I just wish that everyone would come together and actually have an honest discussion instead of trying to prove someone is right or wrong because its not benefiting no one.
Don't Americans have better things to do ? If you have nothing to do then you find something to get mad at? What's happening with you all ?
We are being divided by extremists elements that are trying to speak for all. Antifa, MLB, and Black Panthers vs. White Nationalists, White Supremacists, and Neo-Nazis. Both sides are constantly riding everyone in the middle to pick sides while destroying the very foundations of our nation. They want it to be Minority vs. Whites, South vs. North, and Republican Vs. Democrats. To me it feels more like manipulation and power grabs by the leaders of these groups, misleading the public while condemning anyone that doesn't share their views.
It is a sad thing and I'm sick of both sides.
Carlinho Martienes
The devil finds work for idle hands (or in this case minds)
Carlinho Martienes over priviledged with too much empty time.. honestly
This issue hasn't been resolved in decades, it keeps getting pushed under the table.
It's going to be bad if it's never resolved.
they are mad because they are the native population and are routinely discriminated against and have had 1/5th in reduction of majority population in half a century. in another half century it will be even less. People complain about native american indians, but seem to have no qualms about their own race getting wiped out despite building the modern world. world is fucked.
You took the words out of my mouth Phil, kept wanting to comment but you pretty much summed up all my ideas.
HOLY SHIT!
A new thumbnail pose? This must be serious.
For all you saying that America will never be united anymore or that "we're beyond a point of no return " This gives all the extremists (both left and right) exactly what they want! Don't let them win by us giving up!
That's so sick to shout out "white lives matter" and put up the Nazi sign. I literally wanted to throw up.
lmao white lives have always mattered this was country made by white people for white people , it's the minorties that don't have a voice
Imperial America You aren't. Just because a country dilutes its majority with an influx of minorities doesn't mean that the majority will become oppressed. South Africa and Hati are amazing examples where caste systems allowed powerful white minority owners to control the new or ever-sustained influx of natives or "minorities."
systematically marginalized and replaced? What is this fuckery? Just because you are not the only thing that matters anymore does not mean you are being marginalized, and just because there are more brown people in the world than white people because humans have sex, does not mean you are being systematically replaced. Get a grip
wow , that probably was the most ignorant comment in this whole thread , if you think all minorites want to do is harm white people , you probably have never been around or near a mexican , black or asian, nobody is worried about you , we just want equality , equal opportunity and so on , also you forget that europeans raped everything in their path so most black people in america aren't even fully black , and that goes for hispanic's as well so if im honest this is more about skin color then race , this whole situation is about people who are light skin then their better then people who are dark skin , like its always been since this earth was first formed
Your country? The soil of North America belonged to other people before the europeans came, and there have always been non-white people in America. If fact, the infrastructure and economy of the United States was built on the labour of non-white people. You are just afraid that other people will treat you as badly as you want to treat them. You are literally saying that you think you are better than other human beings based on race, and if you think that, then I, as a white person, am perfectly happy to have you replaced in favour of people who are not quite so bigoted.
Wow, you have a better and more objective take on this than all other pundits I have seen. Good job