@professorninja2681 ehh. Not really because the stuff in the undercity doesn't really help you with your plan. In contrast, there is a Tron initiative build, utilizing both Avenging Hunter and the white Goliath initiative guy!
Yes, the "draw a card on beeing put into GY" is extremly relevant for kuldotha burn (kuldotha rebirth the star) or if you sac it to deadly dispute (e.g. in the eggs version of tron)
@@jesusdiaz6589 yess! Tron Eggs is very good! And oh yeah! Especially since Ashnods Alter has gone down in price significantly because of Brothers War! But yeah they're basically the same deck lol
Same here, I’m gonna try to make this deck with ephemerate & initiative. I’ve always wanted to but I didn’t have the courage. But you just showed me boulderbranch golem 😮
@styleanthology90 Boulderbranch Golem us actually like my favorite card lol. Well check out Flicker Tron! That deck is an ephemerate style deck where it flickers big boys like Denova Horror. It's an EXTREMELY strong control deck right now! And if you're interested in an initiative flicker deck, there's a bant flicker as well 😁 so many options! But brew your heart away! The great thing about Pauper is it is a brewers paradise!
Sick late night upload, can't wait to watch. Lowkey this channel kinda got me into magic and there's a magic store at the mall I go to so I might get some cards there sometime!
@1:30 I believe tron comes from Voltron because u gotta assemble the pieces (the urza lands) to get the deck going. Voltron is a giant robot made up of 5 smaller robots, kinda like power rangers and the megazords.
I'm doing well with a similar list, getting one first place, two second places, and one third place out of four weekly Pauper tournaments. Mine has 4 Self Assemblers in the main instead of the Fangren Marauders to maximize Ancient Stirrings' ability. I have 3 Crop Rotations which helps enormously with assembling Tron. I also use Energy Refractors instead of Chromatic Spheres since I don't have Marauders anyway, and it removes any worries about colored mana. Instead of Crystal Grottos, I have 2 Khalni Gardens in the main for the chump blocks and against Edict effects, and one Bojuka Bog main which I can Crop Rotation for in a pinch. With my build, I have a very good matchup against Grixis Affinity, Dimir Terror and Izzet Faeries, basically against any control or midrange list. Burn is a pain, but oddly enough, I haven't lost to it because after losing game 1, I always won the next two games after sideboarding in Weather the Storm. Combo is the worst matchup, specially Walls, which I don't have a way to interact with. Moggwarts and Altar Tron are doable, I just need to make sure to save a Faerie Macabre in hand for when they try to combo off.
Wow! Thanks for the feedback on the back! I do really like the Assembly Workers, and you're right - that plus Energy Refractor instead of Sphere makes Crop Rotation much better. My perception of Crop Rotation though, and thus is because others asked as well, is that the Tron Assembly package I have here is identical to the Moderns version, which has been successful for over 5 years now. With that being said, of course we don't have Sylvan Scrying. With mainboard Fangrens, I just really didn't feel comfortable sacrificing my Forests. Plus, once you assemble Tron, Crop Rotation becomes a dead card in hand. Abundant Harvest is soooo nice when you complete tron and have that extra green mana. It allows you to find so much stuff. So idk. But I definitely could see myself swapping out Fangren for Assembly. I just like having the unnecessary life gain lol. It's made matchups like Boros Synth and Burn soooo easy to sneak wins from. I also personally am not a fan of the Bojuka Bog. Turn 1 Relic game 1 is insanely satisfying because the opponent will never have an answer for it, and you lock them out of their graveyard for the entire game. Yeah, Walls is a REALLY good deck. I love that deck. But it is extremely hard to interact with
What sideboard cards are good vs the deck? Specifically for BW ephemerate? I've got 3 extra chainers edict and 3-4 Revoke existence. Seems enough? Which deck would you consider favorable in this matchup?
Killing thus decks big pay off creatures can be worth it. Once they have Tron though, those big guys just keep on coming. I think your most important targets are Ulamogs Crusher, and Wretched Gryff. Colossus is a big body, but he's just a big body. Wretched Gryff has flying which can snag the Initiative from you, and Ulamogs Crusher with Annihilator 2 is busted. Chainers Edict is good, but I think direct removal is probably preferred over Chainers Edict. I think Unexpected Fangs is pretty good. It allows you to keep your life up if you put it on Pegasus or Vampiric Sovereign. It also allows your Vampiric to block Wretched Gryff easier. I also think Duress could be a great card, because if the Tron player keeps 1 land, and expedition map, and a bunch of big guys, that Duress will CRIPPLE them! I am not sure what the favorable match up is. I'd say Orzhov because of how insane Initiative is, but definitely something we'll put to the test during the new Paper Pauper Playing!
MONO GREEN TRON LETS GOOOOOOO but PLEASE zoom out the card camera just a small bit. i think it looks better to keep the card edges within margins of the video edges instead of being as close as possible
Personally for me, I have a soft spot for Mono Green Tron due to my history with Modern. I love casting giant creatures for cheap that makes me opponent go 🤬. Now from a meta standpoint, Flicker Tron is significantly more versatile and has tones of "try not to die until I can lock the opponent out" interaction. So it's really a play preference for you. Sure, Mono Green Tron is more susceptible to "okay. I kill it with cast down", but for me, I enjoy flooding the board with giant threats. So it's whatever you prefer 😁
Yes! So, with Prototype, the creature only becomes that color once it's casted for the prototype mana cost. You're right about commander; Boulderbranch Golem would be considered a green card. But in regular Magic, it's by default colorless since the prototype cost is an alternate cost.
@CardMasterBrian I just don't think it's necessary. It's a great card, but I've been playing mono green tron in modern for a long time and Crop Rotation isn't legal there, and you get tron perfectly fine. I like abundent harvest because it's not a dead card mid game. Once you have tron, you have tron. So being able to then pick nonland is super strong
No what I’m saying is if you or anybody was to play against a artifact/sacrifice deck Fangren Marauder will still the game because of the gaining 5 life for each artifact being sacrifice
@@paperpauperplayer Locations mostly, I haven't heard of any pauper nights at my game store and I tried looking into online options but couldn't really find anything
@adrianmetz3013 well 1. Inspire your LGS to get Pauper nights started! I'm working on that right now myself! 2. If you go to the Paupsr Reddit, they have cam tournaments once or twice a month! Additionally, there's also just MTGO!
@@paperpauperplayer I just checked out the reddit page and it looks like they have one next month that I will defintiely check out! Depending how it goes I'll see about getting in the lgs😂 But I found your videos a couple of days ago and I've been loving them!
@adrianmetz3013 oh wait, seriously? Well that's ironic! Haha! Hopefully you can get some good games out! What are you planning on playing? And thank you so much! I'm really glad they've peaked your interest! 😊
Bro. Bro, bro..... reread Ancient Sturing. Rip 5 off the top? Yes. Put one on your had and 4 to the bottem. Nope, your MAY put one in your hand and the rest on bottem. So depending on situation. Rip the 5 off the top. And if it's not beneficial atm. Or your at 7 cards in hand. Dump the 5 on bottom. That "may" can be powerful. Deck/Build ar ok around it. Lol I just had to put that out. Have no idea why it erkked me and now I sound like a rule jockey diqkhead. Sorry bro.
You're good. You're right. It does say may. But there is never a time on this planet where you're ancient stirrings and not grabbing something or have to discard to 7. If you're stuck in that situation, you've already lost the game lol
@@paperpauperplayer true true. Lol I'm blaming my outburst to a lack of sleep. I built a deck once. I think modern format. Using Stomping Slabs as the main win con. Lol the idea was to group 3 copies of Slabs together within 7 cards of one another, play the 4th. And hit your opponent for 21. Lol
Chromatic star is also good to sacrifice to makshift munitions or kuldotha or deadly dispute aswell. Ghetto ichor wellspring haha
Oh shit actually true
@@paperpauperplayer wonder if the green initiative guy is worth playing
@professorninja2681 ehh. Not really because the stuff in the undercity doesn't really help you with your plan. In contrast, there is a Tron initiative build, utilizing both Avenging Hunter and the white Goliath initiative guy!
Yes, the "draw a card on beeing put into GY" is extremly relevant for kuldotha burn (kuldotha rebirth the star) or if you sac it to deadly dispute (e.g. in the eggs version of tron)
thanks for sharing your enthusiasm of Pauper/Magic with us :) i'm actually building a paper tron deck soon too! happy holidays!!
Thank you for the support! Of course! Which one are you building? And Happy Holidays to you as well! 😊
@@paperpauperplayer eggs tron! and gonna get 2-3 copies of ashnod's altar for altar tron since they're very similar lists :)
@@jesusdiaz6589 yess! Tron Eggs is very good! And oh yeah! Especially since Ashnods Alter has gone down in price significantly because of Brothers War! But yeah they're basically the same deck lol
Same here, I’m gonna try to make this deck with ephemerate & initiative. I’ve always wanted to but I didn’t have the courage. But you just showed me boulderbranch golem 😮
@styleanthology90 Boulderbranch Golem us actually like my favorite card lol. Well check out Flicker Tron! That deck is an ephemerate style deck where it flickers big boys like Denova Horror. It's an EXTREMELY strong control deck right now! And if you're interested in an initiative flicker deck, there's a bant flicker as well 😁 so many options! But brew your heart away! The great thing about Pauper is it is a brewers paradise!
Sick late night upload, can't wait to watch. Lowkey this channel kinda got me into magic and there's a magic store at the mall I go to so I might get some cards there sometime!
DO IT! Play Pauper! It's worth it!
Pauper got me back into magic after 10+ yrs not playing haha
@@Ian-qf5ny same! I stopped playing about 2ish years ago but Pauper has completely rekindled my love for it!
@1:30 I believe tron comes from Voltron because u gotta assemble the pieces (the urza lands) to get the deck going. Voltron is a giant robot made up of 5 smaller robots, kinda like power rangers and the megazords.
That makes sense!
I'm doing well with a similar list, getting one first place, two second places, and one third place out of four weekly Pauper tournaments.
Mine has 4 Self Assemblers in the main instead of the Fangren Marauders to maximize Ancient Stirrings' ability. I have 3 Crop Rotations which helps enormously with assembling Tron. I also use Energy Refractors instead of Chromatic Spheres since I don't have Marauders anyway, and it removes any worries about colored mana. Instead of Crystal Grottos, I have 2 Khalni Gardens in the main for the chump blocks and against Edict effects, and one Bojuka Bog main which I can Crop Rotation for in a pinch.
With my build, I have a very good matchup against Grixis Affinity, Dimir Terror and Izzet Faeries, basically against any control or midrange list. Burn is a pain, but oddly enough, I haven't lost to it because after losing game 1, I always won the next two games after sideboarding in Weather the Storm.
Combo is the worst matchup, specially Walls, which I don't have a way to interact with. Moggwarts and Altar Tron are doable, I just need to make sure to save a Faerie Macabre in hand for when they try to combo off.
Wow! Thanks for the feedback on the back!
I do really like the Assembly Workers, and you're right - that plus Energy Refractor instead of Sphere makes Crop Rotation much better. My perception of Crop Rotation though, and thus is because others asked as well, is that the Tron Assembly package I have here is identical to the Moderns version, which has been successful for over 5 years now. With that being said, of course we don't have Sylvan Scrying. With mainboard Fangrens, I just really didn't feel comfortable sacrificing my Forests. Plus, once you assemble Tron, Crop Rotation becomes a dead card in hand. Abundant Harvest is soooo nice when you complete tron and have that extra green mana. It allows you to find so much stuff. So idk. But I definitely could see myself swapping out Fangren for Assembly. I just like having the unnecessary life gain lol. It's made matchups like Boros Synth and Burn soooo easy to sneak wins from.
I also personally am not a fan of the Bojuka Bog. Turn 1 Relic game 1 is insanely satisfying because the opponent will never have an answer for it, and you lock them out of their graveyard for the entire game.
Yeah, Walls is a REALLY good deck. I love that deck. But it is extremely hard to interact with
Nooooooo not the tabbssssssssss
Lmfao jokes aside you've been on point with these deck techs recently. I've been really enjoying them!
AHAA! I GOTCHU! I was hoping you'd see this one lmao.
Genuinely thank you though! Glad you're enjoying! Hope you're having a good holiday! 😁
@@paperpauperplayer same to you brother
What sideboard cards are good vs the deck? Specifically for BW ephemerate? I've got 3 extra chainers edict and 3-4 Revoke existence. Seems enough? Which deck would you consider favorable in this matchup?
Killing thus decks big pay off creatures can be worth it. Once they have Tron though, those big guys just keep on coming. I think your most important targets are Ulamogs Crusher, and Wretched Gryff. Colossus is a big body, but he's just a big body. Wretched Gryff has flying which can snag the Initiative from you, and Ulamogs Crusher with Annihilator 2 is busted. Chainers Edict is good, but I think direct removal is probably preferred over Chainers Edict.
I think Unexpected Fangs is pretty good. It allows you to keep your life up if you put it on Pegasus or Vampiric Sovereign. It also allows your Vampiric to block Wretched Gryff easier. I also think Duress could be a great card, because if the Tron player keeps 1 land, and expedition map, and a bunch of big guys, that Duress will CRIPPLE them!
I am not sure what the favorable match up is. I'd say Orzhov because of how insane Initiative is, but definitely something we'll put to the test during the new Paper Pauper Playing!
MONO GREEN TRON LETS GOOOOOOO
but PLEASE zoom out the card camera just a small bit. i think it looks better to keep the card edges within margins of the video edges instead of being as close as possible
The best Tron! This is one of my older reviews and my camera has been pushed back a bit in my more recent stuff!
Nice video! I'm thinking on build a tron but cannot decide which version. Would you go for mono green or the fickler one?
Personally for me, I have a soft spot for Mono Green Tron due to my history with Modern. I love casting giant creatures for cheap that makes me opponent go 🤬. Now from a meta standpoint, Flicker Tron is significantly more versatile and has tones of "try not to die until I can lock the opponent out" interaction. So it's really a play preference for you. Sure, Mono Green Tron is more susceptible to "okay. I kill it with cast down", but for me, I enjoy flooding the board with giant threats. So it's whatever you prefer 😁
wow. this list looks actually solid
It performs so well. It's so hard for the opponent to catch up in value once you get ahead!
Nice deck, but you should definitly consider playing Maul Splicer, it is such a sick card in a deck that runs 8 7/7 Golems :D
Okay actually, that's insanely hilarious to cascade into. I may actually see what I can do to squeeze a few copies in if not 4 of
@@paperpauperplayer I personally run her at 2, more felt a little clunky. But yeah, it's the absolute lottery win to cascade into her. :D
@@Ex4_ thanks for the recommendation!
Would love to see more Contant with this deck
I wish I could play it literally every day. It's so much fun lol
sick deck i think ill get it, alltough i would replace fiery cannonade for breath weapon, same spell but hits Crimson Fleet Commodore
Good point! Definitely worth noting if you got a filthy cascade player ilat your LGS! 😂
So prototype creatures are colorless artifacts even with their prototype cost? Wasn’t sure if commander “color identity” rules applied there
Yes! So, with Prototype, the creature only becomes that color once it's casted for the prototype mana cost. You're right about commander; Boulderbranch Golem would be considered a green card. But in regular Magic, it's by default colorless since the prototype cost is an alternate cost.
This deck is great! Cascade is such a powerful effect!
Cascade is dumb as shit lmao. But yes the deck is extremely fun!
@@paperpauperplayer For sure! Any reason why you don't play Crop rotation?
@CardMasterBrian I just don't think it's necessary. It's a great card, but I've been playing mono green tron in modern for a long time and Crop Rotation isn't legal there, and you get tron perfectly fine. I like abundent harvest because it's not a dead card mid game. Once you have tron, you have tron. So being able to then pick nonland is super strong
I built the deck and went 2/1at my locale FNM also if you come across an artifact/sacrifices decor you are winning for sure
Nice! Not too bad!
And do you mean like adding artifact sacrificing cards to the deck? Like alter tron?
No what I’m saying is if you or anybody was to play against a artifact/sacrifice deck Fangren Marauder will still the game because of the gaining 5 life for each artifact being sacrifice
@@retrogalaxy4 OH! okay I'm sorry, I miss understood your comment. Yeah, Fangren is an absolute UNIT against those decks haha
awesome!!!! thx for the video!!!!
Thank you for the view! 😊
Where are some good places to start playing pauper?
As in actual locations or deck suggestions?
@@paperpauperplayer Locations mostly, I haven't heard of any pauper nights at my game store and I tried looking into online options but couldn't really find anything
@adrianmetz3013 well 1. Inspire your LGS to get Pauper nights started! I'm working on that right now myself!
2. If you go to the Paupsr Reddit, they have cam tournaments once or twice a month! Additionally, there's also just MTGO!
@@paperpauperplayer I just checked out the reddit page and it looks like they have one next month that I will defintiely check out! Depending how it goes I'll see about getting in the lgs😂 But I found your videos a couple of days ago and I've been loving them!
@adrianmetz3013 oh wait, seriously? Well that's ironic! Haha! Hopefully you can get some good games out! What are you planning on playing?
And thank you so much! I'm really glad they've peaked your interest! 😊
Bro. Bro, bro..... reread Ancient Sturing. Rip 5 off the top? Yes. Put one on your had and 4 to the bottem. Nope, your MAY put one in your hand and the rest on bottem. So depending on situation. Rip the 5 off the top. And if it's not beneficial atm. Or your at 7 cards in hand. Dump the 5 on bottom.
That "may" can be powerful. Deck/Build ar ok around it. Lol
I just had to put that out. Have no idea why it erkked me and now I sound like a rule jockey diqkhead.
Sorry bro.
You're good. You're right. It does say may. But there is never a time on this planet where you're ancient stirrings and not grabbing something or have to discard to 7. If you're stuck in that situation, you've already lost the game lol
@@paperpauperplayer true true. Lol I'm blaming my outburst to a lack of sleep.
I built a deck once. I think modern format. Using Stomping Slabs as the main win con. Lol the idea was to group 3 copies of Slabs together within 7 cards of one another, play the 4th. And hit your opponent for 21. Lol
Maelstrom, not Maelstorm.
Mall Storm
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