If you'd like to learn more about the DJD, here's a quick checklist of "More than Meets the Eye" (MTMTE!) issues to read, all available individually or in trade paperbacks on Comixology! MTMTE #7-8 - the DJD are introduced and battle the Scavengers! (collected in MTMTE Vol 2) MTMTE #31-33 - the DJD's first encounter with the Lost Light! (collected in MTMTE Vol 6) MTMTE #39 - Tarn leans of Megatron's change of heart in this all-DJD spotlight issue! (collected in MTMTE vol 8) MTMTE #50-55 - The big finale, the DJD versus Megatron! (collected in MTMTE vol 10)
Yes. In the world of the Transformers, stranger things have happened. So I am hoping to see the DJD in a toy line. Hire's how I see there classes in figures. Legends class: Nickel. Agent 113, renamed, Spike Fox. Delux class: Kaon. Vos. Voager class: Tarn. Leader class: Tesarur. Helex.
I would love to see a Shattered Glass version of the DJD, maybe have them be anger management counselors or psychiatrists. You could even have Kaon turn into a comfy couch.
Ohhhh, yes! I've always wanted to see the DJD and Wreckers fight (not sure if they ever did, I'm behind on the comics) but Shattered Glass DJD and Wreckers would be the best.
-Tarn's music boosts his allies and raises morale -Kaon turns into a couch, and can release energy that calms people down -Helex has an oven that he cooks cookies in and he likes to headpat people -Tesarus has a Time Out Box on his torso, that does nothing, just works as a time off. -Vos is an artistic individual, prefering subjects drawing how they feel and transforms into an electronic artistic set, a drawing pad basically -the Pet is a mistreated beast mode autobot that they are treating well and trying to fix his T-Cog -Nickel is basically the same, but much more grumpy, hiding her care for them.
Kaon was constructed cold (meaning a Spark was extracted from the Matrix and placed into a pre-constructed body). Therefore, whoever was in charge of building the bodies thought to themselves “what if an electric chair was sentient?”
Someone decided to make a sentient torture device. I wonder who would think that would be a good idea. Alternatively he was constructed cold but was reformatted out of his own wish.
The DJD in a nutshell: A group of psychologically broken Decepticons who kill everyone in the most sadistic and brutal way possible.. (RIP Trailcutter...).
Kyle Dawson No, the opposite. Bayverse Prime could have been a damn Decepticon. Also, managed to kill off Megatron... about... I can’t even count. At least once per movie, not counting the times Prime beat Megs to an inch of his life.
I liked Tarn's personality in the comics. Although he was brutal, he had charm and charisma, even if beneath it all, was filled with thoughts of insecurity and doubt.
"I wear it so that when I allow the others to have their way with you -- When I give them free rein to indulge themselves - No one notices when I close my eyes."
@@undyne7808 The thing is, Tarn's actions are what you hate him for. He's definitely got charm, but whenever it lets up and he destroys everything you cared about, that's when you remember "Oh right, he's an asshole."
Tbf, the WAY the DJD conduct themselves is probably a little too much, even for some of those Michael Bay movies. But it's something I can see Bay definitely doing lol
I like how Tarn is what would happen if Onslaught went off the deep end. Also if Beast Wars can get away with Tarantulas being a cannibal, Rampage being a serial killer, as well as Arachnid from Prime, you never know.
@@sebastiancalvey1226 Tarantulas was moments away from eating Cheetor in like the 3rd episode of BW. As for rampage he had *quite* the reputation, to the point that the Axalons main mission aside from exploration was disposing of him on an uninhabited planet (The Axalon was the Maximal ship/ base for the first 2 seasons of BW)
Starscream was on there, but the DJD like to go in order. The only times that they did not were Overlord & Megatron because they outright stopped being Decepticons and were insanely powerful. Additionally Megatron liked keeping Starscream around, not because he was stupid, but so that he never let his guard down. Starscream also paid the Combaticons to guard him in the event that he was pursued by the DJD. While the DJD would cut through the Combaticons like butter (since they could not combine into Bruticus at this point) it would still make Tarn plan more carefully, since he actually cares for his troops.
I get what Roberts was going for with Tarn's true identity, but I really feel like the idea of him being a "nobody" would have been much stronger if he had literally been someone we'd never seen before...
Be honest: How often did you think of Glitch outside of his appearances in the past? Action Master Glitch is as much as a _nobody_ as you could get in G1 Transformers!
@@evanbao93 You can actually see him in the background of a lot of scenes where it's red herring-ing Roller, and there's enough clues to indicate where his motives come from. I would have liked to see some more concrete events following the reveal but say la vey.
You need information, what do you do, torture them? Pshhh, nah, just bring the DJD, they'll know what to do. But seriously, sweet solus Prime! These guys are insane!
And that's why megs ended up slaughtering them. My only doubt it's if in the IDW comics megatron stayed as an autobot or returned to the leadership of the decepticons
Torture doesn't work for information gathering. It's purely a tool for inflicting pain and fear. ...Which is exactly why all five of these torture experts are in the DJD. They're there to keep the Decepticons terrified.
@@krysc3278 okay but why? Basic they did a discriminatory/sexist/ect thing is all I need to know, but currently I'm wondering what the band kiss did to transformers to cause this kind of reaction.
Be fair. The only one to show back up was Tarn himself, the one with a Cybertronian tank mode. And like Chris said, he had his rough edges filed off of his backstory.
The Wreckers already have two teams as there arch-nemesis. The Mayhem Attack Squadron and Squadron X. I think it would be more interesting to see them against the Power Master. The group from the Zone franchise, not the people who need engines.
I mean, the DJD isn't a war battalion though. They're like Tarn said, internal administration. They're basically the equivalent of the KGB from the old Soviet Union
Jonathan Delgado what’s worse is that it’s characters that ultimately don’t contribute much to the overall plot. Cliffjumper just barely edging it out because of the memorable moment of his brutal death and being the first Terrorcon. Tailgate literally just a repainted corpse of Cliffjumper and Seaspray we don’t even get to see him, just his ship blowing up.
Never heard of these guys until your tweet announcement so while I was very excited and still am to see a wholly new TF concept after finishing this...good lord this group is horrifying. And Im very amused at how it shows how varied the TF franchise is. On one extreme you have the likes of Rescue Bots and Aligned RiD. In the middle you got the likes of G1, the Bumblebee movie and Beast Wars. Then on the other extreme you have the 1986 movie, Overlord, and the DJD.
Mastermind Creations and Iron Factory made DJD figures that DO transform. The Iron Factory DJD even combine Megazord-style into a larger but miscoloured version of Tarn...
Shattered Glass Tarn or what happened to Functionist Universe Damus/Glitch after he found out about Prowl and the GC subjecting Megs to a kangaroo court? You decide!
Yes, but they didnt got mentioned cause they are 3rd party toys. Flame Toys are allowed to do Transformers figures so they are a licensed company, but they are not allowed to transform
@@ChrisMcFeely the “playing music to hind the screams of his victims” part reminds me about something from real life but I can’t put my finger on it (and no I don’t mean that scene in the good the bad and the ugly)
probably the most upsetting aspect about the DJD im my opinion is that... WE DIDN'T GET ANY TF GENERATIONS/ PRIME WARS FIGURES BASED AROUND ANY OF THEM. RIP :-(
One thing I feel IDW missed out on, was to do spotlights on the other DJD members or maybe 5 issues (inc: Tarn) one shots of them one by one. I felt the other main 4 members: Vos Kaon, Tesaurus and helix didnt have much page time in the mtmte comics apart from Tarn and nickel. A missed opportunity to develop their characters imo.
I gotta admit, Tarn making the jump to cartoons in Cyberverse was unexpected for me, but it is great to know that they can be featured outside of comics. I'm gonna add the DJD to my Transformers fanfiction, serving as a Decepticon guard under Shockwave and Scorponok.
Agreed!! Even though the two really had nothing in common with one another other than their name and Appearance, it was Great to See Tarn Make his first official animated appearance. Hopefully will get some more IDW characters next like Blackwall or Prya Magna.
Who's afraid of the DJD? Me, I am very afraid of them Still waiting for Tarn to get an action figure. Then again since Siege is doing Cybertronian alt modes maybe... great video as always Chris, must've been nice to have a shorter history for a change
MMC also released Helex a couple of months ago. They have made perfect renditions of all of these characters. I am more interested in the Wreckers and they have released several of these but there are still a lot they haven't done.
I think if the wreckers could get toy appearances, we could also get some djd toys. At least I hope we could. They did an Overlord fully knowing what he's like in the comics! C'mon at least give us Nickel, you cowards!
With the Wreckers (except for Impactor), and Overlord, they were toys first and the ideas came later. Not so with DJD. That said, Nickel totally needs to be a toy so I can slowly put together the Scavengers (do an episode on them!)
@@g0ldenant I'd say that out of the rest of the team, Vos (the rifle guy), and nickel are the most likely to get figures, kaon being the least likely (because he turns into an electric chair.), I still want all of the team, but i doubt Hasbro will make the rest of them, and if Hasbro does, they'd have to change some of the alt-modes Kaon in particular, or do that and then make it where you can get em' into a "command chair" or something along those lines.
I'd see the DJD more likely to appear in the War For Cybertron Netflix series, probably later down the line, especially since it's geared towards an older audience.
I have an idea for how the D.J.D could become toys in some future toy line- Tarn- Tarn would be a lot like Megatron to an extent. He’d have his dual fusion cannon and his creepy Symbol Mask, but nothing really big. He’d transform into his tank mode, as per normal, and would be a leader class. Kaon: Kaon wouldn’t be that big a change either. He’d transform into his normal Electric Chair, and would have Lightning effects, and a Sparkeater as an accessory. He’d be a Voyager class. Helex: Now, this is where things get a bit interesting. He would be a leader class transformer, and he’d be able to fit Legends class into his smelting pool, which would be able to light up. He’d transform into what he normally does and all his arms would be articulated. Tesarus: He’d be a Leader Class as well, with the same function as Helex. He’d have to articulative arms to grab Legends class and bring them into his chest, which could spin using a special switch. Vos: Alrighty, Vos is where the entirety of this comes together. He’d be a Deluxe class, seeing as he turns into a sniper rifle. His face wouldn’t be removable, at least with out some... editing... however it definitely would work! If anyone wants to know what I’d think of Nickel, she’d be a Legends class, so she could fit in Tesarus’ chest. Anyways, there ya go!
Justice Division vs Wreckers is a different topic of their rivalry. Each individual justice is different throughout by their ideals. Deathzaras, Overlord, Tarn and others are awesome villians.
Even as someone who considers themselves to be a big nerd on Transformers I had no idea these guys existed until my friend told me about them like last week.
I’m so glad the DJD got the Basics treatment! I honestly have never read any of the comics they’re featured in but bought the Mastermind Creations figures on their amazing designs alone. So it was wonderful to get a nice, organized look at their history! Lovely stuff!
You are the reason I got into transformers again and i want to thank you for the joy you have given me over the past couple of years Ps stay awesome Grognak
In the Beast Wars Uprising Universe Punch infiltrated the DJD as Counterpunch. It is unknown what his codename was. However we do know that there was a statue of Counterpunch in Helex that that has been replaced with the words "Helex, Never Forget" suggesting that he was found out.
The Autobots in the Lost Light universe kinda have their own counterpart - Star Saber, the Dark Evangelist. Also, Tarn has one major appearance in cartoons - as the main villain of perhaps the very finale of Transformers: Cyberverse. Eh, he has appeared before that, but as a mere supporting character labeled The Perfect Decepticon (there were many Decepticons who looked like him).
Turns into an electric chair? I really want some toys of these guys now. Though, I have a suspicion that first party ones aren't going to happen any time soon.
I think Vos would be the easiest to tone down enough to where they could make a toy out of him. They did it with Megatron, who originally turned into a gun, and with Sixshot, and thus, Quickswitch and Greatshot, so as far as I see it, nothing wrong with doing the same with Vos.
Obviously, they are EVERYWHERE (TV, video games and comics), so a basics episode on either of them will be very, VERY long. I'm sure we'll get there eventually.
Because we're "legacy" named transformers which means our names are everywhere and can never be replaced by a new character for instance ironhide was a legacy character back then but lately he hasn't been a legacy character since RID01 until Michel bay touched the franchise to bring it back to life ironhide came back as a legacy character with his personality from g1 there's already a vid Chris made about this the basics on transformers characters
Basics on The Scavengers. A mixture of legacy and original characters thrown together, reminded me of the random colle tion of characters I had as toys back when, one of the best things to come out of lost light
Great and informative episode. I’ve been hearing about the DJD for years from folks who love the newer comics series. I tried to get into it when it started, but I just couldn’t get into it. Your episode have a great insight into who these characters are. I now have a much better understanding of what they are, and why a lot of fans like them! I always watch your videos every Saturday. Thanks so much for all that you do for the fandom!
Some updates with Tarn is that he is getting a Voyager Class Retail figure in 2023 as part of the Legacy Evolution toyline, and he ended up appearing in a Cyberverse Bumblebbee special episode last year
You know what I never understood about people being pissed about Tarn revealing to be Glitch when they wanted it to be Roller? Tarn has the ability to cause machinery and robots to malfunction and shut down, which indicated he was an Outlier since he had a power that didn’t correspond with his alt mode. Roller was never an Outlier nor could he have become one like Tailgate ended up being. So how could Tarn be somebody who never had such a power?
![The Dark Side of Transformers: Tarn and the Decepticon Justice Division [Video Essay]](/img/n.gif)
If you'd like to learn more about the DJD, here's a quick checklist of "More than Meets the Eye" (MTMTE!) issues to read, all available individually or in trade paperbacks on Comixology!
MTMTE #7-8 - the DJD are introduced and battle the Scavengers! (collected in MTMTE Vol 2)
MTMTE #31-33 - the DJD's first encounter with the Lost Light! (collected in MTMTE Vol 6)
MTMTE #39 - Tarn leans of Megatron's change of heart in this all-DJD spotlight issue! (collected in MTMTE vol 8)
MTMTE #50-55 - The big finale, the DJD versus Megatron! (collected in MTMTE vol 10)
Dude, you are awesome.
"but in the world of transformers stranger things have happened"remembers reading kiss players transformers for the first time...
So wheres thundercracker
Yes. In the world of the Transformers, stranger things have happened. So I am hoping to see the DJD in a toy line. Hire's how I see there classes in figures.
Legends class: Nickel. Agent 113, renamed, Spike Fox.
Delux class: Kaon. Vos.
Voager class: Tarn.
Leader class: Tesarur. Helex.
Can we please get the basics on silver bolt
I would love to see a Shattered Glass version of the DJD, maybe have them be anger management counselors or psychiatrists. You could even have Kaon turn into a comfy couch.
i like that concept
interesting point of view!! :D
Ohhhh, yes! I've always wanted to see the DJD and Wreckers fight (not sure if they ever did, I'm behind on the comics) but Shattered Glass DJD and Wreckers would be the best.
-Tarn's music boosts his allies and raises morale
-Kaon turns into a couch, and can release energy that calms people down
-Helex has an oven that he cooks cookies in and he likes to headpat people
-Tesarus has a Time Out Box on his torso, that does nothing, just works as a time off.
-Vos is an artistic individual, prefering subjects drawing how they feel and transforms into an electronic artistic set, a drawing pad basically
-the Pet is a mistreated beast mode autobot that they are treating well and trying to fix his T-Cog
-Nickel is basically the same, but much more grumpy, hiding her care for them.
@@High-LordHarza yep
Kaon was constructed cold (meaning a Spark was extracted from the Matrix and placed into a pre-constructed body). Therefore, whoever was in charge of building the bodies thought to themselves “what if an electric chair was sentient?”
I think about this comment frequently
Someone decided to make a sentient torture device. I wonder who would think that would be a good idea. Alternatively he was constructed cold but was reformatted out of his own wish.
You may now live in my brain with the rent of free.
It's possible he was overhauled like Tarn. It would actually make a great deal of sense considering their use of codenames.
I totally needed this now I gotta add it to my list of things I will never forget
The DJD in a nutshell: A group of psychologically broken Decepticons who kill everyone in the most sadistic and brutal way possible.. (RIP Trailcutter...).
Still can't believe Kaon's alt-mode is literally a Electric Chair.
Reflectors a camera and bayverse wheelies is an RC monster truck
Thats *_SHOCKING_*
Thomas Alfa Edison approves this
also would like to remind everyone he has a doggo which e pretty much died for
Kaon
Kaoff
DJD - violent kid unfriendly Transformers
Bayverse Optimus: hold my beer.
Vos: "Wear my-"
Optimus: "GIVE ME YOUR FACE_
I mean seriously, they made an Optimus fige with hooks for hands based off a scene of him ripping a Con's face apart!
DJD would torture bayverse prime.
Kyle Dawson No, the opposite. Bayverse Prime could have been a damn Decepticon. Also, managed to kill off Megatron... about... I can’t even count. At least once per movie, not counting the times Prime beat Megs to an inch of his life.
Bayformers Prime, wasn't a good Optimus Prime.
If he was Sentinel Prime, there would be no complaints here.
I liked Tarn's personality in the comics. Although he was brutal, he had charm and charisma, even if beneath it all, was filled with thoughts of insecurity and doubt.
Ikr
Dude, He hunted down, and killed ravage! A dude who rips your cat in half is not charming at all!
"I wear it so that when I allow the others to have their way with you -- When I give them free rein to indulge themselves - No one notices when I close my eyes."
@@kaistzar2831 Bayverse Bumblebee was a pest
@@undyne7808 The thing is, Tarn's actions are what you hate him for. He's definitely got charm, but whenever it lets up and he destroys everything you cared about, that's when you remember "Oh right, he's an asshole."
not gonna lie i'm pretty surprised at how decent Tarn was portrayed in Cyberverse
I actually liked him
Definitely
Me too. I really hope that version of the character returns in future TV shows.
@@haydenreviewscustomcombos it would be cool but it actually happening wouldn’t be extremely rare because bro got obliterated
@@OOM-7385 well, also if a new version of the character were to appear, it could take inspiration from the Cyberverse version.
''The DJD are decidedly not kid-friendly characters.''
*Literally every single Cybertronian in the live-action universe* : ''Hold our Michael Bay.''
Tbf, the WAY the DJD conduct themselves is probably a little too much, even for some of those Michael Bay movies. But it's something I can see Bay definitely doing lol
A quote from the Kaon Prison in the War for Cybertron game:
Autobot: Spare me this mockery of justice!
Decepticon: Who said anything about justice?~
That's also from the 1986 TF movie too I believe.
@@MyRYNOrunsHot yup
MyRYNOrunsHot not the “who said anything about justice” part.
Poetry
I like how Tarn is what would happen if Onslaught went off the deep end.
Also if Beast Wars can get away with Tarantulas being a cannibal, Rampage being a serial killer, as well as Arachnid from Prime, you never know.
It's not like The Transformers are humans. As long its robots and not flesh, no one would bat an eye
@@Ecl1ps0_ a Serial Cannibal.
Remember: To Be a Cannibal is to be 1 That Eats Their Own Kind otherwise you're Just a Predator
Rampage was basically Hanibal Lecter in robot form
@@sebastiancalvey1226 Tarantulas was moments away from eating Cheetor in like the 3rd episode of BW.
As for rampage he had *quite* the reputation, to the point that the Axalons main mission aside from exploration was disposing of him on an uninhabited planet
(The Axalon was the Maximal ship/ base for the first 2 seasons of BW)
I think it is time for the Basics on The Scavengers.
yes yes yes
Yes
Yes
Yes Yes Yes Yes (now I have more than Zucchinna)
Hell yeeeeah
I still refuse to reffer to D.J.D as anything other than Megatron's unintentional harem
I don't blame them, especially with that ro-botox treatment he got recently.
WHA-
You realize that knees are a privilege not a right you know :)
“Whose job is to root out and kill traitors and transgressors.”
So, they’re basically meant to scare Starscream.
Not when he's cosmically empowered.
More like KILL him.
Sacred Terrador he was actually in the list
But they were taken offline by a cosmicly empowered star scream
I'm suprised that they never bothered to go after Starscream
0:39 “traitors and transgressors” I’m surprised that they haven’t killed or encountered Starscream.
Starscream was on there, but the DJD like to go in order. The only times that they did not were Overlord & Megatron because they outright stopped being Decepticons and were insanely powerful. Additionally Megatron liked keeping Starscream around, not because he was stupid, but so that he never let his guard down. Starscream also paid the Combaticons to guard him in the event that he was pursued by the DJD. While the DJD would cut through the Combaticons like butter (since they could not combine into Bruticus at this point) it would still make Tarn plan more carefully, since he actually cares for his troops.
@@samuelrichards1288 no he f****** does not care about his troops he literally just ripped off the head of one
The DJD is such a brilliant idea, and so well executed. I hope we see them again in the future.
Megatron an Autobot... lmao
I know! I'm actually sad that thay didn't used the concept for Transformers Prime
We're getting a figure of tarn in 2023.
"and so well executed". underrated comment lmao
@@returnedtomonkey8886 it's an amazing figure
I get what Roberts was going for with Tarn's true identity, but I really feel like the idea of him being a "nobody" would have been much stronger if he had literally been someone we'd never seen before...
Be honest: How often did you think of Glitch outside of his appearances in the past? Action Master Glitch is as much as a _nobody_ as you could get in G1 Transformers!
@@danielbrant6740 ...Glitch/Tarn has nothing to do with the Action Master partner.
You'll need an early bird cameo to ensure that the character didn't came out of nowhere. That's the balancing act of storytelling...
@@evanbao93 You can actually see him in the background of a lot of scenes where it's red herring-ing Roller, and there's enough clues to indicate where his motives come from. I would have liked to see some more concrete events following the reveal but say la vey.
@@MyRYNOrunsHot you mean where it was hinting Roller and them retconned it to be someone else
You need information, what do you do, torture them? Pshhh, nah, just bring the DJD, they'll know what to do. But seriously, sweet solus Prime! These guys are insane!
And that's why megs ended up slaughtering them. My only doubt it's if in the IDW comics megatron stayed as an autobot or returned to the leadership of the decepticons
Torture doesn't work for information gathering. It's purely a tool for inflicting pain and fear.
...Which is exactly why all five of these torture experts are in the DJD. They're there to keep the Decepticons terrified.
Oh. My. Goodness.
I am shaken.
This. Is why Transformers endures.
That was juicy.
7:21 "Stranger things have happened"
I'm looking at you kiss players
Kiss players wouldn't be so bad if they took out the kissing part
And the whole ejection method *shudders*
NEVER talk about kiss players, they deserve to be forgotten for eternity
@@krysc3278 okay but why? Basic they did a discriminatory/sexist/ect thing is all I need to know, but currently I'm wondering what the band kiss did to transformers to cause this kind of reaction.
@@shadowsnake5133 I know this comment is old but do i need to explain what Kiss players are or have you already figured it out after all this time?
"The DJD are not kid-friendly characters."
*Laughs in Airachnid, Beast Machines Megatron and Shockwave*
They're really not comparable to the Decepticon Justice Division.
Airachnid is the closest I would compare to them. and even then she's not as savage and depraved as they can be.
Which shockwave, the marvel one?
Still think the DJD are far far FAR worse.
Foc soundwave: Soundwave superior djd inferior
“The DJD are decidedly not kid friendly charecters so them appearing in future transformers cartoons is unlikely”
Cyberverse: *cough*
Who else is overjoyed about Tarn being in Cyberverse? I never expected him in show like that, yet they made him work extremely well!!
"so then show up in kids cartoons or toy lines seems unlikely "
That didn't age well
Be fair. The only one to show back up was Tarn himself, the one with a Cybertronian tank mode. And like Chris said, he had his rough edges filed off of his backstory.
DJD vs Wreckers what would've happened if both teams faced off
A slaughter. who would be slaughtered? I don't know, probably the wreckers.
The Wreckers already have two teams as there arch-nemesis. The Mayhem Attack Squadron and Squadron X. I think it would be more interesting to see them against the Power Master. The group from the Zone franchise, not the people who need engines.
Springer vs tarn 2K19
I mean, the DJD isn't a war battalion though. They're like Tarn said, internal administration. They're basically the equivalent of the KGB from the old Soviet Union
The slaughter of both teams.
Tarn’s official toy: can’t transform
Tarn: Am I a joke to you?
i didn't even realize how ironic that is
Am I the only one who thinks Kurtwood Smith would make a great voice for Tarn? I get big Clarence Boddicker vibes from him.
Sir auvelierto martinez!!! que haces aqui?
Sir? Hahahahah
S i r? Que hace usted aqui?
I think Keith David would be perfect for Tarn
@@WhyTho525 You're not the only one. So do the writers.
So nice of you to bump up the request of Tarn to the whole team!
PS: Basics on Starscream or Deathsaurus?
@@BasedVegeta Yo, Dank Blitzwing. It has been a while.
Coronation Starscream? This is bad comedy
I believe starscream is one of the 3 characters he refuses to do even for patrons. Likely for having way too much info to go over
@@BasedVegeta I mean, he's not forced to if he doesn't wanna do it.
@@DominatorLegend Who is the real starscream? You?
Tarn: "Nobody cared who I was untill I put on the mask..."
I feel like if any transformers show could do them justice without toning them down too much, Transformers Prime would've be the one
True, but even the stuff in TFP is nothing compared to the comics o.o
What about putting it on adult swim?
Robotic Operating Buddy MTMTE on Toonami would have been the fuckin tits
I would agree but Prime only killed off like three good guys. If the DJD showed up the best they’d get is a short torture scene.
Jonathan Delgado what’s worse is that it’s characters that ultimately don’t contribute much to the overall plot. Cliffjumper just barely edging it out because of the memorable moment of his brutal death and being the first Terrorcon. Tailgate literally just a repainted corpse of Cliffjumper and Seaspray we don’t even get to see him, just his ship blowing up.
Thanks to Transformers Cyberverse, they could market Tarn as "Perfect Decepticon"
Well, it happened! Tarn has appeared on TV in Cyberverse as one of Megatron X’s Perfect Decepticons who developed a personality of his own.
I like that Kaon transforms into AN ELECTRIC CHAIR, not a car, not a plane, not even a gun, BUT AN ELECTRIC CHAIR
Never heard of these guys until your tweet announcement so while I was very excited and still am to see a wholly new TF concept after finishing this...good lord this group is horrifying.
And Im very amused at how it shows how varied the TF franchise is. On one extreme you have the likes of Rescue Bots and Aligned RiD. In the middle you got the likes of G1, the Bumblebee movie and Beast Wars. Then on the other extreme you have the 1986 movie, Overlord, and the DJD.
Mastermind Creations and Iron Factory made DJD figures that DO transform. The Iron Factory DJD even combine Megazord-style into a larger but miscoloured version of Tarn...
That sounds awesome
Shattered Glass Tarn or what happened to Functionist Universe Damus/Glitch after he found out about Prowl and the GC subjecting Megs to a kangaroo court? You decide!
Broken Deity that head also comes in black with their Megatron figure.
Yes, but they didnt got mentioned cause they are 3rd party toys. Flame Toys are allowed to do Transformers figures so they are a licensed company, but they are not allowed to transform
Yeah, this UA-cam series is about official content, not IP-infringing content.
Guys we did it.
After so many years, The legendary DJD commander finally got the official mainline toy.
What a fantastic episode! Thank you so much Chris for doing such an amazing job! I can't wait to show this to all my friends and family!
Thank YOU for your support, Jarod, I'm glad you enjoyed!
@@ChrisMcFeely the “playing music to hind the screams of his victims” part reminds me about something from real life but I can’t put my finger on it (and no I don’t mean that scene in the good the bad and the ugly)
Some of my favorite characters despite their crimes against my happiness.
probably the most upsetting aspect about the DJD im my opinion is that...
WE DIDN'T GET ANY TF GENERATIONS/ PRIME WARS FIGURES BASED AROUND ANY OF THEM. RIP :-(
Nickel quickly became one of my favorite characters, even without the DJD, I would love to see her in other media.
One of the defining groups of IDW Transformers. Tarn himself would make a great villain (ideally voiced by Keith David).
No, tarn needs the voice actor of Slade from Teen Titans
@@gman4736 Will Arnett or Ron Perlman?
@@twistedgaming9185 Ron perlman
One thing I feel IDW missed out on, was to do spotlights on the other DJD members or maybe 5 issues (inc: Tarn) one shots of them one by one. I felt the other main 4 members: Vos Kaon, Tesaurus and helix didnt have much page time in the mtmte comics apart from Tarn and nickel. A missed opportunity to develop their characters imo.
Some robots who share appearance with Tarn have appeared at the end of the most recent episode of Cyberverse season 3.
This year this guys is getting a new toy I’m very excited for that😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
I gotta admit, Tarn making the jump to cartoons in Cyberverse was unexpected for me, but it is great to know that they can be featured outside of comics.
I'm gonna add the DJD to my Transformers fanfiction, serving as a Decepticon guard under Shockwave and Scorponok.
Going back to this, Tarn did a surprise comeback for the series finale of Transformers Cyberverse. First time seeing him in a media which is nice.
Agreed!! Even though the two really had nothing in common with one another other than their name and Appearance, it was Great to See Tarn Make his first official animated appearance. Hopefully will get some more IDW characters next like Blackwall or Prya Magna.
Yeah that was cool
I loved how their introductory comic issue was titled "Who's afraid of the DJD" scans perfectly to "Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf" kid's song.
Lol, of course Tarn gets destroyed by Grimlock
Chris: the DJD are not going to appear in kid friendly media
Cyberverse Tarn: Are you sure about that?
Freaking love these guys. They’re just terrifying and as Decepticon as it gets
Who's afraid of the DJD? Me, I am very afraid of them
Still waiting for Tarn to get an action figure. Then again since Siege is doing Cybertronian alt modes maybe... great video as always Chris, must've been nice to have a shorter history for a change
Mastermind Creations have figures for Tarn, Vos, and Kaon.
@@thenameless_gamer5955 True, I might get them once I have more money
@The Nameless_Gamer They also have a 2-pack of Nickel and the Pet coming out soon. There's a preorder on TFsource right now.
MMC also released Helex a couple of months ago. They have made perfect renditions of all of these characters.
I am more interested in the Wreckers and they have released several of these but there are still a lot they haven't done.
Tarn has to be the best new character in the last ten years . Hands down . Great vid
Yep
mm not sure, I do like Prime Knockout (and I really didn't like Prime)but yeah a version of Tarn has to show up somewhere eventually
@@Biorythym Prime Dreadwing gets an Honorable mention due to Tony Todds outstanding voice work
Megatron vs the DJD was one of the most satisfying moments in the mtmte comic
Pois é
Trailcutter was avenged in the funniest way possible.
Honestly it killed the idw comics for me. It seems it only became worse after that.
Truth be told, if they ever decide to give the DJD a starring role in an animated or live-action feature, I'd be more than happy to voice Tarn.
DJD would fit in just fine with the bayverse transformers.
@@sean.a.s7234 Sadly, he gonna die before he even speaks
Prime (to Tarn and Vos): GIVE ME YOUR FACE!
@@Jamie_Dodger97 Vos: YOU CAN HAVE MINE!
023 Studios Thank you.
3 years later tarn gets an offical hasbro figure. And it is insane looking. Its almost perfect
I think if the wreckers could get toy appearances, we could also get some djd toys. At least I hope we could. They did an Overlord fully knowing what he's like in the comics! C'mon at least give us Nickel, you cowards!
With the Wreckers (except for Impactor), and Overlord, they were toys first and the ideas came later. Not so with DJD.
That said, Nickel totally needs to be a toy so I can slowly put together the Scavengers (do an episode on them!)
Not just Overlord, Getaway's Titans Return toy's head is based on his IDW design
Nickel would make a good Battle master in Siege, actually!
@@Jamie_Dodger97 I miss the days of Generations when just about every design was IDW inspired.
Look up Djd toys or nickel transformer toy I've seen it for sale
Crazy how when this video was posted I was convinced we’d never get a mainline DJD figure but I’m actually holding Tarn. Hats off, Hasbro.
same! hopefully we get the rest of the djd soon
@@g0ldenant I'd say that out of the rest of the team, Vos (the rifle guy), and nickel are the most likely to get figures, kaon being the least likely (because he turns into an electric chair.), I still want all of the team, but i doubt Hasbro will make the rest of them, and if Hasbro does, they'd have to change some of the alt-modes Kaon in particular, or do that and then make it where you can get em' into a "command chair" or something along those lines.
I agree. Just got him today, and he's a good, solid figure with a neat transformation too. I've only transformed him once and I love him already.
Same
I always wandered who was that Decepticon face robot! Tarn and the DJD...wow. Thanks a lot! :)
I'd see the DJD more likely to appear in the War For Cybertron Netflix series, probably later down the line, especially since it's geared towards an older audience.
DJD song: 🎶let the bodies hit the ground🎶
I believe the lyrics are, "let the bodies hit the floor."
Sorry, I can't remember the band.
@@iamtheomnimonkey Drowning Pool, and you're right
A Transformable TARN would be AWSOME!
MMC did a great one.
We're getting one in Legacy next year
Basics on the horrorcons?
(Apeface and snapdragon)
shortest video ever?
Great job. Only thing that'd make me happier is a BASICS on the Scavengers.
Helex could get a toy where he is so big you can put other normal sized Transformer Toys inside his smelting chamber which can light up.
Anybody else watching after today’s Hasbro Pulse Transformers panel?
Yep. I honestly knew next to nothing about Tarn.
I have an idea for how the D.J.D could become toys in some future toy line-
Tarn- Tarn would be a lot like Megatron to an extent. He’d have his dual fusion cannon and his creepy Symbol Mask, but nothing really big. He’d transform into his tank mode, as per normal, and would be a leader class.
Kaon: Kaon wouldn’t be that big a change either. He’d transform into his normal Electric Chair, and would have Lightning effects, and a Sparkeater as an accessory. He’d be a Voyager class.
Helex: Now, this is where things get a bit interesting. He would be a leader class transformer, and he’d be able to fit Legends class into his smelting pool, which would be able to light up. He’d transform into what he normally does and all his arms would be articulated.
Tesarus: He’d be a Leader Class as well, with the same function as Helex. He’d have to articulative arms to grab Legends class and bring them into his chest, which could spin using a special switch.
Vos: Alrighty, Vos is where the entirety of this comes together. He’d be a Deluxe class, seeing as he turns into a sniper rifle. His face wouldn’t be removable, at least with out some... editing... however it definitely would work!
If anyone wants to know what I’d think of Nickel, she’d be a Legends class, so she could fit in Tesarus’ chest. Anyways, there ya go!
I'm glad Tarn made an appearance in Cyberverse. I hope the rest of the DJD makes a debut soon.
Justice Division vs Wreckers is a different topic of their rivalry. Each individual justice is different throughout by their ideals. Deathzaras, Overlord, Tarn and others are awesome villians.
Awesome! I always wanted to know about the DJD...I haven't collected all of MTMTE yet.
lol, this spoils what happens to them, but I hope you enjoy the journey with them regardless :D it's a fun ride the whole way through
I read pirated comics. I am broke.
Even as someone who considers themselves to be a big nerd on Transformers I had no idea these guys existed until my friend told me about them like last week.
I’m so glad the DJD got the Basics treatment! I honestly have never read any of the comics they’re featured in but bought the Mastermind Creations figures on their amazing designs alone. So it was wonderful to get a nice, organized look at their history! Lovely stuff!
You are the reason I got into transformers again and i want to thank you for the joy you have given me over the past couple of years
Ps stay awesome
Grognak
R rated movie following this team
I don't think robot gore is R rating worthy.
Jormy Gormy then you’ve never read last stand/sins of the wreckers
@@Mrcool-wg9lp I haven't. Shovkwave's lab with the gutted and hanging bots was "gorey" too but I wouldn't consider it R rated.
Yeah I see what you mean
@@Jormyyy understandable
Rewatching after the Tarn reveal!!!
In the Beast Wars Uprising Universe Punch infiltrated the DJD as Counterpunch. It is unknown what his codename was. However we do know that there was a statue of Counterpunch in Helex that that has been replaced with the words "Helex, Never Forget" suggesting that he was found out.
The Autobots in the Lost Light universe kinda have their own counterpart - Star Saber, the Dark Evangelist.
Also, Tarn has one major appearance in cartoons - as the main villain of perhaps the very finale of Transformers: Cyberverse. Eh, he has appeared before that, but as a mere supporting character labeled The Perfect Decepticon (there were many Decepticons who looked like him).
Helex: derrete o bot
Tarn: voz da morte
Kaon: cadeira elétrica
Vos: Rifle
Tesarus: torso com lâminas
Turns into an electric chair? I really want some toys of these guys now. Though, I have a suspicion that first party ones aren't going to happen any time soon.
Mastemind Creations: Hold my beer.
Iron Factory: No, you hold my beer.
I would be extremely surprised if Hasbro releases an IDW accurate Kaon.
I think Vos would be the easiest to tone down enough to where they could make a toy out of him.
They did it with Megatron, who originally turned into a gun, and with Sixshot, and thus, Quickswitch and Greatshot, so as far as I see it, nothing wrong with doing the same with Vos.
Now we’re getting a figure 😈
Imagine transforming into an electric chair…. ‘Decepticons! Retreat!’
Amp/Kaon: astrotrain, carry my imobile ass
Straight Beast!!! These are some wonderful additions to the Transformers lore!!!
Coming back to this after Tarn got announced for the Transformers Legacy toyline is such a trip.
As far as comic accurate toys go, third party figures may be the best bet
Its wild to see how Tarn has appeared in Cyberverse (at least his design) and then is getting a toy in 2023
I just noticed something
you never made the basics of Megatron and Optimus
Obviously, they are EVERYWHERE (TV, video games and comics), so a basics episode on either of them will be very, VERY long. I'm sure we'll get there eventually.
A two parter would be necessary for them IMO. Maybe save Optimus for Episodes 99 and 100 of the Basics.
@@twistedgaming9185 then why not do The Basics on specific incarnations of both of them
Because we're "legacy" named transformers which means our names are everywhere and can never be replaced by a new character for instance ironhide was a legacy character back then but lately he hasn't been a legacy character since RID01 until Michel bay touched the franchise to bring it back to life ironhide came back as a legacy character with his personality from g1 there's already a vid Chris made about this the basics on transformers characters
which one(s)? be easier to a video of each in each seperate continuity
Basics on The Scavengers. A mixture of legacy and original characters thrown together, reminded me of the random colle tion of characters I had as toys back when, one of the best things to come out of lost light
Thanks! I bought the Flame Toys Tarn but didnt really know anything about him. Your videos are really informative and fun to watch
Imagine our surprise when Tarn of all bots showed up in Cyberverse.
Great and informative episode. I’ve been hearing about the DJD for years from folks who love the newer comics series. I tried to get into it when it started, but I just couldn’t get into it. Your episode have a great insight into who these characters are. I now have a much better understanding of what they are, and why a lot of fans like them! I always watch your videos every Saturday. Thanks so much for all that you do for the fandom!
Some updates with Tarn is that he is getting a Voyager Class Retail figure in 2023 as part of the Legacy Evolution toyline, and he ended up appearing in a Cyberverse Bumblebbee special episode last year
You know what I never understood about people being pissed about Tarn revealing to be Glitch when they wanted it to be Roller?
Tarn has the ability to cause machinery and robots to malfunction and shut down, which indicated he was an Outlier since he had a power that didn’t correspond with his alt mode. Roller was never an Outlier nor could he have become one like Tailgate ended up being. So how could Tarn be somebody who never had such a power?
I love the look of tarn! Awesome character, can’t wait for the next video.
Great episode. I'd love to see your take on the Scavengers as well.
This is easily the best episode youve ever made. This idea is so so interesting!
7:14 them not showing in toys...
Transformer Legacy toyline Tarn: hold my beer
I honestly think Tarn was a great final villain for Cyberverse
Thanks for the video! I have seen that DJD leader before with that model kit but I couldn't find his name so I thought he was fanmade!
Lo and behold, Transformers Cyberverse added the "family friendly" Tarn into the casting 😂🤣
I guess you could say they were taken out by a cosmically powered Megatron.
GODDAMMIT
Lame