The 7 Best Solar Batteries in 2024
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
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In this video, we will look at the 7 best solar batteries in 2024. We have spent many hours looking at each brand very closely and will provide you with an in-depth expert review of each.
When shopping for a solar battery it’s really important that you consider the price you are willing to pay. Home energy solutions aren't cheap and purchasing one may actually lower your return on investment when buying solar panels for your home.
Use our solar calculator to see if a solar battery is actually worth it for your home. You can also see the economics of just purchasing solar panels such as your costs and return on investment.
The solar calculator we have built is a really cool tool and it requires no personal information, so check it out.
Batteries we will explore in today's video:
(Canadian Solar EP Cube)
(Generac PWRcell)
(Tesla Powerwall)
(Sonnen Core Battery)
(Enphase IQ)
(SolarEdge Energy Bank)
(Panasonic Evervolt)
These are premium brands and some are also well-known in the solar panel and inverter industry. It is important to learn about solar batteries as they could be the future of solar power if net metering is eliminated.
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro
01:51 - Solar Calculator
02:21 - Canadian Solar EP Cube
03:39 - Panasonic Evervolt
07:15 - SolarEdge Energy Bank
08:58 - Enphase IQ
11:03 - Sonnen Core Battery
15:00 - Generac PWRcell
19:05 - Tesla Powerwall
22:12 - Outro
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Thank you for sharing the solar calculator! It's always helpful to have tools that can optimize our energy consumption. In terms of solar batteries, have you checked out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It offers massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets. It's a great option for outdoor enthusiasts like us!
This panel can put out close to 100 watts ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.
From a service technicians point of view you should take generac off this list. Our company installs 7 different manufacturers and Generac is by far the worst from a service perspective. Unfortunately very unreliable. We went as far as discontinuing selling their product. Pink Energy went bankrupt selling their product because of service with Snap RS and also their own bad business practices. Just a disclaimer to any future battery owners.
Forreal lol
Thanks for the tip. Which ones do you like?
I have 2 powerwall 2’s it was simple to sign up, had good correspondence and install was done expertly. Had one small issue and that was due to incoming voltage fluctuation but a change in software fixed that issue That’s been 3 years now and they have not given me any problems. I recent went from a 6.6kw solar system to a 13.3 Kw system using maxeon 5’s with the inbuilt IQ7 microinverters. Last year we had a net export of1500kw/hr for the year where the year before new panels went in we had a import of 2600kw/hrs for the year. One thing I have worked out that the battery calculators fail to negotiate is you need 1 x 13.5kw battery per person per day to negate any imports, even during winter. So this year we hope to install another Tesla 2 and utilise off grid mode we will trial off grid and if we don’t import anything we will consider going off grid forever. Good bye meter and energy costs.
What you have is a lot of disposable income 😂
@@chrismccannIRL I rather not give my money to A) government B) energy retailers. These bastards know they have you by the balls. The whole energy scam is just that a scam. When you import for 40c/Kw but only receive 6c for solar export, but they then sell it for 40c I see that as BS. The fairer was would be to have import vs export. The export should offset the import via Kw/hrs not dollars and cents. You have invested in the electricity generation equipment so why shouldn’t you be able to sell at the market rate. Also looking at purchasing 2 EV cars that could also be used as a battery support if needed , but these will be charged from solar (which obviously is most cost effective way to charge) meaning don’t have to buy power to run a car anymore. But I’m sure in the future all EV cars will have a meter on them ,so they can be screwed over by charging from your own solar .
Great video & massive improvement from your first videos, they run a lot smoother and you have improved your talking & presenting skills a lot, well done man👏🏻
Always interesting thankyou, not many power outage here in UK obviously everyone has different needs/requirements/budgets , went with alpha for the simple expandable neat system and no complaints after a year
Always learn from you. Appreciate your positive attitude.
Thanks Irish
Well done; thank you. It will be interesting to look into warranty information. Seems like warranties are getting up into the 25-year range on many solar power components. . .
Wow, this Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series sounds like an incredible piece of outdoor gear! With its massive capacity, fast recharging, and waterproof technology, it seems perfect for camping and ensuring uninterrupted power supply. Plus, the Smart APP control feature is a great bonus. Thanks for sharing this recommendation!
Great review!
A comprehensive review with honest, real-world critique along with practical and informative insights. Good job guys. 5*
Thanks Philip
Amazing thank you 🙏
ITP renewables sponsored a home battery testing centre in Canberra, Australia that included Sonnen, Panasonic, LG Chem (strangely missing off this list), Tesla, BYD and a bunch of other manufacturers. Of the batteries they tested in 3 phases (accelerated testing) they had issues with all of them including the Tesla Powerwall 1 and 2, Sonnen and others. Only two batteries performed close to spec with no faults - the best was the Sony Fortelion and next was the Pylontech. The sony was both fault free and showed low degradation while the Pylontech was fault free and looked on track for 70% capacity after 10 years of continuous daily cycling (10% - zero). I'm not sure if you can still buy Sony Fortelion outside of Europe and Japan and they weren't cheap. The point is making a reliable home battery that's plug'n'play isn't easy.
Installed a Solar Edge 10KWh battery and inverter. So far so good.
Good to hear Alastair
What about smaller systems like the Anker SOLIX F3800 with transfer switch home integration? I think they have one that integrates with the roof solar panels but also the option of just directly plugging it into the transfer switch which would be beneficial for short term power back up. They also have the capability to add an expansion battery.
I agree with your high praise for Generac and their ability to provide on the ground local service. That seems important. I also like the integration of the gas generators with a battery system. I have a portable propane/gasoline generator and a transfer switch. It’s loud and a hassle to go outside and get it going in bad weather (which is when the power goes out). I mainly would like a system that is automatic (comes on immediately when the power goes out), quiet, and can provide enough power to get by for 6-12 hours which around here is the typical power outage. A Generac gas generator might be enough, but is a bit loud. Solar, I’m not so sure. I have an Anker 2000w battery with portable panels, but that can’t power the entire house through the transfer switch. Seems $$$$ on any other solution than I have now. Seems there are so many variations on how to do this.
having 2 batteries of 12volt each 200amp.
which option will give more backup time.
options : connecting both in parallel to get 12v 400 amp.
Option-2 : connecting both in series to get 24volt and 200 amp..
Thank you so much.
You're welcome! Happy to help.
We went with a Homegrid Stack'ed with currently 24kWh worth of modules. Homegrid is owned by Lithion who is now owned by Valence Technologies. So it's not as much of a "big name" company like Panasonic or Generic or someone, but we decided to go with it anyway because it integrates so nicely with the Sol-Ark inverter that we went with. So far I'm really happy with the Homegrid. And we're planning to max it out this year to 38.4kWh. We live out in the country and power outages are common here. The expandability and large capacity was a big selling point for us.
Same here, went with Homegrid with 4 stacks, Sol ark 15k and 28 450watt panels. I am loving it!
Hi Cheddar
Good to hear things are going well with your energy storage system. I will take a look at this solution next year
@@SolarReviews cool! Our power has been out a couple days and our system is doing great!
We went with a Homegrid Stack'ed with currently 24kWh worth of modules. Homegrid is owned by Lithion who is now owned by Valence Technologies. So it's not as much of a "big name" company like Panasonic or Generic or someone, but we decided to go with it anyway because it integrates so nicely with the Sol-Ark inverter that we went with. So far I'm really happy with the Homegrid. And we're planning to max it out this year to 38.4kWh. We live out in the country and power outages are common here. The expandability and large capacity was a big selling point for us.
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Can the enphase IQ 10 batteries be added on to my older generation 1.2kw ×5 enphase batteries ?
Yes Nic
I’m glad you’re back!!!!
More videos are coming!
Thanks Brandon
Is the Tesla Power Plan not a big reason to go powerwall?
Apart from Tesla all these producers listed are new to me (Canadian are PV providers). I have 2x5=10 kw of storage from Dyness. TCO was cheap as chips: under 2700 Euros. Tesla is overrated and too expensive and proprietary. I have a cheap string inverter, and because of non proprietary all in one solution (i.e. not an all in one like Tesla) i was easily able to upgrade my batteries. How you gonna do that with a Tesla? u would have to buy another power wall and over a barrel with what they provide. I specifically opted for a componentized approach to design in order not to be tied in (pun intended) to an all in one solution that forces you to get locked in. Which leaves me to say thank you for the video it was very informative.
Doing panels this year and batteries next year. Am waiting for the Tesla Power Wall 3 before I buy. Made in the USA was a big factor.
I’m pretty sure the Tesla Powerwall 316 Pier Ave battery only which means that it’ll be much more difficult to add on later. You’ll likely need an AC coupled option if you’re adding batteries after the fact.
one of the things most don't seem to consider when it comes to battery, is run time in power outage, and super important is, when it's most likely going to be cloudy too, such as after a severe storm and power maybe be out for more than few hours. and, weather you want aircon to run too.
and all this is then tied in with DOD (depth of discharge) the more cycles (full discharge and then charge) the shorter the lifespan of your battery, if you're doing a full cycle every single day... eek.
thus I'd start looking at minimum 20kwh battery, regardless of your usage, this will give you at least some buffer for both cloud cover, not doing a full cycle every night and a bugger for longer power outage (and time to hook up a generator possibly)
personally I'd also go with an inverter that has self islanding and energising features, so you can user power during day light even if battery is exhausted.
I would like to go with all Australian made components if possible.
I like No 3 for this race. It loves a soft track and its mother was a mudder.
I am off grid and currently have 40kwh of lead acid storage. To convert to these systems shown I would lose 27kwh of storage. Eventually I will go with a scalable system. maybe LiFePo with 40 to 60kwh
And at $500 per kilowatt hour you're going to spend some serious cash!
Good video. Absolutely terrible information organisation. The tips are gold. Put them in one place. Have set criteria so we can more easily compare the 7 different statistics between the different systems
I didn't know a Tesla Powerwall could only output 7kW peak power. The average price in the UK is £15,000. I installed a 92kW lead-acid battery bank for £3600. Running it at between 100 - 70% capacity gives me 30kW of usable energy. I'm hoping running it like that I get at least five years use out of it......possibly more. I can output up to 15kW out of it if needed. It handles my 9.5kW shower fine. Each battery is only outputting 10A at 48V to achieve 15kW output. How can these lithium batteries be touted as superior to this kind of setup?
How big (size wise) is your system? And how heavy is it? How many times can it be cycled?
@@roryl It is 2 tonne in weight (each battery is 56kg, there are 32 batteries), it is within a custom-made cabinet measuring 800mm x 1200mm x 2800mm tall, sited in the corner of my garage. It's lead-acid, maybe good for 250 cycles @ 50% DOD, hence the reason for trying to keep it between 100-70% discharge. What counts as a 'cycle'? Is it going beyond a certain point? Is it the number of times a battery is returned to 100%? I know that current statements on lithium batteries say longevity is achieved by running them between 80-20%, but who really knows? My Nissan Leaf battery (I've just bought the car) is down to about 50% (6 bars). Is this because it has been fast charged a lot? Who knows? Here's the battery specs of the lead-acid:
www.plymouthbattery.co.uk/type/marine/varta-marine/lfd230-varta
The EG4 batteries are also stackable up to 16 batteries for a total of 81.92kwh!
What on earth is a 92KW lead acid battery? Get your units straight otherwise you are speaking gobbledygook. The energy storage or capacity of a battery bank is expressed in kilowatt-hours not kilowatts!
@@boblatkey7160 You knew what I meant didn't you? kWh or kW when expressing a store of power is pretty self-evident. I notice your channel has no other videos or references. So how many installs have you done?
For 50kW which batteries will be best to use in an industrial site… on grid
I would probably consider the Sonnen as it stacks nicely up to 60 kW from memory but most of the solutions on the list would work fine
@@SolarReviews 60 kW or 60 kWh? Please, learn the difference! YOU are the educator YOU have the responsibility to use the correct units of measurement!
You can add Suness Lithium battery, discount and 5 years warranty
Generac is a service nightmare, we have had nothing but problems with the ones we’ve installed. Go with Enphase or Franklin, very few issues. Tesla is meh and service takes forever. Lithium Phosphate is the way to go.
@2:23 he states "no sense in getting a battery any bigger than the number of panels because you will never charge it all the way any how"
I'm sorry I would disagree for many reasons. First it does not matter if the battery is too big except for the cost. Even a small array can charge a large battery and it is possible that during the day you can accumulate more energy than you use charging the battery. To full capacity over time. Having extra capacity allows the battery to absorb peak solar energy with less degradation in real time. The worst scenario is having more peak solar power than the battery can absorb.
I'd walk past all 7 of those to get to the BYD section.
Strangely enough I actually have a BYD battery bank and Victron battery inverter at my farm but these are not widely available in America and most Americans want an all in one solution. This is the only reason I did not list it as a top solution but I agree it is something to watch.
@@SolarReviewsha, I thought this was an Aussie site as you are clearly an ocker. I was wondering why no BYD (as a Tesla owner, I just installed the 19kWh BYD LFP (with 15kW Fronius 3 phase inverters) as there were no powerwalls available at the time of order )
However, I now prefer the BYD choice. Reasons: cheaper per kWh, very modular to upgrade size yourself, DC coupled, LFP will last longer, 8kW input/output continuous even irrespective of SOC (surprising)
Downside - not a Tesla so Fronius software monitoring/control not as good
Alles in allem sind die SAJ-Produkte großartig
Verpassen Sie es nicht! 10 % RABATT: Solar ESS von SAJenergy
LG Home 8 will be a winner soon!
I have had great luck with LG products.
@@mrjon75 Me too. Never had any issues with LG.
Are these batteries can store energy harnessed from wind turbines?
No, Chris
@@SolarReviews, Thank You for the Response.
Di negara anda sepertinya cahaya mataharinya lebih terang... tentu perolehan energi matahari sangat maksimal. Begitukah?
What about chinese batteries felicity srne byd there good especially stackable ones
No. It’s being able to use all that power during the day. I mean, at night is important, but if you have 10kw on your roof, and cannot use it during the day during an outage, when you need that AC the most…. A small battery gives you that with grid disconnection.
When compared to the overall cost of a home, then the ever rising cost of electricity and piped natural gas or refilling a propane tank several times a year, solar panels are the smart financial move. If you have someone install them, it’ll take you five to eight years to pay them off; three years faster if you install them yourself. Battery storage has been much more expensive. The price needs to drop to a third of what Tesla is currently charging for its Powerwalls before they become widely adopted. And if batteries become cheap enough, homeowners will be able to cut the cable to the expensive utility monopolies and go off grid.
I’m guessing you’re a time traveller! 😂 the year summed up and we’re not even 2 months in to 2023! 😅
haha
To be safe today use ON LY LFP batteries to be safer!
Bummer. I was looking for FranklinWH review.
13:18 it’s ES SOLAR
Tesla is great but you can't turn it ON...lol.. or wait time is 2-3 years , ridiculous !!
I agree this has been an issue in the past but I don't think wait times are that long now. I own an installation company in Australia and we are getting them quickly
@@SolarReviews Tesla products are great, but their monopoly $$, control and production is not.. Getting any Tesla products is a hassle and long wait time. I heard, people had solar roofs installed sitting there for months and years wait time to turn ON..complete nonsense and waste of $$..
Monopoly? With what? This video exemplifies you can’t be discussing batteries…
Most people are using signature solar lifopo4 batteries.
Noway I will buy a proprietary 400v lithium IOn battery (every term is bad). Also power optimiser are not useful with any recent solar panel (with release diodes), this has been proven numerous time, Just an argument to ask higher price, not to say a scam...
The best solar batteries are Enphase.
Thanks for the tip, respondents of our Solar Industry Survey agree: www.solarreviews.com/content/images/blog/2022-SolarReviews-Solar-Industry-Survey-Results.pdf
@@SolarReviews
The survey is biased.
Enphase is the best.
The fact that you don't mention alpha ess, huawei or sungrows batteries astonish me and is kinda suspicious.
Forget solar a gasoline inverter generator is your best bet
nickel iron batteries didn't make the list? I like mine
How can you leave solid, AFFORDABLE batteries from the likes of SOK, EG4, Jakiper, Trophy off this list?!?!?!? Credibility, gone in a puff.
Hi Steve. These batteries were considered but they did not meet the criteria. This video was primarily geared toward complete energy storage systems.
I'm sorry, but how could I take seriously a video where the presenter does not even use the proper expressions? KilowattHOURS is a very different thing than kilowatts. Especially regarding batteries where both kW and kWh are key metrics, both basis of a choice for one's needs!
I know it is more difficult to convert in ones mind but I wish more would express the energy storage in Joules and power in Watts to avoid this type of confusion. For those interested 1kWh = 3.6 MJ
@@christopherumpton3975 That's a rather neat idea! But unfortunately, you are right, it needs some mental gymnastics.
These are just all the big corporate manufacturers with prices 3 to 4 times higher than they should be.
7 Best Solar batteries???Is this a review?
oh.. I thought it was some aussie review lol.. nah just some aussie bloke.
your missing the best one the self made battery without al the money you spend for this kind of promoted ......
Huge waste of money. Actual useable Watts. About 240 ! Real life usage. What would you want to leave on for 7 hrs? A 500W heater. This Bluetti will not power it but for 1.75 hrs tops. What about a TV for 6hrs? Refrigerator? Hmmm? Then you must recharge it. Waste of money.
Look at it this way.
Nobody's talking about this low Watt available over the long haul for the nite or day.
240W ÷ 7 hrs = 34 W useable per hr before it's empty.
Nobody's talking about this talking point.
STOP with the hands.
Do you mean KILOWATT-HOUR instead of 'kilowatt' ???? Battery CAPACITY is NOT measured in kilowatts ! WAKE UP and use the correct words !
It was killing me too.
we deliberately avoided chinese panels and inverter in our system ten plus years ago in a feedback to grid system using norwegian panels and german inverter, the 9kw system paid itself off with feedback tariff after seven years with no bills for our use we produced much more than we used per annum by far. these systems are different and more for blackout coverage but china was a definite no due to different issues then but today dont buy anything chinese they are our enemy for years so dont buy their gear sorry.
Tesla customer service is pathetic. Avoid at all costs.
May the person that decided the background music was awesome be fired immediately.
There is no such a thing as a “good battery “ ….. batteries are an ecological nightmare ! Period !
What's your solution, buddy? Cause I hate to break it to you, but the alternative to renewables+batteries hasn't been stellar ecologically either.
Please do your homework. Check into new battery recycling for auto and utility grade batteries. 95% of minerals in batteries can be recycled into new batteries
@@dudlydoright11 unless they catch fire in the junkyard first.
I don't believe you! No Chinese company!
He speaks like an Australian.