At the end of the video when Dr Asim says that al- Ghazali says most of the truth in philosophy (like that of the greeks) was from their Sufis, ancient prophets or the divine dispensation that they received, doesn't that disconnect it from being a reasoned conclusion? And if so, how can we scrutinize those claims? It seems the way to somewhat scrutinize claims of divine dispensation would be to simply compare it to the Quran and Sunnah. I guess I would just like proof for divine dispensation to others nations - we don't exactly have isnaads for those things - and why we should accept them as having an independent shar3i weight. Sure, you can say that they agree with the Quran and Sunnah, so they are right, but that is not independent weight, that is only being affirmed due to the fact that the Quran and Sunnah have it as well. I hope that makes sense. I guess in that case I find the idea of divine dispensation apart from Quran and Sunnah to be practically non-essential.
In regards to Al Ghazali's The Incoherence of the Philosophers, a century following Averroes (Ibn Rushd) drafted a lengthy rebuttal of al-Ghazali's Incoherence entitled The Incoherence of the Incoherence; however, the epistemological course of Islamic thought had already been set. It explains why science emerged out of the Judeo-Christian world, leaving Islam in the Dark Ages.
Pretty historically inaccurate. In fact, the entire idea of the so called Islamic Golden Age, how long it lasted and how it came to an end with Ghazali is false. Many scientific advances, as well as advances in engineering, construction and seafaring carried on in the Muslim world till around the 16th century. It wasn't until the 17th century which the Europeans, following the enlightenment, overtook the Muslim world but by that time, modern science, medicine and mathematics among other things had already been invented and perpetuated by Muslims.
one mistake here because plato was on the right path as he believed in one god and a higher being but aristotle didn't and was in kufr. I think the shaykh got it wrong way round in terms of who of the Greeks was on a some sort of straight path.
You're correct. Plato was a monotheist. As were neoplatonists. Which is why they influenced Islamic philosophy so much. Aristotle would be a panentheist at best. He didn't criticize Plato. He criticized straw men. That part of Politics was really poorly written. Since Plato is the only real proof that Socrates even existed, I would say Plato is the only great philosopher.
@@mirzabaig4711 islamic philosophers actually didn't get to read about Plato and were only introduced to greek philosophy through Aristotle. Perhaps this was the reason why some of the Islamic philosophers were stuck at the thought of life after death such as ibn sina and ibn rush. This also led to their refutation from Imam Ghazali (RA).
@@RRC905 that's really interesting. I've never heard that. Does that mean the platonic influence in ibn Sina came from Plotinus and others like him? That's sad. Plato's Republic had a whole book on life after death.
@@mirzabaig4711 yep ibn sina and rest only read Aristotle. Aristotle was first to be translated to arabic. Even the Jews used the Arabic version. This then became popular in the islamic world of andalucia
Everyone is Chad until iman al ghazali writes a book on the basics and teachings of it
The best comment that fits my degree of knowledge. Nice statement
At the end of the video when Dr Asim says that al- Ghazali says most of the truth in philosophy (like that of the greeks) was from their Sufis, ancient prophets or the divine dispensation that they received, doesn't that disconnect it from being a reasoned conclusion? And if so, how can we scrutinize those claims? It seems the way to somewhat scrutinize claims of divine dispensation would be to simply compare it to the Quran and Sunnah.
I guess I would just like proof for divine dispensation to others nations - we don't exactly have isnaads for those things - and why we should accept them as having an independent shar3i weight. Sure, you can say that they agree with the Quran and Sunnah, so they are right, but that is not independent weight, that is only being affirmed due to the fact that the Quran and Sunnah have it as well. I hope that makes sense. I guess in that case I find the idea of divine dispensation apart from Quran and Sunnah to be practically non-essential.
Amazing Masha Allah
In regards to Al Ghazali's The Incoherence of the Philosophers, a century following Averroes (Ibn Rushd) drafted a lengthy rebuttal of al-Ghazali's Incoherence entitled The Incoherence of the Incoherence; however, the epistemological course of Islamic thought had already been set. It explains why science emerged out of the Judeo-Christian world, leaving Islam in the Dark Ages.
Kinda clueless comment.
Wrong. Typical oriental misunderstanding. Mongol invasion stopped the muslim world development.
@@makeitseventoday his follower destroy books though
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Pretty historically inaccurate. In fact, the entire idea of the so called Islamic Golden Age, how long it lasted and how it came to an end with Ghazali is false. Many scientific advances, as well as advances in engineering, construction and seafaring carried on in the Muslim world till around the 16th century. It wasn't until the 17th century which the Europeans, following the enlightenment, overtook the Muslim world but by that time, modern science, medicine and mathematics among other things had already been invented and perpetuated by Muslims.
Jazak allah
has he go any books on the prophet salawatu allah aalaih and sira of al khoulafa al arbaa?
also plato wasn't translated into arabic only aristotle was and was again in disbelief therefore he needed to be refuted by ghazali.
Plato refuted Socrates. Aristotle refused Plato. Al Ghazali refuted Aristotle
one mistake here because plato was on the right path as he believed in one god and a higher being but aristotle didn't and was in kufr. I think the shaykh got it wrong way round in terms of who of the Greeks was on a some sort of straight path.
You're correct. Plato was a monotheist. As were neoplatonists. Which is why they influenced Islamic philosophy so much.
Aristotle would be a panentheist at best. He didn't criticize Plato. He criticized straw men. That part of Politics was really poorly written.
Since Plato is the only real proof that Socrates even existed, I would say Plato is the only great philosopher.
@@mirzabaig4711 islamic philosophers actually didn't get to read about Plato and were only introduced to greek philosophy through Aristotle. Perhaps this was the reason why some of the Islamic philosophers were stuck at the thought of life after death such as ibn sina and ibn rush. This also led to their refutation from Imam Ghazali (RA).
@@RRC905 that's really interesting. I've never heard that. Does that mean the platonic influence in ibn Sina came from Plotinus and others like him? That's sad. Plato's Republic had a whole book on life after death.
@@mirzabaig4711 yep ibn sina and rest only read Aristotle. Aristotle was first to be translated to arabic. Even the Jews used the Arabic version. This then became popular in the islamic world of andalucia
it defeats logoc to say shafi is best school of thought
No school of thought is the best all
Are acceptable