BM786 Firmware Update Test
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- Testing if the factory/dealer firmware updating on the Brymen BM786 multimeter works.
The firrware is NOT user upgradable.
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FAQ:
1) Why do this video? - Some people haved asked me to show if the factory programmer works, and this was my first time trying it, so I just switched on the camera. That's what I always do.
2) Why doesn't Brymen allow users to update the firmware? - I don't know, you'll have to ask them. It's not like I haven't asked for that possibility (the answer was no, sorry). This is no different to virtualy every other manufacturer with a reprogrammable chip and an internal factory header. Just because the brymen header is more accesible doesn't make it any different.
3) What does this video demonstrate? - It demonstrates that Brymens new 780 series can be factory and dealer upgraded via a pin header instead of an OTP chip traditionally used, or internal factory test pads. This is a GOOD step forward, as it allows dealers to ensure that shipped meters have the latest firmware if it ever gets updated.
4) I'm pissed off that I can't upgrade the firmware myself, this is digusting! - Almost every meter on the market works like this, from practically every manufacturer. If you think your meter doesn't then you are wrong. Firmware occasionally gets changed, and if you buy a new meter now then it may have different firmware to one you bought last year. You are just often not aware of this. Again, giving the dealers the ability to do this is a step forward from most meters on the market and existing Brymen products.
5) Why do you offer this meter for sale knowing this? - See 4) above. This is actually BETTER than my previously extremely popular BM235 which nobody got upset at that they couldn't upgrade the firmware. If you want a more open meter then try my 121GW, it's got a schematic, user firmware update, programming information, open protocol, and source code for the application software.
Thanks for the whole explanation and those on your blog cause I went there for the very first time for whatever reason cause I had not seen that before, all the amphour stuff and even older blog entries.
I guess you might have linked to it more than once but I had missed that for years I guess.
Firmware update is always a kind of emergency tool to get things right that had been overlooked.
And it is also a question of effort and gains cause check how long it takes to update your phone, raspberry, windows and even cars and what you will get out of it.
I recently had stopped all of them and have started my own schedule of "1 maintenance day" each quarter instead of constant update pressure. I might miss some features - but just for a maximum of 90 days and by avaerage 45 days, but I also recogniced that this one is faster than permanent wheel of updates and upgrades cause there are some that get 3 updates or more in 90 days. Of cause a software update is not the same as a firmware update of smarthome components, the car, a raspberry pi and other tools, but at the end it is roughly the same: effort versus gain
Right to repair etc... Just because everyone else does the same does not make it right or even ok... Good it's moving in the right direction, but other models the firmware could be upgraded with the micro SD.
@@nikize AFAIK my 121GW is the only meter in the market with a microSD card slot for firmware upgrade.
Thanks for giving us a more complete written explanation. I'm glad the header's there and accessible. If consumers were to find an edge case where there was an issue with the units that could be solved by way of a new firmware, they could release the information for those affected (doubtful such a case would be found). That would be cheaper for Brymen. And for those who really wants to mess around with firmware flashing, that can always be figured out in one way or another. So stop it, please.
In defence of EEV and Brymen. Crack open most electronics and your find a programming port or access to the lines via pads. Don't mean your fridge manufacturer is going to show you know to do it just because it's there.
How to get something reverse engineered: show people it’s possible but don’t tell them how.
My thoughts exactly!
Spot on!
"I'm on NDA". "Won't show it". "it's *possible* but wont show it". "there, it works, it's definetely *p-o-s-s-i-b-l-e*".
This sounds so much like an invitation to have a go at hacking the stuff :P
I agree - that’s like old custom chips from vintage arcade games circa 1985 onwards - they die but their regular TTL glue logic keeps working so we reverse engineer their chips - they hate it but tough shit, we want to keep old stuff working. Same challenge.
And the color code of the wire was in the shot.
@@wobblysauce NDA VIOLATION. WIRE COLOR REVEALED. Legal team will go crazy!
He knows his audience.
I don't see much point in hacking a multimeter. Without the firmware, you'd have to write your own from scratch, which may not be worthwhile for a multimeter (depends on if you like a challenge I guess). Anyway, probably uses one of these chips (no real surprise that one by the same manufacturer is used in the 121GW): www.hycontek.com/en/products-en/3286
so by this itme next week it will be running doom and we'll have a tutorial somewhere on youtube
You should know that not showing something make people try even harder to find it out... :D Just saying :D
It's like when Dave laughs at chinese products, that have markings grind off of chips. haha
@@worroSfOretsevraH or they are Potted and he's trying to get the potting material out hahaha! Not sure if he has but others have tried! 😂😂 Always fun to watch! I think about it when potting components sometimes - you know, how pissed someone's going to be lol! - when the markings are painted over and you're all trying to use a fingernail polish remover diluted to get layer by layer off haha
Imagine the PR boost if Brymen makes firmware updates available online and sell the programmer to end customers. They can start by letting their loyal customer EEVblog do it first...just an idea...
I don't think so. Letting end users fiddle with firmware would most likely be a tech support pain for zero benefit.
@@MrJef06 A bit like BIOS upgrades for motherboards, if everything works, no need, until you want support for something, or a bug fixed.
@@modrobert No. It is slightly different from BIOS. It actually a good thing to be able to do this in multimeter however at the end user own risk..
Hahaha.......wada tease all the techie guys out there Dave, this otta drive them all NUTS ! Glad now that I bought a 121.....
It would be more interesting to see a changelog for the firmware versions. :)
Posted on the eevblog forum.
@@EEVblog Really? Would have thought that the changelog was as secret as the rest. 😅 But ok, thanks.😊
Predicting a guess thread in the EEVblog forums in three, two, one. (I won't but some bloody donger will!) I'll definitely read it though. ;)
This is not new info, everyone has known from day 1 it's a programmer port and has flash firmware.
@@EEVblog2 ah must admit I'm not 100% up to date with it. I've fancied owning one for a while, if one of my current meters breaks and I can't fix it I promised myself I'd treat myself to one next.
But a guess the exact programmer thread and details would be amusing, just because an nda is a challenge to some folk and its all in good taste and lighthearted fun.
As an amusing aside a coffee house near me sells "freshly grounded coffee" according to their stupid typo on the sign.. in comic sans no less. I always wanted to get a cup of electronic engineers coffee, surely tastes better when it's freshly grounded! I'll upload a picture on the forums if I ever get around to creating an account. Busy busy!
Keep on, keeping on with the great stuff Dave!
From the old dart.
Its a Paduk 8-pin micro, I just know it.
🤣
Thanks for showing us what you cannot reveal or show us how to do. Aww crap, I just ordered one. I like the quality of the 121gw but a lot of companies don't permit a rating of less then cat 3 at 1kV.
Yes, the 121GW is not a very high CAT rated meter.
Hmmmm, this video may generate a raft of emails to Brymen asking for the latest firmware.........
Anyways, I like my BM786, better/faster than the 121GW for daily use.
It's been no secret the meter has a programming port, it's obvious when you take the battery cover off.
probably just standard JTAG!
What value does this reprogram ability have to the customers if we can't update the firmware and you are not offering this service?
It can ensure that you get the latest version from the supplier, they can update old stock.
@@EEVblog2 and what about those unlocky users who already bought from you? Do you or his Majesty Brymen will update the already sold ones, or at least agree to update free of charge if sent back to you? This is so unfair, in fact.
Will you be updating the meters as they are shipped to the latest versions or only if there is a major problem discovered with them?
I will update the meters I have if a new version comes out. Not possible if I've already shipped to Amazon or another supplier though.
@@EEVblog2 I sincerely don't understand Brymen for keeping this a top secret. Ridiculous.
I have to admit when I saw the title I thought you will update a BMW 7 series ;)
So "Theirs a newer better firmware but you cant have it" was the purpose of this video?
Some people have asked to see that it's possible, and it's the first time that I have tried it.
@@EEVblog2 right on
There's a decent amount of info here, here's to people figuring this out one day!
Why wouldn't Brymen want the user to be able to upgrade the firmware?
Don't know, you'd have to ask them.
Perhaps it has no way of recovering from a failed flash?
Probably off the shelf mcu w/o security which would make it easy to do counterfeits. Wonder if anyone imaged the die yet?!
To sell you a new product just because they fixed a bug in the firmware? Otherwise no reason to not let the user do a firmware upgrade of a device.
Another possibility is that you could upgrade by purchasing a low end model and flashing it with the firmware from a high end model.
Absolutely not good to not have the micro and/or the hex file. Had the issue with a blown EFM32 in a meter from uni-t.
Right to repair should force manufacturer to give the hex blob for programming.
100% agree!
From reading some of the comments here, I wonder what percentage of the viewers have actually worked in some kind of (electronics) industry.
As an ee I hate NDA's and closed firmware/ architectures BUT for DMM's and stuff used to determine risk factors allowing users to upgrade firmware is a hugely massively terrible idea...what if you Bork the meter but is has limited functionality and some one uses it to test a live connection and it doesn't indicate a voltage present and someone gets hurt or killed ...the legal throwback to the instrument manufacturer could be huge....not to mention someone got hurt which wouldn't have happened if the user hadn't tried to upgrade the firmware...yes I know we should all be using proving units but not many do in the field.
And yes DMM'S have been proved to be faulty straight from the manufacturer (fluke anyone) but at least the onus is definitely on the manufacturer to recall the product.
That is probably one of the reasons why Brymen (and almost every other manufacturer) won't let users update the firmware.
Coming from your logic, washing machine and microwave oven manufacturers should be sued each time someone decides to wash and then dry (if still alive) their domestic lovely cat/dog. Such situations are easily avoided by putting a disclaimer into the box, which states that MANUFACTURER DOESN'T HOLD ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR INAPPROPRIATE USER ACTIONS INCLUDING e.g. FIRMWARE UPGRADES. Yes, let user undertake the risks, if they decide to go for latest firmware. How come 121GW manufacturer is not afraid of lawful throwback, but Brymen pees in pants imagining thousand legal actions against them. C'mon, this sounds ridiculous.
@@atexnik under your logic using the Meter would also cause the manufacturer to be liable.
The risk in production is within the modification of a product not intended for use.
You can not sue a manufacturer for using something outside of is intended use.
A washer and microwave are its intended use. Unless it shorts and burns the house down or blows the front or melts your face while normal operation then its not able to be sued. Now if you take the door off it and bypass all safety (by Manufacturers instruction) and burn your face off then you could .
@@TboneLoyal so, updating the meter's firmware will turn it into a ballistic rocket or what?
@@atexnik What if you update the firmware and the meter was allowed to bypass the internal fuse and short you to live wires? I am not saying you could code such a firmware but bugs are imminent when patching. Would you like to update the firmware which in turns kills you?
Can we change (frameware) to uni-t multimeter
so if you buy a new one on amazon, does it come with updated firmware in it?
I just got one on Amazon yesterday, and it came with firmware version 07. I think that is the latest.
Dave: look what I can do and you can’t! :D :D :D
Does this also have anything to do with calibration? Where I work, all the "calibratable" tools - both electronic and mechanical tools like torque wrenches and test gauges have to be sent out for calibration. We have fluke meters, and even the "cheap" ones have calibration procedures and can be sealed.
What is the latest fw version now for BM786?
I just listened to the podcast episode 554 and I was interested in the discussion about the programming port on the multi meter. It is easy to sit on the fence with this one, but I was surprised you didn’t see the elephant in the room - that is - the safety and liability issue. As an electrician I would be reluctant to use a multi meter that had the potential to be hacked in any way. Also, I’m sure that any company that produces a branded product would not want too be held liable or even potentially damaging the brand for any accidents that occurred though the mis use of its product.
Purely off the top of my head, if I were to hazard a guess, and *this is **_only_** a guess* based on the number of wires, I would say that it is _probably_ some kind of UART interface with the handshaking/authentication being initiated by the programmer unit - but that's _only_ a guess, so don't @ me! 😋
I read this video as "please people, have a go fscking with the upgrading"
Does anyone know what changes are in firmware 78909 and 78910? Brymen 789.
Not knowing the physical size of the programmer, it would have been fun to stick it in a "black box" (a box painted black) so you could show meter a little easier... and have some fun with black boxes in the process!
6 pin header w/ 5 pin wires, with a SIL header, probably a PIC micro which is common in prosumer tech. Or maybe an STMxx. Dave was talking about how the meters are going to be hard to come by due to chip shortages and iirc it was the ARM based STM micros that are scarce as f--- which is breaking the auto market atm.
And yeah don't be so hard on Dave, he's under NDA, companies love bitch fucking us aussies for not sticking to NDA so full respect to him for taking the effort to provide SOME kind of content. Anyway, use your brain ya muppets, this is a challenge, a great little mind puzzle to ponder whilst in our dwellings.
looking at the wire colour coding, theres a ground (blk), positive (red), data, maybe serial? (yell grn) and probably a reset? (blue)
can store the program and 5 pin connection w/ reset, probably a PIC micro :)
The programming cable looks very familiar...
They write on the forums that a citizen from this channel puts Chinese chips in multimeters and sells them under the brand name "Bryman". Truth?
Mind me asking why is mcu such an important secret? Is there any particular reason or just 'how it's always done'
I don't know, ask Brymen.
Probably some algorithm that they have bought or licensed from a mathematician/ engineer. The same sh*t has been going on for decades when it comes to closed source GPU drivers.
And here the Streisand effect intensifies...
I wonder, if upgrading post-sale en masse isnt feasible, why not remove the pin header from the BOM and just leave exposed pads?
I would presume because it's easier for dealers and also at the factory.
Who is this Andy A. and what's he doing on top of you?
The real question of course is have the markings on the chip been rubbed off :). Got some clone Arduino nanos recently and many of them were missing the markings on the usb-serial converter, so apparently even CH340g's or similar are top secret nowadays :)
Or they're counterfeit or used chips.
The chips are Brymen branded.
@@EEVblog i wonder if they pay loyalties to OEM partners for rebranding their chips to Brymen.
Don't turn it on; take it apart.
not making the programmer or the firmware available to the end user of a Digital Multimeter is just plain stupid. I can tear the engine out of my Audi and replace any part I want, but I can't upgrade my multimeter? Firmware upgrades: motherboards, firewall routers, ethernet switches, flashlights....
Hey Dave, can you give an example of a gross bug you have encountered in these meters which would required the update? Also can be calibration done via this interface as well? Tnx
The long determination of resistance in auto mode is very annoying. For example, it shows first 9 kOhm, after a second 10 kOhm.
Bought one last night from the US. Can you be a good bloke and make sure it has the latest fw before you ship it? :)
I'm afraid he only check the ones that are stocked in Australia.
Multimeter just fluke 179
Only fluke😀😍☆☆☆☆☆☆☆FLUKE LOVED♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
One thing is for sure, it isn’t an ATmega328
Built-in S-D? Sounds like an MSP430 metrology job.
So, how do we idiots update our firmware?
I appreciate the information Dave. For the complainers, NDA means non disclosure agreement so you’ll have to figure it out yourself if you want to tinker with your MM. For Dave. You did an excellent job keeping within the limits of the NDA while informing us of the possibilities out there. Never considered reprogramming a MM before now. Cudos to you sir.
Now can it tell me what "3x+1" is ?!
Only nerds will understand! #Graph #GraphLife!
@AEON. Lol
@@AEON. Veritasium viewers will understand (and he has quite a few).
@@AEON. perhaps because it's not important? It's an oddity of math, so unless your degree was in mathematics, why would you learn it?
I bet Louis Rossman would hate this video.....
👍
I miss the 9Volt battery in the Brymen meters. A good Brymen LCR meter with 9v would also be nice to see.
I have bought a uni-t LCR meter with 9v.
Still looking for a new multimeter under 150 euro.
I don't like 9v batteries, they are expensive for the amount of energy they contain and almost always have crappy snap connectors that get loose with age, or the wire gets busted. Meters that work on a couple of AAs are by far the best solution IMO.
Even reflection on background TV screen can't review secret about programmer.. 😂
Actually, it is quite embarrassing for a company like Brymen to not let their customers update their expensive meters' firmwares to latest versions. So, if your brand new shiny Brymen meter appears to have a bug, you'll probably going to end up living with that, because no one gonna give you a new meter, nor your dealer is going to have your meter reprogrammed to the latest fw. This is so stupid nowadays. I was about to buy BM789, but I read they've modified the backlight timeout in latest fw. Tomorrow they'll find some critical bug and fix it, and so on. The rule here is to never rush buying newly released products, especially from such unscrupulous companies like Brymen. Wait a year or two, read the forums and only then lay down your hard earned money.
Lets start ba thread about reprograming. The NDA probably will allow it.
If it works it always a risk to change firmware ;)
Even with the explanation in the pinned comment, Dave taunts us by updating firmware that literally nobody else can do. So much for Dave's support of Right To Repair. If this was a Louis video, he'd be shitting all over this company.
Instead Dave showed us how to connect a 5 pin programming cable wich also has power so its 3 data pins... And he described the tool he is using that it has a button that is specifically labeled... he told us his tool is reflashable to hold the firmware... he showed us how to enter firmware flash mode and where the connector is. And all that under a NDA. As an electronics guy the above mentioned things are enough... No shitting required.
wish i could buy one of you Multimeter my old fluke 87 is dead and i cant even afford a 20$ chineasium one bought one a few years ago and they are juste crap in a plastic box , i like to repair amplifiers and need something that can check capacitors
Download the hex from the micro controller in the meter and compile and done!! USB !
Cool
Let the hacking begin!
DOOM update when?
If we can't have the programmer and update, this 'feature is completely useless for us.
We have ways to make you talk!
I don't get it, I understand the "right to repair" thing, but this doesn't stop you from buying the chip (pre-programmed) from Brymen to "repair" your device, if the device was shipped with firmware version A and it works out of the box and does everything it claims, then firmware version B is not going to make that much difference to you, if there was a bug fix or significant feature enhancement that didn't require a change of hardware then you'd contact Brymen direct, and if they saw merit in your request provide you with the means or place to take it to to provide the upgrade. Perhaps it was more convenient / cheaper to use flash than OTP, i've seen OTP more expensive on some MCU's than flash variants. Maybe i'm missing something but I don't understand the hate.
Does Bryman sell the chips? Do they provide a list of bugs to versions?
@@adamp1440 I don't know, does Brymen support RTR? But that isn't on Dave. And I doubt they do just like other manufacturers do not list what bugs they have fixed on OTP / undisclosed hardware, you just end up with the latest version if you buy new, if you have a bug then contact the manufacturer (doesn't need to be Brymen specific), if it is outside of the warranty period then you may be lucky. I have multimeters that are decades old, it might have bugs in it but I couldn't care less, it works absolutely fine for what I need it for, if it didn't then i'd just get a new one or if it was new enough return it.
@@awuk3468 They have every right (currently) to do this and it's their choice to do so. Doesn't mean people need to support it. And just because it works for you doesn't mean it's appropriate for all.
@@adamp1440 I am not saying you should support Brymen in their decision, I mean it is their product and their decision, don't like it, don't buy it, that is YOUR decision, just don't understand what is the issue, there are a ton of multimeters on the market that are closed source and unprogrammable, big deal, at least you know there is potential for this one to be upgraded without having to have a whole new meter, and potentially by a local partner, beats soldering OTP and recalibrating that's for sure.
I don't understand why not making firmware user upgradable. It's more expensive for the manufacturer the risk of possibly reclaiming thousands of products for a firmware bug than providing the user the tools to upgrade it. Also even if you don't have to recall the product, having the firmware user upgradable would let you start production even if the stable firmware is not ready, or if some features are still missing: the user when he receives the product can just upgrade it.
And I understand years ago, but these days there is no excuse. The only more complex thing is that you need to provide the user with a simpler way to upgrade the firmware, in particular not requiring a particular programmer, that is usually done via interfaces like bluetooth/Wi-Fi (that these days are very cheap) or via a standard TTL serial cable. Of course in both situations you have to have a bootloader and a double partition, but it should be the standard these days.
What the hell is going on in Australia!!!
programing it with a programmer like TNM5000 takes about 5 min
Show how to do that on your channel
Lots of angry comments, but the optimist in me is thinking you made this video to encourage people to do some reverse engineering work without violating your NDA!
Honestly, it’s either that or you’re being a bigg meany boi, which seems out of character
Or option three: Some people have asked to see if it works, I hadn't tried it before, so I just switched my camera on.
Pro tip: When you try and guess other people's intentions you will invariably come-a-gutsa.
@@EEVblog2, makes sense, I guess. It just seemed odd to tell your customers, “I can do this cool and potentially useful thing that you can’t and never will be able to.”
After reading comments that were unhappy with you, I tried to look at it from an entirely different and optimistic angle, failing to see that reality might be in the middle.
Either way, I might be pulling my reverse engineering hat out of storage in the near future.
@@pyromen321 If my customers don't understand that every meter on the market gets firmware updates from time to time like this, either (usually) at the factory, or in this case possibly at the dealer, then they do now. They are now more educated than they were before.
@@EEVblog2, yeah I created a false dichotomy in my head. Your pinned comment and explanations in the comments made your intentions clear
Makes no sense. Why include the feature, but then say you can't use it? It's one thing to use a OTP rom to save some money on production, but if you're going to spend whatever extra it is for the eeprom then why block the function? What kind of benefit could Brymen possibly be getting by blocking access to this?
At the end of the day I don't think there's going to be any real difference in what firmware you're using from an end user perspective. It's just the principle of the matter. Anyway, giving someone a lock and then telling them they can't have the key is a surefire way to guarantee your lock gets picked.
EVERY manufacturer does this. Brymens connector just happens to be accesible.
Hundreds of people are now REALLY wanting to get firmware updated... no matter what. This video might have been better not released.
After being on UA-cam for 12 years, there is one thing I'm perfectly capable of doing, and that's ignoring comments and emails.
Firmware update on a multimeter wtf....
...talk about over engineered devices!...SMH
......im joking... :)
EVERY meter on them arket gets firmware updates from time to time. The meter you bought now might have different firmware from the same one you bought last year, you just aren't aware of it.
@@EEVblog2 Even my Fluke from the 80ies? This isn't sarcasm, I'm just a noob.
@@mjaerkens Yes, definitely.
Bravo, mine is 78605
Bloody meter merchants and their damned no right to repair lol!
"The firrware is NOT user upgradable." Pretty unforgivable in this day and age. If updating the firmware of existing meters isn't worth it then why are they even bothering to alter it?
Then virtually every multimeter manufacturer is unforgiveable.
Subtle firmware changes happen over time to fix usually very obscure issues. EVERY manufacturer does this, you are just aware of it now with this video.
@@EEVblog So either early adopters have inferior products compared to later buyers of the firmware updates are completely pointless, if they're not significant enough to affect early adopters then what's the point of them. This is even more of a factor if they allow dealers to make updates, why isn't the latest firmware from the factory good enough? Why would the dealer need to update something that isn't considered a significant problem? If it's significant enough that a dealer is deemed to need to update it then the user should be able to update it. And yes I know "continuous product improvement" is a thing and usually mentioned in the small print but what that generally means is "we may optimise processes/materials to make this thing cheaper for us to make while still selling it to you at the same price" .That wouldn't normally affect firmware, firmware changes usually cost money, rarely save it (yes there are exceptions, a firmware change could remove the need for some physical parts so a net cost saving) so a company would only do them if considered really necessary.
In this thread - hundreds of people ask Dave for programmers and firmware files
So much for right to repair... Shame on you. Details and firmware should be public!
I have no control over this, it's not my design.
@@EEVblog2 You willingly chose to sell the meter through your own storefront though 🤷♂️
How would firmware help to repair a multimeter?
@@ASilentS I sold the BM235 for years before this and it doesn't have firmware upgrade nor schematics, nor anything open at all. And I can't see how a manufacturer factory firmware update has anything to do with right to repair. And if you actually cared to notice, I released the schematic, interface details, calibration information and procedure, and comms software source code for my 121GW meter.
@@EEVblog2 You said you had "no control". I was pointing out that you, in a small way, do. That is all.
Open source hw meter now !
This nda sucks. One cannot repair the meter. Bummer.
How uninteresting...
Welcome to the EEVblog2 channel, where the most uninteresting crap is uploaded.
NDA? well why show anyway then? LAME
Because some people asked. See my pinned comment.
I will have to advice you to stop shipping the meter to Norway then. Because you would be in a legal heap like no other if you don’t cover the cost of software updating a product if one should need it in the lifetime of a product - or provide the end user the means of doing it themselves. And that’s for 5 years for end users.
Nope. I don't have any legal presence in Norway, they can't make me do anything.
This is not true. Even if EEVblog was based in Norway he would only have to provide repair/replacement if the product is broken. There is no law in Norway that requires the manufacturer/distributor of a product to provide upgrades to a product that works as advertised.
@@apepost wrong Bjørn. :) there has been an lawsuit that was lost where an company demanded money to get an product fixed with an software update.
@@EEVblog2 as long as you sell a product in Norway or to an Norwegian citizen you are bound by Norwegian laws regulating sales to consumers and or companies. This was just meant as an friendly warning.
@@pederb82 if the meter works as advertised to the specs listed, there is no recourse for you to force them to give you updates. Also it isn't like you just download and run the update. You need a programer that cost more than the meter to install the update, and it's very very easy to get the programer settings wrong and brick the device.
Yawn
So your showing off what the meter is capable of, yet big middle finger to everyone because non of you can have it. Pointless video really 🤷🏼♂️
See my pinned comment.