I got one of these back in 2016 when i had cancer didnt feel like playing with till the mirning after my brother set it up for me and i watched from my hospital bed i still have the train today
My parents gave me this set a long time ago back in the early to mid 2000s in the old version. I will tell you this. Even though it is the same set as the old one, the engine looks so much better than the old one. The paint on the Niagara looks more cleaner and sharper and the details look more finer than the older version. The rolling stock looks more sharper and finer compared to the old ones. Also, the power supply is the modern one from Bachmann. The power supply that came with my old set had a black life-like style power supply. In conclusion, it is nice to see this set get updated to modern times. My only gripe with this set is that it is not DCC-ready.
This train set is such a long-runner, and I don't just mean the number of freight cars. Bachmann began making it in the mid-to-late 1980s, and originally it used a figure-8 track plan (with 90-degree crossing), and then when E-Z Track was introduced they switched to a large oval of that. Then the locomotive began to get better in quality (from a pancake motor to a decent 3-pole can motor with all-wheel drive) and the freight cars had body-mount knuckle couplers added.
there are three versions of this train set the one from 80's with the crappy axles and gears that shattered all the time, the version from the 2000's still with the splitting exles then there is the version from 2018 and up with the better exles and improvements, you could put the most recent wheels sets from the modern version into the older version.
@@1964catt Or you could get 3D-printed replacements for the gears and axle centers. In fact, you would _have_ to do that (assuming the split axles were even broken in the first place) because the modern wheelsets would short the split-chassis versions.
I've seen a few of your reviews on train sets. One thing I really appreciate is that you do a great job of showing us the product in great detail, without any commentary. You let us decide what's good or not good,, or what we like don't like about the product. Kudoos!
I had this set a long time ago, MAN this is probably the absolute best value train set and certainly best starter train set there ever was. 9 car train, powerful good locomotive, and plenty of track to start. If anyone wants to get into the hobby, THIS and the Empire Builder in N scale are THE SETS to get.
The UP did have 4-8-4s in the form of the FEFs, but to my knowledge Bachmann doesn’t have an FEF tooling in their HO range. So they used the Niagara tooling, and just replaced the tender
If you, by any chance, lose the logs on the Great Northern flat car, you can always buy some Slim Jim or Jack Link's Beef Sticks, cut them in thirds, and load 'em. 😆
Oh yes. I remember having this train set back in december 2005 and i loved it, especially how the steam locomotive looked. It was the best train set i've ever had. Unfortunately, it got wrecked by someone and it was no longer working and i was really fucking pissed off by that. However, 11 1/2 years later, i had another chance, i bought a new overland limited train set and it went pretty well even though there were some small issues with the steam locomotive. i was just happy that i got another chance with this train set since the one back then was destroyed. Now i get to play with it without any annoying problems in the way.
You can always fit in a Railroad or Railway as we say in the UK. Even a micro layout can be heaps of fun. I spent an enjoyable evening with my boys watching a train go round. Even my brother and one of his sons joined in. It's not easy but well worth it.
I wish, I wish I had my old train set back. Trains, depot, houses, trees, cars, a bridge, people, all sorts of HO scale town models, even working street lights. All by the age of 13. But then carefully packed it away. Then my older brother sneaked into my bedroom closest and stole it all for his 1st born. I was only 14. The youngest of 6. I put up a stink of course. He wound up giving me $200 for all of it. Today ? Maybe 3 or $4000. I know, forgive and forget. Well it seems difficult to do either. Enough said.
@@CovBert I think it's a good set to start with but I'd also look into the bachmann digital commander set. You get two engines that are dcc controlled for nearly the same price
If I ever get one of those things, the first thing I’d do would be to paint the engine into a New York Central paint scheme. Two of my closest friends both have the Niagaras from this set, and I’ve volunteered to help one of them repaint theirs into a proper NYC paint scheme.
Thats just a niagara but with no smokedeflectors and with union pacific tender Heres proof: Look at the smokebox it kinda looks like niagara if you look in the google, Tender of the challenger or 5511, Painted union pacific greyhound The creator actually didnt painted the loco, the factory did
I mean with nine wagons and a locomotive the size of Russia what do you expect. Plus the massive loop of track, I just wish more of the track had 1 or 2 points, enough for a inglenook shunting challenge.
man i would really love to get one. I really love trains and I had a toy train when I was child with lighta on it. Turning off my room light and watching it go around.
This set is jaw-dropping cool. I remember being so jealous of my friend that received similar sets (at a lower quality actually, but still) from their parents. Now I can afford something like this but I don't have the space in my 1/43 scale collection. So if in the past I used to admire these train sets at my friend's home, now I am doing the same, but on UA-cam 😅😅
I've noticed on every review at least 2 of the drivers wobble or are out of round, which in my experience causes things to go out of Guage or vibrate loose. Better Q.C. tooling seems to be an ongoing dilemma with Bachmann. The real high end stuff is better but I have a few of these and all have some minor fault here and there. As far as what you pay they perform more than adequately, and with minor care and adjustments should last a lifetime. Do not over oil , as this causes all your
Screws and rivets in you drive rods to loosen and fall off. Also excessive oil picks up dirt and grime and causes frequent track cleaning and bad electrical continuity.
Heres a tip. The smoke juice you get in these sets i feel is crap. So in my train I use omg nicotine grape flavored vape juice. Works well and way more smoke
Been wanting to get this set but the one thing stopping me is the locomotive for this set bachmann decided to be lazy and redressed their New York Central Niagra locomotive instead of putting in a union pacific design (like the fef northern) and having a union pacific Niagara wouldnt look right to me I hope that change the engine or even just tinker with the original Niagara design to make the model look more union pacific looking plus I dont think the U.P greyhound paint scheme fits it to well it would have been better off and more realistic if it was U.Ps black freight hauler scheme the rest of the set is fine.
Also don't use a DCC controller on that train cuz you're going to burn the motor right out of it it's meant for other diesel engines and steam trains that have sound quipped but I bet you can make that engine sound proof or you need a tsunami2 that's the motherboard to make it sound with all the bills and whistles and announcements and the steam
I'd like to say Bachmann did it to save on production costs by not having to spend extra on another HO scale 4-8-4 shell, and since these are going to first-time modelers, they figured that market wouldn't be too picky about accuracy.
If ya wanted to you could repaint the engine to nyc colors and the caboose repainted to nyc as well and have a nyc NIAGRA without smoke deflectors some did irl..but I’d feel better if they re did this set in nyc paint with a proper nyc centipede tender course you can find one but most of the NIAGRAs are dcc and would be unable to run with this engine properly I would just repaint this in nyc paint and make it a static display engine on a section of dead museum track
I got this set and the engines smoke box ruined the inside of the train and bachmann "couldn't help me" I still like bachmann but, be careful with what you get
mine is all show, no go. Most likely has the cracked gears that has plagued Botchmann... er... Bachmann since the seventies. I understand there are folks who 3D print replacement gears.
I got one of these back in 2016 when i had cancer didnt feel like playing with till the mirning after my brother set it up for me and i watched from my hospital bed i still have the train today
Woah! Hope you get better!
@@green_lettuce im good now i just got done with my seconed round with cancer but thanks
@@morgannolen8954 phew good to hear!
@@green_lettuce 👍
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My parents gave me this set a long time ago back in the early to mid 2000s in the old version. I will tell you this. Even though it is the same set as the old one, the engine looks so much better than the old one. The paint on the Niagara looks more cleaner and sharper and the details look more finer than the older version. The rolling stock looks more sharper and finer compared to the old ones. Also, the power supply is the modern one from Bachmann. The power supply that came with my old set had a black life-like style power supply. In conclusion, it is nice to see this set get updated to modern times. My only gripe with this set is that it is not DCC-ready.
This train set is such a long-runner, and I don't just mean the number of freight cars. Bachmann began making it in the mid-to-late 1980s, and originally it used a figure-8 track plan (with 90-degree crossing), and then when E-Z Track was introduced they switched to a large oval of that. Then the locomotive began to get better in quality (from a pancake motor to a decent 3-pole can motor with all-wheel drive) and the freight cars had body-mount knuckle couplers added.
there are three versions of this train set the one from 80's with the crappy axles and gears that shattered all the time, the version from the 2000's still with the splitting exles then there is the version from 2018 and up with the better exles and improvements, you could put the most recent wheels sets from the modern version into the older version.
@@1964catt Or you could get 3D-printed replacements for the gears and axle centers. In fact, you would _have_ to do that (assuming the split axles were even broken in the first place) because the modern wheelsets would short the split-chassis versions.
Just bought this set at a train show......$80.00........ runs great.
It runs great?! And it was only 80$?!...I need to go to a train show
This is the most food review looking model train showcase Ive ever seen
I've seen a few of your reviews on train sets. One thing I really appreciate is that you do a great job of showing us the product in great detail, without any commentary. You let us decide what's good or not good,, or what we like don't like about the product. Kudoos!
I had this set a long time ago, MAN this is probably the absolute best value train set and certainly best starter train set there ever was. 9 car train, powerful good locomotive, and plenty of track to start. If anyone wants to get into the hobby, THIS and the Empire Builder in N scale are THE SETS to get.
I've wanted this train set ever since I was a little kid... maybe some day...
Say! I got that train set at the Dayton Train Show a few years ago. I've been wanting it just forever, and now it's finally mine!
I love this set, really I do. But why is the steam train a Niagara? The Union Pacific never had any. Unless if Bachman knows something we don’t.
The UP did have 4-8-4s in the form of the FEFs, but to my knowledge Bachmann doesn’t have an FEF tooling in their HO range. So they used the Niagara tooling, and just replaced the tender
You know sometimes these train sets run better than the other ones that you have paid a fortune for
True. But sometimes bachmann has reliability issues, in the couplers. Always best to replace them with Kadee
@@SpheroJr3289 are you able to put those on MTH and BLI HO products?
@@UselessNekoGang erm… everything that has a coupler box?
Not really. Bachmann stuff isnt very good when it comes to its mechanisms
This train set is what introduced me into model trains
I'm obsessed with model trains.
I wish I could get some i live in an area were they are not Available
@@May-The-Tank-Engine You know there's Amazon right?
@@SomeLocoStudios yes and I haved research
@@SomeLocoStudios plus I'm to poor to own that kind of stuff
Hi, obsessed with model trains. I'm SkupperNog.
If you, by any chance, lose the logs on the Great Northern flat car, you can always buy some Slim Jim or Jack Link's Beef Sticks, cut them in thirds, and load 'em. 😆
Lolllllll
That is the best model train hack I have ever heard.
H izzat ex
@@anirbandas9003 ?
Oh yes. I remember having this train set back in december 2005 and i loved it, especially how the steam locomotive looked. It was the best train set i've ever had. Unfortunately, it got wrecked by someone and it was no longer working and i was really fucking pissed off by that. However, 11 1/2 years later, i had another chance, i bought a new overland limited train set and it went pretty well even though there were some small issues with the steam locomotive. i was just happy that i got another chance with this train set since the one back then was destroyed. Now i get to play with it without any annoying problems in the way.
Now i get to play with it without any annoying problems in the way.................... WOW LOL!
@@joeytb3901 its not funny
@@DanplayzWT
good for you i asksed for train on cristmas i got books and shoes
@@beckybuchanan9602 dang
Hi World Of Trains iam From India i love ur Train Collections and Please do Indian Railway Set Please 🇮🇳 INDIAN RAILWAYS.
Now _this_ is what I call a train set!
I agree with you my friend
Awesome UP FEF-1! These are some of the most beautiful steam locomotives ever.
that is a not a FEF-1, that is a *NYC Niagara* in Union Pacific greyhound paint with a Vanderbilt tender
Don’t correct him I know he’s wrong but still don’t correct him
@@nikerailfanningttm9046☝️🤓
Man if i had the money and room for these things my life would be a much different experience lol
ตจ
You can always fit in a Railroad or Railway as we say in the UK. Even a micro layout can be heaps of fun. I spent an enjoyable evening with my boys watching a train go round. Even my brother and one of his sons joined in. It's not easy but well worth it.
there's always N SCALE
*money*
@Bolly650 not sure what had you comment on a 2 year old comment but thanks for the reminder I suppose
I wish, I wish I had my old train set back. Trains, depot, houses, trees, cars, a bridge, people, all sorts of HO scale town models, even working street lights. All by the age of 13. But then carefully packed it away.
Then my older brother sneaked into my bedroom closest and stole it all for his 1st born. I was only 14. The youngest of 6.
I put up a stink of course. He wound up giving me $200 for all of it. Today ? Maybe 3 or $4000.
I know, forgive and forget. Well it seems difficult to do either.
Enough said.
Make him pay the $4000
Nice, a classic steam freight set.
Looks the part, nicely presented.
Hi World Of Trains! Your videos inspire me to make trains in Minecraft I love your channel!
Get 22 inch radius curves. It'll save you the headaches from derailments.
YES OMG
Had this set since I was a child about 2 decades ago and only ever ran it maybe twice
I have this! got it a year ago! It's a great set!
Tip for the future from an experienced modeler: build your train from the back forwards. It's easier to build them that way.
I love these videos. Keep up the good work sir.
I bought the exact set which started my hobby 😎👍🏻
Same here buddy! My son and I are well on our way to becoming railroad tycoons! Lol
Hell yea man🤘🏻
Is this a good set to get into the hobby? If so i may get this
@@CovBert I think it's a good set to start with but I'd also look into the bachmann digital commander set. You get two engines that are dcc controlled for nearly the same price
Wow! Nice locomotive! Never mind the fact that it is a repainted Niagara without the smoke deflectors or tender!
I'm just getting started in the hobby, actually. This is a great review.
Me to i just got two cars for my NKP 765 to pull
The locomotive is actually a New York Central “Niagara” dressed as a Union Pacific FEF.
Without the smoke deflectors.
If I ever get one of those things, the first thing I’d do would be to paint the engine into a New York Central paint scheme. Two of my closest friends both have the Niagaras from this set, and I’ve volunteered to help one of them repaint theirs into a proper NYC paint scheme.
This Is my favourite train set ever l wish l Can have this train set then it will be so cool
This set looks awesome!! And also I didn’t know that smoke comes out of the engine!!
I found the locomotive missing the tender in an antique shop. The things you can find in them is truly random and amazing.
Thats just a niagara but with no smokedeflectors and with union pacific tender
Heres proof:
Look at the smokebox it kinda looks like niagara if you look in the google,
Tender of the challenger or 5511,
Painted union pacific greyhound
The creator actually didnt painted the loco, the factory did
That train set looks cool. I might get that train set
Very nice REVIEW.
What's with the robot suit.???
I'm not surprised this cost *$445.00* because of the locomotive it is and the whole big train you get
On trainworld.com you can find it for 220$
I mean with nine wagons and a locomotive the size of Russia what do you expect. Plus the massive loop of track, I just wish more of the track had 1 or 2 points, enough for a inglenook shunting challenge.
I've got that one too and it runs pretty well.
Woooou,great composicion. Very nice!
Cool train set👍👍❤️🤩
I Love That Bachmann Union Pacific HO Freight Set.
Very good video.Enjoy it thanks
That’s a lot of train cars ant that is the biggest set I have ever seen keep up the good work
man i would really love to get one. I really love trains and I had a toy train when I was child with lighta on it. Turning off my room light and watching it go around.
What was with the repeatedly holding the engine back with your finger, to the point that we barely got to see it actually running?
How come your steam locomotive doesn’t squeak? Each time I run this set, the rods squeak.
*its called LUBRICATION OIL! use it sparingly on the coupling rods and motion and it will stop the squeaking*
@@nikerailfanningttm9046lubrication oil costs money
Why are you pushing against the train while running it full ahead ? Does that mess up the wheels and motor ?
Probably
Isn't the engine a new york central niagara but In union pacific colours
Excellent set.
I love love love love so much the BACHMANN-HO overland classical train means this train 💪💪💯💯💯💯💙💙💙
This set is jaw-dropping cool. I remember being so jealous of my friend that received similar sets (at a lower quality actually, but still) from their parents. Now I can afford something like this but I don't have the space in my 1/43 scale collection.
So if in the past I used to admire these train sets at my friend's home, now I am doing the same, but on UA-cam 😅😅
I have this set. Love it!
Ok dose anyone else get the creepy murder vibe when watching this? Complete silence, all black rubber gloves....got them murderer vibes lol
I do
Big time as soon as it started I was like have to check the comments 😅😂
I get dexter morgan vibes.
If I ever get this, I’m gonna repaint the engine into N.Y.C. colors, as it’s a Niagara but with U.P. Grayhound
Remember sets sell for all different prices. You should never pay the MSRP. Walmart has this for half of what Bachmann lists this at.
what kind of walmart do u go to that not only sells HO scale train sets, but also sells them at half price?
@@Bolly650 On line versus Bachmann's MSRP.
Uma locomotiva fabulosa!!!
🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃
I have a question can you touch the rails while active.
Yes
Thank you
you can, but don't lick 'em while they are live LOL
@@nikerailfanningttm9046why would you do that
That is one heck of a set.
I’d like to buy this to pull my Amtrak Soon-To-Be Silver Meteor!
Instablaster...
Wow, the trains are really nice. I like trains, so I bought a cheap train
Nice Train Set
It bugs me how in Bachmann videos he says LIMITED there limited
Say what
Bro thats the name of the set its not an limited edition model
i'm love trains❤🤗
Does anyone know if this is the largest HO scale set you can buy? Largest by number of cars and not necessarily track length.
Most likely yes
I love all trains
Kepingin sekali belikan seperti ini buat anak, tapi uang belum ada😅
That's The Biggest Train Set I Saw Cause Of The Number Of Cars
I've noticed on every review at least 2 of the drivers wobble or are out of round, which in my experience causes things to go out of Guage or vibrate loose. Better Q.C. tooling seems to be an ongoing dilemma with Bachmann. The real high end stuff is better but I have a few of these and all have some minor fault here and there. As far as what you pay they perform more than adequately, and with minor care and adjustments should last a lifetime. Do not over oil , as this causes all your
Screws and rivets in you drive rods to loosen and fall off. Also excessive oil picks up dirt and grime and causes frequent track cleaning and bad electrical continuity.
i always put the caboose first so the crew can access it easier from the locomotive
where can i buy something like this
17:36 polar express vibes
the Niagra was based on the Up engine. Just the tender is different
Needs nickle silver track not alloy, other wise amazing set.
Funny enough, mine came with it. Must be certain versions that didn’t have it.
Very cool
Heres a tip. The smoke juice you get in these sets i feel is crap. So in my train I use omg nicotine grape flavored vape juice. Works well and way more smoke
❤❤❤❤
Been wanting to get this set but the one thing stopping me is the locomotive for this set bachmann decided to be lazy and redressed their New York Central Niagra locomotive instead of putting in a union pacific design (like the fef northern) and having a union pacific Niagara wouldnt look right to me I hope that change the engine or even just tinker with the original Niagara design to make the model look more union pacific looking plus I dont think the U.P greyhound paint scheme fits it to well it would have been better off and more realistic if it was U.Ps black freight hauler scheme the rest of the set is fine.
Bachmanns always been cheap so I wouldn't get your hopes up they put a more region correct locomotive in the set.
I've actually taken a few of these and repainted them to the proper railroad,lol.
Super. 💙 T.E.N.
The engine looks like the polar express one's.......👌🏼👌🏼
Also don't use a DCC controller on that train cuz you're going to burn the motor right out of it it's meant for other diesel engines and steam trains that have sound quipped but I bet you can make that engine sound proof or you need a tsunami2 that's the motherboard to make it sound with all the bills and whistles and announcements and the steam
The engine is just NYC Niagara without smoke deflectors and a different tender with the Union Pacific greyhound livery.
I noticed that i didn't know that until I read this and reasearch
I'd like to say Bachmann did it to save on production costs by not having to spend extra on another HO scale 4-8-4 shell, and since these are going to first-time modelers, they figured that market wouldn't be too picky about accuracy.
This train and amazing
I have 3 Bachman sets 1 steam and 2 diesels one no of them is old so I have to tap it but nice train set that must be so long
With gloves and a jacket like that I’m wondering if this dude stole that set.
I also don't know why he uses gloves
The point of the track that you plug in is a re-Railer built in. And of course for power.
Wow🥰👍🇧🇩✌
Que gran juguete 😱
Yo quiero un tren de esos
This train and à amazing
And also I love this set
Estoy enamorado 😻 de este set. ¡Lo quiero! ¿Saben dónde lo puedo encontrar en Peru 🇵🇪?
If dexter morgan opened and put together a train set:
Is the engine dcc ready?
I don’t think so
Is that A Union Pacific Niagara??
Yuppp, its the N.Y.C niagra but no smoke deflecters and in the greyhound scheme
Ngl looks pretty nice
If ya wanted to you could repaint the engine to nyc colors and the caboose repainted to nyc as well and have a nyc NIAGRA without smoke deflectors some did irl..but I’d feel better if they re did this set in nyc paint with a proper nyc centipede tender course you can find one but most of the NIAGRAs are dcc and would be unable to run with this engine properly
I would just repaint this in nyc paint and make it a static display engine on a section of dead museum track
Geez if I needed a bulk pack of cars. I count 9 including the caboose.
Me gustó mucho,gracias
19:39 Don’t bother the engine while it is going and you might break it
I got this set and the engines smoke box ruined the inside of the train and bachmann "couldn't help me" I still like bachmann but, be careful with what you get
mine is all show, no go. Most likely has the cracked gears that has plagued Botchmann... er... Bachmann since the seventies. I understand there are folks who 3D print replacement gears.