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I must say that I have been enjoying your casts of AoE4, especially the most recent ones showcasing the new Ottomans. It is remarkable with how little villagers and with a slower economy the Ottomans are able to pressure their opponents.
my boy szalami gave us a historically accurate ottoman gameplay ahshaha leaving your artillery without protection is not a good idea turks learn that at vienna ahshaha banger game tho! wp!
That's got to be the best game I've ever seen.
So it would seem...
These guys learned how to counter my fast IMP! Little they know... i already made a new BO to counter my counter MUHAHAHA!
You played a great game. Entertaining as always!
bruh if you just remembered to get the ranged armor upgrades and not advanced too far in to that archer mass you had the game!!
that doesn't matter, after the firs mangonel i should have to put the mehmed on springald also bring monk closer with Relic@@tetefather
Very fun to watch
You’re a beast 👍
Dope asf
Great to see yet another Ottoman game, they're among my favorites ❤️ alongside Delhi and Abbasid.
“50 thousand deer used to live here.” I love it
THIS GAME WAS A BANGER! THANK YOU DRONGO
voice in my head screaming to ReallyUnskilled every time he's in the back of Corvinus/Salami's base "build rams!!! villagers dont matter!"
Ottomans lost, and that's ok. No-one is trying to make Ottomans OP. Ppl want the Great Bombard to be A FUN UNIT = to have a decent AOE damage, because we JUST WANT TO BLOW UP SHYT
Quiet turkbot
I really don’t like when people spoil the outcome of the game like this.
@@steelcommander9918 Quiet you lil beetsch
@@ownser1 Who reads through comments before watching the video? you're asking to have it spoiled o.0
@@Chicken_Dippers some top comments get shown in the comment section UI before you even having to open it. Not too hard to read “ottomans lose” at a quick glance even if unintentional.
Even when they lose, Ottomans look seriously OP
hew was just securing the victory by stocking resources
Jans +%50 ranged damage is too much. Last period of the game Hre player only spams archers against jans.
that's what i thought, but drongo had a good point, had covinus maintained his bombards close to his jans, it would have been a different end for sure as the rams were starting to mess with the production
@@Cunha2105 Yeah but had HRE massed Horseman + staggered archers Great Bombard couldn't do nothing because GB's AOE damage is pathetic
Could've spammed scouts with the eco bank he had
@@riddybombastic3653 HRE had 30k+ in bank, this is a fake game to try show Ottoman Great Bombard is good now
@riddybombastic3653 but Jan's counter cav right?
The ottos had ZERO upgrades against 3+ melee and ranged armor and attack too. Upgrades matter. HRE melted the last push.
Ottos should've lost much faster: True to his name, ReallyUnskilled forgot to stagger his armies (!), had ABYSMAL unit comp and 20k in bank! But this had a colossal benefit to all of us: it showed how much fun AoE4 could be IF the Great Bombard HAD an effective AOE damage (it still DOESN'T). This game was epic fun
A semi positive comment!!?? Is this character development?
@@patriciogonzalez9329yes it seems that our prayers are being answered
@@patriciogonzalez9329 trolls get lvl up
At last a game where a player playing as the Ottomans looses.
This game was absolutely ridiculous.
What a game!!!
more ottoman gameplay YEWW!!!!!
Random +2 melee attack upgrade with only ranged units. Make sense 😂
SUPER-EXPENSIVE IMPERIAL AGE GREAT BOMBARD DOES 10 (TEN) TIMES LESS AOE DAMAGE THAN A FRIGGIN MANGONEL!!!
Yes, the specialist unit for aoe damage does more damage then the unit that melts buildings and siege and also has a bonus aoe effect to sweeten the deal. Nice observation
Okay? GBs obliterate bases too though and have way more health, way harder to take out, more range, I’ve never been bum rushed by 15 mangonels and 60 jannisaries and wiped before, guess what I have been wiped by and my team completely unable to stop? GB spam
Insane game, ottomans rule nobody else can lose all their villiagers in this game.
Interesting civ otto is
Absolutely ludicrous game.
What joke is this? At one moment HRE had 25k+ (25,000) res in bank and was no aggression.. Pure test play, 100% doctored video to try and dishonest portrait "Great Bombard is good now after patch"
None of that made any sense.
@@minimcune For you, absolutely. I didn't expect you to understand a thing
@@mfrlorj cool.
@@minimcunehe had so many resources but his army was small. He was at pop cap and 18k food. Why he didn’t delete his food vills and flesh out his army is beyond me. 20 cavalry units could’ve taken the bombards out easily.
Thats an epic game to watch.
Holy moly that was impressive. Down to 9 vils and still threatens the enemy to a stall. Really unskilled peaking at 155 vils was hard to watch though. Floating 30k+ ressources. Wild.
really not impressive, just really shows how absolutely overbuffed and broken ottomans are since the most recent update. it's not some godly gameplay coming out from corvinus, its just overpowered.
Finally a killer fun AoE4 game, Ottos lost but this game shows why the Otto Bombard still desperately needs a better AOE damage, AoE4 would be super fun game
he almost came back with 9 vils vs 70 had he not got too greedy and you say 'if anything this shows that otto's still need a buff' WHAT?!
HRE should’ve VERY easily won this game quickly, had 30k in bank
AOE IV is a fun game. Stop whinging and just play.🤭
@@wardancer400the people in these comments are brain dead
Keep making ottoman content
How really nice of ReallyUnskilled to limit himself to max 45 military pop to make things more fair.
Ikr? Once he removed his limiter....it wasn't even close anymore
The MIA is worth up to ~8-10 unupgraded villagers in the imperial age (120w/240g per minute). Military schools are worth ~4 unupgraded villagers (157 res/minute). So with 5 military schools and the MIA, it's equivalent to ~28-30 unupgraded villagers, or as little as ~20 fully upgraded villagers.
For real?
This game was BRUTALLY FUN because it showed what Great Bombard COULD (SHOULD) BE if it had a LARGER AOE DAMAGE EFFECT. 'ReallyUnskilled' never staggered troops and never made Horsemen mass, so it bizarrely allowed Great Bombard to do a little AOE damage. Most fun game EVER (still Otto lost)
Quiet Turkbot
A larger aoe for a unit that can one shot most units in the game at 11 tile range is gonna backfire.
@@steelcommander9918 You quiet lil beetsch
@@davaa31No
@@JoseEdivaldodeMoura stop spamming drongos channel with all your alts
Just go full landsknecht
One perfect move after the other. This might be the highlight of AOEIV. These are some of the most brilliantly laid out maneuvers which I must think Unskilled and Corvinus have practiced to perfection. Bravo. My favorite (~30 minutes in) was the tactical bait of the Bombbards, retreting them imediatly after their first shot, sending the Spingalds after the Culverin, and finally in the middle of that his 3 click was to send janisaries to heal. Impressed
Newsflash: Drongo is an Ottoman main. U heard it here first. 😅
holy shiet I thought Unskilled will surrender at any moment. But if you think about it, Unskilled had so much ressources, that he can spam these Archers and Mangonels in his Base. Even though he had too much villagers and even when Corvinus didnt missplay at the end, he should be able to win with his massive amount of ressources.
@Aussie_Drongo said it. And I agree that I think Corvinus was too greedy and lost the game. Had he simple put down a foot hold and continued his trategie. his loss rate would have been much slower than HRE and he could have drained those resources. Kind of creepy that this somewhat reflects history... huh who woulda thunk
Kinda takes away from the hype that hre was banking 15k resources
what this guy having 20k food not using
ottomans so bad they lost twice xddd
lol
I can't help but think if cav was mixed in with the HRE player, this comeback would have been impossible. Without unit mass, ottomans cannot defend the bombards against cavalry units in open terrain. This would have let reallyunskilled hunt them down or at least deny resources to Otto and force a victory.
i think what ended up happening is Unskilled sent a large group of MAA towards corvinus' base. the counter to the MAA were the mass cannons that Corvinus had, but they were across the map. This caused corvinus to be occupied with the MAA harass and the MAA were trading well against the janissaries. corvinus lost control towards the end because of the game winning decision from unskilled to send MAA towards the enemy at the end
Yeah, I feel like he should've focused completely on micro'ing his army instead of managing his economy against the MAA raid. Happens a lot in this game that lots of units die because either of the players is busy with eco. I know eco is important, but surely losing 2-3k resources in a few seconds hurts more than directing a few villagers a couple of seconds too late
Bombards were the answer to range units in the last fight, but he just tanked the ranged units with all his jans, he was basically dead so props to him anyway :D
The issue was that HRE still had 4 culverines in the back. Peaking with the GB's would have meant game over for them. He tried to kill the culvs with jans which was absolutely the wrong call. Should have mixed in sipahis into the army comp to seal the deal.
@@onur62dersimos Right at 39:50 he should have backed up his jans and sniped the culv with the gbs, he stood there and got shredded after that. I agree, on Sipahis tho, having just 10-15 could do some wonders, or lancers.
Friendly reminder that this is the same comp that the turkbots spent months complaining about. It hasn't been buffed. It's the same as it was before, I think what they were trying to say was "I'm not good enough to use it."
I think if he would have mixed in sipahis to clear the culvs, he would have actually won the game.
@@onur62dersimos Highly Unskilled also made a huge mistake letting him back into the game at all. If he had just flooded infantry into the ottoman base to torch down the military schools the game ends when Corvinus is still sub 10 vills. As long as infantry units are spread as they approach the GB can't kill them all fast enough before they get on top of it.
I think that the main issue with the ottomans is that the Jans take 50% more damage. If they would just make that 25% or none extra damage from ranged. That would balance the jannissaries.
@@timwhitman3207he literally did. One great bombard cleared them all
Ottomans continually buffed since they were out a year ago.
As an Ottoman main who mainly plays team games, Jan+GBomb+Lancer is always my go-to post-Imp deathball. It’s extremely fun to play
Siege works prevents 1 shot, then chemistry takes it back to 1 shot.
lol
corvinus is absolutly throwing that match he/she could've won that
>she
Women aren't intelligent enough for a game like this
His mouse battery died dude. 😅
Trust me brother my balls are heavy
Both were making the match longer for no reason.
HRE had the complete advantage but refused to make mangonels while the Ottoman player should’ve pushed the moment it took their army
@@MichaelLwin2011 for real?
damn that hero Bombard saves lifes man
Nice play by Unskilled, controlling the sides and spamming forth, tho as you said if he deleted some of his gold and food eco he could have pushed much harder against that frontal attack, maybe even win without reckless move of Corvinus.
Corve just took away our chance to have the greatest otto game of all times. GG tho this was insane
It's just like wrestling, you can't rush the finish.
Yeah, seems like the ottomans do what they're supposed to now.
They seem to be centered towards less base building, map control and economic focus and just pumping free units in a turtle base.
Personally it seems like it's aimed towards console and controller play style.
great video
This is so much more entertaining than videos criticizing movies or politics
I don't care what players better than me say, ~155 villagers is just too damn much. I feel like at that point you can no longer even field a proper balanced army with a critical mass, and you lose more resources to deaths than you gain from the extra vills
The reason he is chilling like that is because he already setup SOO much production...he could pump out an army within seconds...he is in control the whole time
Can we watch him playing against better players lol
I think a big part on why Corvinus lost was not because of last-minute mismanagement of the Great bombards (though related), but the fact that Jannisaries were designed to be anti-cavalry compared to handcannonners. The fact that HRE isn't a cavalry civ throws that Jannisary advantage away.
In addition, Jannisaries take +50% bonus damage from other ranged units like archers or crossbowmen. Without the support of the great bombards, they would melt from the archers and mangonels as seen. Potentially Sipahi could have been made to mitigate that gap?
the ideal composition for ottoman is sipahi, janissary, great bombards and mehter.
@@jeromethy True, but in this specific case against civs with the culverin, Ottomans need to spend more effort to make springalds over sipahis.
I'm really excited for the Japanese faction, I have such great memories of playing with them on AoE 3 with my friends back in the day.
No
Excited for samurais. I thought I would see sword/ranged feature with Jannies but it seems Samurai got the long stick. That said I am definitely not excited to see ninjutsu in medieval warfare !!
@@ardaarsenshinobi did fight during medieval times though lol. The Hattori had retinues with ninjas (shinobi)
41:15 We agree with everything you said. What a game.
SMH great bombards only good if you have 9 villagers and they are actually firing. Trash unit, trash devs.
Szalami is the most creative aoe4 player I have seen. This guy once beat 7 players on FFA holding a single sacred site with hre (all top level players). Very prolific with strategies also with malians and deli back in the day (thus his name emerged as king of trades, the wololo god). The fact that with 9 vils he made a comeback to a winning position is win for me.
I always thought having more of a military than villagers is better than the latter, but after watching beasty I see that is not true and unskilled demonstrated exactly that. While your forces drop away from the base, inside the enemies territory, once they came and attack you, you keep spamming units into your base and have a better ecomnomy to never stop producing, eventually the enemy runs out of resoruces and all their troop die due to overwhelming odds. The amount of times I've seen someone hit beastys base and beasty almost always comes out on top is a lot. You really need to focus on the perfect medium between each, vs your opponent. Too many troops, you run out of resources, too many resources and you can get overwhelmed, etc, etc
Goddamn... Unskilled player?? Really? Wtf that is the biggest cap ever...he wanted the ottoman to attack him...he is fckin ready all along...with so much production (he got like 10k foods...kinda too much tho) he could pump out MMA forever without ever running out of resources....they are like fcking zombies🤣🤣 dead? Another came to replace....he was in control the whole time
Bro waited for the very last minutes before deleting his own villagers(very greedy gigachad move)...wow what game... probably the best i ever seen😂😂
Does not say who wins.
It’s obvious that HRE won the match after dealing with the Ottoman army
not a hater but ottoman is way op. free units, free siege, imams early, great bombard, unique units,, they have it all.
and only playable by a handful of players, mostly top20!
@@ardaarsen totally disagree, i am one of those english purists ive been studying strat for like 2 years. ive made it to plat 2. havent played much this season im sitting at gold 2, however even before this fast imperial meta there was a real push toward ottomans in the last few months. i used to dread playing with french and their knights. now theres been a huge ottoman push and even people way lower on the elo are beating me. i find the best way to beat them is 1 tc english with a constant flow of units in feudal just to keep pressure on the stone. once i hit castle i grab like 3 knights and clean up vills giving the ottomans just 2 minutes of idle can cause you to lose the game. this is not balanced
unskilled was pretending that cav dont exist
watching szlami not get wheelbarrow for 30 minutes while all his villagers die cause archers exist is so painful. Poor guy, he should implement wheelbarrow in his fast imperial. It would probably pay for itself by then anyways!
does chemistry affect culverins/bombards? couldnt tell but it sounded like you implied it does.
Just as fast as me when lovey dovey time comes around. Love you sillyhead drongo!
What a throw! Corvinus shoulda had that one in the bag
Diiiiiid you see the resource bank, production and map control of reallyunskilled? Losing was never an option it was just a matter of when to pull the trigger
when really unskilled was floating 20000 resources and corvinus had like 30 vils thats when he needed to just flood men at arms/horsemen etc into his base and just not stop until he won. Like when Beasty says theres a difference between top pro players and a regular conq 3 player I know what it means when I see stuff like this. On that same note corvinus sacrificing his janissary mass was hard to watch. Almost a double throw but I guess someone had to win
Pls start a podcast and talk about everithing from aeo4 to aliens
amazing cast. I don't think the game was really designed to encourage fast age ups of any kind. It seems the more organic your age up is the more rewarded you get. Aging up too fast is 1 dimensional with most civs and is telegraphing your play. comp switches become too hard and you pigeon hole yourself into a comp that can be easily countered and when it is you can't switch to counter their counter play. with a slow age up you more comfortably cycle through comps as you need to because your resources didn't get tied up.
Imagine if HRE's didn't have the culverines to counter the great bombards. I think this is the only reason why we even seen players going Imperial Age as ottomans, sine there is no way to counter the bombards in castle except with alot of springles.
@@onur62dersimos hmm. Not really. I recently spammed maa longbow vs great bombards and jannies and with a spaced out army I was able to beat it.
ReallyUnskilled made the mistake of macro'ing to stone during the push so he could put down a BM keep. You don't want to do that with Ottomans as they have great bombards. He should have macro'd to more wood and then did the ram spam into the MIA and military schools. More rams, less stone, and it would have been all over in 20 mins.
This is just a test play obviously.
i miss the wide zoom drongo
Im call coin this as thr FN strat. The Fast Napoleon era strat.
Killin me smalls lol. Generaltso1205.
This game just proved how unbalanced ottomas are now..no civ with 9 villa should be able to survive. A civ with 9 vills just producing as much as a civ on 120 vills lol
The HRE player literally can't match the siege of the ottoman as Bombards just pop out every 2 minutes for free, and they range their counter. It's ridiculous. Everyone online now in FFAs just goes Ottoman and masses bombards and Jan's.
I can't agree. Really Unskilled was all through Corvinus' base. He macro'd to stone and built a keep that got taken out by the GB - waste of 900 stone. That should instead have been put to 4+ rams. What he should have done was macro'd to wood and taken out the MIA with rams. That should have been his primary objective. Even if you have to pull like 50 vills to torch it then send them back home (to be replenished if needed with Swabia) that's what you've got to do. Then use MAA to take out military schools and then snipe the two remaining landmarks. It shouldn't have been that hard.
Bro it was over. The game just dragged for extra 20 minutes. Unskilled just chilled out.
where in the hell was this guy looking when he engaged with his army in the end?
even gold players dont make a mistake like that
If some other games (like Civ 6) are any indication, we might still have people going around saying Ottoman suck.
Many are just unable to change their first opinion. XD
otto think front line is not necessary. But it’s the key to maintain pushing
What is the benefit of preordering the DLC?
Ah… that’s a bad throw
200 pop cap too op.
idk.. i would have deleted like 50-80% of my villagers made amy and go. This was soo ineffective. fighting 1 vs 2 all the time ( military count)
Most of the games that ive seen so far, ive barely (if at all) seen anyone build stone walls can someone explain that to me?
Bad micro from corvinus , he really could have sealed the deal on the last push. What a shame.
Adderal: +25% APM capacity.
YESSS. We won!!! Ottoman haters for the WIIIIIIB!!!!!!
This is not even fun to watch. I stopped at 20:22 minute mark. I wont watch any Ottomans game anymore.
Well you missed a great game.
you did well, son. I had heart attack watcihng the rest
rofl... Corvinus sucks
These trollers will never stop will they? hahaha
Both played really bad. The green had good economy and all but no army, the other one didn't do any upgrade, not even one.
Corvinus was probably lke... "whelp I scewed this imperial age transition... wait a minute... why am I still alive?" and then the game became even more demented
who are those janissary haters? :( @Aussie_Drongo
G'day good Sir.