the thing is, the team itself fucking sucks, they can't even handle current LEC scene, but the fanbase act bigger than 5 times Worlds champions that doesn't even exist lmao
Yep it's getting so much, I think the only way to really handle it would be for Kameto (or anyone other big KC person) to call out/ban/block everyone that is being very toxic towards others under any non toxic comment/tweet. Because if their "Boss" shows them how he despises them, it would surely stop a lot of them and might make even a lot of ultras behave.
It's funny how so many new caedrel fan will hate on iwd, but reals one know that iwd put caedrel on the map. He constantly invited him to costreams and hosted him as well when he was starting. IWD might flame the hell out of you, but he is one loyal dude and is willing to play defense for the people he thinks are not in the wrong.
A bad person can still do good things. Even Ted Bundy helped people on suicide hotline. Just because I like pedro and he is a good friend with IWD doesn't mean I can't hate IWD. He's still an LPL bootlicking ahole. Of course credit where credit is due, IWD is 100% in the right here.
iwd did not make cadrel. pedro was a pro player and featured on the desk. the reason he has few criticism is because he built his career on honest commentary and did not instigate or partake in needless drama for channel growth. iwd will always be a pos in the eyes of people who know how treats those who are not his "brothers" as you put it.
Dom is just not afraid to say when those teams are playing shit he will say they are playing shit. If anything if not for the fanbase Dom would love how T1 plays cuz they are closest to LPL team in LCK. But if your team is underperforming (or in case KC and MAD performing as sane and logical person would think they will) and those ultras gonna send you death threats because of that how after that those fans can pretend that Dom was an initiator of all those conflicts? He legit had friend & player he hyped up in KC in the winter split and they were calling him hater of a team. Dom is legit half hispanic and MAD fans were calling him racist and xenophobic when any person with eyes can see Dom has hispanic blood in him ffs
As a T1 fan I totally understand why he hates on them. They have always played like ass in the normal split compared to international tournaments, but I do worry they are slipping pretty far from normal this season. I am not part of the super fan community as I just watch rat king videos, but I have heard the super fans are pretty wack.
my question in all this is why is Riot not condemning death threats in its esports. A threat to kick the team out if they cannot control their fans would be enough to shut them up. Riot's inaction is in essence the same as tolerating the death threats. This is not solo q ranked. There needs to be consequences
It's not as easy, imagine I now hate KC and want them gone, it'd be easy for me to now pose as a KC fan and hate on absolutely everyone in the space. It's unfortunately not that simple to just pin people with their behaviour to their teams until they show up in person somewhere.
@@ArthurAtlas and by then, its too late. which is the problem. teams need to be held more accountable and honestly they SHOULD call out the ultra fans instead of dying on a hill with them.
I am not a lawyer and I don't live in the UK, but in America that is insanely expensive and takes years for it to complete. Also because of the amount of people flaming him it would take even longer and cost more during discovery to get evidence on everyone. That is not really feasible for anyone that is not a billion dollar corp.
@@BronzeDragon0009 In France (which is where most of these KC fans live I'd assume) you can file a complaint to the police for harassment. There are legal precedents when some cyber harassers had to go in front of a judge. It doesn't cost you anything but it can help to have a lawyer (mostly to speed things up or/and be taken seriously by the police).
@@BronzeDragon0009 just sue the worst one and make it public. You don't need to sue every single one of them just make and example. And a cease and desist would suffice. I googled how much that costs and i would estimate that would cost around 1000-5000€(Probably more on the expensive side tho because most of them live in France.). Also Caedrel probably already has a lawyer because of copyright or contracts with Riot for Example. Somebody who checks his legal documents so he doesn't get scammed. The only trade off would be the image which would tank a bit i believe. But you know how forgetful the internet is and everybody hates KCorp Ultras anyways.
@@BronzeDragon0009 I have seen various streamers do it and the number of people harassing drastically decreased. If it is too many people who can be sued, they just sue a handful of them to set an example.
it's not surprising orgs that can't grow through success can only find it through polarization. and at this point it feels like this kameto guy's not even being silent for the money, he just agrees with their behavior, death threats and all.
Everything you just said is irrelevant because saying Org that can’t grow through success when talking about KC doesn’t make sense if anything the fact that it’s their first year and they managed for make playoffs is great then your second point about kameto is really bad since if you would probably watch his streams(not that you probably understand french) you would know he adresses every situation as much as he can but at some point tf do you want him to do
@@a.h7776 it's just annoying that KC fans are normalizing this behavior. I'm a lurker and seen KC performance and I really cheer for their success just like how BRO is getting cooked. BRO still has a lot of respect and support. I've never seen BRO fans of any sort death threat any since I lurk and do my thing. the point is still there. KC as an org is still young and I want them to thrive but not trampling those people around them. show respect and earn it. I am unhinged and racist and possibly worst. but I don't show it or boasts abt it. just understanding should be enough. Caedrel probably criticizing KC org because he wants them to do better.
@@bahabahabahabahb1763 look our big guy kameto made a post! did his worthless community stop the death threats? no? well consider it as "he didn't do anything" then. his literal admins perpetrate all of this, for as long as they don't get booted off, he's essentially enabling this disgusting behavior
@@a.h7776 are you mentally slow? its their second year in the lec not their first and you only need top 8 to get into playoffs. THERE'S ONLY 10 TEAMS YOU BOT.
one of the main things that these ultra fans gotta realize with dom specifically, is his toxic flame is not personal. its based on their current performances, and he's perfectly willing to give bad teams their graces if they do well or make positive plays. he doesnt even hate the players or the teams specifically, he just loves to trigger the fanbois who will die on a fucking hill over admitting someone on their team they worship like deities is playing poorly. if the team is playing bad, just admit, theyre playing bad. you dont need to defend everything they do, or cope with every excuse imaginable. i dont hate t1's players but i love to watch them lose, but its not because i dont like the team. i like when they do well. but i like when they fail more because it helps them fucking IMPROVE. and its these same fucking "ultra" fans who send death threats and trucks to the fucking players. how mentally ill do they have to be? now i realize that the ultra fans and mentally ill patients who deserve a straight-jacket, are the outspoken minorities, and the vast majority of fans either quietly cheer their teams or are generally positive and give other teams their credit instead of making every excuse under the sun for why their team lost, but as these teams are so popular, that small minority is still a significant amount of people. just felt the need to also vent a bit because one of his points really hit home in his rant. people legit told him theyd come and find him, but thankfully, this was AFTER his own career was over. but he said something along the lines of...back then, if someone wanted to take a gun to the studio and shoot him, it woulda been super fucking easy, because they didnt have security checks. thats terrifying. and as league becomes more popular, even tho regular season viewership is probably down a lil bit, and venues get bigger, the amount of wild, passionate fans gets larger and it wont be that hard to whip into a frenzy. and thats, when people get hurt. these ultra fans need to be taken more seriously with their stupid threats, before something real actually happens and either an opposing teams player gets hurt, or someone who isnt a fan of THEIR team, gets hurt. and they may not costream anymore for professional reasons (not to mention caedral's brand is way less toxic than dom's and he generally stays on most peoples good side) but dom and caedral are probably still pretty good frens, and the fact caedral admits how smart dom is about the game says a lot when caedral was the pro analyst for years, and one of the most beloved/knowledgeable. love him or hate him, he's right when he says dom is a real one. maybe a bit too toxic at times, but its almost never personal. unless its a scandal. then its obviously gonna be a bit more personal to the person in question. xD
That’s a particular thing of KC above any other fanbase is the fact that they use scapegoats to evade the fact that what they’re doing is wrong. I seriously wish KC fanbase is built on a big percentage by 10 year old kids that don’t know how to behave properly
Only fake fans don't respect IWD for all he's done for Pedro, Caedrel is talented to get consistent view but the initial exposure from dom really helped. Dom is great in his own way, crack and all.
i think a lot of people fail to realize just how many of their favorite CCs benefited from interactions with dom. there's a LOT. maybe they dont talk anymore or do content together, but he helped a lot of people out. and nobody should ever doubt how much he fucking loves the game, and his passion for analysis now.
Dom is one of the realest dudes in the LOL community, bro has been around for YEARS and no one has dirt on him and he's still relevant. What are you yapping about?
Maybe stop condoning toxic fans of a garbage team? Caedrel is right for calling out these mentally ill Fr*nch fans and they don't deserve to be shown in any light other than clinically insane.
this kc thing is mental ... no words
the thing is, the team itself fucking sucks, they can't even handle current LEC scene, but the fanbase act bigger than 5 times Worlds champions that doesn't even exist lmao
Yep it's getting so much, I think the only way to really handle it would be for Kameto (or anyone other big KC person) to call out/ban/block everyone that is being very toxic towards others under any non toxic comment/tweet.
Because if their "Boss" shows them how he despises them, it would surely stop a lot of them and might make even a lot of ultras behave.
@@MrZedddddimagine if KC was good, it would actually be doomed
French people being french people...
It's funny how so many new caedrel fan will hate on iwd, but reals one know that iwd put caedrel on the map. He constantly invited him to costreams and hosted him as well when he was starting. IWD might flame the hell out of you, but he is one loyal dude and is willing to play defense for the people he thinks are not in the wrong.
they're brothers for life. for better or worse.
A bad person can still do good things. Even Ted Bundy helped people on suicide hotline.
Just because I like pedro and he is a good friend with IWD doesn't mean I can't hate IWD. He's still an LPL bootlicking ahole.
Of course credit where credit is due, IWD is 100% in the right here.
Dom is a good guy irl, but making league content for years on end prob makes you go a little crazy
iwd did not make cadrel. pedro was a pro player and featured on the desk. the reason he has few criticism is because he built his career on honest commentary and did not instigate or partake in needless drama for channel growth. iwd will always be a pos in the eyes of people who know how treats those who are not his "brothers" as you put it.
@@GMillyxohe made his streaming career can u not read ?
Dom is just not afraid to say when those teams are playing shit he will say they are playing shit. If anything if not for the fanbase Dom would love how T1 plays cuz they are closest to LPL team in LCK. But if your team is underperforming (or in case KC and MAD performing as sane and logical person would think they will) and those ultras gonna send you death threats because of that how after that those fans can pretend that Dom was an initiator of all those conflicts? He legit had friend & player he hyped up in KC in the winter split and they were calling him hater of a team. Dom is legit half hispanic and MAD fans were calling him racist and xenophobic when any person with eyes can see Dom has hispanic blood in him ffs
As a T1 fan I totally understand why he hates on them. They have always played like ass in the normal split compared to international tournaments, but I do worry they are slipping pretty far from normal this season.
I am not part of the super fan community as I just watch rat king videos, but I have heard the super fans are pretty wack.
@@BronzeDragon0009yeah I’m pretty sure the big reason dom hates on T1 is because T1 fans doxxed his mom
Cristian Rivera doesn't sound spanish enough I guess 🤣🤣🤣
@brandendunagan8822 he doesn't even hate them because of their performance lol
@@BronzeDragon0009 nah its not about the gameplay of t1 i think it‘s only because of the fans dom hates t1
threatening to beat someone irl is actually illegal isn't it?
completly, and it's like 1 year of emprisonnement and 50K euros in France
It depends on the country but in general yes, although it's a nightmare to even start the process of punishing someone for an act like this.
You would not believe what KC fans type on twitter on an hourly basis, MDK the same
No, you can say whatever you want on internet
Its twitter, they throw more death threat than America handing out green card daily, its not that strange
my question in all this is why is Riot not condemning death threats in its esports. A threat to kick the team out if they cannot control their fans would be enough to shut them up. Riot's inaction is in essence the same as tolerating the death threats. This is not solo q ranked. There needs to be consequences
they re desperate for views
Great idea, then G2 haters will start cheering G2 and use death threats to destroy the org
It's not as easy, imagine I now hate KC and want them gone, it'd be easy for me to now pose as a KC fan and hate on absolutely everyone in the space. It's unfortunately not that simple to just pin people with their behaviour to their teams until they show up in person somewhere.
@@ArthurAtlas and by then, its too late. which is the problem. teams need to be held more accountable and honestly they SHOULD call out the ultra fans instead of dying on a hill with them.
just sue those kcorp fans. For defamation and threatening you. Some people don't learn until there are irl consequences.
I am not a lawyer and I don't live in the UK, but in America that is insanely expensive and takes years for it to complete. Also because of the amount of people flaming him it would take even longer and cost more during discovery to get evidence on everyone. That is not really feasible for anyone that is not a billion dollar corp.
@@BronzeDragon0009 In France (which is where most of these KC fans live I'd assume) you can file a complaint to the police for harassment. There are legal precedents when some cyber harassers had to go in front of a judge. It doesn't cost you anything but it can help to have a lawyer (mostly to speed things up or/and be taken seriously by the police).
@@guillaume9102 I think Caedrel lives in Germany so it would fall under german jurisdiction and that is very easily doable to sue them
@@BronzeDragon0009 just sue the worst one and make it public. You don't need to sue every single one of them just make and example. And a cease and desist would suffice. I googled how much that costs and i would estimate that would cost around 1000-5000€(Probably more on the expensive side tho because most of them live in France.). Also Caedrel probably already has a lawyer because of copyright or contracts with Riot for Example. Somebody who checks his legal documents so he doesn't get scammed. The only trade off would be the image which would tank a bit i believe. But you know how forgetful the internet is and everybody hates KCorp Ultras anyways.
@@BronzeDragon0009 I have seen various streamers do it and the number of people harassing drastically decreased. If it is too many people who can be sued, they just sue a handful of them to set an example.
Clearly it was a good idea to let kc in the lec
Dom never yielding to bullshit
5:02 CAUGHT
Did he just pick his nose then scratch his face with all of that smudgy things?
it's not surprising orgs that can't grow through success can only find it through polarization. and at this point it feels like this kameto guy's not even being silent for the money, he just agrees with their behavior, death threats and all.
He made a statement
Everything you just said is irrelevant because saying Org that can’t grow through success when talking about KC doesn’t make sense if anything the fact that it’s their first year and they managed for make playoffs is great then your second point about kameto is really bad since if you would probably watch his streams(not that you probably understand french) you would know he adresses every situation as much as he can but at some point tf do you want him to do
@@a.h7776 it's just annoying that KC fans are normalizing this behavior. I'm a lurker and seen KC performance and I really cheer for their success just like how BRO is getting cooked. BRO still has a lot of respect and support. I've never seen BRO fans of any sort death threat any since I lurk and do my thing.
the point is still there. KC as an org is still young and I want them to thrive but not trampling those people around them.
show respect and earn it. I am unhinged and racist and possibly worst. but I don't show it or boasts abt it.
just understanding should be enough. Caedrel probably criticizing KC org because he wants them to do better.
@@bahabahabahabahb1763 look our big guy kameto made a post!
did his worthless community stop the death threats? no? well consider it as "he didn't do anything" then.
his literal admins perpetrate all of this, for as long as they don't get booted off, he's essentially enabling this disgusting behavior
@@a.h7776 are you mentally slow? its their second year in the lec not their first and you only need top 8 to get into playoffs. THERE'S ONLY 10 TEAMS YOU BOT.
Doms PR tour is going nutty mode right now 😂
I mean I dont watch proplay and I dont know what is happening in the pro scene but aren't this Kc guys are acting like litteral children ?
its because they are
They are not acting like children they are acting like hooligans who are threatening violence.
Kids/teenagers roleplaying as football ultras
It's okay Caedrel that you're afraid to Elden ring
telecom bro🤝
one of the main things that these ultra fans gotta realize with dom specifically, is his toxic flame is not personal. its based on their current performances, and he's perfectly willing to give bad teams their graces if they do well or make positive plays. he doesnt even hate the players or the teams specifically, he just loves to trigger the fanbois who will die on a fucking hill over admitting someone on their team they worship like deities is playing poorly. if the team is playing bad, just admit, theyre playing bad. you dont need to defend everything they do, or cope with every excuse imaginable.
i dont hate t1's players but i love to watch them lose, but its not because i dont like the team. i like when they do well. but i like when they fail more because it helps them fucking IMPROVE. and its these same fucking "ultra" fans who send death threats and trucks to the fucking players. how mentally ill do they have to be?
now i realize that the ultra fans and mentally ill patients who deserve a straight-jacket, are the outspoken minorities, and the vast majority of fans either quietly cheer their teams or are generally positive and give other teams their credit instead of making every excuse under the sun for why their team lost, but as these teams are so popular, that small minority is still a significant amount of people.
just felt the need to also vent a bit because one of his points really hit home in his rant.
people legit told him theyd come and find him, but thankfully, this was AFTER his own career was over. but he said something along the lines of...back then, if someone wanted to take a gun to the studio and shoot him, it woulda been super fucking easy, because they didnt have security checks. thats terrifying. and as league becomes more popular, even tho regular season viewership is probably down a lil bit, and venues get bigger, the amount of wild, passionate fans gets larger and it wont be that hard to whip into a frenzy. and thats, when people get hurt. these ultra fans need to be taken more seriously with their stupid threats, before something real actually happens and either an opposing teams player gets hurt, or someone who isnt a fan of THEIR team, gets hurt.
and they may not costream anymore for professional reasons (not to mention caedral's brand is way less toxic than dom's and he generally stays on most peoples good side) but dom and caedral are probably still pretty good frens, and the fact caedral admits how smart dom is about the game says a lot when caedral was the pro analyst for years, and one of the most beloved/knowledgeable. love him or hate him, he's right when he says dom is a real one. maybe a bit too toxic at times, but its almost never personal. unless its a scandal. then its obviously gonna be a bit more personal to the person in question. xD
That’s a particular thing of KC above any other fanbase is the fact that they use scapegoats to evade the fact that what they’re doing is wrong. I seriously wish KC fanbase is built on a big percentage by 10 year old kids that don’t know how to behave properly
Why does the ribcage video guy sound like that one eSport video guy XD
why the fk did he buy a intel cpu lmao
Clozer is crazy. Another mid was born in lck.
I feel bad for the team but honestly kc needs to be out of lec
More like doms lawyer
0 views after 46 sec mans washed
Gramps*
too bad kc fans cant hear anything outside of their echo chamber, and unfortunately when the do they get hit with the hardest cognitive dissonance
English or Spanish?? Who ever move is become KC fans...... not moving forever
Kc fans cooked
Only fake fans don't respect IWD for all he's done for Pedro, Caedrel is talented to get consistent view but the initial exposure from dom really helped. Dom is great in his own way, crack and all.
i think a lot of people fail to realize just how many of their favorite CCs benefited from interactions with dom. there's a LOT. maybe they dont talk anymore or do content together, but he helped a lot of people out. and nobody should ever doubt how much he fucking loves the game, and his passion for analysis now.
that dom guy gives me the creeps tbh.. the fact every time hes mentioned in this comments has the word hate in it is telling lol
? xd
What's bro yapping
Dom is one of the realest dudes in the LOL community, bro has been around for YEARS and no one has dirt on him and he's still relevant. What are you yapping about?
he's our resident crackhead.
No views in 1 minute lil bro fell off.
You have never done anything productive for society ever
@@Eidxjxndndbro 😂💀
lil bro is scared
Bro is so traumatized over people being toxic. That’s apart of the game of being a public figure.
Oh yeah ofc getting death threats on a daily basis is "part of the game of being a public figure".
What is wrong with people nowadays ?
Maybe stop condoning toxic fans of a garbage team? Caedrel is right for calling out these mentally ill Fr*nch fans and they don't deserve to be shown in any light other than clinically insane.
KC fans trying not to normalize toxic behavior challenge (impossible)
its defamation and misinformation. someones career and reputation will get ruined.
Ye I don’t think what KC fans do is your average internet toxicity
i'm tired man the reddit is either doomposting about t1 when they lose or glazing the fuck out of them when they win. it's so dull
It's the most popular team so, it can't be helped 😅
@@N0n_kcdxds caedrel's subreddit does not need to only post about 1 team out of the 45 in the major regions or any other non-pro related stuff he does
I mean thats what happens when 1 org is more relevant than entire "major regions"...
Most caedrel watchers are massive T1 überfans, can't be helped